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Joint Budget Committee

April 21, 2026 ·9:00 AM ·Room A, MAC ·40:26
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Bill Title Sponsor Status
HB1005 · 2 mentions in agenda, transcript
Matched: “…Correction 9. Amendment KMW090 by Representative Walker to HB1005 – Department of Education 10. Amendment JAP087 by Senator H…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL YEAR. Joint Budget Committee Correctly enrolled and ordered transmitted to the Governor's …
HB1004 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…Fayetteville 8. Amendment DJC040 by Representative Unger to HB1004 – DOC-Division of Community Correction 9. Amendment KMW090…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS - DIVISION OF COMMUNITY CORRECTION APPROPRIATION FOR THE … Unger Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1007 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…and Administration 5. Amendment KMW094 by Senator Irvin to HB1007 – Department of Education-Division of Elementary and Second…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION - DIVISION OF ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION - … Joint Budget Committee Correctly enrolled and ordered transmitted to the Governor's …
HB1009 Act 118 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “on item B-1 is House Bill 1009 for the Department of Public Safety. That is also ready for…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL YEAR. Joint Budget Committee Notification that HB1009 is now Act 118
HB1011 Act 120 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…as amended if it's the will of the committee. The first is House Bill 1011, Department of Corrections. That is ready for a due pass as…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS - DIVISION OF CORRECTION APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 … Joint Budget Committee Notification that HB1011 is now Act 120
HB1017 Act 121 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “The second bill ready for do pass as amended on item B-1 is House Bill 1017, Department of Agriculture, Promotion Boards. Mr. Chair, it…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE - PROMOTION BOARDS APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL … Joint Budget Committee Notification that HB1017 is now Act 121
HB1034 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…Johnson 2. ASP - Health Funding Report dated March 2026 3. HB1034 - Treasurer of State–Operations Revised Letter dated April…”
AN ACT FOR THE OFFICE OF THE TREASURER OF STATE APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL … Joint Budget Committee Correctly enrolled and ordered transmitted to the Governor's …
HB1051 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ment of Education 10. Amendment JAP087 by Senator Hester to HB1051 – DFA Regulatory D. Consideration of Bills Referred to Join…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE & ADMINISTRATION - REGULATORY DIVISION APPROPRIATION FOR THE … Joint Budget Committee Correctly enrolled and ordered transmitted to the Governor's …
HB1068 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…aff Only'. 4. Amendment JAP084 by Representative Vaught to HB1068 – Department of Finance and Administration 5. Amendment KMW…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL YEAR. Joint Budget Committee Correctly enrolled and ordered transmitted to the Governor's …
HB1099 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…-Revised Amendment JAR133 C. Member Bills and Amendments 1. HB1099 by Representative Ladyman – DHS-Division of Developmental D…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES - DIVISION OF DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES SERVICES APPROPRIATION. Ladyman Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SB10 Act 130 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…ecial language agenda that is ready for do passes amended a Senate bill 10”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE - DIVISION OF WORKFORCE SERVICES APPROPRIATION FOR THE … Joint Budget Committee Notification that SB10 is now Act 130
SB41 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…riculture 7. Amendment HAR145 by Representative McKenzie to SB41 – U of A Fayetteville 8. Amendment DJC040 by Representative…”
AN ACT FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS - FAYETTEVILLE APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL YEAR. Joint Budget Committee DELIVERED TO GOVERNOR.
SB43 Act 136 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ublic School Fund 6. Amendment HAR144 by Senator Dismang to SB43 - University of Arkansas-Division of Agriculture 7. Amendme…”
AN ACT FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS - DIVISION OF AGRICULTURE APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 … Joint Budget Committee Notification that SB43 is now Act 136
SB7 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…of Commerce 3. Amendment CJW038 by Representative Perry to SB7 – Department of Commerce-State Insurance Department Note: A…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE - STATE INSURANCE DEPARTMENT APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 … Joint Budget Committee DELIVERED TO GOVERNOR.
SB8 Act 129 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ntal Disabilities 2. Amendment CJW039 by Senator Dismang to SB8 – Department of Commerce 3. Amendment CJW038 by Representat…”
AN ACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL YEAR. Joint Budget Committee Notification that SB8 is now Act 129

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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 6:00
members appreciate appreciate everybody being here this morning I want to start by recognizing a group are they in the audience yet okay we'll wait till they get in and then we'll do that members will start with B item B1 a
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Speaker 6 6:25
special committee report Senator McKee here you got the report Senator McKee you
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 6:31
recognize just a moment let me get to the right place and hit the
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Senator Matt McKee Unverified 6:41
right button Senator McKee you're recognized present the report thank you mr. chairman the special language committee met on Thursday April 16th and reports the following actions the subcommittee adopted nine amendments for governor's letter 7 and 30 number 14 number 20 to HB 1005 number 20 to HP 1007 number 22 number 23 number 24 number 25 and number 29 number 27 amendment sponsored by senator dismay pages 1 through 29 of the packet include all the attachments adopted by the subcommittee I move adoption of the report members we have a a
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 7:13
motion to adopt the report? Do we have a second? Have a second. All those in favor say aye. And then members, we need a motion to yeah, yeah, we just make we need a motion to do pass as amended. The bills that are on the report. We almost have this down, members. One moment.
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Speaker 18 7:35
So we're going to get through those individually. Mr. Chairman, thank you, Mr. Chairman. With the adoption of the personnel report, there are four items that are listed on that report that can go out due pass as amended if it's the will of the committee. The first is House Bill 1011, Department of Corrections. That is ready for a due pass as amended, Mr. Chairman.
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 7:54
Members, do we have any questions? Seeing no questions, do we have a motion? Seeing no motion, do we have a second? Any discussion on the motion? All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Passes.
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Speaker 18 8:06
The second bill ready for do pass as amended on item B-1 is House Bill 1017, Department of Agriculture, Promotion Boards. Mr. Chair, it's ready for a do pass as amended. Members, with
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 8:15
any questions, motion to do pass. Seeing a motion, we have a second. Second, all those in favor, say aye. Motion passes. Next, Mr. Chairman,
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Speaker 18 8:25
on item B-1 is House Bill 1009 for the Department of Public Safety. That is also ready for a do pass as amended. Members, do we
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 8:32
have any questions? Seeing no questions, do we have a motion? Second. All those in any any discussion on the motion seeing none all
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Speaker 18 8:43
those in favor say aye Motion passes and mr. Chairman the last bill on the purse The special language agenda that is ready for do passes amended a Senate bill 10
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 8:51
Department of Commerce Division of Workforce Services members, we have any questions See no question of a motion We have a question one moment Representing lunch from you're
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Representative Robin Lundstrum Unverified 9:02
recognized for a question. Thank you. I just a quick question I want to make sure are we spending increases in this budget I see an unemployment insurance modernization 10 million I just need an explanation of what are we spending 10 million dollars on this one from DFA
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 9:17
can come to the table answer that in in
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Speaker 31 9:24
order to up there he is if
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Representative Robin Lundstrum Unverified 9:38
you can just introduce yourself for the committee
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Speaker 38 9:45
when you get to the type Jim that's the secretary DFA I've also asked EWS or Commerce to come
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Representative Robin Lundstrum Unverified 9:54
up since it's their appropriation bill just a little explanation of what we're
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 9:59
spending 10 million dollars on and if you don't mind
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Speaker 40 10:04
introduce yourself for the committee just for the record good morning Allison Hatfield chief of
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Speaker 38 10:08
staff department of commerce this is a continuation of a previously approved peer appropriation so we're not we're not increasing anything we're actually just continuing into next
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Representative Robin Lundstrum Unverified 10:15
year I believe okay that helps I we're spending a lot of money up here and I just want to know we're not increasing anything this is what we currently have a lot of continuing yes okay yes thank you that helps a bunch yes all right thank you and i'm getting some nods behind you that that's good all right that's where
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 10:35
the real answers are that's what i've heard all right thank you members do we have any more questions seeing none do we have a motion we have a second any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 10:46
members that should bring us down to item two this is a report just for reporting purposes only is that correct? So any questions on the report? Seeing none, we'll move on to item three. If we could have somebody from the treasurer's department come up to address any questions. Yeah, while we're sitting here, I want to make an announcement. There's a relatively large group that is approached from the back, and y'all are making quite the impression on us here as an audience today, so I want to make sure we recognize you. This is folks from the, this is AR STEM Day at the Capitol. So these are students from East Initiative Program at five schools across the state. And they're joining us to talk about the importance of STEM education here at the Capitol and the East Program. So they're exhibiting up in the rotunda until 2 p.m. So if you get a chance, please go by and visit with these folks. A lot of good information there. If you don't know, East is an educated, accelerated by service and technology is what it stands for. It's a 30-year-old arkansas founded and not in base non-profit educational programs supporting over 235 arkansas schools that empower students to solve real world problems in their community using technology and project-based learning so we have people here today from hot springs junior academy friendship aspire academy southeast middle school palm bluff there we go prairie grove high school batesville high school charter and then buffalo island high school so if you can members welcome these folks here today to visit us. Appreciate y'all being here today and taking the time to come and visit. If you don't mind, just announce your name for the committee so we
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Michael Harry Unverified 12:42
can know for the record who you are. Thank you, Mr.
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 12:46
Chair. Michael Harry with the Office of the Treasurer. Yeah, if you could, if you could just explain the letter. I think
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Michael Harry Unverified 12:52
there's some members that may have some questions. Give us an explanation of what we're looking at. Okay, yeah, briefly, it's changed from our original letter through some discussion with several members. We reduced the ask for salaries down to, we're capping it at 10% of the current budget.
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Speaker 51 13:07
That was down from our original request. I think it was like 19.8% or something like
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 13:13
that. Okay, so we reduced from 19.8% down to 10%. it's
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Speaker 55 13:18
a 10% cap. That is correct, yeah. Okay.
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Senator Joshua Bryant Chair Unverified 13:21
Members, we do have some questions. Senator Bryant, you recognize? Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just appreciate you listening to the concerns of the body. I was just looking through, and I got a lot of information I gathered from BLR, and I noticed the majority of the money, the raises that you received since Treasury's changed hands constitutionally, up to 33% raise to one individual all the way down to 2% to some of your lowest paid. I look at it as it's kind of a little bit lopsided as far as the C-suite getting 20-plus percent raises and maybe the workforce getting less. With this raise, with this money that you're asking for, what is the majority of that? Where are those raises going to? Are you going to max out your C-suite or are you going to put it towards your lower?
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Michael Harry Unverified 14:14
workforce? I honestly don't know. That has not been discussed as far as who's getting the bulk of whatever. I would imagine that we'll be able to spread it around quite a bit. Obviously, it's always up to the treasurer himself, but that's the intent. The intent of these, you know, the requests that we've made have been to retain the talent that we have. Just to address, you know, briefly the raises that you mentioned before, I'm not sure if the body's aware, but like we have an in-house investment team for investment managers that oversee our 11 and a half billion dollar portfolio. Based on the size of the portfolio and the return on investment that we've seen since Treasurer's taken off, it's almost, I'd say almost $600 million that we've gotten in. That's non-taxpayer money that's gone to the state itself. If we did not have the ability to retain that talent we would have to send that service out to a private firm based on the going rate of fees that these rates these firms usually charge the state would be paying out about 180 million dollars a year so i know it seems big but taken in context we're just trying to retain the valuable talent that we have okay so you don't know if
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Senator Joshua Bryant Chair Unverified 15:37
you're going to max out line items to your upper echelon versus inside the I do not know I know that the two of the investor managers themselves are already
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Michael Harry Unverified 15:47
maxed out so if we were to give them any money we'd have to come back to you all to ask for the ability to do that okay
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Senator Joshua Bryant Chair Unverified 15:54
because some of these I went from 120 to to 180 in the last three years which is you know almost 50 raise which you know in the world of government seems like they're doing really good so right we're trying to
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Michael Harry Unverified 16:05
compete you know much more than i think some of the other constitutionals we have to compete with the private sector quite a bit more dealing with investment firms and banking uh institutions that are that are trying to to take talent so i understand but you know taking within context we feel like it's been okay i appreciate that yeah thank you representative kavanaugh you're recognized thank you mr chair
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 16:30
i'm over here tonight and kind of along the lines that the senator was speaking of when you did your last raise, I'm going to be honest with you, there was one person that got almost a $50,000 raise. You have two individuals that almost got a $40,000 raise. Then you had a $30,000 raise and a $35,000 raise. Those are significant raises. And when you come to the table saying you need more money for raises and you can't tell us that it's going to go to somebody besides the ones that you just raised substantially, which, by the way, several make more than what the governor's staff does. I
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Michael Harry Unverified 17:11
have a little heartburn. I understand that, and hopefully I explained the reason why. Well,
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 17:16
I think what you explained the reason why was you're going to leave it up to the treasurer. You couldn't say that you were going to spread this additional monies to the other workers. Correct. And even though you have to have qualified people, i believe you've got qualified people when they're paid more than the executive branch and then secondly you still got to have workers quality workers whether or not they're in the top echelon or not but it appears to me that we're not taking care of those people it appears to me that we're taking care of a select few and what we've also done during this time is we have also reduced the hours of the office the office is closing earlier you've made it harder for citizens to be able to come in a tour so there's a lot of different things going on in that part in your office that gives me some heartburn that you need to raise more people's salary again okay and but you're still saying that you cannot say that this money is going to go to someone besides as the senator put top echelon well right
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Michael Harry Unverified 18:23
it's not my call to to determine who gets the the salary bump I will say, since the Treasurer's taken office, we've been able to retain, I believe, all but two individuals, and they both left for higher-paying jobs. With due respect, if I was getting
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Speaker 75 18:39
a 50% raise, you'd keep me, too.
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 18:44
So where is the Secretary at? How come he's not here to answer these
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Michael Harry Unverified 18:50
questions? The Treasurer, you mean? Yes, sorry. Well, I'm here at the table for him. It's my job to be
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 18:56
here at the table. But is it not also the treasurer's ability to be here to answer questions when he's the
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Michael Harry Unverified 19:04
one that has to make the decisions? Ultimately, I understand that, and any questions you may have can be sent to us, to him. We can talk offline about that. I feel like we've been pretty good about reaching out to individuals, and I understand that you have some questions, and that's understandable. This is a big decision for you all, but we'll get whatever answers you need.
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 19:24
Well, it would be nice to hear it come from the treasurer, is what I'm saying. We're here in a budget hearing. We're talking about his budget with questions only he can answer. So it would have been a good idea if the treasurer had come to
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Michael Harry Unverified 19:38
answer these questions himself. Thank you. In all honesty, the decisions to give the raises has not been made, basically, because we had no idea that we would even get this. I mean, this was a large ask. We understand that. So it wasn't until, hopefully, it passes that we would then have meaningful conversations about who would get a raise i mean
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 19:58
that's representative kavanaugh i did not mean to cut you off were you done with your line of questioning yeah senator
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 20:09
johnson you recognize thank you mr chairman um i i've heard this and the gentlemen have been very nice about coming to me and trying to explain it we had a little meeting but when i ask staff to get me the list of the salary increases provided within the treasurer's office since January of 2025. It was kind of lopsided. I noticed that the people at the top, the highest one was 33.20%. Remember, this is before this ask. This was the 2025 increases. And then they keep jumping up and jumping up. Your office already received $241,000 in additional salary for 2025, and one investment manager received $43,849 in raises and the other $48,305, and that's since March of 2025. So we're talking, you know, what, 13 months at the most. Now, chief deputy was given a $39,991 raise. Chief of Staff, a $39,991 raise. Chief Financial Officer, a $34,745 raise. And so since Mr. Thurston became treasurer, we're looking at, again, this is one of the numbers I get from our staff, $493,223 in raises. Now, I want to keep good people, but can you imagine what we'd be doing and we extrapolate all the way across not just state government but just even among the constitutional officers. I'm wondering would, and I also wish the treasurer was here, maybe he could just give me a straight-up answer, but would you guys go along with, or your boss go along, you think, with maybe some special language that caps the raises that people could receive from this appropriation And if some, you know, Jamie Dimon guy applies and wants to be your financial manager, we could maybe pay him more or something. I'm just, your logic makes perfect sense. But if we spread that around every deserving person in state government, you know, we couldn't pass a budget in here. And I'm just expecting the elected officials maybe to set a little bit better example of answering the questions. I appreciate very much Representative Kavanaugh's statement, and she said about heartburn. I mean, I had to take an extra NXIVM this morning because of the heartburn. So I'm not getting – perhaps we need to do some special language that would limit these raises to certain people and not us write a, you know, check for whatever that amount. I just said, you know, $493,223. Of course, we were over $800,000 before the amendment, but just get some more specifics. And that's a question. Do you think that Treasurer Thurston would be willing to do that, or is that something we need to sit down over a table and see what negotiating room we have, so to speak?
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Speaker 78 23:33
Yes, Senator, thank you. I would hope that throughout the conversations that we've had that
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Michael Harry Unverified 23:39
you've maybe taken away from that, that we have a willingness to work with you all. We understand that the importance of this committee and that you hold the purse strings for the state. So we would never turn down discussions with anyone here about
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Speaker 58 23:55
any concerns that you might have. Well, are you telling me that
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 24:00
while you're certainly willing to talk, you can't speculate on what the treasurer's answer would be to the question I just asked? No, no. I know for a fact that the treasurer would
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Michael Harry Unverified 24:10
more than happily sit down with anyone. No, that part I know he will.
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 24:15
I consider him my friend. I think he's a great guy. Okay, then maybe I don't understand your question. You speculate that he would agree to some kind of cap, either a percentage cap or I was even thinking if someone got a ridiculous, I won't say ridiculous, a double-digit percentage raise in 2025 that maybe they would not get a raise for the upcoming fiscal year or it would be capped at a certain amount. Where the people that are making, I mean, there's a couple here, 7.15%, 7.35%, 3.68% raise, that those people, perhaps, yeah, we'd be willing to see that their raises go up and more commensurate with what we're seeing for other folks, deserving folks all across state government. And you may say, I don't know, he's not here and you can't ask him, but I do need to get a feel as can we get an answer from him, either your best guess or something. Maybe he needs to come back tomorrow or something. Senator, I think
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 25:23
it's hard for him. Speaking for someone else, it may be difficult for him to say that. Yes, Mr. Chair. And we do have lots of questions
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 25:31
still in the queue, but do you want to try to
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Michael Harry Unverified 25:36
attempt to answer that question? Yeah, I do not believe that the treasurer would be opposed to conversations about a cap.
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 25:43
Would you be willing, excuse me, if I could just quickly wrap up, Mr. Chairman. Would you be willing to come back to us with some proposed special language or something that would give you some more money but also have some, you know, it wouldn't be what I consider a blank check to an individual?
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Speaker 58 26:05
well yes i mean if short
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Michael Harry Unverified 26:09
answer is yes you know um i do know that we're running short on on time
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 26:14
as far as this you know i promise you we'll get you a budget it may not be exactly the one you want but i promise you this this body will get you a budget i've heard that we don't we don't not fund constitutional officers well there was that little game and fish thing a year a couple years ago but but otherwise we tend to take care of business here but if you would visit with him i think we could do that i'm not trying to get you off but
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 26:37
there are quite a few people still in line for questions so representative bill continue recognizing thank you i'm i'm over here
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Representative Aaron Pilkington Unverified 26:45
um yeah i think to echo what my colleagues have said i think the concern is when we were here last time it was we needed additional funds for the investment team and then the money didn't go to investment team. Now you're asking us to trust you again. So I think trust me, bro, is not really a policy that I would like to follow when creating budgets here at the state. And then additionally, while I've got the mic, I'm curious, because if we pass this, we'll have the highest paid scheduler, your office will have the highest paid scheduler in the state more than the governor. Is the treasurer in demand that much that we need to pay his scheduler more than the governor's schedule? Because if they are, I seriously doubt the ability of the scheduler to not schedule him to be here today to
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Michael Harry Unverified 27:30
answer those questions? Well, traditionally speaking, the Constitutional officer doesn't appear at these types of meetings. I handle the day-to-day stuff. Our team handles the day-to-day stuff. The Treasurer doesn't shirk from anyone. I can guarantee you that. I understand the heartburn about the salaries. I will say that when we came to you all in the last session, it was to adopt the pay plan that was developed by the governor. These are not our numbers. We didn't come up with these out of thin air. We asked to be included on the governor's pay plan. We went through the work to have our positions graded in accordance with what the governor's office had put out. So we're not trying to play any tricks. Our investment team got raises, and they needed it. They hadn't been – we don't feel that –
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Representative Aaron Pilkington Unverified 28:24
Were they smaller or larger than the C-suite staff? I'm sorry? The raises to the investment team, were they smaller raises than it was to the C-suite staff? I mean, your team – I mean, listen, your investment team is the machine that produces the returns that we like to see and we're very happy about. Okay. But I just feel like the president was set last time when you asked for additional funds that the money was to go to them. It did not – very little went to them compared to other people in that office. And now the concern is – and I understand you can't speak for the treasurer. I think Representative Kavanaugh and Senator Johnson both asked this question. I think we're just being a dead horse maybe now. But we really need the treasurer to put in writing or something so that we can make sure that the money actually goes to the team it needs to go to and not to schedulers and chiefs of staff that are not actually being part of this investment team that is the engine that's producing the returns that we want. So we can leave it at that because I think we're going to hold this.
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 29:27
So thank you. Members, there will be time for discussion, so I just want to encourage members to stick to questions if we can at this point. Representative
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Representative Robin Lundstrum Unverified 29:39
Lundstrom, you're recognized. I'd like to make a motion at the proper time that we hold this budget until we can get some
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 29:45
more information and the treasurer can come to the meeting. Representative Kavanaugh, you're in line for a question. Do you
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 29:51
want to take a question before that motion? Representative Kavanaugh, you recognize. Thank you. I'm going to switch to one other thing. One other appropriation that you asked for was $150,000 for their preparedness and safety. Back in 2024, we gave money for that, $150,000, I believe, and we were told that was going to have to be a one-time appropriation. Why are we needing it again a year and a
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Michael Harry Unverified 30:16
half later, two years? That is to help with our adjustment to the switch over from ASIS to the S4 HANA. We have to upgrade our IT and our IT security. We're going to a cloud-based system away from the server-based system. So that money is going to pay for that.
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 30:33
Well, what did the $150,000 do that was supposed to be for that also?
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Michael Harry Unverified 30:38
I don't believe that that was for this particular thing. That was used for other areas of preparedness. I know that's a pretty general statement, but this particular money is for this specific project in and of itself. Okay, thank you. Representative Lundstrom,
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 30:53
you're recognized for a motion. Sorry, trying to recognize you. I make
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Representative Robin Lundstrum Unverified 30:59
a motion that we hold this until the treasurer can come back and enlighten us some more.
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 31:04
I think that would be helpful. We have a motion to hold the treasurer's budget. Do we have a second? I
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 31:13
have a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? The ayes have it. So just a reminder, members, this will be on again tomorrow. We are running really short on time if we're going to continue the current schedule. So any special language that anybody wants to propose, and we'll have a comment about this at the end of the meeting regarding all special language, it needs to be to the BLR staff today. And we can talk about that some more at the end of the committee meeting. Members, I think that brings us to item C. Without objection, item C, 1 through 10, all have special language. We'll refer all those without objection to special language. Seeing no objection, those are referred to special language. And, members, that brings us down to bills to be considered. You should have a handout there in front of you that says 26 supplementals, 27 reappropriations. I'll give everybody a moment to get that handout in front of you. we'll start uh with the supplementals we do those as one batch yeah so without objection we're going to batch the supplementals this is house bill supplemental house bill 1086 1087 1088 1094 and senate bill 69 at the top of your sheet seeing no objections we will batch those are there any questions seeing
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 32:33
no questions we have a motion to do pass we have a second i have a motion second discussion on the
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 32:41
motion seeing none all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes members now if you look at the reappropriations we'll take these individually batch these great without objection we're going to batch these i'll give everybody a moment to object seeing no objections
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 32:58
uh are there any questions on the mo on the motion to adopt any of these see no questions i have a motion second any discussion on the motion seeing none
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 33:10
all those in favor say aye all those opposed motion carries members just so okay all right we got a few more so there should also be a list on your desk of bills there should be in the back your packet i will continue to improve in this process members i appreciate everyone's patience so back on bills uh ready for due pass we'll read these off individually start starting with house bill 1006 house bill 1006 on page one members uh any questions we have a motion second
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 33:50
any discussion on the motion all those in favor say aye aye opposed motion passes page six house bill 1013 any questions we have a motion do pass motion second see a second any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes house bill
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 34:12
1016 on page six any questions seeing no questions have a motion second any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes page 10 house bill 1033 are there any questions seeing none to see a motion second any discussion on the motion seeing none all those favor say aye members now we're on to house bill 1048 this is on page 13 any questions seeing none in your motion second any question Any discussion on the motion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes. Next bill is House Bill 1050. This is also on page 13. Any questions? Seeing none,
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 34:58
we have a motion. Second? Any discussion on the motion? Seeing none, all those in
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 35:05
favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes. Next on to page 14, House Bill 1053. Any questions? Seeing none, we have a motion. Second? Any discussion on the motion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes. House Bill 1065, this is on page 18. Any questions? Seeing none, do we have a motion? Second. Any discussion on the motion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes. House Bill 1078, this is on page 22. House Bill 1078 on page 22. Any questions? Seeing none,
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 35:40
do we have a motion? Second. All those in favor, any discussion on the motion? Seeing none, all those
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 35:46
in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes. Senate Bill 2, this is on page 1 of your Senate bills. Senate Bill 2, page 1, any questions? Seeing none, do I have a motion? Second? Any discussion on
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 36:00
the motion? Seeing none, all those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? No. Motion passes. Page 7, Senate Bill 14, any questions? Seeing none,
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 36:10
do I have a motion? second any discussion on the motion all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes this is Senate bill 22 Senate bill 19 page 8 Senate bill 19 page 8 any questions seeing none have a motion second all those any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes Senate bill 22 page 10 any questions seeing none have a motion second any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye uh page 10 again senate bill 26 uh any questions seeing none have a motion second any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes this is senate bill 32 page 12. any questions seeing none uh have a motion Second. Any discussion on the motion? Seeing none. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Senate Bill 42, page 15. Any questions on this bill? Seeing none. Do I have a motion? Second. Any discussion on the motion? Seeing none. All those in favor say aye. Aye. We're down to page 18, Senate Bill 52. Any questions? Seeing none. motion second any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye opposed motion passes they were down to senate bill 53 on page 18 any questions seeing none uh motion second any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in favor say aye and then the last is senate bill 74 this is on page 22 any questions seeing none we have motion second any discussion on the motion seeing none all those in
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 37:57
favor say aye opposed motion carries we've already adopted those right yeah so senator senator dismay you recognize for a call members um i think we're we're coming towards the end of this meeting but i just want to kind of give everybody a heads up there's a little bit of confusion on when a bill needed to be filed to get it to completion especially if it had special language uh some of that was you know conversations with staff and just not understanding that there were not going to be any supplemental calendars, for instance. So I just want everyone to be aware that there are bills being filed now, and special language I think that's going to be filed later. We want to adhere to what our normal practice is, which we hear items with special language and special language and items with personnel and personnel. And so I would ask that tomorrow we show a little grace on those because of the misunderstanding, and we look to suspend the rules in special language so those can be brought up my request to the members that have those types of items if you can get those to staff sooner than later and we will go ahead and send those out so members have a period of time to review what those items are so as soon as we get them we'll forward them to members so that no one's being caught off guard again there was a misunderstanding this is hopefully going to fix that we have bills being filed today with special language and special language that would be filed today this will allow those to be heard and be very transparent about it okay but it will require a suspension of the rules in the special language subcommittee and to be clear members
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 39:32
if you're not on that committee you'll need to find someone on the committee to ask for that request so you have to be on the committee to ask for suspension of the rules so if you're out there with something that you're expecting to file today you have to have be a blr today and then you'll have to find a member on special language to suspend the rules to make a motion to spin the rules. Senator Irvin, you're recognized
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Senator Missy Irvin Unverified 39:54
for a question. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just would like to release my hold on HB
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Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified 40:00
1064. Thank you. Thank you, Senator. Members, are there any other questions about the process over the next 24 hours around personnel or special language? Any other comments?
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Speaker 9 40:11
Any other business? Seeing none, this meeting is adjourned.
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Thank you.
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Agenda

A. Call to Order

6:14

B. Reports and Communications

6:14

C. Member Bills and Amendments

31:38

D. Consideration of Bills Referred to Joint Budget (House and Senate Captions)

31:55

E. Other Business

40:17

F. Adjournment

40:18

Documents

TitleTypePagesSource
Agenda — JOINT BUDGET COMMITTEE, Apr 21, 2026 Agenda 2 Official source ↗
B.1 Special Language Report Exhibit 31 Official source ↗
B.2 ASP Health Funding Report Exhibit 2 needs OCR Official source ↗
B.3 Treasurer JAR133 Exhibit 3 Official source ↗
C.1 HB1099 DHS-DDS · Member Bills and Amendments › HB1099 by Representative Ladyman – DHS-Division of Developmental Disabilities Exhibit 2 needs OCR Official source ↗
C.10 JAP087 DFA · Member Bills and Amendments › Amendment JAP087 by Senator Hester to HB1051 – DFA Regulatory Exhibit 4 Official source ↗
C.2 CJW039 · Member Bills and Amendments › Amendment CJW039 by Senator Dismang to SB8 – Department of Commerce Exhibit 11 Official source ↗
C.3 CJW038 · Member Bills and Amendments › Amendment CJW038 by Representative Perry to SB7 – Department of Commerce-State Insurance Exhibit 4 Official source ↗
C.4 JAP084 · Member Bills and Amendments › Amendment JAP084 by Representative Vaught to HB1068 – Department of Finance and Administration Exhibit 4 Official source ↗
C.5 KMW094 · Member Bills and Amendments › Amendment KMW094 by Senator Irvin to HB1007 – Department of Education-Division of Elementary Exhibit 13 Official source ↗
C.6 UA-Divion of Ag Exhibit 3 needs OCR Official source ↗
C.7 U of A Fayetteville Exhibit 3 needs OCR Official source ↗
C.8 DJC040 Comm Correction Exhibit 3 needs OCR Official source ↗
C.9 KMW090 HB1005 ED. Dept Exhibit 6 needs OCR Official source ↗
House Captions 4 21 26 Exhibit 26 Official source ↗
Senate Captions 4 21 26 Exhibit 23 Official source ↗

Speakers

Representative Lee Johnson Chair Unverified
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Senator Matt McKee Unverified
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified
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Representative Robin Lundstrum Unverified
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Michael Harry Unverified
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Senator Joshua Bryant Chair Unverified
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified
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Representative Aaron Pilkington Unverified
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Senator Missy Irvin Unverified
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