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Joint Budget Committee

April 21, 2026 ·9:00 AM ·Room A, MAC ·40:26
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Bill Title Sponsor Status
HB1005 · 2 mentions in agenda, transcript
Matched: “…Correction 9. Amendment KMW090 by Representative Walker to HB1005 – Department of Education 10. Amendment JAP087 by Senator H…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL YEAR. Joint Budget Committee Correctly enrolled and ordered transmitted to the Governor's …
HB1004 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…Fayetteville 8. Amendment DJC040 by Representative Unger to HB1004 – DOC-Division of Community Correction 9. Amendment KMW090…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS - DIVISION OF COMMUNITY CORRECTION APPROPRIATION FOR THE … Unger Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1007 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…and Administration 5. Amendment KMW094 by Senator Irvin to HB1007 – Department of Education-Division of Elementary and Second…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION - DIVISION OF ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION - … Joint Budget Committee Correctly enrolled and ordered transmitted to the Governor's …
HB1009 Act 118 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “on item B-1 is House Bill 1009 for the Department of Public Safety. That is also ready for…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL YEAR. Joint Budget Committee Notification that HB1009 is now Act 118
HB1011 Act 120 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…as amended if it's the will of the committee. The first is House Bill 1011, Department of Corrections. That is ready for a due pass as…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS - DIVISION OF CORRECTION APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 … Joint Budget Committee Notification that HB1011 is now Act 120
HB1017 Act 121 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “The second bill ready for do pass as amended on item B-1 is House Bill 1017, Department of Agriculture, Promotion Boards. Mr. Chair, it…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE - PROMOTION BOARDS APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL … Joint Budget Committee Notification that HB1017 is now Act 121
HB1034 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…Johnson 2. ASP - Health Funding Report dated March 2026 3. HB1034 - Treasurer of State–Operations Revised Letter dated April…”
AN ACT FOR THE OFFICE OF THE TREASURER OF STATE APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL … Joint Budget Committee Correctly enrolled and ordered transmitted to the Governor's …
HB1051 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ment of Education 10. Amendment JAP087 by Senator Hester to HB1051 – DFA Regulatory D. Consideration of Bills Referred to Join…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE & ADMINISTRATION - REGULATORY DIVISION APPROPRIATION FOR THE … Joint Budget Committee Correctly enrolled and ordered transmitted to the Governor's …
HB1068 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…aff Only'. 4. Amendment JAP084 by Representative Vaught to HB1068 – Department of Finance and Administration 5. Amendment KMW…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL YEAR. Joint Budget Committee Correctly enrolled and ordered transmitted to the Governor's …
HB1099 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…-Revised Amendment JAR133 C. Member Bills and Amendments 1. HB1099 by Representative Ladyman – DHS-Division of Developmental D…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES - DIVISION OF DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES SERVICES APPROPRIATION. Ladyman Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SB10 Act 130 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…ecial language agenda that is ready for do passes amended a Senate bill 10”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE - DIVISION OF WORKFORCE SERVICES APPROPRIATION FOR THE … Joint Budget Committee Notification that SB10 is now Act 130
SB41 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…riculture 7. Amendment HAR145 by Representative McKenzie to SB41 – U of A Fayetteville 8. Amendment DJC040 by Representative…”
AN ACT FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS - FAYETTEVILLE APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL YEAR. Joint Budget Committee DELIVERED TO GOVERNOR.
SB43 Act 136 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ublic School Fund 6. Amendment HAR144 by Senator Dismang to SB43 - University of Arkansas-Division of Agriculture 7. Amendme…”
AN ACT FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS - DIVISION OF AGRICULTURE APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 … Joint Budget Committee Notification that SB43 is now Act 136
SB7 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…of Commerce 3. Amendment CJW038 by Representative Perry to SB7 – Department of Commerce-State Insurance Department Note: A…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE - STATE INSURANCE DEPARTMENT APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 … Joint Budget Committee DELIVERED TO GOVERNOR.
SB8 Act 129 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ntal Disabilities 2. Amendment CJW039 by Senator Dismang to SB8 – Department of Commerce 3. Amendment CJW038 by Representat…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL YEAR. Joint Budget Committee Notification that SB8 is now Act 129

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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 6:11
Members appreciate appreciate everybody being here this morning. I want to start by recognizing a group are they in the audience yet ok we'll wait till they get in and then we'll do that members will start with B item be one is special
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Speaker 6 6:30
language committee report Senator Mcee here you got the report Senator Mckee you recognize just
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 6:35
a moment let me get to the right place and hit the right button
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Senator Matt McKee Unverified 6:46
Senator Mckee you're recognized to present the report. Thank you Mr Chairman. Thepecial languagenguageittee met on Thursday, April16th and reports the following actions the subcommittee adopted 9 amendments for governor's letter7 and3014, number 20 tohB105 number 20 tohP10072223 number 24 number 25 and number 29 and number 27 amendment sponsored by Senator Dising pages 1 through 29 of the packet include all the attachments adopted by the subcommittee. I move adoption of the report
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 7:16
members we have a motion to adopt the report we have a second have a second all those in favor say aye and then we members we need a motion to Yeah yeah we just make we need a motion do passes amended the bills that are on the report we almost have this down members one moment so we're going to go through those individually
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Speaker 18 7:43
Mr Chairman thank you Mr Chairman with the adoption of the personnel report, there are4 items that are listed on that report that can go out do pass as amended if it's the will of the committee. The first is House Bill1011, Department of Corrections that is ready for a due pass as amended Mr
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 7:59
Chairman. Members do we have any questions? See no questions we have a motion a motion we have a second? any discussion on the motion all those in favor say aye
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Speaker 18 8:11
post passes the second bill ready fordu pass as amended on itemut B1 is House Bill1017 Department of Agriculture promotion boards Mr Chaot it's ready for a due pass as amended. Members
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 8:20
have passes the second bill ready fordu pass as amended on itemut B1 is House Bill1017 Department of Agriculture promotion boards Mr Chaot it's ready for a due pass as amended. Members with any questions motion
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Speaker 18 8:30
to pass a motion we have a 2nd 2nd all those in favor say aye motion passes. Next, Mr. Chairman on autumn B1 is House Bill1009 for the Department of Public Safety that is also ready for adu
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 8:37
pass as amended. Members, do we have any questions seeing no questions we have a motion second all those in any any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye
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Speaker 18 8:47
the ocean passes and Mr Chairman the last bill on the pur the special language agenda that is ready for do pass as amended is Senate Bill10,
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 8:56
Department of Commerce, Division of Workforce Services. Members do we have any questions seen a question of motion we have a question one moment we're
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Representative Robin Lundstrum Unverified 9:07
loss from you're recognized for a question. Thank you just a quick question. I wanted to make sure are we spending increases in this budget? I see an unemployment insurance modernization 10 million I just need an explanation of what what are we spending $10 million on there's someone
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 9:22
from DFA can come to the table and answer
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Speaker 31 9:29
that in in order to up there he is
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 9:49
if you can just introduce yourself for the committee
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Speaker 38 9:53
when you get to the table Jim Hutts the secretary of DFA I've also askeddWS or commerce to come up
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Representative Robin Lundstrum Unverified 9:59
since it's their appropriation bill just a little explanation of what we're spending $10
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 10:04
million on and if you don't mind introducing yourself to
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Speaker 40 10:09
the committee just for the record good morning Alison Hatfield, chief of staff department of commerce. let
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Speaker 38 10:13
me look this this is a continuation I think of a previously approved peer appropriation so we're not we're not increasing anything we're
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Representative Robin Lundstrum Unverified 10:20
actually just continuing into into next year I believe that helps we're spending a lot of money up here and I just want to know we're not increasing anything this is what we currently have allotted ok thank you that helps a bunch and and I'm getting some nods behind you that that that's good that's where the real answers are so that's
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 10:40
what I've heard all right thank you members do we have any more questions seeing none do we have a motion we have a second any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes.
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 10:53
Members that should bring us down to item two. this is a report just for reporting purposes only is that correct? so any questions on the report seeing them we'll move on to item three if we could have somebody from the treasurer's department come up to address any questions yeah while we're sitting here I want to make an announcement there's a re relatively large group that is approached from the back and y'all are making quite the impression on us here as an audience today so I want to make sure we recognize you. This is folks from the this is AR Stem day at the capitol. So these are students from initiative programme at ive schools across the state and they're joining us to talk about the importance of STtem education here at the capitol in the grame. so they're exhibiting up in the rotunda until 2 p.m. so how you know if you get a chance please go by and visit with these folks a lot of good information there if you don't know East is an educated accelerated by service and technology is what it stands for it's a 30 year old Arkansas founded and not and based nonprofit educational programs supporting over 235 Arkansas schools that empower students to solve real world problems in their community using technology and projectbas learning so we have people here today from Hot Springs Junior Academyriendship aspire Academy Southeast Middle School Palm Bluff. here we go prairie Grove High school Batesville High School charter and then Buffalo Island High School. So if you can members welcome these folks here today to visit us. appreciate y'all being here today and and taking the time to come and visit if you if you don't mind just announce your name for the
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Michael Harry Unverified 12:47
committee so we can know for the record who you are thank
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 12:51
you uhmierry with the office of the treasurer yeah if you could if you could just explain the letter and I think there's
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Michael Harry Unverified 12:57
some members that may have some questions give us an explanation of what we're looking at. OK, yeah briefly it's changed from our original letter through some discussion with several members we reduced the ask for salaries down to we're capping it at 10% of the the current budget
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Speaker 51 13:13
that was that was now from our original request I think it was like 19.8% or something like that
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 13:18
OK so you reduced from 19.8 down to 10% it's a 10% cap.
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Speaker 55 13:23
that's correct yeah members we do have some questions
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Senator Joshua Bryant Chair Unverified 13:26
Senator Bryant, you recognize? Thank you Mr chairir. I just, I appreciate you listening to the concerns of of the of the body I was just looking through and I got a lot of information I gathered fromblr and I noticed the majority of the money the raises that you received since treasury's changed hands constitutionally up to33% raise to one individual all the way down to 2% to your some of your lowest paid I I I look at it as this kind of a little bit lopsided as far as the C suitite getting 20+cent raises and maybe the the the workforce getting less with this raise with this money that you're asking for what is the majority of that where are those raises going to you're gonna max out your your Csuite or you're gonna put it towards your lower workforce I
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Michael Harry Unverified 14:20
honestly don't know that that has not been discussed as far as who's getting the bulk of whatever I would imagine that we'll be able to spread it around quite a bit obviously it's always up to the treasurer himself but that that's the intent the intent of these you know the requests that we've made have been to retain the talent that we have just to address you know briefly the the the raises that you mentioned before I'm not sure if the body's aware but like we have an inhouse investment team for investment managers that's oversee our $11.5 billion portfolio based on the the size of the portfolio and the return on investment that we've seen since treasure's taken off it's almost I'd say almost600 million dollars that we've gotten we've gotten in that's nonx taxpayer money that's gone to the to the to the state itself if we did not have the ability to retain that talent we would have to send that service out to a private firm based on the going rate of fees that these rates the these firms usually charge the state would be paying out about $180 million a year so I I know it seems big but taking in context we're just trying to retain the valuable talent that we have
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Senator Joshua Bryant Chair Unverified 15:43
so you don't know if you're gonna max out line items to your upper echelon versus inside the do not know that the two of the investment managers themselves are
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Michael Harry Unverified 15:52
already maxed out so if we were to give them any money we'd have to come back to you all to ask for the ability to do that so because some of these
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Senator Joshua Bryant Chair Unverified 15:59
I went from 120 to to 180 in the last three years which is you know almost50% raise which you know in the world of government seems like they're doing really good so right when we're trying to compete you know much more than I think some of
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Michael Harry Unverified 16:13
the other constitutionals we have to compete with the private sector quite a bit more dealing with investment firms and banking institutions that are that are trying to to take talent so I understand but you know taking within context we we feel like it's been ok I appreciate that thank you Representative Cavanaugh you're recognized
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 16:33
thank you Mr Chair. I'm over here to that and kind of along the lines that the senator was speaking of when you did your last raise, I'm gonna be honest with you. there was one person that got almost a50,000 dollars raise. you have two individuals that almost got a40,000 dollars raise. then you had a30,000 dollars raise and a35,000 dollars raise. Those are significant raises and when you come to the table saying you need more money for raises and you can't tell us that it's going to go to somebody besides the ones that you just raised substantially which by the way several make more than what the governor's staff does
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Michael Harry Unverified 17:15
I have I have a little heartburn. I understand that and and hopefully I explained the
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 17:21
reason why well I think what you explained the reason why is you're gonna leave it up to the treasurer. You couldn't say that you were going to spread this additional monies to the other workers and even though you have to have qualified people, I believe you've got qualified people when they're paid more than the executive branch and then secondly, you still got to have workers quality workers whether or not they're in the top echelon or not but it appears to me that we're not taking care of those people it appears to me that we're taking care of a select few and what we've also done during this time is we have also reduced the hours of the office the office is closing earlier you've made it harder for citizens to be able to come in and tour. So there's a lot of different things going on in that depar in your office that gives me some heartburn that you need to raise more people's salary again and but you're still saying that you cannot say that this money's going to go to someone besides as the senator put top echelon right it's not my
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Michael Harry Unverified 18:28
call to to determine who gets the the the salary bump I will say since thetur's taken office we've been able to retain I believe all but wo individuals and they both left for higher paying jobs with with due respect if i was
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 18:47
getting a50% raise you'd keep me too. So where is the secretary at? How come he's not here to answer these questions
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Michael Harry Unverified 18:55
the treasurer you mean Yes sorry Well I I'm I'm here at the table for him that's it's it's my my job
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 19:01
to be here at the table but is it not also the treasurer's ability to be here to answer questions when he's the one
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Michael Harry Unverified 19:09
that has to make the decisions ultimately I understand that and and any questions you may have can be sent to us to him we can we can talk offline about that I feel like we've we've been pretty good about reaching out to to individuals and I understand that that you have some questions and and that's understandable this is a big decision for you all. but we'll get whatever answers you need I
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 19:29
can assure you be nice to hear it come from the treasurer is what I'm saying we're hearing a budget hearing we're talking about his budget with questions only he can answer. so it would have been a good idea if the treasure had come to answer these questions himself. thank you in
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Michael Harry Unverified 19:43
all honesty the decisions to give the races has not been made basically because we had no idea that that we would even get this I mean this was this was a large ask we understand that so it wasn't until hopefully it passes that we would then have meaningful conversations about who would get a raise and that's Kevin
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 20:03
I did not mean to catch you off. Were you done with your line of questioning? Yeah Senator Johnson you recognize thank you Mr Chairman I've heard
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 20:14
this and the gentleman have been very nice about coming to me and trying to explain it we had a little meeting but when I I ask staff to get me the list of salary increases provided within the treasurer's office since January of 2025 it was it was kind of lopsided I noticed that the people at the top the highest one went was33.20% remember this is before this ask this is this was the 225 increases and then they keep they keep jumping up and jumping up and your office already received241,000 in in additional salary for for 2025 and one investment manager received43,849 dollars in raises and the other48,305 and that's since March of 2025. so we're talking you know what 13 months at the most now chief deputy was given a39,991 dollars raise. chief of staff at39,991 dollars raise. chief financial officer at34,745 dollars raise and so since Mr Thurston became treasurer we're looking at again this is from the numbers I I get from from our staff uh493,223 dollars in raises now I want to keep good people but can you imagine what we'd be doing when we're if we extrapolate all the way across not just state government but just even among the constitutional officers I'm I'm I'm wondering would the and if it's I wish also wish the treasures here maybe he could just give me a straight up answer but would you guys go along with or your boss go along you think with maybe some special language that limits the that caps the raises that people could receive from this appropriation and then if some you know Jamie Diammond guy applies and wants to be your financial manager we could maybe pay him more or something I'm I'm just your your logic makes perfect sense but if we spread that cro around every de s er ving person in state government you know we couldn't pass a budget in here and I'm I'm I'm just expecting that the elected officials may be to sit a little bit better example of of of answering the questions I appreciate very much uhpresentative Kavanaugh's statement and she said about heartburn I mean I I had to take an extra Nexium this morning because of the heartburn so I'm I'm I'm I'm not again perhaps we need to do some special language that would limit these raises to certain people and not us write a you know check for whatever that amount I just said you know uh493,223 dollars of course we were over 800,000 before the amendment but just get some more specifics and I I'm that's a question what do you think that reas Thurston be willing to do that or is that something we need to sit down over a table and and see what what negotiating room we have
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Speaker 78 23:38
so to speak yes senator thank you I I I would hope that throughout the conversations
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Michael Harry Unverified 23:44
that we've had that you you've may be taken away from that that we have a willingness to work with you all we understand that the importance of of this this committee and that you hold the purse strings for for the state so we we would never turn down
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Speaker 58 24:00
discussions with with anyone here about any concerns that you might have well
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 24:05
are you telling me that while you're certainly willing to talk you can't speculate on what the treasurer's answer would be to the question I just asked. I know for a fact that the
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Michael Harry Unverified 24:15
treasure would more than happily sit down with any that part I know he will
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 24:20
he's I consider him my friend I think he's a great guy the question is do you speculate that he would agree to some kind of cap either a percentage cap or or I was even thinking if someone got a ridiculous not I won't say ridiculous a a a double digit percentage raise in2025 that maybe they would not get a raise and for the upcoming fiscal year or it would be capped at a certain amount where the people that are making I mean there's a couple here uh7.15%,7.35%,3.68% raise that those people perhaps yeah we we'd be willing to see that their raises go up and more commensurate with what we're seeing for other folks deserving folks all across state government and you may say I don't know I can't he's not here and you can't ask him but I do need to get a feel is can we get an answer from him either you're your best guess or something maybe we need to get he needs to come back tomorrow or something senator I think it's hard for
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 25:30
him I mean speaking for someone else it may be difficult for him to say that and we do have lots
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 25:36
of questions still in the queue but it do you want
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Michael Harry Unverified 25:41
to try to attempt to answer that question is it do not believe that the treasury would be opposed to
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 25:48
conversations about a cat would you be willing excuse me if I could just quickly wrap up Mr Chair would you be willing to come back to us with some proposed special language or something that would give you some some more money but also have some you know it wouldn't be what I consider a blank check to an
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Speaker 58 26:10
individual well yes I mean if short answer
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Michael Harry Unverified 26:14
is yes you know I I do know that we're running short on on time as far as this you know fiscal
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 26:21
session we'll get you a budget it may not be exactly the one you want but I promise you this this body will get you a budget we don't we don't not fund constitutional officers well there was that little game and fish thing a year a couple of years ago but but otherwise we tended to take care of business here but if you were to visit with him I think we could do that couldu'm not trying to get
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 26:42
you all but there are quite a few people still in line for questions sopresentative Bill continue to recognize. thank you
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Representative Aaron Pilkington Unverified 26:49
I'm I'm over here yeah I think to echo what my colleagues have said I think the concern is when we were here last time it was we needed additional funds for the investment team and then the money didn't go to the investment team. now you're asking us to trust you again so I think trust me bro is not really a policy that I would like to follow when creating budgets here at the state and then additionally while I've I've got the got the mic I'm curious because if we pass this we'll have the highest paid scheduler your office will have the highest paid scheduler in the state more than the governor is the treasure in demand that much that we need to pay there's s his schedule are more than the governor's schedule because if they are I seriously doubt the ability of the scheduler to not schedule him to be here today to answer this questions.
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Michael Harry Unverified 27:35
well traditionally speaking the constitutional officer doesn't appear at these types of meetings I handle the day to day stuff our team handles the day to day stuff the treasure doesn't shirk from anyone I can guarantee you that I understand the heartburn about the salaries I will say that when we came to you all in the last session it was to adopt the pay plan that was developed by the governor these are not our numbers we didn't come up with these out of thin air we we asked to be included on the governor's pay plan we went through the work to have our positions graded in accordance with what the governor's office had put out so we're not trying to play any tricks I I I I our investment team got raises and they needed it they
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Representative Aaron Pilkington Unverified 28:28
hadn't been we don't smaller or larger than the C suitite staff. the the raises to the investment team were they smaller raises than it was to the C suitite staff. I mean your your team your I mean listen you're your your investment team is the machine that that produces the returns that we like to see and we're very happy about but I just feel like the president was set last time when you asked for additional funds that the money was to go to them, it did not very little went to them compared to other people in that office and now it's the concern is you know and I understand you can't speak for the treasure. I think Representative Kavanaugh and and Senator Johnson both asked this question I think we're just being a dead horse maybe now but we really need the treasure to put in writing or something so that we can make sure that the money actually goes to the team it needs to go to and not to schedulers and chiefs of staff that are not actually being part of this investment team that is the engine that's producing the returns that we want. So we can leave it at that because we're I think we're gonna hold this so thank you members they're in
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 29:35
there will be time for discussion so just want to encourage members to stick to questions if we can at this pointpresentative Lunstrom you're recognized
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Representative Robin Lundstrum Unverified 29:44
I'd like to make a motion at the proper time that we hold this budget until we can get some
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 29:50
more information and the treasurer can come to the meetingpresentative Kavanaugh you're in line for a
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 29:56
question. do you want to take a question before that motion? Representative Kavanaugh you recognize. Thank you. I'm going to switch to one other thing one other appropriation that you asked for was $150,000 for their preparedness and safetyack in 2024, we gave money for that 150,000 I believe and we were told that was going to have to be a one time appropriation. Why are we needing
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Michael Harry Unverified 30:21
it again? a year and a half years later 2 years that is to help with our adjustment to the switchover from As to the S4hanna we have to upgrade our IT and our IT security and we're going to a cloudbased system away from the serverbas system so that that money is going to pay for that but what
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 30:38
did the 150,0an0 do that was supposed to be for that also
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Michael Harry Unverified 30:43
I don't believe that that was for this particular thing that was that was used for other areas of of preparedness I know that's a pretty general statement but this this particular money is for this specific project in and of itself OK thank you Representative Lunstrom you're recognized
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 30:58
for a motion. Sorry trying to recognize you there you make a motion that
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Representative Robin Lundstrum Unverified 31:04
we hold this until the treasurer can come back and enlighten us some more I think that would be helpful we have a motion to
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 31:10
hold the treasurer's budget do we have a second?
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 31:16
have a second all those in favor sayy aye oppose as's have it so just to remind our members this will be on again tomorrow. We are running really short on time if we're going to continue the current schedule. so any special language that anybody wants to propose and we'll have a comment about this at the end of the meeting regarding all special languagehood it needs to be to theblR staff today and we can talk about that some more at the end of the committee meeting.embers I think that brings us to item C without objection item C1 through 10 are all all have special language we'll refer all those without objection to special language seeing no objection and those are referred to special language and members that brings us down to bills to be considered yep you should have a handout there in front of you that says 26 supplementals 27 reappropriations we'll give everybody a moment to get that hand out in front of you we'll start with the supplementals we do those as one batch yeah so without objection we're gonna batch the supplementals this is house bill supplemental House Bill1086,1087,1088,1094 and Senate Bill69 at the top of your sheet. seeing no objections we will batch those are there any questions seeing no questions we
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 32:38
have a motion to do pass you have a second have a motion to second any discussion on the motion seeing
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 32:46
none all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes.embers now if you look at the reappropriations we'll take these individually batch these great without objection we're gonna batch these I'll give everybody a moment to object seeing no objections
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 33:03
are there any questions on the on the motion to adopt any of these see no questions have a motion secondcond any discussion on the motion seeing none all those
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 33:16
in favor say aye all those opposed motion carries members just so a ok right we got a few more so there should also be a list on your desk of bills there should be in the back of your packet. I will continue to improve in this process members I appreciate everyone's patience so back on bills ready for due pass we'll read these off individually starting with house bill 1006. House Bill1006 on page one members any questions you have a motion
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 33:55
secondcond you need to sketch on the motion all those in favor sayy aye post motion passes page6, House Bill1013 any questions have a motion do pass motion second see second any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes. House
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 34:17
Bill1016 on page six any questions? See no questions have a motion secondcond any discussion on the motion seeing none all those favor say aye posts motion passes page10, house bill 1033 are there any questions seeing none to see emotion Second any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye.embers now we're onto House Bill1048. this is on page 13 Any questions seeing none in your motion. Second, any que any discussion on the motion seeing none all those favor say aye opposed motion passes Next bill is House Bill1050. This is also on page 13 any questions seeing none
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 35:03
we have a motion secondcond any discussion on the motion seeing down all those in
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 35:10
favor say aye post motion passesext on to page 14 house spelled 1053 any questions seeing none we have a motion secondcond any any discussion on the motion seeing none all those ever say aye opposed motion passes House Bill1065. this is on page eight any questions seeing none do we have a motion secondcond any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes. House Bill1078 this is on page 22 house bill 1078 on page 22. Any questions? seeing none we have a motion secondcon, house
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 35:45
bill 1078 on page 22. Any questions? seeing none we have a motion second all those in favor any discussion on the motion
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 35:51
seeing none all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes Senate Bill2 this is on page one of your senate bills Senate bill 2 page1. Any questions?
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 36:04
seeing none do have a motion 2 any discussion on the motion seeing down all those in favor sayy aye opposed no motion passes
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 36:15
page seven senate bill 14 any questions? See none have a motion secondcond any discussion on the motion all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes senate bill 22 Senate Bill19 page8.enterville 19 page8. any questions? seeing none have a motion Second all those any discussion on the motion seeing on all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes.it bill 22 page10. Any questions seeing none have a motion secondcon, any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye page10 againenatevi 26 any questionsing none have a motion second any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor sayy aye oppose motion passes this isenate Bill32 page12. Any questions? seeing none of have a motion Second any discussion on the motion seeing none all those favor say aye senate bill42 page15. any questions on this bill seeing none do you have a motion secondcond any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye we're down to page 18 Senate Bill52. any questions? seeing none motion 2 any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes they were down to Senate Bill53 on page 18. Any questions? See none the motion 2 any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye and then the last is Senate Bill74 this is on page 22. Any questions? seeing none we have a motion second any discussion on
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 38:02
the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye opposed motion carries we've already adopted those right yeah senator senator Dismay you recognize us for a comment members I think we're we're coming towards the end of this meeting but I just want to kind of give everybody a heads up there's a little bit of confusion on when a bill needed to be filed to get it to completion especially if it had special language some of that was you know conversations with staff and just not understanding that there were no not going to be any supplemental calendars for instance so I just want everyone to be aware that there are bills being filed now and if they had in in special language I think that's going to be fouled later we want to adhere to what our normal practice is is which we hear items with special language and special language and items with personnel and personnel and so I would ask that tomorrow we show a little grace on those because of the misunderstanding and we look to suspend the rules in special language so those can be brought up my request to the members that have those types of items if you can get those to staff sooner than later and we will go ahead and send those out so members have a period of time to review what those items are so as soon as we get them we'll forward them to members so that no one's being caught off guard again there was a misunderstanding this is hopefully going to fix that we have Bill Spot being filed today with special language and special language that would be filed today this will allow those to be heard and be very transparent about it OK but it will require a suspension of the rules in the special language subcommittee and and to be clear members if you're not on that committee
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 39:39
you'll need to find someone on the committee to ask for that request so you have to be on the committee to ask for suspension of the rules so if you're out there with something that you're expecting to file today has to have be ablR today and then you'll have to find a member on special language to suspend the rules to make a motion suspend the rules senator Irvin you recognized
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Senator Missy Irvin Unverified 39:59
for a question thank you Mr Chair. I just would like to release my hold on HB1064. thank you thank
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 40:05
you senator members are there any other questions about the process over the next 24 hours around personnel or special language any other comments any other business
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Speaker 9 40:16
seeing none of this meeting is adjourned
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Agenda

A. Call to Order

6:14

B. Reports and Communications

6:14

C. Member Bills and Amendments

31:38

D. Consideration of Bills Referred to Joint Budget (House and Senate Captions)

31:55

E. Other Business

40:17

F. Adjournment

40:18

Documents

TitleTypePagesSource
Agenda — JOINT BUDGET COMMITTEE, Apr 21, 2026 Agenda 2 Official source ↗
B.1 Special Language Report Exhibit 31 Official source ↗
B.2 ASP Health Funding Report Exhibit 2 Official source ↗
B.3 Treasurer JAR133 Exhibit 3 Official source ↗
C.1 HB1099 DHS-DDS · Member Bills and Amendments › HB1099 by Representative Ladyman – DHS-Division of Developmental Disabilities Exhibit 2 Official source ↗
C.10 JAP087 DFA · Member Bills and Amendments › Amendment JAP087 by Senator Hester to HB1051 – DFA Regulatory Exhibit 4 Official source ↗
C.2 CJW039 · Member Bills and Amendments › Amendment CJW039 by Senator Dismang to SB8 – Department of Commerce Exhibit 11 Official source ↗
C.3 CJW038 · Member Bills and Amendments › Amendment CJW038 by Representative Perry to SB7 – Department of Commerce-State Insurance Exhibit 4 Official source ↗
C.4 JAP084 · Member Bills and Amendments › Amendment JAP084 by Representative Vaught to HB1068 – Department of Finance and Administration Exhibit 4 Official source ↗
C.5 KMW094 · Member Bills and Amendments › Amendment KMW094 by Senator Irvin to HB1007 – Department of Education-Division of Elementary Exhibit 13 Official source ↗
C.6 UA-Divion of Ag Exhibit 3 Official source ↗
C.7 U of A Fayetteville Exhibit 3 Official source ↗
C.8 DJC040 Comm Correction Exhibit 3 Official source ↗
C.9 KMW090 HB1005 ED. Dept Exhibit 6 Official source ↗
House Captions 4 21 26 Exhibit 26 Official source ↗
Senate Captions 4 21 26 Exhibit 23 Official source ↗

Speakers

Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified
48 segments
Speaker 6
1 segment
Senator Matt McKee Unverified
1 segment
Speaker 18
6 segments
Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified
15 segments
Representative Robin Lundstrum Unverified
7 segments
Speaker 31
1 segment
Speaker 38
2 segments
Speaker 40
1 segment
Michael Harry Unverified
29 segments
Speaker 51
1 segment
Speaker 55
1 segment
Senator Joshua Bryant Chair Unverified
7 segments
Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified
12 segments
Senator Mark Johnson Unverified
23 segments
Speaker 78
1 segment
Speaker 58
2 segments
Representative Aaron Pilkington Unverified
5 segments
Senator Missy Irvin Unverified
1 segment
Speaker 9
1 segment