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March 24, 2011 Part 2

March 24, 2011
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HB1955 · 6 mentions in chapter, transcript
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HB1980 · 6 mentions in chapter, transcript
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HB1947 · 5 mentions in chapter, transcript
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HB1952 · 5 mentions in transcript, chapter
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HB2179 · 5 mentions in transcript, chapter
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HB1783 · 4 mentions in chapter, transcript
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HB2202 · 4 mentions in transcript, chapter
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HB1784 · 2 mentions in chapter, transcript
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HB1450 · 1 mention in chapter
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HB2128 · 1 mention in chapter
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 0:00
House, please come to order. Please take your seats. Mr. Clerk, please read House Bill 1955.
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Speaker 3 0:13
House Bill 1955 by Representative McCrary, an act to amend enabling legislation for Amendment 82. Representative McCrary, you can speak to your
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Representative Walls McCrary Unverified 0:28
bill. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ladies and gentlemen, the bill before you today is House Bill 1955, which the subtitle says is an act to amend the enabling legislation for Amendment 82. If you remember, Amendment 82 was on the ballot two years ago, and what this bill deals with is implementation language concerning economic development under the Amendment 82. It does two things. It takes out the language that requires an investment by an industry of more than 500 million and that creates more than 500 jobs. In other words, what we call the super projects. It takes that language out and what it does, it lets the Arkansas Economic Development Commission and the Arkansas Development Finance Authority have more flexibility in entering agreements with prospects. This bill was brought to me by the Arkansas Department of Finance Authority. There is no opposition, and the State Chamber of Commerce is for this bill, and I would entertain any questions. You've heard an explanation
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Representative Bruce Westerman Chair Unverified 1:44
of the bill. Are there any questions? Is there anybody
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 1:50
that wants to speak against the bill? Somebody wants to speak for the bill? If not, the question before the House is House Bill 1955.
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Speaker 10 2:01
Mr. Clerk, prepare the machine. Has everyone voted? Has
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 2:16
everyone voted? Cast up the ballots, Mr. Clerk. By a vote of 79 yea, no, 0 nay, and 0 present, House Bill 1955 is passed. Clerk, please read House Bill 1980.
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Speaker 2 2:34
House Bill 1980 by Representative Westerman to amend the Arkansas Retirement Community Program
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Representative Bruce Westerman Chair Unverified 2:44
Act. Representative Westerman, you're recognized to present your bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members, we have a large economic development opportunity in Arkansas, and it's one that doesn't require a lot of infrastructure development. And actually, the infrastructure develops a lot of times with this industry, and the industry is retirement. There are 79 million baby boomers approaching retirement age, and 11,000 of them are retiring each day. We have a huge potential in Arkansas to draw those retirees to our state. Only 11,000 are moving here to retire each year. With 11,000 per day, they're actually retiring. A retiree brings about $12,000 annually in federal assistance, and the typical household spends more than $30,000 annually. Retirees also bring their financial assets with them when they retire, and they often build or buy new homes. The bill that I have before you today is to amend the Arkansas Retirement Community Program Act that was set up in 2007. Even though we have this program, it's never been put into action, mainly because it can't get funding. But we've got a group in the state that's interested in seeing this program developed, and that's the Arkansas Association of Development Organizations. This is the organization that represents the eight planning and development groups across the state. What this program would do, it shifts the responsibility from the program to the AEDC, from the AEDC to the AADO. And again, the AADO has expressed interest in this program. They're willing to administer it. The program allows retirement communities to apply to the program and to be scored on a set of criteria defined by the program. If selected to be in it, then the retirement communities will pay a fee of 25 cents per person plus a $2,500 annual fee to continue funding the program. The AADO will assist the communities in the program through training, marketing, advertising, public relations, brochures, and support materials, as well as providing ongoing evaluations. and I'll take any questions. You have heard Representative Westerman explain House Bill 1980. Are there
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 5:10
any questions? He has left the well. Is there anybody that would like to speak against the bill? Is there anybody that would like to speak for the bill? If not, the question before the House is House Bill 1980. Mr. Clerk, please prepare the ballot. has everybody voted
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Speaker 10 5:32
has everybody voted cast up the
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 5:39
ballot Mr. Clerk House Bill 1980 by a vote of 82 yay, 0 nay, 0 present has passed next bill will be brought before the house is house bill 1947 representative perry you're recognized to explain excuse me mr clerk please read the bill house bill 1947
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Speaker 3 6:03
by representative perry to amend provisions of the arkansas scholarship lottery act considering lottery proceeds scholarship award amounts and management of certain capital assets of
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Chair Unverified 6:15
the arkansas lottery commission representative perry
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Representative Mark Perry Unverified 6:17
you're recognized to present your bill thank you mr speaker members house bill Bill 1947 is the scholarship lottery amounts. The committee's been working as long as we can, waiting until as long as we can to do that, but the committee has determined that 4,500 and 2,250 will be the amounts that we are recommending for this next year. All scholarships awarded last year will remain at $5,000 and $2,500, but this language will keep $4,500 and $2,250. I'll be glad to answer any questions. Are there any questions
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 6:57
for Representative Perry? Any questions? If not, is there anyone that would like,
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Representative Gary Deffenbaugh Unverified 7:02
excuse me, Representative Deppenbaugh, you're recognized. Question. You're recognized. Will they, Representative Perry, will we be able to give out the same amount of scholarships as they, as were given last year approximately?
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Representative Mark Perry Unverified 7:18
I mean, is that? You know, that's always a good question. The amount that we're looking at is roughly $100 million. So, you know, we should be able to fund all of the traditional scholarships. The non-traditional will be the ones that, you know, on the tail end of it. but odds are we should be and that's one reason we're reducing them out to to be able to fund more scholarships on that side ask another question you're recognized i know last year uh
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Representative Gary Deffenbaugh Unverified 7:49
you know working in public schools there was um uh some confusion as to uh youngsters sending in their transcripts and also applying online they were coming into they were not coming at the same time and there was a lot of confusion some youngsters got lost in the process a little bit or that's at least that's what I hear so my question is is it more organized this year yes sir in fact I
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Speaker 5 8:16
had a couple of constituents address that concern as well those those issues haven't
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Representative Mark Perry Unverified 8:22
been addressed this second year into the process it should be a lot better in fact you know and And that's where if you would help them work through those issues,
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Representative Charlie Collins Unverified 8:30
it would gladly be resolved. Thank you. Representative Harris, for what purpose? Question. You're recognized. Since
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Representative Justin T. Harris Unverified 8:38
we're in the business of reducing the amounts, are we going to reduce the amount that is paid to our lottery commissioner? This isn't a joke. This is a serious
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Representative Mark Perry Unverified 8:50
question. I understand, Representative Harris. That would be something to be taken up with the lottery commission.
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Speaker 36 8:55
Okay, well, I hope we reduce his salaries like we are the
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Representative Mark Perry Unverified 9:00
scholarship, so thank you. Thank you. He, you know, I understand the commissioner, we asked him to bring on a very tough project, and that was done and very successful.
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 9:12
I'd appreciate your good vote. You heard Representative Perry give an explanation of House Bill 1947. Is there anyone that wants to speak for or against? If not, Mr. Clerk. Prepare the ballot. The question before the House is House Bill 1947. Prepare the ballot. Has everybody voted? You're voting on the bill and the emergency clause. Cast up the ballot, Mr. Clerk. By a vote of 75 yea, 7 nay, 1 present, House Bill 1947, and the emergency clause is adopted. Mr. Clerk, would
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Speaker 2 10:04
you read House Bill 1952? House Bill 1952 by Representative Roebuck to amend the Arkansas Code
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Speaker 3 10:11
considering the enforcement of ethics violations by Arkansas educators. Representative Roebuck, please explain your bill. Thank you,
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Representative Johnnie J. Roebuck Unverified 10:18
Mr. Speaker, ladies and gentlemen of the House. In my freshman year, 2007, I stood here and presented legislation to you that created the Arkansas Professional Licensure Standards Board. I'm pleased to tell you now, four years later, that the board has operated, and we are very, very pleased with the results, and that board actually polices the teaching profession. It is made up of peers that actually police, and we are now like other professions in that we have that board. Today I bring you House Bill 1952, which are some clarifications. As you know, when you birth a baby and it starts to grow up, we have to do a few things to make it behave. So that's exactly what we're doing today. We're kind of in the teenage years. So it does take existing code, and it does talk about, on page 2, we've defined that an ethical violation does not include a reasonable mistake that has been made in good faith. or an act or omission undertaken in accordance with the reasonable instructions of a supervisor. So that will protect our profession, and so you see that. We've also made some other corrections, and we've talked about some timelines, and some of you had concerns. We took all of those, worked on them in the interim, and we bring you today the results of those changes, and it makes our board even a better board. The Professional Licensure Standards Board helped me testify for this bill in rules, and it is also supported and endorsed by the Department of Education, the Arkansas Education Association, and the Arkansas Association of Educational Administrators. They've all been involved in making these corrections. I'll be glad to take questions, Mr.
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 12:04
Speaker. You've heard Representative Roebuck explain her bill. Are there any questions? Are there any questions? Is there anyone that wants to speak against the bill? Is there anyone that wants to speak for the bill? If not, the question before the House is House Bill 1952. Mr. Clerk, prepare the machine. Has everybody voted? Has everybody voted? Mr. Clerk, cast up the ballot. By a vote of 89 yea, 0 nay, 0 present, House Bill 1952 has been adopted.
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Speaker 2 12:49
House Bill 2179, Mr. Clerk, please read.
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Speaker 3 12:53
House Bill 2179 by Representative Roebuck requires an Arkansas Lottery Commission comprehensive annual financial report and amend the Commission's budget review process. Representative
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Chair Unverified 13:02
Roebuck, you're recognized to present your bill. Thank you,
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Representative Johnnie J. Roebuck Unverified 13:07
Mr. Speaker, ladies and gentlemen of the House. Some of you were in the Lottery Oversight Committee meeting the day that Mr. Pasolet presented his annual report last year. And those of you that were there heard me ask him a lot of questions about that annual report because of its brevity. It was a very short report to the point. But in my hand that day, I had the South Carolina annual report, And I showed that, of course, to Mr. Pasolet because that report had actually been exactly like the one that he had prepared when he was the lottery director in South Carolina. To tell you how comprehensive that report is, I wanted to tell you that South Carolina won a national award, a certificate of achievement for excellence in financial reporting from the Government Finance Officers Association. I can assure you that if you looked at that report and you looked at the report that he submitted to us, he would not have won an award. So we began to work with him on what our report should include, and you see that in the bill. It really isn't anything additional to what he's been providing. It's that we get it piecemealed out. So we've worked and listed exactly what that report should look like, and I bring this on behalf of Senator Key and the others that have been involved in this process. I'll be glad to take questions, Mr.
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Representative Bruce Westerman Chair Unverified 14:28
Speaker. You've heard Representative Roebuck explain the bill. Representative Penartz, for what purpose? Question. You're recognized. Ms.
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Representative Tracy Pennartz Unverified 14:37
Roebuck, do you understand, and when I was reading this bill, I thought, well, why wouldn't we as legislators want to know all this stuff? I consider, and I don't know if you do, so let me ask you, do you consider this report just the minimum level of information that we as legislators who make public policy should know?
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Speaker 51 14:57
Yes, ma'am, I do. Thank you. Representative Linderman, for
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Representative Homer Lenderman Unverified 15:05
what purpose? Question. You're recognized. Representative, has anything been done in these reports to address what were exorbitantly high salaries and possibly unethical activities in travel or at least undocumented travel expenses and things like that? Mr.
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Representative Johnnie J. Roebuck Unverified 15:21
Linderman, thank you for the question. The audit report is certainly a separate report. This is their comprehensive annual financial report. The audit report would be separate, but certainly all of that will be included
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Representative Gary Deffenbaugh Unverified 15:39
in the annual report. Thank you. is there anybody that would like to speak against the
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 15:44
bill is there anyone that would like to speak for the bill if not the question before the house is house bill 2179 Mr. Clerk prepare the machine has everybody voted Mr. Clerk, cast up the ballot. By vote of 88 yea, 0 nay, 0 present, House Bill 2179 is adopted. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 2202. House Bill 2202 by Representative Sanders and all,
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Speaker 3 16:21
an act to enhance the public integrity of certain regulatory agencies. Representative Sanders, you're recognized to
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 16:28
present your bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As Representative Roebuck, well, I guess she gave a key indication
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Representative David J. Sanders Unverified 16:34
of one of our jobs, and that is oversight. So I just wanted to know what Mr. Pasillet said when she brought it to his attention that she had his award-winning annual report. This bill does the same thing. It takes seriously our job in oversight. Earlier in this session, we all came together for what was the first time in the history of the Arkansas legislature, and that is to pass ethics legislation that dealt with ourselves. This piece of legislation deals specifically with individuals who fall into a regulatory capacity. And it simply says this. If you are a regulator in the state of Arkansas, and you can see that if you look at the piece of legislation, you can see that we cover the member of the Public Service Commission, the director of the Public Service Commission, insurance commissioner, deputy, state banking commissioner, and on down to securities. We say this. You cannot be, if this becomes law, you cannot be the regulator on one day and be the regulated on the next. What it does is it puts a one-year cooling-off period that simply says you will not be allowed to work for a company or an entity you regulated in your capacity as a regulator. I think this is a good piece of legislation. I'm happy to have the support of some of these agencies that are listed on here. And I would certainly entertain any questions but
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 17:54
would appreciate a good vote. Any questions? If not, is there anyone to speak against the bill? Is there anyone to speak for the bill? If not, the question before the House is House Bill 2202. Mr. Clerk, prepare the machine. Has everybody voted? Has everybody voted? Cast up the ballot, Mr. Clerk. By 86 yea, 0 nay, 0 present, House Bill 2202 is adopted. Mr. Clerk, please read House
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Speaker 2 18:33
Bill 1783. House Bill 1783 by Representative King to amend Arkansas law
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Speaker 3 18:38
concerning certain disclosures by a member of a county board of election commissioners.
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 18:45
Mr. King, Representative King, you're recognized. Explain the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Representative Bryan B. King Unverified 18:52
This bill just makes sure that election commissioners who do not have to file a statement of financial interest, much like we do, and if you're on a board or commission, a triadary board, whatever, you have to file a statement of financial interest. This bill would just make election commissioners fill out the same sheet that we have to that either check sales to governmental bodies. If you don't sell the governmental bodies, you just check no and move on. If you do, then you have to list it. It's just open
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 19:22
transparency. That's a good bill. Are there any questions regarding Representative Patterson for what purpose you're recognized? Does this
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Representative Mike Patterson Unverified 19:28
have anything to do with a personal fight between yourself and somebody, Commissioner? No, that's not correct, Representative Patterson. You know,
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Representative Larry Cowling Unverified 19:35
I honor Brother Basins, and I'm
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Representative Bryan B. King Unverified 19:38
going to tell you the truth and say we all have problems in our district. You've had issues that we bring up that bring a forefront when you're a legislator, you address. Is it a personal issue? I mean, I can tell you tomorrow I'm going to bring up the concealed weapons in church because of issues that have went back home in my church that thinks it's needed, and there's nothing personal there. So there's nothing personal. This is just a good transparency bill that makes election commissioners fill out that sheet. And I have been a former election
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Representative Mike Patterson Unverified 20:07
commissioner, too. This is disclosure, so I really don't have as big a problem with this as I do something else, but I appreciate that.
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 20:15
Okay. Thank you. Any other questions, Representative King? Representative King has left the well. Is there anyone that would like to speak against this? Is there anyone that would like to speak for it? If not, the question before the House is House Bill 1783.
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Speaker 9 20:38
Mr. Clerk, prepare the machine. Has everyone voted? Has everyone voted? Cast
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 20:45
up the ballot, Mr. Clerk. By a vote of 67 yea, 9 nay, 0 present, House Bill 1783 is adopted. Representative Garner, you're recognized for the clincher. All in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed? The ayes have it. The clincher is adopted. Mr. Clerk, would you please read House Bill 1784? House Bill 1784 by Representative King,
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Speaker 3 21:17
an act to prohibit a county election commissioner from having business dealings or entering into contracts with the board on which he or she
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 21:25
serves. Representative King, you're recognized. Present your bill.
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Representative Bryan B. King Unverified 21:30
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is just another election commissioner reform bill that sometimes we have a situation coming up in counties and we have to address it. What's good for Carroll County is good for everybody else. It just basically says that election commissioners cannot award their self-contracts. Pretty simple bill. Appreciate
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Representative Bruce Westerman Chair Unverified 21:46
a good vote. Any questions? Well, Representative King
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 21:49
has left the well. Is there anyone that would like to speak against it? Representative Patterson, you're recognized to speak against the bill.
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Representative Mike Patterson Unverified 22:00
You're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'd just like to say, ladies and gentlemen, that this particular bill right here, 1784, prohibit a county election commission from having business dealings or enter into contracts with the board on which he or she serves. And Mr. King, Representative King, did say that this doesn't have anything to do with personal facts. But now this person that he's running this bill on has been doing business with this county for years and years and years. And I really don't see anything wrong with that right there. There's a lot of legislators in this room that has contracts with local government. They have contracts with state government, and there's a lot of people do business like this. So I personally believe that you need to keep your personal facts at home and do that, and I don't think you need to bring them to the well. But that's my feeling, so I'd appreciate you voting against this. Thank you. Representative Lee, you're recognized.
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 23:07
Representative Patterson has left the well. Is there anyone that would like to speak against or for the bill? against the bill for the bill Representative Collin-Smith you're recognized to speak for the
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Representative Linda Collins-Smith Unverified 23:27
bill you're recognized thank you Mr. Speaker this is the election commissioner they do need to show us who they do business with we do that for the people of the state of Arkansas, that's the election commissioner. It's pretty bad, but I didn't know that they didn't do a financial report or reporting on who they do business with, even in my own county. In city, county, local, when we voted on this, I heard that from several people. I encourage you to vote on this information that the people need to know because they'll be questioning those election commissioners sometimes when they do business with the county government. And I believe that, so please give this a good vote. Thank you. You've heard Representative Colin Smith
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 24:26
speak for the bill. excuse me is there anyone who would like to speak against the bill if not would you like to close representative king clear something
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Representative Bryan B. King Unverified 24:42
up as far as doing business it doesn't keep them from doing business out with governmental entities what it does is it doesn't allow election commissioner to be able to print ballots with and give aboard the contract to his own company be like mr barnett having an asphalt paving company and while he's a highway commissioner awarding himself contracts i don't know what's so hard
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Speaker 75 25:05
about this so anyway appreciate a good vote it
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Representative Bruce Westerman Chair Unverified 25:11
is a good bill the he is represented king is as close for the bill the question in front of the house
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 25:19
is house bill 1784 mr clerk prepare the
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Speaker 9 25:32
machine As everyone voted, as everyone voted, Mr. Clerk,
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 25:36
cast up the ballot. By a vote of 67 yea, 8 nay, 1 present. House Bill 1784 is adopted. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 2128.
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Speaker 3 25:49
House Bill 2128 by Representative Woods to amend
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Speaker 2 25:53
the law concerning the purchase of water service properties and facilities. Representative Woods, you're recognized.
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Representative Jon Woods Chair Unverified 26:00
Explain your bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. This is just another addition to a bill that I ran last session. It deals with basically when you have two cities that are growing and they overlap. Say a city is growing and they annex in new land and it has a water line from a neighboring city, It just, all this new section does to the existing code that's already on books, this additional code just says that the two municipalities need to be able to sit down and at least talk about a buyout of the water lines. It doesn't say they have to agree. It doesn't say that there shall be a buyout, but last session we, or I ran a bill that created a board. and the Natural Resources Commission presides over a board and they have all these barriers and all these qualifications any time a city wants to annex in a new piece of land and there's rural water lines. Just you have municipalities that need to be able to sit down and communicate with each other that aren't communicating and it's not fair to the citizens about who offers the cheaper water rates. And so this is happening in different parts of the state. I've had a legislator, Representative Leslie Post, approached me and she knew that I had ran a bill that pertained to the subject in 09 and this would help her out quite a bit in her area. That's why she's a co-sponsor. So I would appreciate a good vote on this. Thank you. You've heard Representative Woods explain his bill. He's left the well. Is there anyone that
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 27:35
would like to speak against this bill? Is there anyone that would like to speak for it? If not, the question before the House is House Bill 2128.
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Speaker 9 27:50
Mr. Clerk, prepare the machine. has everyone voted has everyone voted mr. clerk cast
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified 27:55
up the ballot by a vote of 83 a two nays zero president house bill 2128 is passed mr. clerk please read house bill 1450 house bill 1450 barbs and
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Speaker 2 28:05
barnett null the arkansas carbon dioxide storage act representative barnett you and your asphalt company are recognized to speak sound like a pretty good idea to me i want
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 28:18
to go back and try that sound like a good way to maybe make some money but this is a non-control bill this is a bill that i've actually worked on since the beginning of the session and filed it early and this bill has been very, very vetted, probably the most vetted bill of probably any bill in the entire session. That's, Representative Pernard, it's a true statement, because in most of you all in this room, I've talked to you personally about it. Even I, Representative Pernard, had a mock-up of the bill and asked about 100 questions, and we gave her a response in writing to every one of her concerns. So I just want to be sure and make that notation. There actually has not been any emails on this lately that are negative, so they've all kind of went away. So it seems like that we've made most people happy on this. This is a bill that has been run on behalf of the energy companies in this state because we're going to have to deal with CO2 not just now but in the future. So this House Bill 1450 authorizes the Arkansas Department of Environmental Quality, ADEQ, to apply to EPA for approval and to administer a state program for carbon dioxide injection wells under recent EPA Safe Drinking Water Act regulations. It directs ADEQ and the Oil and Gas Commission and the Arkansas Pollution Control and Ecology Commission to enter into interagency agreements necessary for that purpose. No carbon dioxide storage facility permits are to be issued before June 30, 2013. The legislature will authorize the proper state agencies to provide for a coordinator statewide program for transport and underground storage of carbon dioxide no later than June 30, 2013, after interim study. ADEQ and the Oil and Gas Commission and the Pollution Control and Ecology Commission will provide a report to the House Insurance and Commerce Committee by June 30, 2012, on their progress and proposals for an approval of permitting carbon dioxide injection wells under the EPA's Safe Drinking Water Regulations and for a coordinated statewide program for carbon dioxide transportation and underground storage. I have one member of this legislature, Representative Westman, who I know you all have a great deal of respect for because he's kind of our resident engineer. And he's worked with me on this. And if it gets too technical on questions, I'm going to have him come up and speak for the bill and answer some of the questions. But
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Chair Unverified 31:16
I will try to entertain any questions if anybody has any. Representative Eubanks, what
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Representative Jon S. Eubanks Unverified 31:21
purpose? Question. Recognized. I have an area in my district that had an issue with this last year, and I think they have some concerns. Does this bill basically create another set of rights that landowners have in addition to mineral rights?
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 31:34
All of those questions will be studied and answered by the Inter-Study Committee. Thank
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Chair Unverified 31:42
you. Representative Deffenbaugh, what purpose? Recognize. Representative Burnett,
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Representative Gary Deffenbaugh Unverified 31:47
I really know very little about this, and there has been some recent emails, and actually they were accusing me of voting for a cap-and-trade bill, and so what's your explanation, and what can I say?
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 32:04
Well, cap-and-trade, as you all well know, is a totally different matter and a totally different subject, and that has to do with, you know, carbon credits and so on and so forth. credits or the purchase of those or nothing i don't even see al gore's name in this this bill anywhere so it's really it's totally separate from that and you know this this raises a lot of eyebrows because it deals with you know a lot of things uh property rights liability um insurance and just the list goes on and on and on and you can take people all the way to the complete left to the environmental spectrum, and some of them have a problem with it. They don't have a problem with this bill, or at least they seem to be okay with it at this point. And you can take people all the way to the far, far right that thinks that if you even talk about greenhouse gases and admit that there is CO2, that it's a global warming bill. And I've actually, I'm not a global warming person myself, but this bill will allow industry, especially if you're an energy electric company and you're burning coal or you're trying to, you're a paper mill or if you've got a refinery, this is a good bill and helps all these people. Representative Ward, law of what purpose?
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Chair Unverified 33:23
Recognized. Representative Barnett, can you tell us that if we don't
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Representative Jeff Wardlaw Unverified 33:28
enact this, will it in fact give up our state rights upon this or not? Did you vote for this bill in committee
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Speaker 92 33:36
or I don't remember, did you vote yes on this
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 33:40
in committee? I don't remember. Okay. This bill actually provides for a legal framework. It's a state's right issue. It's a legal framework that lets the state of Arkansas decide how we're going to deal with CO2 and the sequestration and the transfer and the storage of CO2. There's going to be federal mandates at some point, so this provides a legal framework for Arkansas. Representative Mayberry, my purpose is to recognize.
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Representative Andy Mayberry Unverified 34:14
In one of our previous discussions, I think you mentioned to me that the energy companies were in favor of this, that this helps them in some way. Can you describe for me a little bit
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Speaker 95 34:26
how this helps our existing energy companies? Well, right now, as you all well
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 34:31
know, 73 percent of all the liquid hydrocarbons in this country is coming offshore. They're not refined here because nobody wants to build a refinery in this state anymore or this country because there's too many regulations. And refineries, which is an energy company, obviously released CO2.
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Chair Unverified 34:46
So this will help address some of their concerns, and the energy companies are very much in favor of this bill. How's that? No trace in line. Representative Collins, what
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Representative Charlie Collins Unverified 35:00
purpose? You recognize? Representative Barnett, the first thing I'd like to do is just thank you for your courage it seems like you take one tough issue after another and can you just confirm for me that the email blast I got really centered on the eminent domain questions have those been
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 35:16
taken out of the bill sir they have they've all been sent to interim study and in the email blast that you got actually I met with those people after the fact and that they seem to be very very settled down and they seem to be We have somewhat of a comfortable feeling at this
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Chair Unverified 35:39
point. So I think their fears are relieved.
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Representative Stephen Meeks Unverified 35:43
Representative Meeks, right? Representative Meeks, I appreciate you staying down here and taking all these abrogic questions. The question that I have is, on the carbon dioxide, the storing it underground, is it being stored down there for disposal purposes, or are we looking at storing it down there for future use, a later benefit, and do you have some examples of what that future benefit might be? Well, hopefully it's for future benefit now.
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 36:07
There may be so much of it they may have to store a lot of it for a long time, but, you know, the oil industry is looking at this, that there's a lot of oil in South Arkansas around the Smackover area where it used to be, you know, pumped up years ago. It's so thick down there they say 85% of all the oil that is still on the ground, And CO2 has been proven to break up the viscosity of the oil and thin it down and let it come up. And if you know there's so many uses to CO2, I've talked to the ConocoPhillips refinery plant in Bartlesville, Oklahoma, and every bit of the CO2 that they capture off that refinery in Bartlesville is captured and sold to the beverage companies. It's used every time you drink soda pop. So CO2 is something that has got a lot of commercial applications and it's probably going to be used for biomass in the future to help grow algae in ponds and produce biomass. So there's a lot of, this is an economic development bill too,
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Chair Unverified 37:12
if I didn't mention that. Representative Tyler,
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Representative Linda S. Tyler Unverified 37:15
are you recognized for a question? Question, thank you, sir. Mr. Fernand, I heard you say we're providing the legal framework for carbon capture so that we're ready so that the feds won't come in. It's a states' rights issue that we're able to do this on our own, the feds don't dictate how we do this. Wouldn't you say that's the same thing that we're trying to do on the healthcare exchange? You
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Speaker 106 37:40
know, that's a good question, and I'm sure that's very debatable. Well, if you'll come to Insurance Commerce Friday morning, I'm sure we can
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Chair Unverified 37:51
help answer that question. Thank you, sir. Members, heard an explanation of the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill? For the bill? You close the bill. Which close the bill? Question for the House. Passage of House Bill 1450. Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. Everyone voted? Everyone voted. Cast up the ballot by a vote of 75, 76, yay, 8, nay, 0, present. You have passed the bill. We're represented by that. Moves for the clincher. Great activity for defeating the end of the day. Everybody in favor of the clincher, say aye. Aye. Those no eyes have it. I'm going to recognize Representative Cowling in just one moment for a motion. I do want to take the privilege from the Chair and recognize that it seems like there's a need for a brief respite here before a little gathering we've got tonight. There's been a lot of discussion, not a lot of discussion, but there's been discussion the last couple of days about appropriate address. Just remember that when you walk in the door that you get to immortalize yourself because you and whomever you bring are just yourself. You're going to get your picture taken. So just dress for a pretty picture tonight, and I look forward to seeing each of you. Representative Cowling, you're recognized for motion. After
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Representative Larry Cowling Unverified 39:36
the announcements, reading of the bills, transferring bills, placing the calendars on the desk, amending members' own bills with their own amendments, members withdrawing their own bills, finalizing the resolution, reading the communication and remaining committee reports. I move we adjourn until 10 o'clock
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Chair Unverified 39:54
in the morning. Proper motion, non-batable. All in favor say aye. Opposed, no. Ayes have a motion
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 39:59
carried. Representative Barnett. Very important announcement.
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Representative Charlie Collins Unverified 40:02
House Transportation is going to meet right now in 151. We're all going to go to Big Mac. We're going to go down to 151. We have
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 40:10
a bill that we've got to handle immediately. House transportation immediately, room 151. Any other announcements? Thank you very much.
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Chair Unverified 40:20
Representative Wagner, what purpose? Announcement. Recognize. City, county, and local affairs
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Representative Charolette Wagner Unverified 40:25
will not meet Friday. City, county, and local affairs will not meet Friday. Representative Cowling, what purpose? Just a reminder
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Speaker 112 40:37
of what the parliamentarian said about leaving the computers on your
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Speaker 107 40:42
desk tonight. Thank you, Representative Tyler. Purpose? Any other announcements? Any other meetings in the morning, committee meetings in the morning? Representative Slankard, what purpose? Recognize. Let's
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Speaker 53 40:59
see, what is it? State announcement. State agencies, 9 o'clock in the morning. okay any other any
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Speaker 108 41:06
other committees meeting in the morning okay thank you very much
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Agenda

Call to Order

0:02

HB1955

0:15

HB1980

2:36

HB1947

5:58

HB1952

10:07

HB2179

12:52

HB2202

16:20

HB1783

18:37

HB1784

21:16

HB2128

25:49

HB1450

28:06

Announcements

40:06

Adjournment

41:14

Documents

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Speakers

Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair Unverified
33 segments
Speaker 3
9 segments
Representative Walls McCrary Unverified
3 segments
Representative Bruce Westerman Chair Unverified
9 segments
Speaker 10
2 segments
Speaker 2
6 segments
Chair Unverified
14 segments
Representative Mark Perry Unverified
6 segments
Representative Gary Deffenbaugh Unverified
5 segments
Speaker 5
1 segment
Representative Charlie Collins Unverified
4 segments
Representative Justin T. Harris Unverified
1 segment
Speaker 36
1 segment
Representative Johnnie J. Roebuck Unverified
13 segments
Representative Tracy Pennartz Unverified
1 segment
Speaker 51
1 segment
Representative Homer Lenderman Unverified
1 segment
Representative David J. Sanders Unverified
4 segments
Representative Bryan B. King Unverified
7 segments
Representative Mike Patterson Unverified
4 segments
Representative Larry Cowling Unverified
4 segments
Speaker 9
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Representative Linda Collins-Smith Unverified
3 segments
Speaker 75
1 segment
Representative Jon Woods Chair Unverified
5 segments
Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified
19 segments
Representative Jon S. Eubanks Unverified
1 segment
Representative Jeff Wardlaw Unverified
1 segment
Speaker 92
1 segment
Representative Andy Mayberry Unverified
1 segment
Speaker 95
1 segment
Representative Stephen Meeks Unverified
2 segments
Representative Linda S. Tyler Unverified
2 segments
Speaker 106
1 segment
Representative Charolette Wagner Unverified
1 segment
Speaker 112
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Speaker 107
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Speaker 53
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Speaker 108
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