March 22, 2011
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Bills discussed (35)
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HB1869
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HB1611
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HB2142
· 3 mentions in transcript, chapter
Matched: “bill. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 2142.”
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HB2207
· 3 mentions in chapter, transcript
Matched: “HB2207”
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HB1050
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…Speaker, we are Committee on Energy to whom is referred to House Bill 1050, House Bill 1914, Senate Bill 875 and Senate Bill 876, but…”
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HB1206
· 1 mention in chapter
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HB1490
· 1 mention in chapter
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HB1780
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Matched: “HB1780”
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HB1790
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HB1821
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Matched: “HB1821”
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HB1889
· 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “HB1889”
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HB1914
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…Committee on Energy to whom is referred to House Bill 1050, House Bill 1914, Senate Bill 875 and Senate Bill 876, but I believe to repo…”
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HB1925
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…are Committee on Public Transportation to whom was referred House Bill 1925, House Bill 1953, House Bill 2007, and Senate Bill 336. Beg…”
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HB1953
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…Public Transportation to whom was referred House Bill 1925, House Bill 1953, House Bill 2007, and Senate Bill 336. Begley report we've…”
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HB1971
· 1 mention in chapter
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HB2002
· 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “HB2002”
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HB2007
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…tion to whom was referred House Bill 1925, House Bill 1953, House Bill 2007, and Senate Bill 336. Begley report we've had the same. Und…”
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HB2153
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…are committee on public transportation to whom is referred House Bill 2153 by Representative Altus. Begley report we've had the same.…”
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HB2185
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…r. Speaker, we are Committee on Energy to whom was referred House Bill 2185 by Representative Gary Smith.”
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HB2188
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…er, we are committee on revenue and tax to whom is referred House Bill 2188 by Representative Colling. We report we have the same under…”
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SB10
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…ker, we are a committee on joint budget to whom is referred Senate Bill 10, Senate Bill 150, Senate Bill 226, Senate Bill 486, Senate…”
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SB150
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…mmittee on joint budget to whom is referred Senate Bill 10, Senate Bill 150, Senate Bill 226, Senate Bill 486, Senate Bill 518, Senate…”
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SB226
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…budget to whom is referred Senate Bill 10, Senate Bill 150, Senate Bill 226, Senate Bill 486, Senate Bill 518, Senate Bill 639, Senate”
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SB316
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…are a committee on revenue and taxation who has referred to Senate Bill 316, Senate Bill 364, Senate Bill 596, and Senate Bill 728.”
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SB336
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…rred House Bill 1925, House Bill 1953, House Bill 2007, and Senate Bill 336. Begley report we've had the same. Under consideration, hea…”
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SB364
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…n revenue and taxation who has referred to Senate Bill 316, Senate Bill 364, Senate Bill 596, and Senate Bill 728.”
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SB486
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…referred Senate Bill 10, Senate Bill 150, Senate Bill 226, Senate Bill 486, Senate Bill 518, Senate Bill 639, Senate”
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SB518
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…Bill 10, Senate Bill 150, Senate Bill 226, Senate Bill 486, Senate Bill 518, Senate Bill 639, Senate”
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SB596
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…ation who has referred to Senate Bill 316, Senate Bill 364, Senate Bill 596, and Senate Bill 728.”
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SB639
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…ill 150, Senate Bill 226, Senate Bill 486, Senate Bill 518, Senate Bill 639, Senate”
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SB678
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “Senate Bill 678 and Senate Bill 696, but I believe to report we've had the…”
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SB696
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “Senate Bill 678 and Senate Bill 696, but I believe to report we've had the same under considera…”
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SB728
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…d to Senate Bill 316, Senate Bill 364, Senate Bill 596, and Senate Bill 728.”
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SB875
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…gy to whom is referred to House Bill 1050, House Bill 1914, Senate Bill 875 and Senate Bill 876, but I believe to report we've had the…”
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SB876
· 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…ed to House Bill 1050, House Bill 1914, Senate Bill 875 and Senate Bill 876, but I believe to report we've had the same under considera…”
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Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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We will stand while we're going to be led in prayer by Representative David Fielding, and then we will remain standing to be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Billy Gaskell. Representative Fielding. Let us pray. O
Representative David Fielding
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God Almighty, our help, we thank you for this opportunity. but most of all oh grace my father we thank you for the opportunity
to be a servant a servant for the people God actually give us that good wisdom and understanding that we need in making the right decision and we pray father that what is done here that will be done in decent and
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order we thank you for these many blessings that give us our many sins these name rest in this name we pray amen Members, please indicate
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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your presence by pressing the yellow present button.
Cast up the ballot. I'm the chair of
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the machine, Mr. Clerk. Everyone, let's see, who we
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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got back there? All right, cast up the ballot by a showing of 98 members present. The chair recognizes a quorum request for leave.
Representative Mayberry. Leave for Representative Collin Smith. Leave granted for Representative Collin Smith. It leaves granted. Representative Eddie Cheetah moves that we dispense with the reading of the previous day's journal
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without objection. So ordered, other reports from select committees. Read the reports,
Mr. Clerk. Mr. Speaker, we are a committee on joint budget to whom is referred Senate Bill 10, Senate Bill 150, Senate Bill 226, Senate Bill 486, Senate Bill 518, Senate Bill 639, Senate
Senate Bill 678 and Senate Bill 696, but I believe to report we've had the same under consideration and heareth return the same with the recommendation that they do pass. Respectfully submitted, Kathy Webb, Chair. Mr. Speaker, we are Committee on Energy to whom is referred to House Bill 1050, House Bill 1914, Senate Bill 875 and Senate Bill 876, but I believe to report we've had the same under consideration and heareth return the same with the recommendation that they do pass. Mr. Speaker, we are Committee on Energy to whom was referred House Bill 2185 by Representative Gary Smith.
I believe we report we have the same under consideration here to return the same with the recommendation that it do pass as amended.
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Respectfully submitted, Tiffany Rogers, Chair. Thank you. Reports from the
standing committees. Ready to report, Mr. Clark. Mr. Speaker, we are Committee on Public Transportation to whom was referred House Bill 1925, House Bill 1953, House Bill 2007, and Senate Bill 336. Begley report we've had the same. Under consideration, hear it to return the same with a recommendation that they do pass.
Mr. Speaker, we are committee on public transportation to whom is referred House Bill 2153 by Representative Altus. Begley report we've had the same. Under consideration, hear it to return the same with a recommendation that they do pass as amended. Respectfully submitted, Walz McCrary. Mr. Speaker, we are committee on revenue and tax to whom is referred House Bill 2188 by Representative Colling. We report we have the same under consideration and here to return the same with the recommendation that do pass as amended. Mr. Speaker, we are a committee on revenue and taxation who has referred to Senate Bill 316, Senate Bill 364, Senate Bill 596, and Senate Bill 728.
We report we have the same under consideration and here to return the same with the recommendation that they
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do pass. Respectfully submitted, Larry Cowling, Chair. Executive Communication Okay,
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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before we go to our red calendar members please join me in welcoming in the gallery today we have students from the Arkansas Training Institute from Hot Springs who are here today as guests of Representative Vines. Would you all stand
and be recognized? Thank you. Thank you for being with us
today. We have with us a guest of Representatives Hopper and Benedict, a group from the Van Matris Senior Center in Mountain Home. Are you here? There you are. Thank you for being here. And as guests of Representatives Love and Webb, we have a group from the Pulaski County Youth Services.
If you all are here to be recognized. Okay, well, we're still looking for them. We do have a special guest here today of Representative Branscombe, his sons Ethan and Evan, and his niece Sarah Paul. So we're happy to have them here with us today. Thank you all.
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All right, members, we'll go to the red calendar. Mr. Clerk,
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read House Bill 1869. House Bill 1869, by Representative Powers,
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to create state district courts. Representative Powers, you are recognized to
explain the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I apologize for my voice sounding more like Dr. Gaskell's than my own today.
But that's probably a good thing. Don't you
agree, Doc? Members, let me discuss this with you. This bill, 1869, has probably been the
most frustrating piece of legislation I've ever had the fortune to undertake during my three terms in the House. I'm going to try to give you a background where you'll understand that Amendment 80 to the Constitution suggested that the state of Arkansas fold into a true three-tier judicial system,
the appellate courts, the circuit courts, and the district courts. Now, the legislation also mandates that by the end of 2012, all of the small city courts will go away. This legislation doesn't do that. That's already been put into place. So your small-town courts are going to fold into a larger system. In 2007, then Representative Harrelson folded in 19 pilot, what at the time we called pilot court programs.
In 2009, I did the same with six more. Currently, we have 25 full-time district judges in this system. Now, our legislature also determined and set up legislation that mandated that a District Court Resource Assessment Board shepherd this project through the completion of the entire state having a full-time district judge in each district.
Now what we have done is fold a few in at each legislative session, and I assure you if we had done just that this time, I wouldn't have said this is the most frustrating piece of legislation I've ever been a part of. But what the Resource Assessment Board felt they were mandated to do is to at least stay with some intent of the legislation because the original legislation wanted all of the district courts to be consolidated by the end of 2012 humanly impossible we
couldn't do it in good faith as a legislator legislator or collectively a legislature or the district court board could not do that so what we did we thought to stay with it with the intent of the legislation we would create some guidelines to go by now that is what has created some of the problems, those guidelines. And what we try to do, we've already amended this once, and we thought we took out most everyone that had a problem, and they didn't want to feel
pigeonholed and go back home and tell their folks that, hey, I didn't do anything for you. Haven't been able to satisfy every single one, but I want to remind you, the intent of this legislation, is to save money. It doesn't cost us a penny. Not a penny is coming from general revenue. In fact, we've actually saved a little bit of money. But also, hopefully it makes our district courts more accessible, more efficient. And frankly, we won't have
someone practicing law in the morning and sitting on the bench that afternoon. And I think that's the primary thrust. These will be elected judges, not appointed judges. That simply is something I think that if we could make happen throughout the judicial system, I think that's a good thing. The perception is sometimes the public doesn't get a square deal. That may not be true, but the perception is what we're having to fight. So in effect, what we have done in 2013, I think
there are 11, 12 courts that will come on full-time. There's another schedule for 2015, another schedule for 2017, up to 2021. The reason in doing so is to make it as flexible for you as legislators that will come back here or those of you who will not come back to give the new ones a little bit of insight into what we can do. Is this perfect? No, it's not. But I am extremely fearful that if we stop this at this point, this entire program will die and the state of Arkansas will not benefit from this good legislation.
Now, I understand that there are some of you who have talked to me, or I think I've talked to everyone who has problems with this. And I am amenable to taking care of it however it needs to be taken care of. My problem is we're running out of time, and I don't know what to tell you other than that. If we could amend it down the Senate in, I'd love to do so. I mean, if we can fast-track it somehow, I'd love to do so. Maybe we can. I don't know that we can.
But this is good legislation that was started with the intent to make our citizens, because I want to tell you this, most of the clients, it's not the word, but most of our citizens' contact with our judicial system is with these courts, not with circuit court, not with my juvenile court, and so on. This is an area where we need to improve, we can't improve. It's not going to cost us a penny. And I think we can work out virtually every situation.
And keep in mind, we're going to be going from 150-some-odd courts to 64. That's going to cost the citizens of this state less money. I don't know any way to explain it other than to take a few questions, let you speak for it or against it, and we'll just go from there. Mr.
Speaker? Representative Pierce, what purpose? Question? Recognize. Representative Pierce, how did you decide
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who you were taking on or off of this bill? because several of us asked you to take us off, and you said you couldn't take us off,
and now the ones that are saying you can't. Well, let
me explain the process to you, Representative Pierce. When you and I talked, we had done that the day before. We were running it in committee the next day. When you and I talked, the bill had already run through judiciary. But you're not willing
to take it off? Yes, I am. I'm more than willing, Representative Pierce. My problem is, am I willing to
give up the legislation and let it fail because it's not going to work its way through the system? That's my concern, not to work with you or to work with anyone in here.
I mean, if we had another week, you know, I'd be jumping up and down saying yes. But my problem, since I wasn't here yesterday and I needed that day, my problem is we're about to run out of time. So I can't tell you in certainty that it can be done, but I can tell you that I'd like for it to be done because I have no qualms with taking you off. If I took, obviously if I took Representative Steele off, I certainly have no qualms taking you
Representative Bobby J. Pierce
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off. Well, that was my question. How, if they came to you and asked you, how did you decide who got taken off and who didn't?
Virtually everyone that came to me prior to running the bill, you know, we ran it through once. It got out one time. Then we amended it. You and I talked after the bill had been amended and run in judiciary for the last time. So I've been happy to do it if you and I had talked about it and said, yes, that's what we want to do. Now, in your particular situation, at the time, the judge in Malvern was all for this. And I think you may have even mentioned to me one time that your judge in Grant County had problems with it.
But, so, the decision was made simply we thought we had pulled everybody in that truly had huge problems with it. But we would like to satisfy it. Mr. Speaker, if there are
no other questions, I'll yield. I've heard an explanation of
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the bill, and when we should speak against the bill, Well, Representative Patterson, you are recognized to come and you're indicating you want to speak against the bill.
Is that right? You're recognized to come and speak against the bill. Thank
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you, Mr. Chairman. Normally, I wouldn't come down here and speak against Representative Powers, but on this certain situation, I've got a problem. The people back in my county, ladies and gentlemen, there's an ad in the newspaper this week and it showed an empty courthouse right there. and they've had the television stations there. I've had more slack over this bill right here than I've had in anything in five years that I've been down here.
Ladies and gentlemen, it might sound good that we're going to 64 full-time people, but now somebody's going to have to pay those people $130,000 salaries, if I'm not mistaken, what they're going to get paid, plus benefits, plus retirement. And my county does not want us to go and get combined with another county and have a judge somewhere else. We want our own judge in our county just like we've got it now. Now, I know they've worked hard on this bill, but I think there's a whole lot of us in here
that some people have been taking off this bill and some people have not been taking off this bill. And I know we're running out of time, but ladies and gentlemen, I need you to vote no on this bill today, and I think there's a better way of drawing this up than what
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they've got right now. Thank you. Representative Patterson, spoken against the bill. Anyone wishing to speak for the bill? Yes, Bill. Representative Rice, you're recognized. Come and speak against the bill.
Representative Terry Rice
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Recognize. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'll start off with, let me say my respect for Representative Powers. He is very knowledgeable. He has done a lot of work, I know. But, members, whether this is about running out of time or not is not a reason to push this on through. Let's go back and take right and wrong. There is a perception, Representative Powers mentioned, sometimes that perception is correct and sometimes it's not. But the people back home see that there are people that got treatment different than other treatment.
And I would just ask you to consider that. This is not a good
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deal. I don't feel, and I'd appreciate your vote against this bill. Thank you. Representative Wright has spoken against the bill. Anyone
who wishes to speak for the bill, against the bill? Representative Ratlitt, you're recognized. Come and speak against the bill. You're
Representative Ratlitt
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recognized, sir. Colleagues, I come down here today to speak against this bill. This is wearing me out at home,
and it's something that's very personal to me. Here a few years ago, they come in and stole some of our schools and consolidated them. Now they're coming in and getting their judges. Next, they'll be coming in and getting their sheriffs. Then they'll be wanting a state trooper to cover half the state. What's next? Thank you.
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Representative Ratliff has spoken against the bill.
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Anyone wishing to speak for the bill? Yep. Representative Penarch, you're recognized to come and speak for the
Representative Tracy Pennartz
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as well as anybody else, but this bill is a serious issue. This bill is an attempt to further implement Amendment 80, which the people, the people
of this state passed. When I was a little old freshman, not that I've ever been little, but when I was a little old freshman and was sitting on the Judiciary Committee, which I loved. I loved the Judiciary Committee. At that time, I was fortunate enough, along with my good colleague, Representative Powers, to be appointed to the District Court Reassessment Board. And for four years, he
He and I, and two members of the Senate, have sat with the Supreme Court Justice, County Judges, District Judges, and other individuals that represent the interested parties in this within the judicial system. And for four long years, we've labored to implement the People's Wish with regard to Amendment 80 and the establishment of these district courts as part of the
third tier of the judicial system. Now has ever been, we have had established criteria that that board came up with with input from the parties and we have endeavored to our very best to go by that criteria in establishing these these district courts. Now, is everybody going to be happy? No, they're not. Is everybody
going to have a district court that may meet one or two days a week in their county instead of every day based off of the number of the cases that that court actually sees? Yes, They're going to get representation. They will get the opportunity to have their cases heard in district court. So in looking at this bill, is it a perfect bill?
No it's not. There's no such thing as a perfect bill. But I ask you to have faith in the ability of that District Court Reassessment Board and in the faith of your Judiciary Committee who passed it out. And in faith that these District Courts, which are being downsized to the 65 that represented
powers told you this is actually not going to cost the state additional monies thank you
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representative north has spoken for the bill anyone
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wish to speak against the bill uh what purpose representative rice question i didn't get to ask thank you yes sir we've recognized our policy the speakers left the podium they're not going to take any questions uh anyone wishing to speak against the bill for the bill representative powers you
recognize close for the bill and thank you mr speaker and i think you've seen the small handful of folks that are against this legislation but let me say that that each one is a little bit different representative rice and i the landscape has changed on his situation several times going forward um his prosecuting attorney came to me last week wanted to go forward and i understand
representative rice has people on his corn court and he's getting pounded back home representative patterson who is a good friend of mine and i understand but i will tell you your people back home when they show a picture of an empty courthouse sir are being disingenuous and downright deceitful the courthouse is not leaving now i don't know if clay county which is a smallish county will ever have be elected have the opportunity to elect a district judge but your courthouse will not be empty these judges are going to be just like our circuit judges
they'll come to your to your neck of the woods and they're going to have court i'll tell you Representative Ratliff, who will be happy in your district, that person who has a case that morning with an attorney, and the attorney just lays him open and then serves as his district judge that afternoon, that person's going to be happy. Now, there are 25 currently, and I can name this Miller County, it's Union County, it's Greene County.
You people need to know, if you vote against this bill and your district judge and your people who have laid the groundwork for this thing since 2001. We've been working on it for four years. Representative Penard, Senator Thompson, Senator Whitaker. And we know four years ago, I told these people in that board, yeah, let's get the low-hanging fruit. At some point, we're going to have some territorial issues that are going to be tough to overcome. But we have to overcome them because this is simply best for the state of Arkansas. I admire Representative Patterson. I admire Representative Rice. I admire Representative Ratliff.
This is not the best decision for Arkansas, nor do I bring legislation that's bad for this state. So I'm going to ask you to vote for this legislation. Let's keep it moving for the betterment of our citizens. And I ask
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for a good vote. Thank you very much. Representative Powers, close for the bill. Question for the House. Passage of House Bill 1869. Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk.
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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Everyone voted? Everyone voted? I cast up the ballot by a vote of 42 yea, 43 nay, and 2 present to fail the bill. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 1611. House Bill
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1611 by Representative Pierce to protect an owner, lessee, or occupant of land from liability to a trespasser. Representative
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Pierce, you are recognized to explain the bill.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This bill started out a great bill, went down to a good
Representative Bobby J. Pierce
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bill, and now it's a bill. So by the time you get the lawyers through with it, that's what you get sometimes. But I'm taking what I can. It's a good bill for the ones on that, and I would appreciate a good vote, and I would take questions. Thank
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you. Members, there are an explanation of the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill, for the bill? Not the question for the House. Pass your House Bill 1611.
Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. Everyone voted? Everyone voted. Cast up the ballot by a vote of 93, yea, 0, nay, 0, present. You have passed the bill. Representative Rice moves to the clincher on House Bill 1869. proper motion uh all in favor i say mr clark fair machine we'll put this in on the machine
question is adoption of the clincher on house bill 1869 prepare the machine mr clark Is
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everyone voting? Everyone voted. Cast up the
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ballot by a vote of 38, yay, 46, nay, one present. The clincher motion has failed.
Mr. Clerk, read into House Bill 2207. House Bill 2207 by Representative Wright, an act regarding
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the funding of public defenders. Representative Wright, you
Representative Marshall Wright
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are recognized to explain the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a simple bill, so I'll be brief. Right now, each county is responsible for paying the office expenses of the public defender in that county. All this bill does is provide direction from which accounts those monies can be paid
and requires the public defender to submit a line-item budget request which are not required to do
now appreciate take any questions appreciate a good vote members heard an explanation of
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the bill anyone wishing to speak against the bill for the bill not the question for the house passage of house bill 2207 Pratt machine. Mr.
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Clerk. Everyone voted. Everyone voted. Cast up the ballot by a vote of 96 yeas,
0 nays, 0 present. You pass the
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bill. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 2142.
House Bill 2142 by Representative Hyde to establish the Arkansas Post-Secondary Research Database for the purpose of providing research and analysis of post-secondary student data
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to the General Assembly. Representative Hyde,
you're recognized to explain the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members, HB 2142 codifies the data that higher ed will be providing to BLR for the use of
the General Assembly in making decisions going forward on our scholarship programs. You may have recalled that a couple times this session, I've been down here talking about scholarships and legislation that affected scholarships, and I pointed out to you that the collection of this data going forward was going to be critical to us having good information to make those decisions. 2142 specifically lays out what that information or what that data will be, specifically the dates that that data is due, and specifically how it's to arrive. This doesn't require our institutions to provide any information that they're not already providing
to higher ed. It just simply now codifies, we've kind of been put off and put off and to the point that it's time to make sure that we gather this data for our use in decision making going forward. Members, I'd appreciate a good vote on
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this bill. Members, heard an explanation of the
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bill. Anyone wish to speak against the bill, for the bill? Not the question for the House. Passive House Bill 2142. Prepare the machine. Mr. Clerk? Everyone voted?
Everyone voted? Cast up the ballot by a vote of 77 yea,
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10 nays, 6 present. You have passed the bill. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 1780. House
Bill 1780 by Representative Smith to authorize the creation of the Southern Arkansas University School of Veterinary
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Medicine. Representative Smith, you are recognized to explain the
Representative Garry L. Smith
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bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Colleagues, this is an opportunity enabling legislation for opening up the opportunity for a school of veterinary medicine at Southern Arkansas University.
I know there's not any money to fund this at this time, but we've got to start somewhere. I have people indicating that there might be some endowments that would come along if we would enable the legislation. I think that, as has been discussed quite fervently in this session, that we have a need for veterinarian services in our state, and this would help encourage that. So the timing is right for southern Arkansas. They've acquired a new piece of property there, the Governor Ben Laney property that's just north of the current campus, an opportune time for them to have something on the books to enable them to set up a school of this nature
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so that tooth floating could be topped there and other things necessary. I sure would appreciate a good vote on this. Thank you.
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Members, our next nation of the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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bill, for the bill? Not the question for the House. Passage of House Bill 1780. Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. Everyone voted. Everyone voted.
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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nay, 0, present. you have passed the bill. Mr. Clark read House Bill 1790. House
Bill 1790 by Representative Edwards authorized the preference for service disabled veterans and awarding of state contracts. Representative Edwards, you
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are recognized to explain the bill. You are
Representative John Charles Edwards
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going to have to bear with me today. today. These next two bills mean a whole lot to me, but as fate would have it, Representative
Shepard has as his pages today the children of Dr. Dwayne Daniels. I first knew him as Lieutenant Colonel Dwayne Daniels who served with me in Iraq. He's an orthopedic surgeon And Sarah and Julia and Jacob, your father, helped keep me going when I had a bad bone situation. And you're a reason why this bill that I'm about to talk about is important.
Ladies and gentlemen, the General Assembly and guests in the gallery, In this century that we're in, the burden of defending America has been left to an extraordinarily small number of people. And those people have families, they have children, they have communities. And I'm going to be honest with you, we don't think much about these people.
We don't. Now, there's some examples, though, I'm going to give that I'm very proud of. I want to talk about our senators, our U.S. senators briefly, and our governor. I'm proud that Senator Bozeman hired a gentleman named Ron Chastain to work for him. He was my brigade commander in Iraq. He's doing something to show that veterans are important. I'm proud of Senator Mark Pryor, who has probably done as much as any official we've had in
this state to support veterans. hired multiple veterans on his staff I'm proud of that I'm proud of our governor while our governor's done in remembering veterans I've seen our governor governor BB at more veterans and soldiers generals and almost anyone else I'm proud of what they've done but here's something we can be proud of what we've done as a General Assembly. Earlier this session, I was in the Aging Children and Youth Committee
and Representative Walker gave me a good challenge. I had a bill in there for veterans and he said, Representative Edwards, you can do more. You need to do more. And he was right. We We have a bill in front of us today that what it will do, it will set goals for the state of Arkansas to provide contracting preference. And we define the preference as a goal of 5 percent for those veterans who have at least
a 30 percent service-connected disability. And just so you'll know what I'm talking about, you know, there's at least three different kinds of veterans in this world. There are those that have paid the ultimate sacrifice. There are the lucky ones who have nothing service-connected about them because of people like the father of those children over there.
But then there are those who do have service-connected disabilities. This bill is tightly written to apply to them. It sets a goal. It's not a mandate, but it's a goal for our state that we can do something for these people. One of the reasons that I love this body so much is because I've had the privilege of
talking with so many of you about your family members that have been in the military that have had something. And I'm not going to get into every story, but I know that this body cares. And this is a small step that we can do in a democracy where we have not been asked to sacrifice much for those who sacrificed a great deal.
And now I'm talking about those who've been service-connected by 30% or more. That's a very small group of people. We've got two wars going on right now, and God help us that things go well where we have aircraft flying in Libya today. I would appreciate a good vote on this bill. You've heard the explanation of a bill. Is
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there anyone that would like to speak against this bill? Is there anyone that would like to speak for the bill?
Representative Ann V. Clemmer
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Representative Klemmer, you're recognized. You recognize and speak for the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I really didn't plan to speak for this today, but Representative Edwards and I have had a lot of conversations. And some of you may know, my husband's a disabled vet,
and he continued to work a long time after he retired from the military. But I've heard over the years people that don't, even though we have veterans' preferences, people that really don't like working with vets. You know, they've been tainted by all that military discipline. You know, they might actually expect somebody to show to work on time and do their job. And they're really often not as welcomed in the workplace as you might think. I just think Representative Edwardsville would make a wonderful step towards maybe giving them a good shot at contracts with the state.
I think we owe them that. And my husband's not
planning on going to work anywhere else, so that was not for his benefit. Thank
you very much. You heard Representative Klemmer speak for the bill, is there anyone that would like to speak against the
Representative Andy Mayberry
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bill? Is there anyone that would like to speak for the bill? If not, the question for the House is HB 1790, Mr. Clerk, prepare the machine.
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Has everyone voted? As everyone voted, Mr. Clerk cast up the ballot. By
Representative Andy Mayberry
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a vote of 93 yea, nay 1, and no present, you have passed your bill. Mr. Clerk,
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read House Bill 17, I mean 1971. House Bill 1971 by Representative Edwards to amend
the Minority Business Economic Development Act to include service-disabled veterans.
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Mr. Edwards, you're recognized. Explain your bill.
Representative John Charles Edwards
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This bill just adds service-connected veterans to the definition of the legislation that's already in place. Appreciate a good vote. You've heard an explanation
Representative Andy Mayberry
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of the bill. Is there anyone that would like to speak against the bill? Is there anyone that would like to speak for the bill? If not, the question before the House is HB 1971. Mr. Clerk, prepare the machine. Everyone voted?
Cast up the ballot, Mr. Clerk. By vote of 92, yea, no, nay, no, present. House Bill 1971 is passed. Ms. Clerk, read House Bill 1821. House Bill 1821 by Representative
Mayberry to give priority for Arkansas Academic Challenge scholarships to students whose parents was a member of the United States Armed Forces and was killed while performing military duty.
Chair
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Representative Mayberry, you're recognized to explain your bill.
Representative Andy Mayberry
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I probably should have asked Representative Edwards to come and present this
bill for me today. Just coincidentally, it falls on the calendar right behind his. The title is fairly self-explanatory, to give priority for an Arkansas Academic Challenge scholarship to a student whose parent was a member of the U.S. Armed Forces and killed while performing military duty. Let me give you a little bit of history on this. The way this came about, actually, is I was sitting in my office one day,
and a constituent just came in off the street, wanted to talk about a few different issues going on,
and had a few different ideas for bills and said, you know, we ought to have a scholarship specifically for kids whose parents or a parent has died in service to this country. Well, I got to thinking about it a little bit. I said, well, you know, we already have this scholarship fund, and we have these students who are qualified for scholarships, but there are times, potentially could be more times in the future when someone who is qualified, the funding may not be there to fund every
single scholarship. What this bill does is it doesn't change the eligibility requirements. It doesn't make anyone qualified for anything they're not already qualified. It simply ensures that if ever at some point in time that not every scholarship is funded for everyone who is qualified for that and that not everyone who is qualified receives that scholarship, that these kids are not on that list, that they're toward the beginning. And I understand that there are a number of other grants
and programs and scholarships and such as that that help these kids, but let's keep in mind exactly what Representative Edwards was talking about. These are children whose parent who they would have relied upon to help them with financial assistance, with a better way of life through an education. They're not there now. And the reason they're not there is because they gave the ultimate sacrifice for our country again we're not expanding any
kind of qualifications no no eligibility requirements being modified for these individuals it simply make sure that if the funding's not there they're not the ones negatively impacted by this I would
certainly appreciate a good vote you've heard an explanation of the bill
is there anyone that would like to speak against
Representative Andy Mayberry
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this bill representative english you'd like to you're recognized to speak against the bill
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representative english you're recognized to speak
thank you after that wonderful thing we've heard about our veterans and the folks who serve in the military i hate to come down here and say that I am against this bill. I grew up in the military. My husband spent two tours in Vietnam. My father served overseas in three wars. We have numerous, numerous friends who left families, just as we're talking about, without a parent. But what I will say is that there are many programs for these students.
What I hate to see happen here is that we begin with this scholarship program to start segmenting out different groups of people that should be looked at before other people. This is supposed to be for all of the citizens of the state of Arkansas, no matter what their income level, no matter their background, no matter where they live. And I would hate to start making distinctions about special groups of people. And military children are one of those special groups of people and say I think that I am
so proud of all of the veterans, all of the folks who are serving overseas and most of all those families who no longer have a parent. But I really have a problem using military children as a way to start moving the scholarship program into other directions. Thank you. You've heard Representative English speak
against the bill. Is there anyone that would like to speak for the bill? Against the bill? If not,
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Mr. Clerk, Representative Mayberry, you're recognized to close for your bill.
Representative Andy Mayberry
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I certainly understand and respect the sentiments of Representative English. I will say that from what
I understand, this past year, this would have affected absolutely zero children. And so you say, well, why did we do this? Well, because, and that's a good thing, because what that means is that we don't have dependents out there who fall into this qualification at the moment.
But that doesn't mean that we can't ever have. And if it means a difference in just one or two children's lives, that could be a lifelong difference. And I
would appreciate a good vote on this. Thank you. You've heard
Representative Mayberry close for his bill. The question before the House is House Bill 1821. Mr. Clerk, prepare the ballot.
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Has everyone voted? Has everyone voted? Mr. Clerk
Representative Andy Mayberry
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cast up the ballot. By a vote of 56 yea, 19 nay, and one present, House Bill 1821 is approved. Members of the House, I would
like to recognize, excuse me, Representative Mayberry, you're recognized for the clincher. All in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed? No. Ayes have it.
Representative Andy Mayberry
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If you would, members of the House, representatives, if you'd welcome in the back of the room today, the doctor of the day is Dr. Joe Stallings from Jonesboro, Arkansas. Thank you. Also, we have our nurse of the day is Geraldine Rambeau. Ms. Rambeau, would
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you stand? Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 2002.
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House Bill 2002 by Representative Link to create the Arkansas Great Places Program. Representative Link, you're
Representative Kelley Linck
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recognized to present your bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members of the House, I am absolutely honored to get a chance to run this piece of legislation. Arkansas Great Places is something I walked into as a freshman and found out that numerous people have been working on it for years. And you see some of them are co-sponsors and others do not necessarily have the name on the bill, but their footprint is in the language.
This is a great program and a good bill. what this is going to be is a I want to say it's a demonstration project I don't want to say it's a trial project I believe we're going to demonstrate that the Great Places program is one of great economic development opportunities we're going to do with this piece of legislation we're going to restructure an existing board we're not creating any new boards any new councils or anything else and this board is going to select each year
I'm sorry, every two years, up to four recipients of help, whether that's financial or whether that's technical assistance, one in each congressional district. There's a fair amount of legislation in front of you, but that explains it pretty succinctly that that entity that receives this help can be a city, a community, a county, a not-for-profit organization representing something that can be a great place in the state of arkansas you say
exactly what is a great place and i was i'm hoping representative walker is listening this because he's made a great point this year a great place in the delta is much different than a great place in the timberlands which is much different than a great place in the ozarks which is tremendously different than a great place in the arkansas river valley for that reason this legislation has a fair amount of flexibility in it and so this panel chosen by heads of different agencies in the state of arkansas will choose the recipients of great places the first year
there will be four chosen and that they'll have two years to complete themselves as a great place using funding if we make it available to them this is enabling legislation there's no funding attached to it so if we choose to enable this with funding then we will give those those four the opportunity to help them become a great place two years after that we can choose up to four which really want this these people to be great places and if there's not a community a city an organization a county that that uh... meets the
criteria for beer a great place will not choose all four uh... great deal i can tell you about this i could probably appear we appear for two hours i know you don't want that but i will be fairly brief here This is modeled after Iowa legislation. Iowa's been doing this, I believe, six years now. And if I can, I'm going to take the time to read you one paragraph from a conclusion of an 80-page report written about the Iowa Great Places Program. The Iowa Great Places Program is a strong engine for economic growth and sustainability, and the place is chosen as recipients of the designation.
In performance measures ranging from demographics to economic measures, the Iowa Great Places are outperforming their peers in Iowa and across the Midwest. Retail sales growth, increase in hotel stays, business growth, and employment growth are evident in almost all of the first nine Iowa Great Places. What that means is this program has absolutely worked. We have modeled this program after the success that Iowa has seen in theirs. this will be in the hands of the arkansas department of heritage and they have been
they have embraced the concept they've been involved with writing the legislation they've put a great deal of hours in it and helping us get this off the ground i believe that this legislation this project this demonstration project will help the communities that were ready to help themselves move forward we're going to give it we're going to give those folks a good hand and helping themselves move forward and i believe this this is a great place to start um
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i would accept questions uh representative summers what purpose
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question mr speaker you're recognized is it true this will require a special license plate i believe it would
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be an excellent candidate for some designation yes sir Members, you
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heard an explanation of the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill, for the bill?
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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If not, the question for the House, passage of House Bill 2002. Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk.
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Has everyone voted? Has everyone voted? Cast up the ballot by a vote of 92 yeas, 0 nays, 0 present.
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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You have passed the bill. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill
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1889. House Bill 1889 by Representative Slinker to amend Arkansas law concerning certain elections for local boards of
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community colleges. Representative Slinker, you are recognized to come
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and explain the bill. thank you mr. speaker
Representative Mary L. Slinkard
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members this board this bill is a little bit unique it does concern
certain elections for local community college districts it current law provides that if a community college district is composed of one or more school districts in the county then they would need to have their election at the annual school district's election in September. What this bill does is to change that to, say, one or two school districts within the county. There was much discussion about this in the committee, and I have amended it.
This bill also says that if only one candidate and no millage question is on the ballot, then the board of trustees of that community college can request that no polling places be open and the election is conducted by early and absentee voting the same as as annual school districts election language states it also requires a separate ballot for this community college and it also provides this bill also provides that the community college will reimburse the
county for all election costs of that election i would appreciate a good vote thank you members you've
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heard an explanation of the bill anyone wishing to speak against the bill for the bill representative ingram you're recognized to come
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and speak for the bill they're not recognized to speak for the bill all right the one
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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we speak against for the bill if not the question for the house passive house bill 1889 prepare the machine mr clerk everyone voted everyone voted
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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of 90 a zero nays zero present you pass the bill mr clerk read house bill 1206 house bill
1206 by representative bell to clarify that health care facilities owned but not operated by county shall have equal treatment as hospitals under arkansas public employees retirement system laws
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representative bell you are recognized to explain
Representative Nate Bell
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the bill thank you mr speaker members this bill came about as a result of my learning of a lawsuit that was pending against my local
county nursing home in montgomery county this bill doesn't seek to remedy that lawsuit or go back into the past it simply seeks to prevent future lawsuits for both montgomery county and the additional counties around the state that own county nursing homes but don't operate them The bill was vetted pretty thoroughly in joint retirement, and we did amend it to deal with some concerns that dealt specifically with Randolph County. Just briefly, I'll kind of explain to you what the bill does and doesn't do,
because otherwise there are going to be, I'm sure, a large number of questions. The law currently is not clear as to whether citizens who work for these type of facilities fall under APERS or not. County-owned hospitals are exempt. Many of these facilities were originally developed as hospitals and have gradually, over time, become health care facilities, such as nursing homes and assisted living facilities.
Again, what we seek to do is to clarify exactly where those employees who fall into this type of facility are under Arkansas law as we have conflicting decisions. What the bill does is it applies to health care facilities that are only owned but not operated by counties. Most of these are operated by third-party boards. It seeks to allow the governing boards of the facilities to declare their status for purposes of participation in APERS.
It will require a two-thirds vote of the governing board to declare the status, and it must occur within one year of the date that this law is enacted or within one year from the date that the county acquires the facility. There's no fiscal impact to the bill, and you do have a statement from APERS to that effect on your desk. What the bill doesn't do, it doesn't affect any employee who's currently in APERS. APERS Director Ms. Gail Stone did testify to that in committee yesterday. She indicated that she was comfortable with the bill subsequent to our amendment.
bill also won't affect the current pending lawsuit the situation that we're in is in montgomery county specifically one additional lawsuit would simply put this nursing facility out of business and for those of you who have been to that facility or want a similar facility the quality is exceptional it's far above what's available in most of the private care facilities around the state and i've just been impressed every time i've been there it's the largest employer in montgomery county currently it's a county that's very small county and has virtually
no industrial base and we we seek to preserve that and not put the county in a position where they are forced to close it to deal with these lawsuits going forward again i'll take any questions that any of you might have if anybody has
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any questions thank you members heard an explanation of the bill anyone wishing to speak against the
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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bill before the bill not the question for the house passage of house bill 1206 prepare the machine
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mr clerk members voting on the bill and the emergency
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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clause Has everyone voted? Has everyone voted by a vote of 89-91-0-nay-0 present? You have passed the bill and the emergency clause. Representative Lovell, what purpose? I guess.
All right. We're not to announcements yet. No, it's a request. All
Representative Buddy Lovell
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right, what's your request, Representative Lovell? The request is for Representative Hall to pass over House Bill 1490 on the expungement
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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and also the motion to refer. All right. Representative Hall moves we pass over House Bill 1490 without objection, so ordered.
I'm going to leave it on the calendar. Representative Lovell, Representative Hall, I'm going to leave it on the calendar. Leave it on the calendar. Representative Hall also moves that we pass over House Bill 14, well, never mind, on the motion to re-refer, pass it over, and leave it on the calendar without objection, so ordered. Members, one more recognition, and then we're going to do a little something out of the ordinary here.
In keeping with our policy of not introducing the pages that we are privileged to have serving today, I'm going to continue that policy, but Representative King has a number of pages here who are members of the Boy Scouts of America with their in-uniform, and we just want to pay our appreciation to the Boy Scouts of America as they are represented here.
by the pages today. Members, as indicated to you yesterday, in order to keep us on a pace to have maximum time to consider the bills which remain on our respective committee agendas.
We're going to recess until 3.30 for the purpose of the following committees, and I'll let you announce your own, but it's indicated to me that education, transportation, and public health would like to meet this afternoon. Now, let me make this clear. We're going to recess and come back, and then upon adjournment, state agencies is going to meet jointly with the state agencies for the Senate to consider the constitutional amendment.
So this meeting now, while we're in recess, will not conflict. The meetings that we're going to recess for will not conflict with your ability to attend or participate in the state agency's meeting upon adjournment. Any questions?
Seeing none, we will stand in recess until 3.30. We will have announcements. We're in recess. All right. Announcements. Representative Cheatham.
Representative Eddie L. Cheatham
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Mr. Speaker, Education will convene in room 138 in 10 minutes. That'd be about 2.25. Okay. Education,
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public health. Representative Barnett, what purpose? Question. All right, sir. And can we meet before 3
Representative Jonathan Barnett
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o'clock in transportation, or do we have to wait until 3 o'clock? No,
Chair
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no. We are going to stand in recess right now so that the committee can meet, and we will come back.
Isn't there supposed to be a two-hour notice? That was supposed to have been given in your committee earlier today. It was, but the agenda is what
Representative Jonathan Barnett
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I'm – okay, I'll just withdraw the question. Transportation will meet right now in Big Mac. Thank you. Okay. Representative Woods, what purpose? Announcement. You're recognized. Thank
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted
Representative Jon Woods
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to reiterate that public health will meet right now in room 130.
Chair
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Thank you. Thank you. All right, members. Representative Hamer, what purpose?
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Announcement, please. You're recognized. For Chairman Williams, there will be no judiciary meeting today, neither
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now nor later. There will be no judiciary meeting at all today. Thank you, Representative
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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Hamer. Any other announcements? Okay, members, we'll be back in the chamber at 3.30 to hear the remainder of our yellow calendar. We'll stand in recess.
Agenda
Call to Order
Invocation
Roll Call
HB1869
HB1611
HB2207
HB2142
HB1780
HB1790
HB1971
HB1821
HB2002
HB1889
HB1206
HB1490
Adjournment
Announcements
Documents
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Speakers
Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr.
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Representative David Fielding
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Chair
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Representative Duncan Baird Chair
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Representative David "Bubba" Powers Chair
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Representative Bobby J. Pierce
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Representative Mike Patterson
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Representative Terry Rice
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Representative Ratlitt
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Representative Tracy Pennartz
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Speaker 2
Representative Marshall Wright
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Representative Barry Hyde Chair
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Representative Garry L. Smith
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Representative John Charles Edwards
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Representative Ann V. Clemmer
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Representative Keith M. Ingram Chair
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Representative Andy Mayberry
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Speaker 94
Representative Jane English Chair
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Representative Kelley Linck
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Speaker 89
Representative Mary L. Slinkard
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Representative Nate Bell
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Representative Buddy Lovell
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Representative Eddie L. Cheatham
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Representative Jonathan Barnett
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Representative Jon Woods
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