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April 21, 2026 ·15 Minutes Upon Adjournment of Joint Budget ·Room A, MAC ·27:43
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SB30 Act 134 · 5 mentions in agenda, chapter, transcript
Matched: “…S. Evans, ex officio A. Call to Order Member Amendments: B. SB30- Office of the Governor Amendment JAR144 Senator Rice Const…”
AN ACT FOR THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL YEAR. Joint Budget Committee Notification that SB30 is now Act 134
SB29 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “D. SB29- Lieutenant Governor - Revised letter dated April 17, 2026,…”
AN ACT FOR THE OFFICE OF THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR APPROPRIATION FOR THE 2026-2027 FISCAL YEAR. Joint Budget Committee DELIVERED TO GOVERNOR.
SB51 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “C. SB51- Auditor of the State - Revised letter dated April 17, 2026…”
AN ACT FOR THE AUDITOR OF STATE - OPERATIONS AND UNCLAIMED PROPERTY PROGRAM APPROPRIATION FOR … Joint Budget Committee DELIVERED TO GOVERNOR.

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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 3:02
right members we're gonna go ahead and call this meeting to order so today we're going to take some of these items out of order without objection we're gonna go ahead and handle items C and D first and then come back to item B. So with that we will all'll turn it over to Tony Robinson for item C. thank you
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Speaker 5 3:24
madam Chair. Item C beginning on page nine is a revised letter in a minute amendment for the auditor's office after the previous letter and amendment was rereferred from JBC. a summary of the changes requested by the auditor in the new letter can be seen on the spreadsheet on page 17. They have lowered their requested increases in regular salary and match in both their operations and UCp appropriations down to 10%. regulargular salaries and match for
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Chair Unverified 3:51
operations is now $245,490 regular salary and match for UCp is now at $109,711. Members do we have any questions on item
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 4:08
right seeing none do I have a motion for approval and a second a motion in a second. is there any discussion? all those in favor please say aye all opposed no motion carries Itemd Madam Chairman
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Speaker 5 4:22
itemd on page nine is a revised letter and amendment from the lieutenant governor's office after being rereferred from JBC. This revised request keeps their positions atlanta at maximums with requested increases shown on the spreadsheet on page 23. The spreadsheet also details the
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Chair Unverified 4:39
revised requests for regular salary and match appropriations totalling $99,876 or 17.43%. all right members do we have any
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 4:49
questions on itemd? seeing none do I have a motion for approval? motion in a second any discussion? oh sorry, hang on.s discussion umpeaker Evans you're recognized oh oky all right any other discussion seeing none all those in favor please say aye opposed no motion carries. Thank you guys and now we're going to move to item B. madam Chairman item B beginning
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Speaker 5 5:19
on page three is a memberber amendment from Senator Rice that will amend Senate Bill30 for the governor's office. The amendment will remove one governor senior advisor position at an SPC11 lowering the total authorized positions from59 to58. The amendment will also lower
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Chair Unverified 5:41
regular salaries by $189,211 and matching by75,684 dollars for a total reduction of $264,895. right senator Rri, you are recognized you want me to present from here or go to the table well we're just having a discussion
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 5:50
if you would you can do it at your at your seat that's great.
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Speaker 16 5:52
I'm sorry I didn't hear you at your seat is great
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 5:57
where you're at you ready for me to present? Yes ready for discussion yes sir
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Senator Terry Rice Unverified 6:11
madam I brought this amendment to SB30 to the joint budgetgetittee which is the process available the amendment is necessitated because many Arkansas citizens from around the state feel the former secretary of correctionssiyuri has broken the public trust with them and has been disingenuous in his former title Secretary oforrections and the continuing department oforrection process on multiple issues in the 18 years I've been in the legislature we have required state employees to testify as co-chairs of joint performance reviewpresentative cozart and myself agreed Mr Puri needed to answer legislators questions regarding his corrections work. the procurement of the Franklin County land had zero public input Mr. Profuri publicly promised transparency and communication would follow it did not I don't believe that one of you would invest your own money in a project that didn't even have the promise of water yet the legislature wanted to invest millions of taxpayer dollars in a project ripe with basic questions that would drive cost up tremendously and not have a turning back point just to obligate more money without taxpayer's voice as allowed by the Arkansas constitution which we all took an oath to uphold the board of corrections members asked Mr Profiri to share his intended plans as secretary and they would work with him he ignored multiple attempts a master, a major trust breaker was Mr Purry's refusal to appear as requested by both chairs at the September joint performanceviewittee meeting. this is exactly the mission that joint performance revieww was set up to handle and I'll briefly tell you the duties the joint performance review committee which I'm on abbreviate as JPR shall have the authority in responsibility one to make random and periodic performance review of specific government programs and agencies 2 conduct investigations in such specific problem areas of the administration of state government as may be brought to the attention of or as determined by the JPR committee or the co-chairs of JPR3, refer specific problems regarding the operation of state government to appropriate interim committees of the general assembly for continuing study4 conduct hearings on citizen complaints and views regarding the operation of state government and serve as a forum for citizens to air their complaints and suggestions regarding the operation of state government review the expenditures of the various agencies departments and programs of state government to assure that they are being administered in accordance with legislative intent and being administered in such manner as to provide the taxpayer with the greatest service at the lowest reasonable cost number6 make such reports and recommendations to the governor the general assembly and the legislative council as the JPR committee deems necessary or appropriate to promote more effective and efficient operation of state government and asea was added investigation investigate allegations of violations of of election law referred by the attorney general's office to finish up respectful factual presentations were made by the public in JPR September committee two agency heads did attend but multiple times they said they didn't know or weren't sure of important questions Mr Profuia as former Secretary ofrections should have been there to answer legislators questions as I was told during that meeting he was in the capital had been seen in the hall at the same time he didn't even reply and chose a snub legislator's questions the lack of support from legislators on the JPR committee to issue a subpoena is troubling for a second separate legislative branch that has the right and authority to do that the largest trust breaker was former secretary oforrections Joeerories pulling a major corrections contract that had been worked on for a year and a half. did he favor someone else was just scrapping the committee's vast time spent working on this and replacing them with other people for what he thought would be a predetermined outcome I don't know he wouldn't answer it resulted in costing Arkansas taxpayers over350 million dollars I am told not the300 I said previously as Secretary ofrections at that time Joeerfury is accountable for what he caused and the lack of want or will to work with others reyha hasn't worked for him it doesn't automatically produce wisdom $1 million already spent on compensation with what results 35 $0 million wasted almost $1 million spent by veneer for what at least the department oforrections refused their billing Arkansas for liquor first classs airfare and hotel upgrades even Donald Trump replaces appointees when they prove they can't perform duty successfully let's make a statement that we don't want to continue spending $265,000 a year on bad results and demand public testimony to the legislature's joint performance committee if Joeuri is to continue as a state employee I would appreciate a yes vote for the Arkansas taxpayers you represent
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 12:56
thank you madam chair ir any other discussion
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 13:10
representative Langin you're recognized thank you madam chairir
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Representative Lane Jean Unverified 13:12
I don't have discussion I I was was either talked have the governor's office or the department oforrections come to the table if anybody's here. someone from
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 13:26
the governor's office corrections or DFfa come to the table I'm sure you have
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Senator Terry Rice Unverified 13:32
a a board member here I see
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 13:48
Representative Yeahpresentative Jean you got somebody with the department of corrections is
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Speaker 32 13:55
standing up that may want to come forward well that's fine. come to come to the table and
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 13:59
I've got a few questions before we start in on the questions if that's ok that's fine if you'll state your name and who you're with for the record
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Lee Watson Unverified 14:18
please Jimhudson secretarydFfa My name is Lee Watson. I serve on
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 14:29
the board of corrections. just before we start in on questions are are you here on behalf of the board of corrections? have they given you permission to speak on their behalf so you're just here as an independent person yesitize ok senator can recognize Senator Disming real quick. I'll come back to you if it's in the line of questioning is with this yeah yeah yeah you're recognized senator Disma. I'm just going to make sure so
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Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified 15:00
we've asked a board of corrections to come up and talk about a governor's office position one of the same board members that was adamant that the governor not have influence on their position. I mean that I I'm not sure what value he's going to bring but if we're going to just have back and forths that aren't tied to the position then I don't think that's the purview of this subcommittee or really even JbC I mean if we just want to air laundry about how he doesn't like a man then I don't think that's appropriate for this committee and so whatever he does speak to I mean I think we need to be pretty restrained on what we allowed them to do. I think there is definitely irony in someone from the board of corrections wanting to talk about the governors hire
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Senator Bart Hester Unverified 15:53
Senator hester you're recognized Yeah. so you you're not speaking on behalf of the board. No, they did not ask you to come so you said just a second ago you were here as a citizen is that correct yes we don't allow citizens to give testimony and and and budget committee so if if you're here on behalf of the board, maybe that's different but if you're here as a citizen we don't we don't take testimony in that committee. I responded only because the
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Lee Watson Unverified 16:23
question was asked if anybody was here from you know with the department so I just want to make sure I
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Speaker 48 16:31
made my presence known I understand Senator Desmayne
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Representative Jim Wooten Unverified 16:42
and Senator Hester but Lee Watson is a member of a state board now whether or not he's appearing on behalf of the board it to me is not an issue now I'm sick and tired of the governor's office running the show and they not even show up today and this is not right for the people of Arkansas and Mr Watson is on the board he has suggestions he has comments if he wants to make them if they're relevant to the matter that senator Rice has brought before us. I think he should be permitted to
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Speaker 23 17:34
do so Representative geneanni you're recognized thank you madam chair
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Representative Lane Jean Unverified 17:39
I just got a few questions I don't know if Mr Hudson or Mr. Watson can answer this you know and and and I really would have liked somebody what is the timeline for Mrerfury which I I support taking over the department of corrections you know there's been some shift on the board. I don't think the there's any objection to the board or certainly a majority of the board to hire him what are we waiting on will he be head of the department of corrections by July 1 of 2026 which this this bill doesn't affect it until after that Nobody's told me what the plan. I've asked several members nobody knows. I just want to know what the plan is of of Mr Purry's return to the department of I can't
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Speaker 53 18:34
speak to any sort of timeline about that
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Speaker 55 18:38
what I can say is Secretary Wallace she is a secretary and she will continue to be a secretary until the governor decides
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Speaker 56 18:45
she's not the secretary so you've heard no plans of
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Speaker 58 18:50
the timeline of when he returns. I've been part of no
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Speaker 59 18:54
discussions about that no sir and but in
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Speaker 56 18:57
the in the interim he continues to
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Representative Lane Jean Unverified 19:01
do his job as an adviser to the governor I understand that Mr Watson do you have any idea of of anything you've heard on the board? not on that topic no not on that topic so we have no timeline when he'll we'll return to the department oforrections just that hadn't been discussed and if it's got anything to do with the lawsuit we got a new we got a new board now the lawsuit could have been dropped has that has that been discussed
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Speaker 61 19:36
publicly it has and that's still
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Representative Lane Jean Unverified 19:39
in the courts at this time well I guess I've got all I'm gonna get.ppreciate it. thank you
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 19:45
madam chairir sir Senator Johnson, you're recognized thank
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 19:49
you madam chairir. So I heard a lot of don't I don't know who to ask this question to but the performance in his current job is what's pertinent to the discussion and all the discussion that was was given was a job that he doesn't currently hold I think that's irrelevancy right now it's it's not what what was done before it's what he's doing now as an advisor that's pertinent to this discussion Representative Kavanaugh you're recognized thank you madam chairir and
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 20:33
I'm not sure who can answer this. I'm going to ask this question best way I know how. If this amendment were to pass and the job was to go away and the the appropriation for the money. there's nothing that prohibits the governor from hiring him as another position. Is that not correct and still you interpret that correctly OK I just want to make sure I understand even if this were to pass, he could still have a job in the governor's staff if she show shows and it's in her her purview to hire who she wants.
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Speaker 55 21:09
thank you and just to make sure if I may just that members are clear the governor is making no request of you to change her budget she's she's not asking anything of you other than to continue to approve that which you've prove approved before and she consistently manages her budget conservatively she returned last time over a million dollars of her budget back to the state treasurer she is a shrewd and effective manager of her office's budget.
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 21:47
right seeing no other discussion or questions right what's the will of the committee? I mean I don't motion in a second. any other discussion? all those in favor please say aye opposed no. Yeah the no's have it
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Speaker 12 22:21
Do I see five hands right
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Speaker 4 22:45
roll call madam chair starting with senator Petty
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Speaker 73 22:53
Senator Blake Johnson Senator Bryant Senator Caldwell Senator Hill Senatorledding Senator dismaying Senator Hester Representative Kavanaugh Representative Jeremiah Moore. Representative Richmond Representativeholcomb Representative McCullough Representative clowney Representative Jean Representative Evans
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 25:04
right members motion fails we will move on to item E. right
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Speaker 5 25:16
madam Chairman moving on to item E this is regular business items item E on page 25 is a request from OPm for the reinstatement of a labor market rate at the crime lab. The request will allow Crime lab to pay up to300,000 dollars to medical examiners working within the facility the estimated cost to increase all employees excuse me madam chairman so they're taking they're taking the new employees there's two new employees up to300,000. OPm has recommended the requested rate and the action requires approval in lieu of review by the right is there any discussion or questions
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 25:56
on this Senator Bryant you're recognized like he may just for staff are the existing employees medical
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Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified 26:06
examiners already above300,000. I think I would let Ka barnhill into that yes sir the300,000 dollars rate was approved last year in the existing examiners are already there. Are about this is for two new ones they are nonemployees as of yet they're trying to recruit these people to the state any other questions seeing
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 26:29
none do I have a motion for approval? got a motion in a second any discussion? all those in favor please say aye opposed no motion carries
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Speaker 5 26:44
item F Madam Chairman item F on page 29 is a request from AU Jonesboro for 11 positions from the higher ed central central growth pool the request for positions is tied to the opening of the new school for eterinary medicine. they're requesting one clinic director, one communication specialist, computer support technician, a lab manager, administrator, a lab coordinator,4 lab technicians, mental health clinician and one project program administrator the department of higher Education has recommended the requested titles and positions sorry ok
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Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified 27:23
all right any questions on this seeing none do we have a motion that this is reviewed motion in a second any discussion? all those in favor please say aye opposed no motion carries. right members that wraps up all of the business on
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Agenda

A. Call to Order

3:05

Member Amendments:

5:11

B. SB30- Office of the Governor Amendment JAR144 Senator Rice

5:14

Constitutional Officer Requests:

3:02

C. SB51- Auditor of the State - Revised letter dated April 17, 2026, from Auditor Dennis Milligan Revised Amendment JAR136

3:24

D. SB29- Lieutenant Governor - Revised letter dated April 17, 2026, from Lieutenant Governor Leslie Rutledge Revised Amendment JAR134

4:15

Regular Business:

25:03

E. Request from Department of Public Safety, Division of Arkansas State Crime Lab for the re-establishment of a Labor Market Rate for Medical Examiners. - Requires Approval (Col. Mike Hagar, Secretary)

25:12

F. Request from Arkansas State University-Jonesboro for eleven (11) positions from the Higher Education Central Growth Pool established in AR Code 6-63-319. (Dr. Todd Shields, Chancellor)

26:38

Speakers

Senator Breanne Davis Chair Unverified
24 segments
Speaker 5
8 segments
Chair Unverified
3 segments
Speaker 16
1 segment
Senator Terry Rice Unverified
15 segments
Senator Mark Johnson Unverified
4 segments
Representative Lane Jean Unverified
6 segments
Speaker 32
1 segment
Lee Watson Unverified
2 segments
Senator Jonathan Dismang Unverified
2 segments
Senator Bart Hester Unverified
1 segment
Speaker 48
1 segment
Representative Jim Wooten Unverified
3 segments
Speaker 23
1 segment
Speaker 53
1 segment
Speaker 55
2 segments
Speaker 56
2 segments
Speaker 58
1 segment
Speaker 59
1 segment
Speaker 61
1 segment
Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified
2 segments
Speaker 12
1 segment
Speaker 4
1 segment
Speaker 73
2 segments
Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified
2 segments