Senate Convenes

The Senate will now be called to order are there any request for leave at this time Senator Leding you're recognized. Madam secretary please call the roll. Boyd Bryant's Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis dis dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stones Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Thank you madam secretary and everyone and the gal in the chamber in the galleries would please rise for a prayer led by a friend of Senator Chesterfield who shall introduce and we'll follow that with the pledge of allegiance center Chesterfield record yes thank you madam chair is my honor to present to you my pastor the Reverend Cameron Mitchell senior pastor of the first missionary Baptist church of greater little rock to provide us with a prayer for today please welcome a Reverend Mitchell. Shall we bow. Eternal god how we are both grateful and thankful for another day of your goodness another opportunity to get a right today what we may have gotten wrong going yesterday I ask that you bring blessings upon each and every member of the General Assembly as they fulfill their duties to serve in their respective districts provide them with divine wisdom grace humility discernment and understanding as they seek to make Arkansas the best state in the nation we know that there are many in immense challenges that they face that they're faced with daily therefore we ask adopted you would simply review the lamp of liberty and power us all with principles of integrity the long suffering they represent the true was fashion of the government and compass us with the essence of justice and equality install and also lord and urgency of peace peace in our land peace in our homes peace in our minds peace in this chamber got it is I pray I did you a favor would be upon us all as we continue to serve the people the best way we know how it's in your name that we pray amen. One. It is. All. You're recognized thank you I would ask for leave for machine a little as she in which you stand sheen is here from Florida she's a native our cans and and a great friend we would ask that you grant her leave to be on the floor today. Thank you thanks under Chesterfield okay are we introducing our pages now just a moment okay okay. Ladies and gentlemen in the galleries welcome to your Arkansas state Senate. It is our expectation that each of you will exercise proper decorum and govern yourselves accordingly during today's proceedings without objection the rules will be suspended and a Senate bill dispenser the reading of the Journal of the morning hour has now begun are there any announcements or introductions at this time Senator Chesterfield you're recognized. Thank you madam chair it is my honor to introduce my page for today Cameron Mitchell the second. That uses that Cameron is fifteen years of age he's a tenth grader Cameron would you come forward. Comport he's a tenth grader at little rock Christian academy his extracurricular activities include football we're each plays both wide receiver and defensive back he runs the four by one hundred the two hundred meter and the four hundred meter he has participated three times in the junior Olympics his future goals is to win a gold medal he plans to go to college on a full ride the bill sports and academics ladies and gentleman welcome to the Senate Mr Cameron Mitchell. Thank you senator Chesterfield center Dotson you're recognized. Thank you madam chair I've got a couple of introductions here and I'm gonna start if I may with the nurse of the day misprint a who Q. it. if you would will will recognize her. And the reason going in this order is because our doctor of the day dougco Reeves is of internal medicine Centerton is her daughter is also page so I want to recognize our doctor of the day. First. And then her daughter grace if grace you would come down here will will recognize you next and Dockery's if you'd like to join or you're more than welcome to come down as well. So grace Reeves she is in ninth grade at Bentonville west high school is in bands marching band plays kept clarinets plays tennis this is has it the Spanish two years of Spanish create P. elder or create P. English and pre AP chemistry and once go into photography. Forensic. The following G.. At U. VA and obviously travel and study abroad is is a dream as well so if you would welcome grace and thank you for being here today. Thank you senator Dodson senator Hammer you're recognized. Thank you ma'am governor if I could get shall be in elections to come down here please will be my pages of the day while they're coming I'd like to manage your recognized in the VIP section for Senator Clark and myself also got to the Senator Ricky this is a slang county leadership group that is our VIP section visiting with us today and they'll be going down to the house of the minute but they decided to start on the better into the capital first and so if you would please recognize partially County leadership group up in our VIP section please. My pages today first March shall be done L. she is thirteen she's in the eighth grade at the Benton junior high she has for extra curricular activities and interest she is a softball player on the vertigo team and also a volleyball player for the E. V. A. league she plays on the volleyball team they're her plans are to go to college which is great it should not go to the university of Arkansas Fayetteville or to wash all Baptist university in Arkadelphia and she would like to become a physical therapist when she is older and whatever it is that we play our basketball game or Dodge ball game you can come and help heal us all up for starting after that game would you please first of all welcome it shall be done L. please. Second page of the day it is Alexis morning she is thirteen years old issues in the eighth grade she is a part of the issues at Benton junior high and also she is a and Senator Davis you might wanna listen issues a level seven junior Olympic jim knows and she participates with the river city gym gymnastics she also enjoys crocheting which I think is cool an arc and she plans to go to college one day it either Arkansas wash Hall BAM not not really or Stanford to become a labor and delivery nurse and she really likes traveling especially flying would you please give Alexis warm welcome today if. Thank you ma'am government. Thank you senator Hammer Senator Clark you're recognized. Thank you senator Hammer to introduce the slain County leadership group Senator crawl and I have the Hot Spring County leadership group on this side up in the nose bleed section if you all would welcome them to the. Thank you senator Clark center Petty you're recognized. Thank you madam president members I would like to request leave we have a couple of gas for my back home in Crawford County down here with the circuit clerk's association I have sure and blind bankers are circuit Clerk in her office manager Jennifer Riggs. I would like to request leave for those two ladies. Leave. Thank you any other announcements. Senator Gilmore. Thank you governor of members we have some assessors with this today I have my sister from Ashley County best rushing attacks leave for her to be on the floor. Thank you. Thanks enter any other announcements from center Chesterfield. You Medicare I would ask the need for revisions so that he may remain in the chamber. Thank you. Any other madam secretary or other items at the desk yes madam president will your committee on enrol Bills to whom was referred the following Senate bill one O. one by Senator Dotson Senate bill one sixteen by Senator hammer Senate bill one eighteen by Senator Dotson beg leave to report that we have carefully compared the enrolled copies with the original and find the same correctly enrolled and have at eight thirteen AM delivered them to the governor for approval respectfully submitted senator mark Johnson. Man resident we are committee on engrossed bills to whom was referred Senate bill one ninety by Senator Murdock report that we have carefully compared the engrossed copy with the original and find the same correctly engrossed. Ation we are committee on engrossed bills to whom was referred Senate bill one ninety nine by Senator Stubblefield report that we have carefully compared the engrossed copy with the original and find the same correctly engrossed. Judiciary we are a committee on engrossed bills to whom was referred Senate bill two O. six by Senator Penzo report that we have carefully compared the engrossed copy with the original and find the same correctly engrossed. Education we are committee on engrossed bills to whom was referred house bill twelve oh eight by representative down the report that we have carefully compared the engrossed copy with the original and find the same correctly engrossed Transportation madam president will your committee on City County and local affairs in a different house bill ten thirty one by representative fight recommend due pass counted we are committee on city county to whom was referred house bill eleven ninety six by representive Underwood recommend to pass. Calendar we are committee on city county to whom was referred house bill thirteen oh eight by representative fight recommend due pass counted. Madam president will your committee on insurance and commerce to whom was referred Senate bill two seventeen by Senator Boyd recommend due pass counted we are committee on state agencies and governmental affairs and referred Senate bill two fifty eight by Senator deas recommend to pass calendar we are a committee on state agencies to whom was referred Senate bill two fifty nine by Senator Wallace recommend to pass calendar we are committee on state agencies to whom was referred house bill eleven sixty three three by representative Bentley recommend due pass counted. Senate bill two seventy nine. By Senator Irvin Senator boy to amend the alternative to discipline act to broaden the alternative to discipline act to apply to non nurses regulated by the Arkansas state board of nursing Senate bill two seventy nine. Public health. Any further business to come before the body in the morning hour. If not morning hour has expired we will now start the business agenda. Eight one eight four amendment one amendment one to Senate bill one eighty four. Senator Blake. Johnson. We will come back to that. May we go to HB eleven sixty one amendment one. Senate bill one eighty six Amendment one Senate bill one eighty six amendment one. Senator Irvin. Senator Irvin you're recognized. Thank you members and my bill my amendment. Any questions. For center and anyone wish to speak against for for. Senator revenue which closed center has closed. All those in favor of the amendment signify by saying aye. Opposed. Is had amendment is adopted Senator gross amendment one to Senate bill one eighty four. My bill my amendment. Any questions for Senator Blake Johnson anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator has closed. All those in favor. Please signify by saying aye. Opposed. Amendment is adopted centering gross. Now H. B. eleven sixty one amendment one amendment one to House Bill eleven sixty one. Senator Tucker. Thank you madam president my bill my amendment appreciate a good vote. Thank you Senator Tucker any questions for the senator anyone wish to speak against a four. Senator has closed all those in favor signify by saying aye. Any opposed. Amendments adopted censuring grossi. H. B. eleven eighty five AM endment one Senator Clark amendment one to House Bill eleven eighty five. My bill representative Mayberry's amend or rescind Mayberry's bill represented by president. Richard good vote. Any questions anyone wish to speak against the bar for Senator has closed all those in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed. Amendments adopted into engrossing. S. B. one eighty five. Senate bill one eighty five by Senator B. Johnson to amend the appointment procedure for the tax appeals commission to provide for the filling of vacancies on the commission and to declare an emergency Senator Blake Johnson you're recognized members builders cleans up the tax appeals commission how they or appointed after Supreme Court ruling on the State Plant Board this this is the future process ultimate control of the governor. Any questions for Senator Blake Johnson. Anyone wish to speak against her for. Senator has closed. Any objection to rowing the boat. And secretary please relevant. Boyd Bryant's Caldwell Chesterfield Clark cruel Davis these Dismang Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stones Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator wish to change his or her vote. C. nine please cast at the ballot. By a vote of thirty forty eight zero nine. S. B. one eighty five any Emergency Clause pass please transmit to the House. S. B. one ninety eight. Senate bill one ninety eight by Senator Dismang to amend the frequency at which each county is required to appraise all real estate at its full fair market value Senator Dismang you're recognized members currently the way that the reassessment works it's either three or five that's at the discretion of the county creates a lot of confusion for both the taxpayer and the county so what is going to do is make it so that everybody is on a four year reappraisal cycle we staggered in the beginning between three and five and they go there is true grade eight equal number of counties in the state it's going to hit so we don't have a reappraisal it across the entire state at one time that's gonna allow for folks that do this type of work that to have the manpower needed to be able to finish the job but again it should be something is beneficial to both counties and to taxpayers alike. It take any questions any questions for Senator Dismang. Anyone wish to speak against her for. Senator you're pretty close. I am close center has closed. Is there any objection to rowing the boat. Man secretary please well that. Boyd Bryant's Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis vis dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson came Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stone Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator who wishes change his or her vote. Please cast a ballot. But thirty forty eight zero nine S. B. one ninety eight passes transmit to the House. And I would like to recognize the. Clerk's and assessor's two who are seated right about me in the VIP section section I'm sure they appreciate this bill thank you Senator Dismang let's give them recognition. B. two zero four Senate bill two O. four by Senator Wallace to amend the justice for vulnerable victims of sexual abuse act to remove the age limitation for vulnerable victim to bring a civil action and to amend the commencement date for a civil action Senator Wallace you're recognized thank you governor. Members this is a once in this change this makes a really good bill. A better bill when I read this bill two years ago. Studies have shown is that. Individuals who had been sexually abused. Really had a struggle talking about this until they were delays around the age of fifty five. So we picked the number of age fifty five. It was great law people really happy but afterwards we had individuals coming and saying Hey I'm a. Fifty eight age fifty nine what about me. So this bill changes it and to. But to to the that. But the when the being is. This is already in the law that they have. To fall. Six months after this bill goes becomes law it. To a period of thirty months so they're still with the. Of about forty twenty four months. But it just removes the age limit of fifty five it allows folks that were fifty seven fifty eight fifty nine or older the chance to seek justice one last time. And with that I'll stand by for your questions. Any questions for Senator Wallace. Anyone wish to speak against her for. Senator you're free to close close center has closed any objection to roll in the Secretary please relevant. Boyd Brian Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis DES dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stone Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator who wishes to change his or her vote. Scene nine please cast a ballot. By that at thirty four eighty eight and zero name bill passes please transmitted to the house. Now as the two one two Senate bill two one two by Senator Irvin to remove the requirement for notarization for requests for criminal background checks that are required for the licensing of child welfare agencies and to declare an emergency Senator Irvin you're recognized thank you madam governor and members before I present this bill I just want to have a shout out to a very good friend of mine who is a county official who's up in the V. I. P. gallery heather Stevens please stand up heather where are you know she's here somewhere. Heather and heather is one of the toughest ways you'll ever known in your entire life and she is one of our our county officials and anyway she's a chuckwagon racer and she's amazing so heather thank you for your work and number Senate bill two twelve add this bill removes the requirement for notarization for requests of criminal background checks that are required for the licensing of child welfare agencies since twenty twenty one DHS's implemented an electronic criminal code criminal background check process for employees of child care centers and Medicaid providers so this change has made the process faster and more efficient for employers which is why we are eliminating the requirement for a notarization the current law still requires one part of the process to be on paper and the law requires a notarized signature on paper from every background check applicants this paper based requirement creates unnecessary delay forcing the employees and employers to what additional days for the results of a background check said this bill repeals that requirement and allows us to be more efficient I'm using the electronic process which is going to get us through the process to get employers or employees in place faster. So this is a great deal to save time and money for our child care and facilities and Medicaid providers and their employees be happy to answer any questions. Anyone had questions for Senator Irvin. Anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator you're pretty close I'm close I appreciate a good vote thank you senator any objection to rolling that. Adam secretary please world about. Boyd Bryant's Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis dis dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stone Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator wish to change his or her vote. C. nine please cast a ballot. Right thirty forty eight zero may the bill as well as the emergency clause passed please transmit to the House. S. B. two one three Senate bill two thirteen by Senator Irvin to expand the availability of screened out reports of adult maltreatment or a long term care facility resident maltreatment Senator Irvin you're recognized. Thank you members this bill expands the availability for these screened out reports to be shared with a provider who employs a direct care worker and and any agency that licenses the worker it allows them to be notified after the screened out allegation of adult male treatments there is a process that is followed in order to and when an allegation of adult maltreatment is reported to the hotline that allegation can be screened out for a variety of reasons some of those right and we're not changing that and most common reason for screened out is that the behavior that was alleged does not meet the legal definition of mount treatments or that it occurred in another state so when those screened out allegations are are occurring that the agency as a law is now cannot share that screened out and report with the employer or the provider for the agencies so what this bill does is allows DHS to inform and employer that the allegation that the that was reported to the hotline has been screened out this allows the employer to take any final action they feel is necessary regarding not worker it also allows DHS to share a screen to allegation with the licensing board or agency and that's that's what the the bill does. I'll be happy to answer any questions any questions for Senator Irvin. Anyone wish to speak against four four. Senator you are free to close I appreciate a good vote thank you any objection to rowing the boat. Madam secretary please rowboat. Boyd Bryant's Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis vis dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stones Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator wish to change his or her vote. Senator Stubblefield is voting. President. Anyone else which changes or her vote C. nine please cast at the ballot. By a vote of thirty three eight zero nine and one president. Bill passes please transmit to the House. S. B. two three two. Senate bill two thirty two by Senator Clark to allow a student whose parent or legal guardian relocates him or her to a different school district to complete his or her remaining school years at the school district in which he or she is enrolled at the time of relocation. Senator Clark. S. B. two three two. Passed over. Now H. B. one zero one eight house bill ten eighteen by representative Meeks and Senator B. Johnson to allow members of the municipal fire department bomb squad to lawfully carry a weapon in certain circumstances. Senator Blake Johnson you're recognized. Members of the we amended out the rest of thirty that was of concern to the sheriff's association and there's some questions about the NRA and I spoke with them today the to read they were afraid that it was going to make a a classification that that everybody else can't enter and and be able to carry those weapons and this only allows at the time and on page two. line thirty three when they're acting in their duties so when you're in service otherwise they're they're just like everybody else we did this for EMTs and twenty twenty one. Any questions for Senator Blake Johnson center Payton you're recognized. Thank you for your records what is that prohibits them from carrying a bomb. The it is probably ultimately up to their the member on their commander is that these these folks can be deputized by the county sheriff not all county sheriff's want that. And this gives them that ability you carry that firearm into places where that even a concealed Kerry or enhance security couldn't carry but only during times of their in service for services will reaffirm their authorities have been on city absolutely when they're on duty and I need that protection. Thank you madam president. Any other questions. Anyone wish to speak against four four. Senator Blake. Senator love are you standing okay this one make sure we're good. Senator Blake Johnson you for closing Johnson has closed. Any objection to rowing a boat. Madam secretary please relevant. Boyd Bryant Caldwell Chesterfield Clark cruel Davis DES dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love McKee Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stone Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator who wishes to change his or her vote. C. nine please cast a ballot. By a vote of thirty four eighty eight zero nine. Ten eighteen passes please return to the House. H. B. ten seventy six house bill ten seventy six by representative Ladyman and senator Wallace to amend the licensing fee for septic tank cleaning licenses and to clarify licensing fees. Senator Wallace. You are recognized. Thank you governor. Members of the real simple bill. The cleanup clarifies a language that one vehicle is included in the annual permit a twenty five dollars there's been some questions about that the past owners of had to try to say well I the twenty five dollars covers both bills. So I clarifies that the owner is charged for each septic tank pumper vehicle. It's not increase the license fee. each owner has one license fee but if he has multiple vehicles that will pay twenty five dollars per vehicle. And just reformation there's approximately two hundred licensed septic tank cleaners in Arkansas. And with that I stand by for your questions. Any questions for senator Wallace. Anyone. I wish to speak against or for. Senator you are free to close on your clean up bill. Senator has closed. Any objection to rowing the boat. Madam secretary please roll the vote. Boyd Bryant Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis dis dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson Katie Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stone Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace any senator who wishes to change his or her vote. C. nine please cast a ballot. Right thirty forty eight zero name H. B. ten seventy six passes returned to the house. H. B. ten ninety one. House bill ten ninety one by representative Dalvin Senator Hickey to require that the passage of the GED test to be treated the same as the receipt of a high school diploma. You're taking you're recognized thank you madam governor members I'm almost embarrassed to stand out here to do this but what. We're merely doing here is defining that a G. D. as the quote of a high school diploma so I'll. If the answer any other questions for you all that didn't already think it was defined. Any questions for Senator Hickey. Senator Hammer you're recognized. I'm not trying to be I just thought that was already done or could you just explain shall we get asked questions why we're having to do this because I thought it was already equivalent to a high school diploma well. As the other five the five million people in Arkansas I think but the the reason that this come up just just to kind of give you an idea is there was somebody out there that was trying to pay me like a little small I think hourly wage for somebody had a high school diploma. And then they were paying just a small what are they were advertising like a lesser wage if you had a G. E. D. so that's kinda where this came from right there but in looking at the thing if you have a GED just kind of let you all know if you have a G. D. we allow you to apply for the Arkansas scholarship lottery the I even looked it up even the abbey the schools consider that an equivalent for you to to go to their at least I think Harvard and Yale did so. I have that's it that's the reason just wanna question only after that's fine if you don't you get me afterward when the bill passes but industry do you know in your conversation did did industry say thank you if you had a conversation with them at all that they view AG the different than a high school diploma in the industrial setting the did that come up in a conversation I had no Sir I've not not heard that I have not heard that at all okay thank you for your. Thank Senator Hammer any other questions for Senator Hickey. Anyone wish to speak against her for. Senator Hickey for closed closed. Centers closed any objections really the vote. And secretary please role that. Boyd Bryant Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis DES dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stones Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator who wishes to change his or her vote. C. nine please cast a ballot. By a vote of thirty forty eight zero nine. H. B. ten ninety one passes returned to the house H. B. eleven fifty six house bill eleven fifty six by representative Bentley and Senator Solomon concerning a public school district or open enrollment public charter school policy relating to a public school students sex. Senator Solomon you're recognized thank you governor folks just hit a couple of highlights on eleven fifty six a couple of questions that came up yesterday I'll try to answer in committee but I'll call your attention to Page one line thirty three shall ensure that the public school students attend an overnight trip if required to share sleeping quarters with a member of the same sex this issue actually came up in Arkansas schools this year the school board address that policy and change your policy to meet that requirement are about the requirement but this would codify that on page two line six public school restrooms designated based on sex line thirteen multi occupancy restrooms are changing areas includes without limitation the following so it lists those with the supplies of sex means the physical condition of being male or female based on genetics and physiology as on line nineteen and twenty on twenty three this came up in committee yesterday I will schools deal with this how will they know well every student when they enroll has an original birth certificate issued at or near the time of his or her birth so again schools would have the opportunity to not only do staff development and training in that area and their policy mentions that line thirty two to provide a reasonable accommodation to an individual who is unwilling or unable to use a multi occupancy restroom are changing area designated for that individual sex so has to be a provision for that in school policy. And I'll reference page for line eight a parent legal guardian or person standing in loco parentis of a public school student shall have a cause of action against the public school and that cause of action is listed below and then on line twenty six the Division of elementary and secondary education so promulgate rules to implement this section then the school administration will adjust their policies and staff development as appropriate I'll be glad to take any questions. Any questions for Senator Solomon. I see what you do I just wanna make sure we don't have one unintended consequences just whenever you pointed out. Messed up there we'll I don't well not no not necessarily no Sir And I think I think what you're trying to say on the phone the phone Page one line thirty three thirty four. That if there's multiple members there if there's you know that the members of the same sex we'll we'll share that room. But does the way that we wrote this require there to be two members of the same sex was to say that there was there was an event. Where. a young boy or young girl was going to have. Actually been accommodation in a room by their sale. We're not because of the way we've written this does that work why are there to be. Another member in there. It is solely about the way with the with the local law. What I would say no but I don't I can not maybe I'm just not understanding so if you have someone and single individual in a room. Well that that's what I'm saying the way we wrote it here it says that a public school student attending the overnight trip he is required to share sleeping quarters with a member of the same sex it's almost like we should have that if applicables for applicable and this or something along the lines there's no way you should say that a student has to do that if they're going to be in a single room by their sales. I think the line after that. For the public school student attending an overnight trip may share. Sleeping quarters with a member of the opposite sex it well yeah. I think it. I may I see your point but I I think the state would pay accommodations when the state department of education Promulgates their rules I think they'll clarify that I don't think this language doesn't. Well I the way I read it is is there what happens the one and and I think that's going to be at the interpretation again. I'll I'll write your bill I just think that we should have the have it right and I do not see that into you to you for that line out and I went to read it and maybe everybody else in your region to different way but I read it or I could read that they are actually required to have there has to be two boys are there has to be two girls in in that sleeping accommodation and I appreciate your diligence and pointing that out but I think I've breeder differently. Thank you. Senator Hester you're recognized. Senator Solomon I think in or get out I just I just wanna let you to clarify in and I think you might have a Is had to step out procedure for meaning that online Page four line five six and seven we're talking about a school teacher being found specifically to be non compliant a can you just. Can you just tell me what that means I just wanna make sure that the school teacher didn't know I think that's the concern that they didn't know or should have known the specifically non compliant means that they're basically being you know stiff necked about rather just not going to comply even though they they clearly have the. Are we gonna say well it's in a file in the principal's office and you should have known for. I mean can you just clarify that and I think that's going to come up to the school policy and I mentioned staff development so I think schools will develop department of education will develop the the guidance for the the issues you're describing and Senator Hickey is describing they'll develop that guidance and Yeah I think the incident we had in one of our state schools kind of pointed that out when they determine that that was the case and it was specific that the the person who made those decisions. New the judge the sex of the students and that was corrected just by saying this is where we're going to do it within of often do it state of the school board local school board making that decision well being a policy and that's for this policy came from but I think it's going to be up to the state board of education and the department of education to make those rules it agreed thank you bring this bill. Any other questions for Senator Solomon. Anyone wish to speak against Senator Leding you're recognized to speak against. Thank you Mr president I know it might not seem like it to the new members but I don't make a habit of coming down here I really only come down here to speak when I feel that it's absolutely necessary and I'm gonna ask you again today to think about who is going to help and who it's gonna hurt because once again we're being presented with legislation that claims it's going to protect kids when in reality it's going to put more kids in harm's way as acceptance of the trans community has grown in recent years we begin to see more attempts to control and limit their lives outside their homes we saw this a few years ago with the push to pass bathroom bills all across the country in the name of public safety and is those efforts failed to restrict out we begin to see a lot of conversations if the schools and we begin to see supporters of this legislation use kids more widely in order to win support I know everybody in here I said it last time I genuinely believe everybody in here wants to protect kids. and I know other people in here who also resent being accused of targeting the trans community because of their support for this legislation because they believe this legislation provides privacy and safety for everybody I know that's easy to believe that's been another shift in this fight to control and limit people's lives it's no longer about public safety it's about privacy and safety for everybody and that's in part because we know we have data that there is no link between trans inclusive policies and public safety there was a study twenty eighteen by the Williams institute at the UCLA school of law they love to communities all across the country that had similar characteristics they look at the ones that had transit because the policies those that do not and they found no link between the policies and crime there is no link and so now it's not about public safety it's about privacy and safety for everybody but it's still about trying to control and limit the lives of trans people outside their homes so who's going to help and who's going to hurt who is going to hurt or the kids are gonna have to walk in the restrooms and locker rooms that don't conform with their identity we're going to have boys walking into girls locker rooms girls walking the boys locker rooms it's going to be destructive and it is going to be dangerous there was a two thousand nineteen study at Harvard that looks at the trans kids all across the country and they found that twenty six percent of them had suffered some kind of twenty percent of kids in middle school and high school transcripts had suffered some kind of sexual abuse in the previous twelve months and in places where the laws like this in place that number jumped to thirty five percent that's an almost ten percent increase in sexual assault where these kinds of policies were in place. so this bill will put more kids at risk and not just from bowling in sexual assault suicide is now the second leading cause of death of kids in this country right behind firearms the LGBTQ community is a higher risk not because their orientation or identity because of bullying and stigmatisation and laws like these this bill will put more kids at risk I ask that you vote no or don't vote and you can truthfully tell people that you want more time to look at data talk to trans kids and their families to talk to students before you make a decision on this bill thank you. Anyone wish to speak for. Speak against a bill speak I've talked to my mentor Senator Hickey and I think I need to pull this down and make the amendment that he suggests I think that's a good idea so I'd like to pull the bill down at this time to make that change Senator Solomon has requested to pull bill down so the bill H. B. eleven fifty six is. Thank you senator. H. B. eleven fifty seven. House bill eleven fifty seven by representative Bentley and senator Dotson to require public school districts and open enrollment public charter schools to provide information to public school students regarding water safety education courses and swimming lessons. Dotson you're recognized thank you madam chair members just like the title says that is exactly what this bill does it would. So each year there are a lot of students and and kids that. we have some water safety accidents and deaths every year and so making sure that students know. Where there's a debatable swimming lessons whether where that wherever there's water safety courses available are in their area so that they can take advantage of this the school districts whether it's a a public school or open enrollment public charter school would be required to provide that information to parents if you look at the end of the bill if the student is above eighteen years of age up to twenty one years of age provided directly to the student so that they know where they can get something lessons and that sort of thing more than happy to try to answer any questions. A good vote for centre Dotson anyone wish to speak against her for. Senator has closed any objection to rowing the boat. And secretary please well that. Boyd Bryant Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis DES dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvin Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stone Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator wish to change his or her vote I see Senator Davis on this side boating present anyone on this side. Say no more please cast a ballot. By a vote of thirty three D. A. zero name and one president. H. B. eleven fifty seven passes please return to the House. H. B. eleven sixty six. House bill eleven sixty six by representative do you and senator Boyd to add an additional member to the Alzheimer's disease and dementia Advisory Council. Senator Boyd you're recognized. Thank you madam president in two thousand twenty one the General Assembly past ACT three ninety one which created the Alzheimer's and dementia Advisory Council during the last couple years that Advisory Council came together and came up with a a state plan is they're working through developing and updating the state plan they realize there were a couple Areas of expertise that were lacking one of them was in home care and the other was in assisted living so what this bill does is it adds to very important but uncompensated positions to this Advisory Council that said I'd be happy to try to answer any questions any questions for senator Boyd. Anyone wish to speak against her for. Senator has closed any objection to rolling about. Madam secretary please role that. Boyd Bryant's Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis DES dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stone Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace any senator wish to change his or her vote. C. nine please cast a ballot. But thirty forty eight zero nine. H. B. eleven sixty six passes please return to the House H. B. eleven eighty two house bill eleven eighty two by representative Vaught and senator hill to provide clarity regarding the certification of a veterinary technician specialist and to authorize a collaborative practice agreement between better and Aaron and a veterinary technician specialist Senator Hill you're recognized. Thank you madam governor it has been due to pay for that we have not had any votes we've been rolling everything so we're fixing to change that. With that being said the calling we have a bill in front of you senator vault and myself. Basically it's taking or veterinarian tech specialist the keyboard only users specialist is not just a bit take it's a special similar to a to a nurse practitioner these people some have a two year degree so I'm actually have a four year degree they have continuing education. Every every year and for them to be able to get to this position they must work for five years under someone's directly under someone so they're actually looking at seven to nine years experience as what these specialist help in so with that with that when you're looking at the bill it basically says that the main thing that this different is they will be able to establish. They contact the client relationship still be able to go out and do that heard some pretty compelling stories up in in committee today about a young lady graduate from Purdue University for four year degrees when the business now for fourteen years have to go out to make a call for new new client of theirs she is a staff writer ship and she could not work on the animal and the animal died because she didn't the veterinarian have not been out there first. Into it and had to step back in which a is not the. Not not in the realm of that type of work if you're if you're willing to help animals. Arkansas had the shortage of veterinarians. There's actually. Roughly according to money money business up four hundred twenty roughly vets in the State of Arkansas right now. And we're talking about currently we have a hundred and fifty seven bit text. We don't have the first one it is actually a specialist they will be taking the first two will be this this year start this program in twenty nineteen so it's seven works way through. We have to veterinarian schools that are coming on line hopefully here in the state pretty soon but we're looking at eighteen years after his release state of Arkansas is in in the state of emergency as far as in the permit Merriam's we need it if you look at the figures people don't realize this that we have we're looking at roughly. Every hundred twenty six miles in the state of Arkansas we have a veterinarian if you go from little rock to Memphis you have three. If you go from Hazen the Memphis you have one. This bill will actually help the poor areas of the state the economically challenged areas to get some veterinarian services in there this bill is not just for the veterinarians at which they are totally against or wherever they should like this because water down to meet their approval even the committee yesterday was changed and then they still spoke out against but this bill is not for them this bill is for the people of Arkansas for the animals of Arkansas this is the humane thing for us to do we can and should not have and was there in bad health because we have a lack of veterinarians like a service we have available. When you look at the number of it that a civil ago ever hundred twenty six miles if you take out Pulaski County in northwest Arkansas that number will grow drastically just call the number of bits in those areas. We have one million seven hundred thousand cattle in Arkansas. Roughly a hundred sixty eight thousand horses. A million ninety five thousand dollars. Roughly eight hundred ten thousand caps. And we have roughly four hundred twenty vets in the State. That is fourteen for every hundred thousand people. That was the reason why we should do this bill folks. There's a veterinarian shortage when a state of emergency in the state of Arkansas. We're under served in areas especially in East Arkansas and South Arkansas in southwest Arkansas. Even in central Arkansas for large animal vets we are under served this is a this is far mainly is for the large animal vets to give them some assistance and help. It's a great opportunity for consumers and for animals in the state of Arkansas to improve their health and well being. This also will allow veterinarian services to move into the twenty first century. Where they can actually utilize the availability of help these specialists are not going to be competition within they cannot hang a shingle in a veterinarians office in running for a they have to work directly under the veterinarian working with the they fall under his insurance policy they can have an insurance policy of their own if they choose with the box office of it and they work in collaboration with them this is not a competitor for the veterinarians this is a companion they work together with the consumer the veterans are so booked up. That they maybe a day or two after they can even see someone he can send this person out to the farm this person can't make the diagnosis then the but the veterinarian say this is what we're looking at this temperature I think we can do to do this or that to to for the betterment of the animal with that being said I'll take any questions from the for the body. Senator Hammer you're recognized. Senate bill could you Can you can the tax now. Under the direction of the that do what this bill is going to allow them to do. Under the collaborative practice agreement thank you for that cannot go out and establish a relationship now the electors they can do pretty much the same things. Same work right now what we have here. So they can administer whatever mad your narcotics or whatever whatever drugs can they administer those now or just going to open it up to where they can do it and if they can it still has to be under the direction of that that is correct is to have been a direction of the bat yes communicate with the veterinarian to do this G. R. E.. So I guess what I'm saying is that that's currently being done in this and and this is going to allow what is currently being done Jean need to be done except for under a collaborative agreement if I'm understanding right what's the objection from those who are opposed to this bill specifically that that's a very good question because everything they were speaking about a committee is in this bill. The things that they wanted because they cannot break federal law no matter what they do it all the veterinarian. Rules and regulations all in favor federal guidelines thank you thank you. Senator English. Yes I'm I only know of one that tech program here in the state that's it baby they don't have a lot of students so where are these that tax getting their training and how did they get license there are lots and in order for solving back up the you're correct there's only one school in Arkansas doing it right now that's a issue baby the issue doesn't the young lady was here with the state how do people get to be that tax here in the state or are they all come in from out of the state to be. Where they have the training and here in the state he in the state were trading may issue baby that's the only only one in the other was getting their degrees out of state all these people could it be that tax how many are we talking about. Shell is more than thirty that's about all they have their baby yeah that's that's all we have every week this program is new enough to start up let's that we started in twenty nineteen and so it's just continuing to grow or got a hundred fifty seven right now in the state. And fifty hundred yes and where did they come from either the either a issue B. B. or from out of state. Thank you. Now when we are too veterinarian schools I'm going to be speaking for them here I think they'll be offering this as well as those two schools. Senator Clark. Okay. Senator days did you have a question. Thank you I sincerely appreciate the effort of this bill. I believe it is trying to solve a problem that we we really do have which is a shortage of of the Arians and. And the time it takes to help farmers. However I I do feel like this is not the right solution to that problem. I'm so thankful for the Minnesota that were made that that was my biggest concern around prescription of the board the ex I think there still is a concern around the timing of establishing. For a bit of this establish a a client relationship and the fifteen days between there I think about a about a restaurant a food supply food chain that work is is there any concern help me with the concern of a potential misdiagnosis in the time of day and national relationship client relation this is that. Between that gap of fifteen days there's a can you help me with that concern of potential an outbreak or what the bad diagnosis from our food chain. As for the for the food chain goes the the state of Texas and the state of Oklahoma which have a lot more livestock than we do and a lot more directly. Now as far as the state of Arkansas goes is for the misdiagnosis you know yes that could happen I would assume that if it's been a misdiagnosis whoever the owner is of the livestock there will be back in touch with that veterinarian pretty fascinated my livestock not get any better I'm I need I need you out here. Senator. Yes. Just a quick question on page two and so this is that merry tech technicians special of five different than a veterinarian tax yes so can you so I'm Page two line thirty two through thirty five can you describe how many of that tax specialist do we have in Arkansas zero right now we have to be testing this year thanks to our testing as that tech's specials this year descrito this legislation is for those two individuals will be for the rest and coming up this is a start up so that we're just getting started is going to the cycle so so where does of that tax where to where how do they become a veterinarian technician specialist like at what institution or is that online or can you describe that process to become of that tax specialist a issue maybe has a program to sign up for their you have to be accepted into that so yes a issue may be the only one in the state of Arkansas and then the additional eight hours of advance continuing that. That is after you become a specialist that's after you become officials and that's that's just gonna be up to the Arkansas veterinary. Board that is correct. Okay thank thank urban center Payton you're recognized. Thank you madam president. So having said all health committee for several years a little familiar with some of these five things the collaborative agreements and stuff Also the health committee they required in a home study for things like this so that you can get a little more in depth knowledge. You have any concerns. About this discouraging. Students from going the extra mile and becoming a veterinarian that was shorter track the basically doing the same thing And operating under a collaborative agreement we could exacerbate the problem we have a shortage of that area and based on the feedback I'm getting from the areas who don't like this bill. The same five to be a discouragement to The students or young people who are pursuing a profession as a veterinarian if they can. For the process and then just do a collaborative agreement. Hey somebody an access fee to the manager you have any concerns along those lines or no sure sure don't into a distillery on that little bit more I have two hundred cattle. Six performance horses. Four dogs a cat and a rabbit. And so I've got experience in this enough and I I see that we need this especially in a large animal field I have as far as. Discouraging someone from being a veterinarian no I don't think I think this feels a void for those who don't want to go to school there's a long. Those people who want to work out in the field go out and do an essayist just like just like a nurse we have not discouraged nurses. From becoming nurses instead of doctors we feel that Boyd in there and that this person is going to be an aide to the the veterinarian to allow them to see more animals. For all. Just to qualify myself yourself I have a cat on the line and with the recent. Let it be a of all of the over the counter road that are going to require a prescription that you have always been available to those of us for over the counter. The only part of your bill the respective authority. What would you prefer scripted authority that was again there that we took it out it is no different than being in there because it said if federal law changes in federal law this decides that and so it's taken out now but has the same effect as it would have been a. It's been one of the other would have to change all the way around that. Thank you Sir. Senator hammer just have a question. In reading this bill. The the individuals that would be allowed to do what you're letting them do could not do it without a collaborative practice of that area is that correct that is correct so if a veterinarian. For the veterinarians don't like this bill all they have to do is just not doing a collaborative agreement and it shut down is that correct that is correct and that's that's a good thing about this bill is if a veterinarian as opposed to it they don't like it they don't have to do it. Pretty simple they don't have participate and they and they they're all the liability and malpractice and everything that would happen including the handling of drugs I mean say say you got a technician the proper term goes and does something illegal what the drug is that is that translate back to that area under whose collaborative agreement that individual practicing for that rest with the individual themselves but some of some of these will have actually a liability insurance policy himself to be totally up to the amount between them and of a veterinary but ultimately the Buck stops with the veterinarian he is the boss and had a veterinarian who are in favor of this bill because they want to have this ability that's not currently there through a collaborative agreement have you had a veterinarian said have spoken in favor of the bill yes I have the alarm of it to work here in central Arkansas we work two hours in every direction of his location is begging for this because he is over worked thank you. Senator sound you're recognized yes I'd like to ask questions for clarification it was talked about in the act committee yesterday about the of that board agreed to the amendments. But also receive take from Arkansas veterinary medical association. The that they never change their stance on being against H. B. eleven eighty two even with the amendments five hearing conflict. I'm just can you clarify what's going on between the board and I want to sit in the meeting yesterday yeah they're not following through with what they said okay. Any other questions Senator Petty. Thank you Mr president so I ask why you're recognized I like what this is attempting to address there is a need out there and I too have had both sides for and against the. The vast majority of those are against our for the concept but I still think that there are some holes in there one of them being the fifteen day period there could be and this was on a small animals side not a large animal side I don't I don't think that I could speak to the concerns on the of the food supply. Concerns in that area but for example the return rate of small animals if if if they send one home and it passes away for it. It's better they're not gonna come back for a follow up and so the concern was fifteen days was too long in that regard because they may come back and they would be technically and non compliance with the requirements with the date was consideration of making it shorter to address some of those concerns so you had two days or three days or something a little closer to a manageable for those that are opposed to for that reason that actually follow up on related the openly answer this one for you yeah actually when you start out and go shaking was the veterinarian's wanted two days the the tax wanted thirty days so we picked fifteen of the twenty. That's how that was come up with and and I think from the food supply standpoint the sooner the better from a technical in compliance or non compliance standpoint that that's a different. Desire there but still dealing with the conflict the other one. Right now I have I have to be licensed in the state of Arkansas correct with rich with this. And what about and I'm I'm not an attorney I know there's representatives here but If someone is in California they can get license to do work in Arkansas correct this. Yes any anyone yet last if you pass the test first reciprocal and and then if there's still based in California and they're doing it remotely but they've got a vet tech with feet on the ground and something does go wrong. And there is there is a liability insurance how do we get a service of process and not become a California. In as opposed to an Arkansas litigation there provision in the bill it is a provision here says they are that they must be a residence in Lassen in Arkansas residents in Arkansas and licensed in Arkansas so due process and service would have to do this is to work directly in conjunction work with our state veterinarians and and just again to emphasize that for and against the most everybody is. For it but they just felt like it was and there was a few holes that maybe could be so that and while the so that you the referring to be straightened out and rules. Senator Blake Johnson. Senator hill will possibly help keep that counted appeal of the yes it will you. Any other questions Senator Gilmore. Senate bill if I remember correctly and I sit on the committee but there was a lot of concerns from the other side on this bill I think you work very hard you and representive ought to to work through that to make an amendment that was quite lengthy some of the concerns like this for prescriptive authority all that was stricken during major surgeries was striking our major procedures restricted all of those things you work for is that not correct that is correct thank you. Any other questions for Senator Hill. Anyone wish to speak against. Senate bill wishes to speak against. In which speak for I see Senator Stubblefield. Thank you chair. Someone who probably is. Spent more time doctor cattle than anyone else in this chamber and I've done it for many many years back when we had large animal vets all over the state. We no longer have that. We have just a few questions Arkansas most of those guys retired nobody's coming in to replace some women that if you look at the vet schools eighty percent of that students now are female. There is no way and this is nothing against females but I can assure you that the. That when you cut into the side of a cal. Or horse you do a C. section one woman cannot take that care for other users you cannot do it physically it takes two or more people and there's a lot of procedures like that displays that but my son's C. sections prolapse is where it takes a lot of strength that women just can't do that then they don't want to do most women now specialize in either horses or small animals because they can make more money we're losing all of our large animal vets and let me tell you what is what it's doing. Because I live in a part of the state where there's still quite a few candles. And I and I've had a done a lot of work for neighbors because they don't know how to do it we we bought most of our drugs at the local co ops like everybody else I would go to a veterinarian and with an activist group which is fighting for the drug when needed would go home. But of. A lot of the farmers had to resort to doing things on the farm they were not qualified to do. And into suffered as a result. Not only farmer but the animals. I want over what form of berry and berry I have a backhoe. I buried a lot of animals for farmers who tried to doctor them themselves because they could not find the vet. Allen C. myself speak for this bill this morning but I I've also watched. Four five of the vessel right around may all retired they've all. They've all got out of the business and and one of the clinics is closed up nobody will take it. And it's just harder and harder to get a large animal vet because of dollars much money in it is there is a doctor in cats and dogs and horses. So It would it would be nice if you have someone who knew the basics there there are Vance I'm major to prevent their medicine in college there are vested candy cannot do a displaced advice on. It's a it's a very complicated procedure when you get to some of the room and back to the wall of your accounts for some action here to so what I'm back to the to the side wall of the castle a lot of its can do that. They never done invest tools of the first large animal vet the came up place we have done a C. section and I said Charlie Hymie the you've done is that this is far flung. And I said you didn't want to vet school is a dope we read about. But we don't do that skills. So. If if we can get qualified people that's that's the main thing you who know how to do these things and have practical experience in dealing with animals and it's not as easy as what everybody thank you call a woman to come I'm doctor cal she will ask you Senator Chesterfield do you ever penned up as a lot. Well before the vet would come out and rope. And Drager tired to treat a doctor. But a woman. Don't rope to guess I'm not that what you just to have as well as is amended trying to doctor animals. So if you really want to if you really want to help the small farmers. And this is not mandatory you don't have to hire the Senate select are these vet techs. If they don't want to they don't have they don't have to but Sir if since they're in an area where there's a lot of cattle. And I need some help. Then what I'm given the chance. The I mean they're going to use their I don't know if they use their DEA or. Or what but I'm telling you this the ones who really suffer are the animals and the guy that owns a. Because a lot of these animals or. Basically I hate to use the word experimented on when you do if you ever done a C. section on the cal. You get a cut to four layers of of tissue and and a lot of times you get him also back together that can't live. So we need people that you know are being at least talk but these vets. And I think it would be a good good first of these is having all of the United States. We're getting less and less large animal vets. one graduate for the college was to vet school in the whole United States. Elihu home state and the in illinois' L. as she was in the. Teaching right veterinary medicine so I think it's a good bill it's it's it's a mandatory not forcing vested hire anybody. the government's problem. When they come the government is the problem. When they come in and start making you get a script for every little bottle of medicine you buy at your local coffee you've been built by it for sixty five seventy years and now you gonna going to get a script about bottle PNG. That's all right. As I write when you going to buy. You know a lot of other things without D. A. here. So anyway I'm I'm in favor of the bill is really just trying to sell out season if it works or helpless. You have a question senator Phil. Senator Chesterfield you're recognized here I was confused because when the Senator came down I thought he was speaking against the bill but he's actually speaking for the bill is that correct that's correct. Even though you thrown out of the seven women and what we can and cannot do you are speaking for the thank you for. Thank you senator Chesterfield clarification late presiding officer needed as well. Anyone you have a question for Senator Stubblefield center right thank you for the. Senate bill is there for this bill may be in the state of fifteen domestic animals and farm animals. Is it is it what kind of things should was there any conversation the thing about the animals the medicated animals and farm animals as far as I know I don't see anything in the bill that would. You know a lot of people raising dogs now and shipping dogs from here to California to New York. And they have to get all kinds of tests done. there's a lot more money in that there and there is raging and fifteen hundred pound cal and and selling her care once a year if it labels. So you can understand the reason people are getting out of large animal veterinary medicine there's just enough money as hard work it's very hard work. Thank you Senator Stubblefield you will anyone wish to speak against. Senator Irvin recognized to speak against. I'm just going to speak on the bill and and defends my daughter has an veterinarian school as a young lady who has done those things and then veterinarian school they are doing those things and women can do those things because I've seen her videos that she sends to me where she is doing those things with large animals and with towels and. She is strong wonderful young lady who wants to come back to rule Arkansas and practice large animal and small animal and there are so many things that we've done as a state to try to open up and find state representative Jeremy Gillam ran legislation to increase our slots at Mississippi state veterinary medicine school it's a fabulous school I visited it but we've never as a state funded those slots that's on us we should fund those slots we should fund more sought some veterinarian schools we should have been addressing this representative Gillam try to do that especially for the people in East Arkansas we have two schools that are stepping up and providing that merry medicine I think that's great so I want to say in response to that that you know I have been so proud of my daughter he was trying to do what she can to become a veterinarian and come back to the state of Arkansas and practice on cattle which she grew up showing and raising it through FFA and was an officer and showed cal's all through her high school career and she's in veterinary medicine veterinarian school trying to make a difference in coming back to our state and I'm proud of her because she's a young woman doing it my concerns on the bill on page five when it talks about performing minor dental and surgical procedures on animal patients excluding abdominal thoracic in orthopedics or orthopedic surgery and neurosurgery my issue is when you start to make lists like that you may unintentionally or intentionally leave something off that list so I secretary Sobeys neuter is those types of things. Because you started a list of exclusions of surgeries you're gonna leave something out and I just think that could have been written a little bit better and tighter and and I think there's some other areas where the prescriptive authority is included but it depends on federal law and I would have preferred to have that all of that stricken out in my opinion that thank you. Thank you wish to speak for Senator Clark. You're recognized to speak for. Colleagues. Thank you non government. Of. There's plenty of reason to be on either side of. I have myself of going back and forth and have given a lot of thought and. The My late dads of the veterinarian that up took care of his cattle contacted me and laid out his concerns I think is very sincere I think it's concerns are very real. And Bob really considered that an even for Tom going that way. But what's happening because a lot of this as we do this in different areas that we we lower a standard for the certification first things that can be done. There's always this thing that will you don't you're not respected professionals and that's just not true. It's not that we don't respect professionals is not that the people that we represent and that's the important thing don't respect professionals it's that they're just hard of not being able to get services a decade that I've been here that we've that we've known and we knew way before that we've known about this problem with the shortage of veterinarians and we said you know we need what we can't get any more slots there are any more slots to get in these colleges. And I'm told that five out of a hundred of the students who apply from Arkansas we have to worry about it being discouraged they're already discouraged five out of a hundred that apply getting. That's how many want to work and you come out of those schools with debt and you can make three times as much money working with dogs and cats. And so people just want an answer. They don't you know it and we see this all over you know representative McGrew is working on a property management bill I have two houses that my wife and I have to manage. Language that we didn't want to manage. But there's not anybody in Senator Hickey. Can't do it I mean he's too far away from me but I guarantee you he knows what he's doing. He can do it for himself but he can't do it for me representing the group has has more rentals posted anybody hot springs he can do from self can't do for me. So many people have commented to me this session about my weight loss well I've been losing ten pounds a year for the last four years. But it's because I went to a nurse practitioner but doctor who a lot of Hester's practitioners but nurse practitioners who specialize in this area I exercise less than I ever have. I eat what I want to eat. And I'm not in danger right now. Nearly in danger of having a heart attack or stroke. And I was doing everything that people tell me to do until I went to somebody there by said was dangerous survived if we did that. But it's the difference between protecting me for good health care or may not get in any health care and that's that is exactly what we're looking at here is from protecting the I'm not gonna say that some bad things can happen. But the fact is right now AS one count producer told me today very eloquently to say I would trust the average farmer out there not the average with the former the cattle producer who has given. I thousand shots then the then the small animal veterinarian who works with dogs and cats who was never given one. This makes a lot of sense to me and so we've got people who want to go into this field this is something that they can do. Maybe we don't have all the safeguards or I can tell you but I can tell you that the need is there and the people are tired of waiting and we represent the people. Anyone wish to speak against. Anyone else wish to speak for. Senator Hill you're free to close. Madam chair I did tell you we live it up live it today did not. In closing I'd like to say I appreciate everything that's been said and Senator Irvin as comments which she got appearing real respectfully just proper their calendar is going to be at school is she going to do some do some great things with the large our small animal either one but I do think this bill will help her daughter to have a see more patients will make more money to be able to do the things that they need to be successful especially among young bit coming and getting started to be working together instead of against each other no different than a nurse nurses do I know a. I can't think a chicken little whenever whenever us to this bill the sky is falling the sky is falling guess what we started this in twenty nineteen the sky is not falling directed to an expansion of the S. they can be a great thing if we don't plan on allowing the people to do more to make a living we need to look back into by with what we did twenty nineteen so as to what get false degrees everything that they've been doing to work in a field that they love care about and maybe they did not get into the veterinary medicine school committee said while ago but it allows them to stay in the field taking care of animals this is the humane thing for us to do I have greatly appreciate a good vote. Thank you senator Maddox secretary please call the roll. Boyd. Brian. Brian. Caldwell. Caldwell. Chesterfield. Chesterfield. Clark. Kroll. Roll. Davis. These. DISMANG. Dotson. English. English. Flippo. Flowers. Flowers. Gilmore. Gilmore. Hammer. Hester. Hickey Hill. Irvine. Blake Johnson. Mark Johnson. Key. Katie. Leding. Love. Love. The key. Hi Murdock. Murdock. Payton Penzo. Petty. Rice. Stone. The. Stubblefield. Sullivan. Tucker. Wallace. Any senators who have not voted wish to vote or change vote I see senator Gilmore on this side voting. Yes I see Senator love voting yes center Kroll voting is anyone else on this side. Senator Chesterfield president. Anyone else on this I'm forgetting this side this side Senator Dismang voting. No anyone else on this side. I see Senator Tucker. Senator Murdock yes. Anyone else please check board. Please cast a ballot. By a vote twenty eight eight nine two not voting and for voting present HB eleven eighty two passes and returned to the house. And thank you for not fighting like cats and dogs. H. B. eleven ninety seven. House bill eleven ninety seven by representive Underwood and senator Gilmore concerning disqualification for unemployment compensation benefits under the division of workforce services law and to prohibit the claimant for unemployment compensation benefits from ghosting prospective employers. Under no more you're recognized thank you governor. I will first I want to thank my colleague senator hill for running that bill ahead of this one because hopefully everybody got all of the controversial hot topics out of their system this one is not one of those bills that was like Senator hills this one should be pretty easy it's agreed to we worked with industry we work with the W. S. basically we're codifying practice that they're already doing that is when if you were getting unemployment insurance we want to make sure that you are actually showing up to your interviews if you're scheduling an interview with a potential employer that you actually show up you're not to use the term ghosting them by scheduling something and not showing up so I wish we could run this bill on Valentine's day because that way we could have you know been voting on a bill that says you should be ghosting people so with that I'm happy to take any questions I cease Senate Chesterville. Senator Chesterfield you're recognized thank you I'm not in a position to be over I'm just wondering if the term ghosting is what we are using our industry and if this is an accepted term throughout the industry. I would say is accepted in the sense of it defines fairly accurately what some individuals are doing you will find that the term ghosting is in the title in quotes it's not in the actual language of the bill but I think it's fairly wide spread the knowledge of what that means to employers well that was one. That when a but I just wondered if it were a part of the industry language and I did notice that you would put in quotations but is not part of the bill itself it's not it's not but but we did work with industry and we work for some of their concerns thank you. Senator Mark Johnson. Thank you Mr president Senator Gilmore I'm in her percent support of what you're trying to do this bill but words mean things and I'm always concerned when there's not a definition of a particular word and I didn't see one in the bill is there some place maybe black's law dictionary or something else that we can depend on for this because if you don't have it defined then to me you're almost asking for litigation or in this case worse yet allowing the people whom you're trying to do the right thing to find a way to get out of it so is there a solution to the are you and are you referring to the word ghosting yes yeah so the word ghosting is not in any of the codified language of this bill so if you look through that it states very clearly but it that that word is not in the actual codified language of the bill okay so it's simplifying the action that you're referring to correct correct okay I I I accept that I just and I guess I'm being overly cautious about putting something in the law that we haven't defined but if perhaps in a few years will have all these words fine the find a there are a lot of words floating around now that are in common usage black Karen for example. But I don't think that we need to do anything I want to find that here today Senator thing I would ask you. But I did it to me it's at I'm very obsessed with the fact that we be very clear because you know while I love my lawyer friends I'm not trying to give them extra work I understand you thanks for the question yes a good bill. Our. Anyone else have a question. Anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator has closed any objection to rowing the boat. Madam secretary please role that. Boyd Bryant Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis DES dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stone Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senators who wish to change their his or her vote at this time I see Senator live betting president. Any other senators. Which to change his or her vote. C. nine please cast a ballot. By a vote of thirty three eight zero nine and one president bill passes returned to the house. H. B. twelve seventy eight. House bill twelve seventy eight by representative Gazaway and senator Tucker. To make technical corrections to title four of the Arkansas code concerning business and commercial law Senator Tucker you're recognized. Thank you madam president before I get to this bill in particular I just wanna give a little bit of context especially for our new members I know you'll be shocked to hear this but every legislative session there maybe bills that get passed that aren't exactly entirely consistent with each other so when that happens. There's a a committee called the code revision commission that takes a look at all the legislation that got passed and they identify places where there are inconsistencies and the Commission consenso can consist of two senators two representatives and some members of the public they take a look at all these bills and they put forth what's called technical corrections bills if there's something that requires a substantive change it does not come out of the code revision commission because at some matter for the legislature to determine on its own but if there's just a technical correction it comes it's recommended by the code revision commission and then there's one bill per title of the code that needs revision so we're going to have about twenty technical corrections bills come through the process over the next week or two what we have here today is the first four so with that pre amble I will turn to House Bill twelve seventy eight. Which is the technical corrections bill for title for all this particular bill does is create consistency by amending language to conform to the current uses of Turman terminology which is certificate of organization for L. C. rather than articles of organization based on the uniform limited liability company act that we passed that's all house bill twelve seventy eight does happy take any questions any questions for Senator Tucker. Anyone wishing to speak against or for. Senator Tucker you're free to close thank you madam president close for the bill appreciate a good vote any objection to rowing the boat. Madam secretary please well the vote. Boyd Bryant Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis the Dismang Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson came Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stone Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator who wishes to change his or her vote. C. nine please cast up the ballot. Those at thirty forty eight zero nine. Bill passes please return to the House. H. B. twelve eighty one House Bill. Twelve twelve eighty twelve eighty by representative Gazaway and senator Tucker to make technical corrections to title six of the Arkansas code concerning education. Senator Tucker you're recognized thank you madam president this bill is a technical corrections bill for title six section one just conforms to the code style section to merely corrects the name of an entity section three adds a code citation for clarity within that particular code section and then sections four and five just clarify which entities within state government are being referred to I'm happy to take any questions any questions for Senator Tucker. Anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator Tucker you're free to close thank you madam president closed and Bridget good vote any objection to it rolling that. Madam secretary please roll the vote Boyd Bryant's Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis the Dismang Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stone Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator who wishes to change his or her vote. Please cast the ballot. By a vote of thirty forty eight ran a. Eighteen twelve eighty passes please return to the House now H. B. twelve eighty one house bill twelve eighty one by representative Gazaway and senator Tucker to make technical corrections to title eight of the Arkansas code concerning environmental law. Senator Tucker you're recognized. Thank you madam president this is the technical corrections bill for title eight of the code section one merely replaces an obviously reference to appealed to me repeal law section two deletes a definition that is not used in the law and section three clarifies that it's a monthly report that said happy take any questions any questions for Senator Tucker. C. nine does anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator Tucker you're free to close. Thank you Mr president I'm close for bill appreciate a good vote. Any objection to rally number. Madam secretary please relevant. Boyd Bryant's Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis these dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stones Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Thirty senator who wishes to change his or her vote. Please cast a ballot. By a vote of thirty forty eight zero name. Bill passes please return to the House. H. B. twelve eighty two house bill twelve eighty two by representative Gazaway and senator Tucker to make technical corrections to title nine of the Arkansas code concerning family law. Senator Tucker you're recognized thank you Mr president this is the last one for the day the technical corrections bill for title nine is simply clarifies that the petition is for an order of protection that said I have a second questions. Any questions for Senator Tucker. Anyone wishing to speak against or for. Senator you are free to close thank you madam president close Preciado give a. Any objection to rowing the boat. Madam secretary please Robert. Boyd Bryant's Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis dis dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stones Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator who wishes to change his or her vote. Please cast a ballot. By a vote at thirty forty eight zero nine eight three twelve eighty two passes please return to the House. H. B. thirteen fifty two house bill thirteen fifty two by representative Dalby and Senator Hickey to amend the law concerning the ceiling of a record of a felony conviction of driving or boating while intoxicated. Senator Hickey you're recognized governor of members what this does is closed. This close a loophole that we somehow created in the law currently if you have a boating or driving while intoxicated and it's a misdemeanor. Does that cannot be sealed for ten years somehow we allowed for a felony just a mater to be sailed before the ten year look back so what this is going to do is is is keep that consistent so it will so we cannot be sealed for ten years. Questions Senator Hammer you're recognized for a question thank you Sir he can just I don't remember we ran a bill last time we came to the look back period prosecute for those that had excessive number of the United in a period of time this section is in any way or you know they help her. I may have to get some help from somebody else in here but this is my understanding. What we did is that we we have ran that bill for for classified felonies IDW five the to be falls under an unclassified if I'm if if I understand it all correctly so that is the reason that there's a loophole in it I do believe. So I hope I'm explaining it right okay thank you. Welcome to you Senator Tucker. Thank you Mr president. I think I have an answer for senator Hammer question. In addition to what you said my understanding is that two years ago we passed a law to close a loophole for DFB eyes but the loophole was not closed for driving while intoxicated for operating above. And so this is closing that will call for and making the voting video DWS consistent with the motor. That's my saying is that. That's that is my understanding because somehow or another it it had to deal with the classified and unclassified part of it thank you so thank you. Any other questions. Anyone wish to speak against or for. Undertaking you're recognized close I'm closed. Any objection to rolling about. Madam secretary please well that. Boyd Bryant Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis DES dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stone Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator wish to change his or her vote. Senator Flippo not voting. Health center can not voting. Senator Clark not voting. Any others. Please cast a ballot. By a vote of thirty two eight zero nine eight two not voting bill passes please return to the House. Any items at the desk yes madam president will your committee on engrossed bills to whom was referred Senate bill one eighty four by Senator B. Johnson report we carefully compared the engrossed copy with the original and find the same correctly engrossed calendar we are committee on engrossed bills to whom was referred Senate bill one eighty six by Senator Irvin report we have carefully compared the engrossed copy with the original and find the same correctly engrossed calendar we are committee on engrossed bills to whom was referred house bill eleven sixty one by representative Hudson report we carefully compared the engrossed copy with the original and find the same correctly engrossed calendar we are committee on engrossed bills to whom was referred house bill eleven eighty five by representative Mayberry report we have carefully compared the engrossed copy with the original and find the same correctly engrossed calendar Senate bill two eighty by Senator Dismang to amend the law concerning the creation and duties of the Arkansas ethics commission and two men portions of the initiated act one of nineteen ninety and initiated act one of nineteen ninety six Senate bill two eighty. State agencies Senate bill two eighty one by Senator came to amend the law concerning repeat offenders and parole eligibility Senate bill two eighty one. Judiciary Senate bill two eighty two by Senator Irvin to amend the law concerning a civil cause of action for victims of human trafficking Senate bill two eighty two Judiciary. Any announcements. That's mine. Thank you members we almost missed out on a very important day today it is Birthday for our Majority Leader so I'd like you all to not join me because I can't sing but I'd like for you all to sing Happy Birthday FOR our majority Blake Johnson. Senator Blake Johnson. The members of the. Getting a little bit long in the tooth the The assessors and county clerks have got lunch over Capitol Hill and we have state agencies appointed adjournment right after this so thank you guys for the murder awful birthday sound. Thank you. Senator Pitsch. Thank you madam attention retirement committee members and Senator Hickey Monday nine AM instead of eight thirty for the retirement committee I have a nine AM Monday instead of eight thirty. Senator Mark Johnson. Thank you madam president. I've been asked to remind all of the. Its solutions. I didn't know about it is on the card the Clerk. Today. Senator Blake Johnson S. I remind members that the clerks association I believe we do have a thing on our desks and set the association of counties And let me let me go back to where I when I came down for madam president order mind everyone that next Tuesday is home school day at the capitol and almost a thousand home schoolers will be at the capitol that day and if you'd like to welcome they'll be in the rotunda starting at nine AM and join us on the steps at twelve for a group photo and meet with the home schoolers from your district in the rotunda at twelve forty five so I know you all want to do that in the after two thirty they'll actually have some homemade desserts for you in the rotunda so Thousand students is a lot of students and I know you're gonna have some from your district there so we can make it thank you ma'am thanks any other announcements at this time. It's not the Senate will stand endangerment subject to the clearing and asked until one PM on February twentieth two thousand twenty three.