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March 31, 2011- Part 3

March 31, 2011
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Bills discussed (51)
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HB1818 · 3 mentions in transcript, chapter
Matched: “have passed the bill. Mr. Clerk, read in the House bill 1818”
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SB805 · 3 mentions in chapter, transcript
Matched: “SB805”
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SB922 · 3 mentions in chapter, transcript
Matched: “SB922”
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HB1226 · 2 mentions in chapter, transcript
Matched: “HB1226”
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SB289 · 2 mentions in transcript
Matched: “…s batch the bills from starting with 1226 and going through Senate Bill 289. All right. Members, you heard that”
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HB1310 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “be in the batch. House Bill 1310. House Bill 1364. Senate Bill 11.”
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HB1364 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “be in the batch. House Bill 1310. House Bill 1364. Senate Bill 11.”
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HB1826 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “HB1826”
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HB1832 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “HB1832”
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SB101 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “Senate Bill 21. Senate Bill 25. Senate Bill 50. Senate Bill 101. Senate Bill 148 Senate Bill 184 Senate Bill 187 Senate Bil…”
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SB11 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “be in the batch. House Bill 1310. House Bill 1364. Senate Bill 11.”
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SB148 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…e Bill 21. Senate Bill 25. Senate Bill 50. Senate Bill 101. Senate Bill 148 Senate Bill 184 Senate Bill 187 Senate Bill 188 Senate Bill…”
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SB184 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…e Bill 25. Senate Bill 50. Senate Bill 101. Senate Bill 148 Senate Bill 184 Senate Bill 187 Senate Bill 188 Senate Bill 189 Senate Bill…”
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SB187 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…e Bill 50. Senate Bill 101. Senate Bill 148 Senate Bill 184 Senate Bill 187 Senate Bill 188 Senate Bill 189 Senate Bill 190 Senate Bill…”
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SB188 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…e Bill 101. Senate Bill 148 Senate Bill 184 Senate Bill 187 Senate Bill 188 Senate Bill 189 Senate Bill 190 Senate Bill 198 Senate Bill…”
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SB189 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…te Bill 148 Senate Bill 184 Senate Bill 187 Senate Bill 188 Senate Bill 189 Senate Bill 190 Senate Bill 198 Senate Bill 200 Senate Bill…”
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SB190 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…te Bill 184 Senate Bill 187 Senate Bill 188 Senate Bill 189 Senate Bill 190 Senate Bill 198 Senate Bill 200 Senate Bill 210”
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SB198 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…te Bill 187 Senate Bill 188 Senate Bill 189 Senate Bill 190 Senate Bill 198 Senate Bill 200 Senate Bill 210”
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SB200 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…te Bill 188 Senate Bill 189 Senate Bill 190 Senate Bill 198 Senate Bill 200 Senate Bill 210”
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SB21 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “Senate Bill 21. Senate Bill 25. Senate Bill 50. Senate Bill 101. Senate Bi…”
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SB210 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…te Bill 189 Senate Bill 190 Senate Bill 198 Senate Bill 200 Senate Bill 210”
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SB229 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “Senate Bill 229 Senate Bill 266 Senate Bill 277, Senate Bill 278, Senate Bi…”
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SB25 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “Senate Bill 21. Senate Bill 25. Senate Bill 50. Senate Bill 101. Senate Bill 148 Senate Bi…”
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SB256 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB256”
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SB266 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “Senate Bill 229 Senate Bill 266 Senate Bill 277, Senate Bill 278, Senate Bill 279, Senate B…”
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SB277 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “Senate Bill 229 Senate Bill 266 Senate Bill 277, Senate Bill 278, Senate Bill 279, Senate Bill 280, Senate…”
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SB278 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “Senate Bill 229 Senate Bill 266 Senate Bill 277, Senate Bill 278, Senate Bill 279, Senate Bill 280, Senate Bill 281, Senate…”
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SB279 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…Bill 229 Senate Bill 266 Senate Bill 277, Senate Bill 278, Senate Bill 279, Senate Bill 280, Senate Bill 281, Senate Bill 282, Senate…”
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SB280 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…Bill 266 Senate Bill 277, Senate Bill 278, Senate Bill 279, Senate Bill 280, Senate Bill 281, Senate Bill 282, Senate Bill 284, Senate…”
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SB281 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…ill 277, Senate Bill 278, Senate Bill 279, Senate Bill 280, Senate Bill 281, Senate Bill 282, Senate Bill 284, Senate Bill 285, Senate…”
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SB282 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…ill 278, Senate Bill 279, Senate Bill 280, Senate Bill 281, Senate Bill 282, Senate Bill 284, Senate Bill 285, Senate Bill 286, Senate…”
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SB284 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…ill 279, Senate Bill 280, Senate Bill 281, Senate Bill 282, Senate Bill 284, Senate Bill 285, Senate Bill 286, Senate Bill 287, Senate…”
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SB285 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…ill 280, Senate Bill 281, Senate Bill 282, Senate Bill 284, Senate Bill 285, Senate Bill 286, Senate Bill 287, Senate Bill 288, and Sen…”
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SB286 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…ill 281, Senate Bill 282, Senate Bill 284, Senate Bill 285, Senate Bill 286, Senate Bill 287, Senate Bill 288, and Senate Bill 289.”
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SB287 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…ill 282, Senate Bill 284, Senate Bill 285, Senate Bill 286, Senate Bill 287, Senate Bill 288, and Senate Bill 289.”
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SB288 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…ill 284, Senate Bill 285, Senate Bill 286, Senate Bill 287, Senate Bill 288, and Senate Bill 289.”
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SB297 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB297”
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SB328 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB328”
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SB339 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB339”
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SB50 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “Senate Bill 21. Senate Bill 25. Senate Bill 50. Senate Bill 101. Senate Bill 148 Senate Bill 184 Senate Bi…”
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SB516 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB516”
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SB677 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB677”
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SB718 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB718”
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SB759 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB759”
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SB790 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB790”
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SB791 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB791”
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SB81 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB81”
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SB833 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB833”
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SB896 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…he Senate respectfully requests the return to the Senate of Senate Bill 896, respectfully submitted, and Cornwell, Secretary of the Sen…”
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SB930 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB930”
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SB958 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB958”
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Representative Efrem Elliott Unverified 4:30
Members, please take your seats. The house will come back to order.
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Chair Unverified 5:00
Members, we're going to go to our budget calendar first. Before we do that, Mr. Clerk, if you read the letter from the Senate here. March 31, 2011, to the Honorable Sherry Stacks. Dear Mrs. Stacks, the Senate respectfully requests the return to the Senate of Senate Bill 896, respectfully submitted, and Cornwell, Secretary of the Senate. Without objection, Mr. Clerk, turn the bill to the Senate.
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Speaker 12 5:33
Okay, members, go into the yellow budget
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Chair Unverified 5:38
calendar. Representative Webb, you are recognized. How you want to proceed on the... Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Representative Kathy Webb Unverified 6:04
What I would like to do is batch the bills from starting with 1226 and going through Senate Bill 289. All right. Members, you heard that
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Chair Unverified 6:25
information. Any bills you want to be pulled out of the batch? Representative Kerr, what purpose?
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Representative Allen Kerr Unverified 6:36
Motion to move 1226 from the batch and vote
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Chair Unverified 6:40
on it separately. All right. We'll take House Bill 1226 out of the batch. Any other bills? All right, Mr. Clerk, read the bills. It'll be in the batch. House Bill 1310. House Bill 1364. Senate Bill 11. Senate Bill 21. Senate Bill 25. Senate Bill 50. Senate Bill 101. Senate Bill 148 Senate Bill 184 Senate Bill 187 Senate Bill 188 Senate Bill 189 Senate Bill 190 Senate Bill 198 Senate Bill 200 Senate Bill 210 Senate Bill 229 Senate Bill 266 Senate Bill 277, Senate Bill 278, Senate Bill 279, Senate Bill 280, Senate Bill 281, Senate Bill 282, Senate Bill 284, Senate Bill 285, Senate Bill 286, Senate Bill 287, Senate Bill 288, and Senate Bill 289. Representative Webb, you're recognized as explaining those bills. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. These are
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Representative Kathy Webb Unverified 8:31
bills that have been approved by a joint budget, and I would appreciate a good vote. All right, members,
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Chair Unverified 8:40
you've heard an explanation of the bills. Anyone wishing to speak against the bills? For the bills, I have not. Question for the House. Is passage of the bills enumerated in the batch by the clerk? Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. You're voting on the bills and the emergency clause. Everyone voted? Everyone voted? Cast up the ballot. I voted 95 yeas, 0 nay, and 0 present. You have passed the bills and the emergency clause. Mr. Clerk, read Senate Bill 805. Senate Bill 805
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Speaker 33 10:07
by Joint Budget Committee in Ag to Amend the Revenue Classification Law of Arkansas.
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Chair Unverified 10:16
Representative Webb, you're recognized to explain the bill. Thank
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Representative Kathy Webb Unverified 10:19
you, Mr. Speaker. This is a bill that we bring up in every session. When we change, we cancel a board, we add a board, and we need to change funds. It's a cleanup bill. Appreciate a good vote. Our members have heard an explanation
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Chair Unverified 10:32
of the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill, before the bill, not the question before the House. Passes Senate Bill 805. Pair of the machine, Mr. Clerk. You're voting on the bill and the emergency clause. Has everyone voted? Has everyone voted? Cast up the ballot by a vote of 93 yeas, zero nays, zero present. Do you pass the bill and the emergency clause? Mr. Clerk, read Senate Bill Bill 922. Senate Bill 922 by Senator Lamoureux to revise the compensation plan under the Uniform Classification Compensation Act for the 2011 through 2013 biannual period and to declare an emergency. Representative Webber, you're recognized to explain the bill. Thank you,
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Representative Kathy Webb Unverified 11:27
Mr. Speaker. This is a bill that's similar to the one we just passed from Senator Lamoureux, a clean-up bill. class and compensation bill. There's no change to the pay plan, just changing titles and items like that. Members, you heard an
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Chair Unverified 11:43
explanation of the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill, for the bill? Not to question for the House passage of Senate Bill 922. Prepare of the machine, Mr. Clerk. Everyone voted? Written on the bill in the emergency clause. Everyone voted. Cast up the ballot.
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Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr. Unverified 12:08
97, yea. 0, nay. 0, President. You
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Chair Unverified 12:19
have passed the bill. Mr. Clerk, read in the House bill 1818
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Speaker 33 12:25
house bill 1818 by representative webb an act to amend the arkansas revenue stabilization
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Chair Unverified 12:29
law of arkansas representative webb you're recognized to explain
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Representative Kathy Webb Unverified 12:38
the bill thank you mr speaker members this is the bill that amends arkansas revenue stabilization law the schedule has been on your desk since Monday, and I hope that you're all familiar with it. I appreciate those who came and asked questions, good questions about this bill, and I applaud all of you for your input because everybody has contributed to this final product. As you know, because of revenue stabilization, if the revenue isn't there, we'll have cuts. Our $4.56 billion budget funds Category A with increases only to ensure adequacy, public safety, money to keep salaries flat, and the normal every-other-year money to fund elections. Together, in a bipartisan manner, we passed $31 million in tax cuts from anticipated revenue. We dealt with the 27th pay period, which was satisfied through a variety of funds, and we had to because the obligation falls into the upcoming fiscal year. We are, as I said, fully funding Category A in this budget. If revenue exceeds forecast, the first $10 million will go to a rainy day to be used by the Governor upon Council approval to plug any needs, but there is no COLA. Members, there is no perfect budget, as there is no perfect bill except what sits in our desk drawer. This is a product of compromise, of members working together, representing a diverse group of people for the common good. I ask you for a good vote. Members, for
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Chair Unverified 14:27
an explanation of the bill, anyone wishing to speak against the bill, Representative King, you're recognized to speak against the bill.
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Representative Bryan B. King Unverified 14:49
Recognized. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know, one of the things that we do when you get to be a third-termer is sometimes you get on joint budget. And some of the questions that have come up at question reps about where have you been, question things in budget, and working on it up until that, through that whole process. And I can tell you that I have worked on the budget. I've done it in personnel, and I want to say this first, that my personnel, Chairman Evaldi-Lindsey, I appreciate your efforts and working, and you've been extremely helpful in that. And the Joint Budget Chairman, Kathy Webb, has, I will say in my third term, has been the best budget chairman to answer questions, listen to people, and work. And they are to be commended for that. And I'm not, you know, we get up here and we're always supposed to just say nice things about everybody, but everybody knows me. I'm not two-faced, because I always quote Abraham Lincoln. If I was two-faced, I certainly wouldn't be using this one. But one of the things in that work on budget that I did was found that if you'll look at your sheets, that the job growth in state government has went up like this. If you look at the first sheet that you get, it kind of outlines, and I had the Bureau do this through Moody's to give you some statistics to look at. And I'm asking each one of you just to look at this. You're fixing to put your stamp of approval on a $4.6 billion budget, so I'm asking you to look at this. In 2007, look at Arkansas's employment in thousands, 1297. 2010, it was 1252. Arkansas's unemployed in thousands, 71,000. 2010, 104,000. The most telling statistic that what I have experienced myself in business and my family's income, our business income, has suffered over the last four years, but if you look at Arkansas's median household income, it has went down from $40,795 to $35,075. Pretty dramatic drop in the last four years. The other, and like I said, the Bureau got me these statistics through Moody's, is what they're quoting. But if you'll turn the page, what I found was that in the last four years, and I'm a third-termer, and I had been watching this the whole time, at the same time, as I say, there's a government world that happens down here. There's the real world. And what has happened in the real world is that we have seen those statistics, and many of you know that things have got tougher in the last four years with the economy and what's happened. But if you pull out one agency, and the agencies that I tried to identify in personnel from the data that I got was the ones that had almost a 20% increase in salaries and benefits to 30%. And I pulled out two agencies that qualified for that to identify. And some of you in revenue tax saw where I pointed that out. But DF&A, as you can tell, their salaries and benefits in 2007 equaled $105 million. dollars. In 2010, it went up to 127. And in that testimony, which can get heeded, and I certainly can get heeded in revenue and tax, the DF&A came, and as they should and be committed for, they defended their actions of why they needed that. And they had to have other programs that had to be done with, dealt with, that they needed more money for salaries and personnel. And I understand that. But what I say in the real world, and what's happened to me at different times, is when you're income goes down in your business. And in your personal income, you have to do what? You have to do more for less. And what I see is, once again, and I'll point this out again, is that you saw state government jobs go up. You saw the amount we pay for salaries and benefits go up. At the same time, people's personal incomes were going down. And that correlation is not good for state government. Where it justifies going up is when people's personal income is going up. If you turn to the next page, the AG's office, you can see almost a 30% increase in salaries and benefits. Once again, they're doing their job by trying to say that they need these salaries and benefits. All I'm saying is, in the real world, we're having to do more for less. That's what's happening in our real world. If you turn the next page, you can see the state employees. Every time you talk about job growth, they come back and say it's higher ed. So I had Kim Arnell and them figure out some more job growth numbers that didn't include higher ed. If you look, the entities not included is one of them's higher ed and some of them at the bottom. You can see that state employees' salaries above $50,000 has grown, was $3,931 in 2007, and in 2009 was $5,058. Now, I will say, looking at it from a business perspective, there's probably one agency that deserves to have more salaries and benefits employees, and that's prisons, because we had to address that earlier, that that need is going up. Let me tell you about cutting jobs. It's easy as a Republican, when Democrats attack Republicans as saying, well, you know, you're all for cutting government until you actually have to do it. And that's true. And let me tell you in the real world, some of the experiences that I had was that in the poultry equipment business, we had real good years through the 90s. And then in the later 90s, corn prices skyrocketed. And the new expansions and everything went down. And one of the toughest days I ever had to go through that made me grow up in life was when I had to go tell some guys there was no more work for them. Good guys. and they had to go find something else to do. But that's what you have to do in the real world. I can say that I have, when the governor says that if you want tax cuts, you need to find the money to pay for it. And I feel like I have identified a decision and I have put it to the leaderships and done the duty of trying to talk to everybody that state job growth has went way up too much, much like we saw the thing with cars, Except with people, it's different, and I do know that. But one of the things that you can do is, as a budget, you can say, I'm going to decrease spending here and make tough decisions, but I feel like we could do better with a budget that can be re-referred back and reconsidered because we can cut someplace to other areas, and we can create more jobs with tax cuts out in the private sector. Representative Menards has an excellent proposal. We could do a better budget and pay for Representative Garner's capital gains. We could do a better budget and do the agriculture tax cut that Representative Cowling and I worked so hard on. If you know one thing about DF&A is rightfully so, they always underestimate future growth. We don't know what that is. But excluding something real bad happening, we know that DF&A, as they should, underestimates future growth. Let me tell you that the other part of this RSA that I disagree with is the distribution between colleges and two-year colleges. And one, two examples of that, we have two junior colleges that have had declining enrollment over the last few years that are getting a lot more money. So you have some colleges that have 1,200 students that may be getting $9 million while you go to another part of the state, and that same college, two-year college, is only getting $4 or $5 million. So there's an unequal distribution in the amount that go to college and universities, and I disagree with that part. I think we could make a better budget by redistributing that money for higher ed and trying to use some more things to look at something like student enrollment and not have the disparity that one college gets this and then one college gets that. The other last thing is, since I've been a freshman, and I think some things need to change, is that three days to vote on RSA on your desk is not enough. Used to, in my first two sessions, I believe, or the third one, RSA was put on your desk on Friday and you had to vote on it on Monday. That was the three days. And to the credit of the Speaker and the Joint Budget Chairman, they have put the budget on the day that you're through the week, and that's to be commended. But I can tell you that you're going to put your stamp of approval on a $4.9 or $6 billion budget in three days. I always hate using sports analogies to equate to politics, but to me, joint budget, and I could be wrong, is that you have preseason football in the fall hearings. You have the actual game in joint budget while the session's going on. When RSA comes back, that's the last two minutes. And I just feel like for future sessions, and I hope it gets changed for you freshmen, for all of you, that you have a longer time to consider RSA. My past experiences with RSAs is it's a lot of times, much like the health care bill that was debated in Washington, D.C., you don't know what's in it until after you already pass it. And last time, you know, we voted on RSA, and I didn't vote in 2007 because I felt like the real world was suffering.
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Chair Unverified 24:42
Representative King, you were speaking on the bill, and you've kind of gotten wandering off here. Can you get back on the bill, please?
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Speaker 50 24:50
Well, Mr. Speaker, could I ask a
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Representative Bryan B. King Unverified 24:54
question? Yes, sir. I'm trying to explain why this bill should be defeated today. And one of the things, reasons is because I
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Speaker 9 25:03
feel like people need more time to decide. Representative King, that is a valid proposition to offer, but not on the content
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Chair Unverified 25:09
of the bill. I mean, we're here under the rules of the House, and that the bill is before the fact that you may wish to have additional time is not germane to the content of the bill. And I ask you to speak on the
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Representative Bryan B. King Unverified 25:23
bill. All right. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. what you're going to be voting on today could be a better better budget bill it is a good it is a good budget i will agree to that but it could be a better budget bill and as i have to deal with lawyers up here let me explain because we talked about the budget process i sit on personnel and was outvoted so i just found the data and and then it goes to joint budget and then it comes It's much like in a courtroom in the committee structure that you get to vote. You have a court, a circuit court, you have appeals court, and the Supreme Court. On this budget, you're almost the Supreme Court, and that's where this is today. So you have a choice to rule on it today. And what I want to say is that I want to finish with, once again, commending Kathy Webb or Representative Webb and Representative Lindsays as my two chairs on joint budget. Once again, I will say nothing but good things about them that they have been 100% more helpful than any past chairmen in the past. But I can say that if we defeat this bill, and it goes back to joint budget, that we can make a better bill. Rather than put your stamp on approval on a bill that does grow government, it does not include some of the tax cuts that I believe that can reduce revenue for the state but create jobs in the private sector. With that, I'd take any
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Chair Unverified 26:55
questions. President King has spoken against the bill. Anyone who wishes to speak for the bill? Representative Penarch, you're recognized to speak for
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Representative Tracy Pennartz Unverified 27:20
the bill. Mr. Speaker, Colleagues. You know, I was thinking what I might say to you about RSA. This document represents hours and hours and hours of work, not just by me, hours that I can't count now. From the fall budget hearings, we have spent hundreds of hours by joint committee members going through budgets, looking at base, looking at what the improvement, how we could make a better budget, how we could authorize positions. And I think after all those pre-budget hearings, and then again, and going over the budgets again, for members to have opportunity to have input, we have refined this budget, this RSA that's presented to you. And through the help of members like my good colleague, Mr. King, and others on the Personnel Committee, we have done some what I think are good advances in addressing the reduction in our employee force for state government. And I look forward in the interim to working with my colleagues to do that even further. But I know in my earnestness, and sometimes I know y'all, I'm really earnest about the budget. And I can get as aggressive as anybody in asking questions to department chairs about these budgets. and they have answered some tough questions from me about the budget. So I asked you to give full faith to those of us who have worked all these hours and ask the questions that you couldn't ask because you couldn't be there. This is a good RSA bill and I think good for the state. I asked your positive response to the RSA bill.
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Chair Unverified 29:21
Representative Bernard has spoken for the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill, for the bill? Representative Webb, you're recognized to close for the bill. Thank you, Mr.
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Representative Kathy Webb Unverified 29:34
Speaker, members. And I do want to thank my colleagues on the other side of the aisle who have worked hard on personnel and the other committees and who have made this bill a better bill. So, because of the public policy that we enact, that does often create a need for more jobs. In looking at states around us, Arkansas ranks pretty well in the size of state government. We are at a point to do something that very few states in this country have the opportunity to do, to pass a balanced budget, and to give significant tax cuts to the people of Arkansas. It's not perfect, but it's a very good bill. I would appreciate a good vote. Thank you. Members of Representative Webb,
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Chair Unverified 30:26
it's closed for the bill. Question for the House is passage of Senate, excuse me, House Bill 1818. Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. Voting on the bill and the emergency clause, everyone voted, everyone voted, cast up the ballot by a vote of 70AEA 15A1 present, you passed the bill and the emergency clause. Mr. Clark, read House Bill 1832. House Bill 1832 by Representative Webb, the distribution of the 88th session projects account of the General Improvement Fund to provide additional funds for the state budget. President Webb, you are recognized to explain the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Representative Kathy Webb Unverified 31:16
This is the GIF distribution bill for the 88th General Assembly. The schedule for this bill has also been on your desk since Monday. The first section of this bill deals with the funding of GIF, how it's funded, where the money comes from. And then we go into the legislative projects, which are enumerated, totaling $10 million, with the Executive Discretionary Division not to exceed $40 million. There are protections in this bill so that that will not exceed $40 million. Some of you have asked me about the large numbers you see in the governor's section. It's discretionary, but it will not exceed $40 million. dollars. We have had input from all members on this, and I think it's better than we've done before. I appreciate that input, and I would appreciate a good vote. Thank you.
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Chair Unverified 32:18
I've heard an explanation of the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill or the bill? If not, question for the House, passage of House Bill 1832. Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. Voting on the bill and the emergency clause, everyone voted. Cast up the ballot by a vote of 91 yeas, 0 nay, 3 present. You have passed the bill and the emergency clause. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 1826. House Bill 1826 by Representative Lee to repeal provisions of Arkansas law pertaining to supplemental personal services required by a state agency. Ms. Webb, you're recognized to
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Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr. Unverified 33:04
explain the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Representative Kathy Webb Unverified 33:06
And as the clerk read, this is a bill that was sponsored by our colleague and my friend, Representative Lee. She did a tremendous amount of work on personnel committee. As we know, or as most of us know, there are a variety of supplemental personnel pools, and we don't need all of them. And I'm happy to tell you that I'm standing here in support of
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Speaker 37 33:30
this bill by Representative Lee, and I would appreciate a good
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Speaker 27 33:35
vote. Members, there's an explanation of the
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Chair Unverified 33:38
bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill, before the bill? Now I have a question for the House. Passes House Bill 1826. Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. Everyone voted. Everyone voted. Cast up the ballot by a vote of 97. Yay, 0, nay, 0, present. You've passed the bill. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 1226. House Bill 1226 by Joint Budget Committee, an act for the State Insurance Department of Appropriation for the 2011-2012 fiscal year. Representative Webb, you're recognized to explain the bill. Thank
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Representative Kathy Webb Unverified 34:21
you, Mr. Speaker. I believe I've explained this bill, and I'd appreciate a good
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Chair Unverified 34:26
vote. Members, you've heard an explanation of the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill? For the bill, if not, the question for the House passes House Bill 1226. Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. Voting on the bill and the emergency clause. Everyone voted. Everyone voted. Catch up the ballot by a vote of 83 yea, 7 nay, 2 present. You have passed the bill and the emergency clause. Mr. Clerk, if you will transmit those House bills immediately to the Senate, and if you will read Senate Bill 297. Senate Bill 297 by Senator Teague, an act for the Arkansas Geographic Information Office, statewide parcel mapping grant appropriation for the 2011-2012 fiscal year. Representative Webb, you're recognized to explain the bill. Thank
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Representative Kathy Webb Unverified 35:29
you, Mr. Speaker. This is a parcel mapping grant proposal, and I'd appreciate a good vote. Members,
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Chair Unverified 35:36
there's an explanation to the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill, for the bill, not the question for the House, passage of Senate Bill 297, prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. you're voting on the bill and the emergency clause everyone voted cast up the ballot by a vote of 93 a 0 nays 0 present pass the bill in the
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Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr. Unverified 36:02
emergency clause mr clark reads senate bill
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677 senate bill 677 by senator baker to fully finance the expenditures and obligations of the state central services fund and to declare an emergency. Representative Webb, you're recognized to
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Representative Kathy Webb Unverified 36:22
explain the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the concerns that Senator Baker and I have had as budget co-chairs and that a number of you have expressed as well is the funding for state central services. And working together, we came up with this that would trigger cuts if the money is not coming in, the general revenue is not coming in as we expect it for this year. It has a sunset provision on it, and it will expire at the end of this fiscal year. And we have taken measures in the bills that we have already passed to limit state central services growth.
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Chair Unverified 36:57
Thank you. Members, I have an explanation of the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill or the bill? If not, the question for the House, passage of Senate Bill 677, prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. I'm voting on the bill and the emergency clause. Everyone voted? Everyone voted. Cast up the ballot by a vote of 93 yeas, 0 nays, 0 present. You have passed the bill and the emergency clause. All right, members, we're going to go back to the red calendar, And we're going to take up, before we go to the Senate bills, we're going to take up House Bill 2138 that was passed over previously.
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Representative Fred Allen Unverified 37:49
Representative Allen, what purpose? Mr. Speaker, I would like to request that we place this bill in interim study after a discussion with all interested parties. and we come to the conclusion that it's in the best
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Chair Unverified 38:10
interest to place it in interim study. Your motion would be that we remove this from the calendar and withdraw it from further consideration places and recommend that it go into interim study.
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Speaker 46 38:29
What committee have you recommended this go into? Uh,
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Representative Fred Allen Unverified 38:40
who said revenue and tax? No, my public
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Chair Unverified 38:48
health, insurance and commerce. Okay, without objection, House Bill 2138 will be withdrawn from the calendar for other consideration and sent to interim study with the Insurance and Commerce Committee. All right, members, going to the Senate calendar. Mr. Clark reads Senate Bill 339. Senate Bill 339 by Senator Crumbly to establish the Regional Educational Career Alternative School System for Adjudicated Youth. Representative Williams, you are recognized to explain the bill. Thank
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Representative Darrin Williams Unverified 39:24
you, Mr. Speaker. Members, Senate Bill 339 creates an intergovernmental agency commission or task force made up of the Commission of Education, the directors of the Department of Career Education, Higher Education, Workforce Services, and Human Services. This commission will work toward the study and opening of a regional career alternative school for adjudicated youth. This bill seeks to recognize that it's much better to educate juvenile delinquents than to try to prevent them from becoming citizens of our Department of Correction. This bill seeks to break the cycle of a young person getting in trouble, getting involved in the juvenile justice system, and then becoming a member of the Department of Corrections. Similar to our crime bill for adults, this bill will allow our juvenile judges to send juvenile delinquents to alternative form of sentencing, hopefully to better educate and rehabilitate them as opposed to making them become citizens of our Department of Corrections. Senator Crumbly is in the back of the room making sure that I do a good job. He would truly appreciate a good vote, and I would as well. Thank
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Chair Unverified 40:30
you very much. Members, heard an explanation of the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill, for the bill? Not the question for the House. Passes to Senate Bill 339.
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Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. Everyone voted. Has everyone
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voted? Cast up the ballot by a vote of 84 yea, one nay. 0 present, you have passed the bill. Mr. Clark, read Senate Bill 833. Senate Bill 833 by Senator Dismang, an act repealing the Lead-Based Paint Hazard Act of 1997 and creating the Arkansas Lead-Based Paint Act of 2011. Representative Tyler, you're recognized to explain the bill. Thank
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Representative Linda S. Tyler Unverified 41:21
you, Mr. Speaker. Members, what this does is it moves the responsibility for the Lead-Based Paint Act from the Department of Environmental Quality over to the Department of Health. We have had some competing responsibilities with those two agencies. This moves it all into one agency where we have complete understanding and complete accountability and responsibility for the law. It's a good government bill, and it also makes us eligible for some additional grants, federal grants that we wouldn't be eligible for otherwise. I would appreciate a good vote, and I'd take any questions. Members, heard an explanation of the
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Chair Unverified 42:03
bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill? For the bill, not the question for the House. Passes to Senate Bill 833. Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. everyone voted everyone voted cast at the ballot by a vote of 88 a zero nays zero present you have passed the bill and the emergency clause mr clerk reads senate bill 256 senate bill 256 by senator madison an act to make various corrections to title 26 of the arkansas code of 1987 concerning taxation. Representative Williams, you're recognized to explain the bill.
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Representative Darrin Williams Unverified 42:43
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members, this is another code revision bill. It amends Title 26 of the tax code. I want to thank my good friend, Representative David Carter, whose birthday is today, for handling this for me in revenue and tax. This bill removes obsolete language from the code, corrects a reference, amends other sections to clarify the application, and makes stylistic changes to the code. I would appreciate a good vote. Thank you. Members heard an explanation of
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Chair Unverified 43:10
the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill, for the bill, not the question for the House, passage Senate Bill 256. Bear the machine, Mr. Clerk. Everyone, you're voting on the bill and the emergency clause. Everyone voted. Everyone voted. Cast up the ballot by a vote of 89 yeas, 0 nays, 0 present, you pass the bill and the emergency clause. Mr. Clark, read Senate
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Speaker 36 44:03
Bill 256. Excuse me, how about Senate Bill 516, multitasking again, never works.
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Senate Bill 516 by Senator Johnson to grant the authority for the establishment of energy improvement districts that will fund loans for energy efficiency improvements and clean renewable energy projects. Representative Letting, you're recognized to explain
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Representative Greg Leding Unverified 44:23
the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Colleagues, Senate Bill 516 by Senator Johnson is the result of a year-long discussion in the Sustainable Building Design Task Force. Basically, all it's doing is permissive legislation. It would allow a county or a municipality to voluntarily use their authority to issue bonds, PACE bonds. PACE stands for Property Assessed Clean Energy. Homeowners could then voluntarily, if they choose, access these funds to make energy investments in their homes, and they would pay the loan back through an increase in their property tax. The Bankers Association is neutral on this bill. The Assessors Association is neutral. Municipal League supports this bill. The Arkansas Association of Counties is also neutral on this bill. Again, it is voluntary, it is completely revenue-neutral, and it will lead to job creation in our state. And I'll try to answer a question or two.
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Representative Diddy, I don't know what purpose. Yes. Representative
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Letting, have you discussed this with the banking industry here in the state of Arkansas and got their filling? Yes, yesterday we talked to
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Representative Greg Leding Unverified 45:25
people at the Bankers Association, and they signed off on this bill as being unopposed. What about the
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Speaker 93 45:30
assessors across the state? We also met with
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Representative Greg Leding Unverified 45:33
the Assessors' Association yesterday, and they also signed off on this bill. Thank
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Speaker 58 45:38
you. Representative English, what purpose? A question.
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Representative Jane English Unverified 45:43
I can ask. The Assessors were neutral, or they just signed off? They were neutral. And the Association of Arkansas Counties was just neutral? They were neutral. I guess I'm, so how are they going to, they're just going to do a revenue bond, the city or the county, or
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Representative Greg Leding Unverified 46:01
this improvement district? Yes, the improvement district, if the municipality chooses to create this improvement district, that authority would
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Representative Jane English Unverified 46:07
be the one issuing the bond. And then, so the individual's property taxes would be raised to pay for this, or everybody in the county, did they get to vote on this?
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Representative Greg Leding Unverified 46:15
Just the homeowners that choose to access their funds, only their property tax would be assessed the additional money to pay back the loan. And
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Representative Jane English Unverified 46:24
so that's those, the increased property taxes are going to pay back the loan? Yes, just for
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Representative Greg Leding Unverified 46:29
the homeowners that voluntarily choose to do this. If you don't want to get involved, it has no effect on you
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Representative Jane English Unverified 46:36
whatsoever. Is this going to be nationally, I mean, advertised all over for folks? We're
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Representative Greg Leding Unverified 46:42
sure that will be communicated to homeowners across the state. Twenty-three other states since 2007 have passed similar legislation,
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Speaker 27 46:48
including our neighbors Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, and Louisiana. Thank you. I'd appreciate a good vote. Thanks. Members,
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Chair Unverified 47:00
heard an explanation of the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill? Representative Barnett, if you're recognized, come
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 47:12
and speak against the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We're getting down to the last minutes, the last hours, the last days. And we need to be careful here that we don't pass out any bad legislation. I voted for a bill yesterday that I wish I could take back, and I was tired. It was 7-something in the evening, and I just messed up. I remember last session, we had a couple bad bills that came through at the last minute. This bill, in principle, has a lot of great ideas. We're all for energy efficiency. We would like to help these people, and most of this bill is good. Here's the problem. The problem is that we're putting the county assessors and the county collectors in the business of increasing property taxes for these individuals. What's next? Are we going to do home improvements and are we going to assess ourselves property tax increases with home improvements? Why can't the private sector handle this? If government needs to get involved in these type of loans, then it needs to be a quasi-government type relationship, maybe like AFTA. AFTA is set up for things just like this. So we're walking on the ground here that's going to be brand new precedent, and we're basically asking for our property taxes to go up. What property assessor comes out, sees an improvement, and maybe you made an improvement next door, but you paid cash for yours. You like that word cash. Or you got a private sector loan. Now they're going to come over, and they're going to also assess you at a greater rate, and you're asking the assessor to come out and assess you for more taxes. And what if you don't like their new assessment? What if they assess you even more than what you're borrowing? And then the county collector is going to be responsible for collecting this tax? We're not set up for this in this state. This is not something that the assessors and the collectors are set up to do. And then I want to read you one line on page 8. It says, if the property is sold, the lien will stay attached to the property and the loan created under this chapter will be owed by the new property owner. Folks, we're on uncharted territory here. This is new stuff. This needs to go to interim study. We need to have a lot of people involved in this. AFTA needs to be involved in this. Even though 90% of this bill is very good and very positive, 10% of it really makes it a bad bill. and I would encourage you to vote against this bill. Mr. Rice, what purpose? Question. You're recognized for
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Speaker 111 49:57
a question. Representative Barnett, this was in committee yesterday. I think it fell the first time. It got brought back late yesterday. I believe there was some discussion that concerned that a bill like this could go from one step to another step in time, like we see many things happening that gets more involved than people want it to be,
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would you say that's possible? That's true. There were a lot of questions. This actually failed in insurance and commerce originally, and then it came back. I appreciate your comment on interim study, and would you think that would be a good thing to do?
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 50:36
It would be wonderful, and I would appreciate also if there was a certain individual room that had previous county government experience to also speak
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 50:47
against this bill. Thank you very much. Rep. Barnett has spoken against the bill. Is there anyone who would like to speak for the bill? Against the bill? Mr. Letting, would you like to close for your bill? You're recognized. Speak for it. You're recognized.
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Representative Jon Woods Unverified 51:14
This is, I've ran more bills in my legislative career that have gone through city, county, local than any other committee, and this one was assigned to Insurance and Commerce, and I wasn't in committee to vote on it the first time, or it would have passed without any problems, just we didn't have enough members that were there in committee. I totally respect what Representative Barnett had to say, but we passed the Carbon Storage Act. Come on. This is a local option. This is up to a municipality. The people of the municipality aren't being forced to have to do this. They can make up their own mind. This is just one more tool that we're putting in the toolbox. If the city council or the quorum court or the mayor doesn't want it, I doubt it's going to get any traction. But at least we're putting it in the toolbox. I do think it's a good bill. I appreciate you for running it. Thank you.
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 52:13
Representative Woods has spoken for the bill. Is there someone who would like to speak against the bill? If not, Mr. Lennon, would you like to
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Representative Greg Leding Unverified 52:27
close? Thank you, Madam Speaker. I just want to once again stress that this is completely voluntary. Any municipality or county that does not want to participate doesn't have to. If your city is participating and your neighbor has chosen to participate in this program and you have not chosen, your property taxes will not go up at all. It will only affect those who voluntarily choose to participate in the program. It is a job creation bill. It is revenue neutral, and I'd appreciate a good vote. Thank you,
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 52:54
and so would Senator Johnson. He's closed for the bill. The question for the House is Senate Bill 516. Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. Has everyone voted? Has everyone voted? Passed up the ballot, Mr. Clerk. By a vote of 33 yeas, 54 nays, 0 present, it has failed. Mr. Meeks moves clincher. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. No. The no's have it. Five hands. See five hands. Mr. Clerk, prepare the machine for the clincher. The vote is on the clincher. Has everyone voted? Has everyone voted? Pass up the ballot, Mr. Clerk. By a vote of 46 yays, 41 nays, 0 present, the clincher has failed.
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Chair Unverified 54:20
Read Senate Bill 930, Mr. Clerk. Senate Bill 930 by Senator Irwin and Thompson to allow global positioning devices on certain state-owned vehicles and to allow
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Speaker 135 54:34
record keeping regarding travel in certain
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Representative David J. Sanders Unverified 54:37
state-owned vehicles. You're recognized, Mr. Sanders. Thank you, members. I just fly in from Senate Education. They're meeting and a lot of our colleagues are down there presenting bills. Senator Baker told me to slow down. I thought fast. Okay, this bill is permissive language that will allow state agencies who have vehicles with GPS to gather data from that GPS for a myriad of reasons. They can do it for safety reasons. They can do it for fleet management. They can do it for tracking. So, and I know we've had some controversy in terms of, you know, what's going on with state vehicles and the actual number. But this is, again, this is permissive language. It doesn't cost any money. But it simply gives state agencies who want to do this the opportunity to do it. It's a compromise bill that was worked on with the Department of Correction. It was also worked on with state police, and I'd certainly be willing to take any questions if you have any.
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 55:37
For what purpose, Representative Blink? You're recognized for
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Speaker 139 55:44
a question. It's permissive language, Representative Sanders. Do you have any idea what would the cost be if
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Representative David J. Sanders Unverified 55:51
implemented? I do not, and that's one of the things. This is to allow, there are state agencies who currently have GPS devices on some of their cars. This would allow them the ability to begin to track that. There's certainly no mandate whatsoever, but it would simply allow them. And again, DF&A looked at this. I think this is the reason why it was agreed to.
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 56:16
Permissive language, there is no cost. For what
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Representative Larry Cowling Unverified 56:25
purpose, Representative Rogers? Mr. Cowling, for what purpose? question
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Representative David J. Sanders Unverified 56:28
you're recognized you don't have any idea what the cost of this would be again this this bill simply is permissive language that will allow state agencies to collect gather and retain the data on cars that have gps devices there is no mandate that any cars have gps devices and therefore dfna said there is no cost there's no revenue impact to the state of arkansas Wouldn't it be just
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Representative Larry Cowling Unverified 56:49
about as simple to put another employee in there with them and let them ride around, and we could call that device a tattle-tale? The representative may have a point. Mr. McClain,
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Representative James McLean Unverified 57:07
what purpose? Question, Madam Speaker. You're recognized. Well, if it's permissive and, you know, they're not under any obligation to do it, then why are we even doing it? Because there are actually, that's a
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Representative David J. Sanders Unverified 57:22
good question, And I hope you're able to get your bill out of education. It's permissive and it's allowable because there are state agencies who actually want this and have requested this. And again,
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Representative James McLean Unverified 57:33
there's no mandate that they do it. It seems to me that the mandate is what we're looking for. We're looking to compel these folks to get some data and how to see this as toothless legislation. But I appreciate you bringing it forth. anyway. Thank you,
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 57:50
Madam Speaker. What purpose, Representative Rogers? Question? You're recognized. Thank you, Madam
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Representative Tiffany Rogers Unverified 57:54
Speaker. So the state agencies that have made the request to implement this or to use it, do they currently have the GPS devices in their vehicles or would they have to be purchased?
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Representative David J. Sanders Unverified 58:06
It is my understanding that there are certain state agencies that do have this.
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Representative Tiffany Rogers Unverified 58:12
I'm asking about the ones who've made the specific request.
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Representative David J. Sanders Unverified 58:17
I don't know the answer to that question. I know state police worked on this, and I know they do have GPS in some of their cars. I know Department of Correction has made the request, and there is interest in putting this in some of their vans that take prisoners' work, crews' work details. I think what they want to do, this is not unlike what's happening today in fleet management. In terms of any state agency that has requested this, that would have to go out and buy a GPS, I am not aware of any, Representative Rogers.
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 58:49
Thank you. For what purpose, Representative Hyde? You're recognized.
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Representative Barry Hyde Unverified 58:54
Representative Sanders, so you haven't done any cost, there's not any cost impact that you've done or calculated? You're not sure who's going to do it, who's not going
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Representative David J. Sanders Unverified 59:06
to do it, or anything else? And what we know is because of the permissive language in the bill that DF&A looked at this and said that there would not be a cost. There are, in fact, some state agencies that do, in fact, have GPS in their vehicles. This would allow them to begin to gather, collect, and retain that data for purposes of safety or for purposes of fleet management. Wouldn't you agree in these
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Representative Barry Hyde Unverified 59:29
economic times that if they've got enough money to put a GPS in a vehicle and work on all that tracking, other than for security purposes, then they need to turn it back? I think knowing exactly what
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Representative David J. Sanders Unverified 59:42
our state fleets are doing and to have this ability to do it could potentially save a lot of money for the taxpayers. I'd appreciate a good vote.
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 59:52
He's left the well. You've heard an explanation of the bill. is there anyone who would like to speak against the bill representative elliott you're recognized to speak
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against the bill thank you madam speaker colleagues we discussed this in committee um i would
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Representative Efrem Elliott Unverified 1:00:17
like to to believe that the gps theory is going to come down and drop all kind of gps systems for our state vehicles but I don't think it's going to happen. The money is going to come from somewhere. We've just passed several budgets out, and we always talk about being physical responsible. Now, if they're asking for GPS systems in their vehicles, somebody's going to have to have a GPS system. And then if they already have GPS systems, how did they get them? Are they spending state money on it or what? There's going to be a cost effect on this, and we don't know what. So I'm asking us not to vote for it. Thank you.
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Representative Elliott has spoken against the bill. Is there someone who would like to speak for the bill? You're recognized, Representative Hammer. Go ahead. Thank you, sir.
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Representative Kim Hammer Unverified 1:01:28
Thanks for running block for me there, brother. In the words of infamous Mr. Gaskill, early on in the session, I will always remember, I don't feel good today. Don't screw with me if you all remember that, the day you got up. I'll tell you why I'm going to vote for this bill. On the words of what I just heard from the one who presented it, it is not going to cost us any additional money. When I worked for M's Ambulance Service in Little Rock here as a medic, we had GPS systems on our units. Now, understand that sometimes we interpret where we are as one thing, but numbers and positioning devices don't lie. And that will help us determine in an unbiased and without any kind of a prejudice or a vendetta exactly how many miles are being put on these vehicles and where they are. This is not on the basis of the presenter. This is not adding any additional money. We just passed a big budget that raised $86 million. dollars, surely if we can save money by making sure that these cars are where they're supposed to be, it would be a good return on our money. Thank you. For what he has spoken
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 1:02:53
against the bill. For the bill, I'm sorry. Anyone want to speak against it? Anyone for it? Representative Wilkins, you're recognized.
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Representative Butch Wilkins Unverified 1:03:07
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Members, I come from an agency that had several hundred vehicles and had several hundred GPS units at one time. I think that has been thinned down some, both the number of vehicles and the number of GPS. The GPS unit, the vehicle has a lot of, you could say a lot of good things about it, and tracking is only one of them. It can be a safety issue for anyone that works in the country. In the country, I know, currently I know Game and Fish has them in all their enforcement divisions. If someone in the Department of Emergency Management also has them, and I'm sure there's other units, the state police have some. So what we're asking here is not for other vehicles to be equipped with them, but to get the most knowledge we can get out of them vehicles that are currently being used with a GPS system. It has nothing to do with additional financing that I can see. I've read the bill, don't believe it does. And there is a lot of information available on GPSs. To give you, for instance, I had a wreck one time. It was not my fault, but the tracking unit on my vehicle told everything, how fast I was going, exactly where I was at on the road, and it more or less proved that I was not at fault in the accident. There's a lot of information. If this is one way of obtaining that information, I would sure recommend that we pass this bill. Thank you. He has spoken
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for the bill. Is there anyone who would like to speak against the bill? You're recognized.
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Representative Jim Nickels Unverified 1:05:04
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I probably wouldn't have come down if I'd been able to get my questions answered. But I think they've been answered by several people coming up and saying, we are already doing this. Representative Wilkins, Game and Fish, they've got the GPSs, they've got the technology and all that. My only point here is, is this needed legislation? Do we have to be passing a law to tell somebody you may do something when agencies are already doing it? That's my only point. I don't see the necessity to just pass another law that gives them the authority that they already got. Thank you. He
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 1:05:51
has spoken against the bill. Is there anyone who would like to speak for the bill, against the bill? would you like to close for your bill
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representative sanders you're recognized thank you
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Representative David J. Sanders Unverified 1:06:05
members may be very clear in this and representative nichols raised some very good questions and i wish i'd answered his question this law allows them those agencies who currently have the gps in their car to keep records to record and to track they can't do that currently So they may, in fact, have the GPS system in their vehicles today, but according to the law that we are currently under, they're not able to retain those records. So I guess one could say is the GPS may give an indication of where a vehicle is, but there is no tracking ability. There's no ability to take data and to see, you know, are we using, are we having the best routes? Are we using the taxpayers' money wisely when it comes to state vehicles? So this will allow them to retain and keep that information, and I would appreciate a good vote. It's a good bill.
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 1:06:56
Mr. Sanders has closed for his bill. The question before the House is the passage of Senate Bill 930. Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. Has everyone voted? Has everyone voted? Cast up the ballot, Mr. Clark. A vote of 60 yay, 23 nay, one present. You have passed your bill. Mr. Clark, read Senate bill. Mr. Sanders moves clincher. All in favor of clincher, say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. No. No. Clincher is adopted. Mr. Clerk, read Senate Bill
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Chair Unverified 1:07:55
328. Senate Bill 328 by Senator Malone and all, an act to ensure that each woman who gives birth in a medical facility receives educational materials described in shaken baby
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 1:08:05
syndrome before the woman is discharged. You're recognized,
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Representative Tracy Pennartz Unverified 1:08:10
Representative Penartz. Thank you, Madam Speaker. House colleagues, really the title tells what this bill does. This is a piece of information that will go into a packet of educational materials that is already given to women who have babies in hospitals or freestanding birthing clinics. The information will be developed by the Department of Health. I appreciate a good vote. You have heard an explanation of the bill.
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 1:08:35
Is there anyone who would like to speak against the bill, for the bill? If not,
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Speaker 166 1:08:42
the question before the House is Senate Bill 328. Cast up the machine, Mr. Clerk.
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 1:08:56
Has everyone voted? Cast up the ballot, Mr. Clerk. By a vote of 86 yays, 0 nays, 0 present, you have passed your bill. Mr. Clerk, read Senate Bill 759. Senate Bill 759 by
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Chair Unverified 1:09:13
Senator Malone, an act to amend the informal dispute resolution process for long-term care facilities and for other purposes. Representative Clark,
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Speaker 166 1:09:23
you're recognized. Thank you, Madam Speaker.
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Representative Tracy Pennartz Unverified 1:09:29
This bill basically makes a few changes, one of which is an update name change. Some of you may not remember when our Department of Health and Human Services is now the Department of Health. So there's a name change in there. There's also an inclusion of a definition of what an impartial decision maker is. There's some additional things that clarify the appeals process for a long-term care facility when they come and present their argument against the department. So I ask for a good vote on
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 1:10:02
this. Thank you. You have heard an explanation of the bill. Is there anyone who would like to speak against the bill, for the bill? If not, the question before the House is the passage of Senate Bill 759. Prepare
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Speaker 148 1:10:19
the machine, Mr. Clerk. Has everyone voted? Has everyone
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voted? Cast up the ballot, Mr. Clerk. By a vote of 89 yea, 0 nay, 0 present, you have passed your bill. Mr. Clerk, read Senate Bill 791. 718, sorry about that. Senate Bill 791
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Chair Unverified 1:10:48
by Senator Malone, an act to extend operations of the Arkansas Legislative Task Force on abuse and elective children and on sickle cell disease.
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 1:11:01
Correction, it is 791. Senate Bill 791. You're recognized, Representative Pernartz. Thank
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Representative Tracy Pennartz Unverified 1:11:12
you, Madam Speaker. This is a bill that actually just extends the legislative task force on abused and neglected children to 2013, June 30. Also, the sickle cell disease task force until 2013. They still have some work to do, and we ask that that be done. Also, this makes plain that all of these meetings will be held here in Pulaski County in Little Rock, so it's not to, it's the most
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central location. Representative English, for what purpose? You're
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Representative Jane English Unverified 1:11:50
recognized. Thank you, Madam Chairman, or Speaker. Representative Pinard, has there already been a lot of work? Do you have any results from the past two years from the task
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Representative Tracy Pennartz Unverified 1:12:03
force? Yes, that's a good question, Representative English. The Sickle Cell Task Force was the task force that recommended that we have the adult sickle cell clinic at University of Arkansas Medical Sciences Campus. In addition, there's additional work to be done in the area of prevention and information that they'd like to proceed. The task force on abused and neglected children, I've been attending that one for four years now, and that has been a great source for recommendations about legislation that go to the former committee I served on, which is is aging children and youth. So these have been a very productive task force, both of them, and I'm very proud to have served on one of them. Thank you. Thank you.
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 1:12:56
You have heard an explanation of the bill. The question, does anyone want to speak against the bill, for the bill? If not, the question before the House is Senate Bill 791. Prepare machine, Mr. Clark. Has everyone voted? Has everyone voted? Cast up the ballot, Mr. Clark. By a vote of 80 yeas, 0 nays, 1 present, you have passed your bill. Mr. Clark, read Senate Bill 718. Senate Bill 718 by Senator
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Chair Unverified 1:13:31
Madison to clarify the light transmission levels for window tinting on chauffeur-driven sedans you're recognized representative barney thank you madam chairperson madam
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 1:13:42
speaker representative letting this would be a good one to get even with me on the only the only problem with it is it's your state senator's bill and it affects fedville where you're from so it might be difficult for you i sure am sorry but uh And this bill, actually, some limo services, especially in the Fayetteville area, are having problems. They've been transporting celebrities, and unfortunately, the window tanning has not been dark enough, and you can see through, and you can see the celebrities, and it's been a great concern to a lot of the limo services up there. And even though I really wanted to wear my cap and my glasses to date as a chauffeur, prompts are not allowed in the well, so I decided not to do that. But this is apparently some of the limo services have been stopped with celebrities and have been written citations. So they've asked for the windows, and you can see just a slight darker window tinting in some of the back windows. so the celebrities cannot be seen and this is this is actually has been well vetted it the apparently the state police is okay with this and the Fedville Police Department is okay with this and representing letting I'm sure you're okay with it too and I appreciate a good vote thank you very
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 1:15:17
much for what purpose representative slinkered you're recognized
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Speaker 166 1:15:22
would that mean uh would i if i hired you as my driver are you considered a chauffeur and
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Representative Mary L. Slinkard Unverified 1:15:28
would that apply to my car no ma'am it would not i would
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 1:15:35
like for it to because i sure don't want anybody to know who we are going down the road but But that license plate that you have on the back of your car kind of gives it away. But anyhow, this is only for licensed automobiles for hire. And it's got to be chauffeur-driven. You've got to have a chauffeur. And if you ever get rid of this car, you sell it, you've got to remove the tinting. So it's only for this particular application.
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 1:16:06
For what purpose, Representative Wilkins? Please. Question.
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Speaker 196 1:16:10
You're recognized. Representative, can you name some of these celebrities that have been seen and spotted in Fayetteville?
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 1:16:22
You know, I had an answer for that. There were some, I think there were some out-of-state dignitaries, but I think that there were some members of this of this chamber and i believe that um tracy finart was actually caught with somebody in one of those and they saw her and i don't think they i don't think they they
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Speaker 196 1:16:45
wanted to darken the windows well let me let me ask you also uh representative barnett um do any of those celebrities currently come to pine bluff you know now that
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Speaker 199 1:16:57
they're in the fourth district they're They're coming to the city near you.
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 1:17:10
Representative Colin Smith, for what purpose? Question. You're recognized. Representative, will this hurt the sightings of Elvis
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Speaker 200 1:17:16
in northwest Arkansas? Elvis has been with us for
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Speaker 201 1:17:23
quite some time. he still lives
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified 1:17:25
and resides in the 4th district in hell to Elvis. You have heard an explanation
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Speaker 166 1:17:33
of the bill. Is there anyone who would like to speak against the bill, for
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the bill? If not, the question for the House is the passage of Senate Bill 718. Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. Has everyone voted? it's everyone voted cast up the ballot mr. clerk by a vote of 63 yeas 19 nays and zero present you have passed your bill and he asked for clincher all in favor of clincher say aye
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Speaker 74 1:18:18
i think the nays have it the no's have it Mr.
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Speaker 81 1:18:34
Clerk, read Senate Bill 81 Senate Bill
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 1:18:39
81 by Senator Jeffress to improve the
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effectiveness of public school alternative learning environments You're recognized, Representative Cheatham
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Representative Eddie L. Cheatham Unverified 1:18:50
Thank you, Madam Chair This bill simply does what it says through the effectiveness of public school alternative learning environments. It's been vetted by all the proper agencies, the Superintendent Association, the public school administrators, Department of Ed, and they approved this bill. Thank you. You have heard an explanation of the bill. Is there anyone who
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified 1:19:11
would like to speak against the bill, for the bill? If not, the question for the House is the passage of Senate Bill 81. Cast up the machine, Mr. Clerk. Has everyone voted? We're voting on the bill in the emergency clause. Cast up the ballot, Mr. Clark. With a vote of 71 yeas, 11 nays, 1 present, you have passed your bill. Mr. Clark, read Senate Bill 81. Senate Bill
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Chair Unverified 1:19:59
790. Senate Bill 790 by Senator Malone to amend Section 5 of Act 590 of 2011 to authorize the Federal Savings Bank to serve as trustees of cemetery maintenance funds. Representative Cowling
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Representative Larry Cowling Unverified 1:20:15
is recognized to explain the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Colleagues, this was a bill that's following up on Senate Bill 598, which was signed into Act 590. After it got signed by the governor and come in, we found out that it left out three little words, and we had to go back and put these three words, and those three words are Federal Savings Bank. So I'd ask for a good
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Chair Unverified 1:20:42
vote on this. Thank you. There is an explanation of the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill, for the bill? If not, question for the House. Passage Senate Bill 790. Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. Everyone voted? Has everyone voted? Cast up the ballot by a vote of 84 yea, 0 nay, 1 present. You have passed the bill.
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Representative Efrem Elliott Unverified 1:21:09
Mr. Clerk reads Senate Bill 958.
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Chair Unverified 1:21:17
Senate Bill 958 by Senator Elliott, an act to create a cultural competence
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Representative Efrem Elliott Unverified 1:21:25
interim study. Representative Elliott, you're recognized to present the bill.
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Speaker 206 1:21:32
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members, Senate Bill 958 is a joint interest study bill. It's a collaborated effort between Senator Elliott and myself to create a cultural competency interest study to study diversity in our state. From 2000 to 2010, our state population increased by 9.1%, but the Hispanic and Latino population increased for more than 18% for that same period, which shows that our state are becoming more diverse each year. The Joint Entrance Study shall study and make recommendations on specific cultural competency training for state employees, included but not limited to health care providers, health care professionals, public policy decision makers, public service workers, and education professionals. This training will be given through CEUs, through electronic training, to continue education in various distant models, and through media to maximize the amount of expense and travel travel that any employee may have to travel in order to receive this particular type training. We are asking that, you know, we get a good vote on this because we all know that we need to understand those persons who we may consider that are different than we are. So I really appreciate a good
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Chair Unverified 1:22:58
vote. Members heard an explanation of the bill. Anyone wishing to speak against the bill, for the bill, not the question for the House, is passing Senate Bill 958. Prepare the machine, Mr. Clerk. Everyone voted? Everyone voted? Cast up the ballot by a vote of 65 yay, 14 nay, and one present. You have passed the bill. Mr. Clerk, you have reports from committees. Read reports, please. We're going to read the committee reports while
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Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr. Unverified 1:23:37
we get the new calendar passed out. Mr. Speaker, we're at Committee on House Rules to whom was
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Chair Unverified 1:23:44
referred Senate Bill 811. Beg we to report you to have the same under consideration here at the return, the same with the recommendation that it do pass. Mr. Speaker, we're at Committee on Rules to whom was referred House Bill 1596, House Bill 1907 House Bill 2111 and House Bill 2135 big lead report we've had the same under consideration here to return the same with the recommendation that they do pass as amended respectfully submitted Keith Ingram, Chair Mr. Speaker, we are committee on judiciary to whom is referred Senate Bill 329 Senate Bill 679 Senate Bill 733 Senate Bill 762 Senate Bill 806 Senate Bill 318 Senate Bill 320, Senate Bill 247, and Senate Bill 863. I beg you to report we have the same under consideration and hearth to return the same with the recommendation that they do pass. Mr. Speaker, we are a committee on judiciary to whom it's referred. House Bill 1419, House Bill 1869, House Bill 2096, Senate Bill 707, Senate Bill 838, and House Bill 2198. I beg you to report we have the same under consideration and hearth to return the same with the recommendation that they do pass as amended, respectfully submitted. Darren Williams, Chair. Mr. Speaker, we are committee on city, county, local, to whom is referred House Bill 1545. They lead to report we've had the same under consideration here to return the same with the recommendation that it does pass as amended, respectfully submitted. Charlotte Wagner, Chair. Mr. Speaker, we are committee on public health, to whom is referred Senate Bill 213, Senate Bill 249, Senate Bill 525, Senate Bill 702, Senate Bill 835 Senate Bill 839 Senate Bill 638 We report we have the same under consideration here with the recommendation that they do pass respectfully submitted, Linda Tyler, Chair Mr. Speaker, we are committing on public health to whom is referred House Bill 1172 and House Bill 2056 We report we have the same under consideration here with the recommendation that they do pass as amended respectfully submitted, Linda Tyler, Chair Mr. Speaker, we are committing on state agencies to whom is referred Senate Bill 257 Senate Bill 258 and Senate Bill 886. Bigly report we have the same under consideration here with the return stand with the recommendation that they do pass. Mr. Speaker, we have a committee on state agencies to whom was referred House Bill 2074. Bigly report we have the same under consideration here with the return stand with the recommendation that they do pass as amended. Respectfully submitted. Clark Hall, Chair. Mr. Clark, read the bills. Thank you.
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Representative Bobby J. Pierce Unverified 1:27:21
Read the bill. Senate Bill 28. Without objection, read the second time. Senate Bill 28. On budget. Senate Bill 104. Without objection, read the second time. Senate Bill 104. On budget. Senate Bill 211. Without objection, read the second time. Senate Bill 211. I'm going to budget. Senate Bill 283.
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Speaker 7 1:28:04
Without objection, read the second time. Senate Bill 283. I'm going to budget. Senate Bill 343. Without objection, read the second time. Senate Bill 343. I'm going to be in tax.
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Representative Bobby J. Pierce Unverified 1:28:15
Senate Bill 620. Without objection, read the second time. Senate Bill 620. I'm going to budget. Senate Bill 641. Without objection, read second time. Senate Bill 641. Senate Bill 667. Without objection, read second time. Senate Bill 667. Calendar. Senate Bill 732. Without objection, read second time. Senate Bill 732. Go on budget. Senate Bill 752. Without objection, read second time. Senate Bill 752. Go on
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Chair Unverified 1:28:54
budget. Senate Bill 857. Without objection, read second time. Senate Bill 857. All right, members, we're getting ready to go back to the red calendar, supplemental calendar. Representative Reif moves that we place Senate Bill 707 back on second reading for a purpose of Amendment No. 2. Without objection, read Amendment No. 2. Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Amen. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Chair Unverified 1:37:18
Members, just to clarify where we are, we actually haven't gone into recess, but we are going to go into recess for 10 minutes. We had to load everything up on the supplemental calendar so it's not in machine. So we'll stand in recess here for 10 minutes, about 10 minutes until 4 o'clock.
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Agenda

Call to Order

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Budget Calendar

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SB805

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SB922

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HB1818

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HB1832

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HB1826

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HB1226

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SB297

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SB677

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SB339

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SB833

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SB256

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SB516

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SB930

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SB328

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SB759

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SB791

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SB718

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SB81

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SB790

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SB958

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Reading of Bills

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Representative Efrem Elliott Unverified
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Chair Unverified
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Representative Kathy Webb Unverified
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Representative Allen Kerr Unverified
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Representative Robert S. Moore, Jr. Unverified
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Representative Bryan B. King Unverified
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Speaker 50
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Representative Tracy Pennartz Unverified
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Representative Fred Allen Unverified
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Representative Darrin Williams Unverified
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Representative Linda S. Tyler Unverified
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Representative Greg Leding Unverified
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Speaker 58
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Representative Jane English Unverified
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Representative Jonathan Barnett Unverified
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Representative Toni Bradford Chair Unverified
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Representative Jon Woods Unverified
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Representative David J. Sanders Unverified
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Speaker 139
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Representative Larry Cowling Unverified
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Representative James McLean Unverified
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Representative Tiffany Rogers Unverified
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Representative Barry Hyde Unverified
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Representative Kim Hammer Unverified
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Representative Butch Wilkins Unverified
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Speaker 166
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Representative Jim Nickels Unverified
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Representative Mary L. Slinkard Unverified
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Speaker 196
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Speaker 199
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Speaker 200
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Speaker 201
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Representative Eddie L. Cheatham Unverified
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Speaker 206
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Representative Bobby J. Pierce Unverified
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