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March 4, 2025 ·10:30 AM ·OSC ·1:36:24
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Bills discussed (46)

Bill Title Sponsor Status
HB1217 Act 267 · 3 mentions in agenda, chapter, transcript
Matched: “…TO AMEND PROVISIONS OF ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION, AMENDMENT 51. HB1217 Nazarenko TO ESTABLISH THE INTERSTATE MASSAGE COMPACT IN AR…”
TO ESTABLISH THE INTERSTATE MASSAGE COMPACT IN ARKANSAS. Nazarenko Notification that HB1217 is now Act 267
HB1499 Act 288 · 3 mentions in agenda, chapter, transcript
Matched: “…TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE HEALTHY LIFESTYLE PROGRAM. HB1499 Ray TO AMEND THE SALE AND PURCHASE PROCEDURE FOR PUBLIC PRO…”
TO AMEND THE SALE AND PURCHASE PROCEDURE FOR PUBLIC PROPERTY. Ray Notification that HB1499 is now Act 288
HB1379 Act 287 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1379 Beaty Jr. TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE SPECIAL AUTHORIZA…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE SPECIAL AUTHORIZATION FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR MEALS AND LODGING WHILE … Beaty Jr. Notification that HB1379 is now Act 287
HB1556 Act 260 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1556 Rye TO AMEND ARKANSAS MUSIC APPRECIATION DAY; AND TO CHANGE…”
TO AMEND ARKANSAS MUSIC APPRECIATION DAY; AND TO CHANGE THE DATE ON WHICH ARKANSAS MUSIC … Rye Notification that HB1556 is now Act 260
SB283 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB283 K. Hammer TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING UNCLAIMED PROPERTY; A…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING UNCLAIMED PROPERTY; AND TO PROVIDE THAT CERTAIN NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS ARE … K. Hammer Sine Die adjournment
SB293 Act 487 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…IONS ARE EXEMPT FROM THE LAW CONCERNING UNCLAIMED PROPERTY. SB293 K. Hammer TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE REQUIRED POSTINGS…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE REQUIRED POSTINGS AT A POLLING SITE; AND TO AMEND … K. Hammer Notification that SB293 is now Act 487
SB304 Act 372 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB304 M. McKee TO ALLOW A CLASS OF REGISTERED VOTERS THAT HAVE CH…”
TO ALLOW A CLASS OF REGISTERED VOTERS THAT HAVE CHANGED THEIR COUNTY OF RESIDENCE TO … M. McKee Notification that SB304 is now Act 372
SB339 Act 404 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB339 A. Clark CONCERNING THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE CHILD MALTREATMEN…”
CONCERNING THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE CHILD MALTREATMENT INVESTIGATIONS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. A. Clark Notification that SB339 is now Act 404
HB1376 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…take Senator Hill. Senator Hill, you're going to be running HB 1376.”
TO ENCOURAGE STATE AGENCIES TO AWARD A PORTION OF STATE CONTRACTS TO ARKANSAS BUSINESSES THAT … Pilkington WITHDRAWN BY AUTHOR
HB1460 Act 324 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ko TO ESTABLISH THE INTERSTATE MASSAGE COMPACT IN ARKANSAS. HB1460 Rose TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING APPOINTMENTS TO CERTAIN BO…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING APPOINTMENTS TO CERTAIN BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COUNCILS BASED ON CONGRESSIONAL … Rose Notification that HB1460 is now Act 324
HB15 · 1 mention in transcript
Matched: “…of eyes. Representative Rye. You got a bill, sir? You run a House Bill 15. 56. All right. Yes. If”
Pre-2017 bill
SB141 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…EN INTERIM COMMITTEES MAY MEET DURING A LEGISLATIVE RECESS. SB141 B. King TO ELIMINATE FUNDING TO THE ARKANSAS CENTER FOR HEA…”
TO ELIMINATE FUNDING TO THE ARKANSAS CENTER FOR HEALTH IMPROVEMENT. B. King Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SB212 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…OM OF INFORMATION ACT OF 1967 CONCERNING PERSONNEL RECORDS. SB212 K. Hammer TO CREATE THE DOCUMENT VALIDITY DIVISION; AND TO…”
TO CREATE THE DOCUMENT VALIDITY DIVISION; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. K. Hammer Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SB227 Act 505 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…mmer Sen. Jim Dotson REGULAR AGENDA Number Sponsor Subtitle SB227 C. Tucker TO AMEND THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT OF 1967;…”
TO AMEND THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT OF 1967; AND TO AMEND THE PROVISIONS OF … C. Tucker Notification that SB227 is now Act 505
SB241 Act 885 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…EDOM OF INFORMATION ACT OF 1967 CONCERNING PUBLIC MEETINGS. SB241 J. Scott TO AMEND THE UNIFORM ATTENDANCE AND LEAVE POLICY A…”
TO AMEND THE UNIFORM ATTENDANCE AND LEAVE POLICY ACT; AND TO GRANT PAID LEAVE TO … J. Scott Notification that SB241 is now Act 885
SB247 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…NATE FUNDING TO THE ARKANSAS CENTER FOR HEALTH IMPROVEMENT. SB247 C. Tucker TO CREATE THE ARKANSAS ABSENTEE VOTER INTEGRITY A…”
TO CREATE THE ARKANSAS ABSENTEE VOTER INTEGRITY ACT OF 2025; TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING … C. Tucker Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SB248 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ND THE LAW CONCERNING THE DUTIES OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE. SB248 C. Tucker TO AMEND THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT OF 1967;…”
TO AMEND THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT OF 1967; AND TO AMEND THE PROVISIONS OF … C. Tucker Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SB282 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…LODGING WHILE TRAVELING ON OFFICIAL BUSINESS OF THE STATE. SB282 C. Penzo AMENDING THE LAW CONCERNING PUBLIC WATER SYSTEMS;…”
AMENDING THE LAW CONCERNING PUBLIC WATER SYSTEMS; AND TO ALLOW VOTERS TO ELECT "FOR" OR … C. Penzo Died on Senate Calendar at Sine Die adjournment.
SB299 Act 403 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…NFORMATION, AND MATERIAL AT A POLLING SITE ON ELECTION DAY. SB299 K. Hammer TO REQUIRE A PERSON ASSISTING A VOTER TO PRESENT…”
TO REQUIRE A STAFF MEMBER TO WITNESS AN ADMINISTRATOR ASSISTING A RESIDENT OF A LONG-TERM … K. Hammer Notification that SB299 is now Act 403
SB343 Act 734 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…THE CHILD MALTREATMENT INVESTIGATIONS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. SB343 Irvin TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING STATE-OWNED MOTOR VEHICLE…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING STATE-OWNED MOTOR VEHICLES; TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING PUBLIC PROPERTY; … Irvin Notification that SB343 is now Act 734
SB344 Act 444 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…s designating areas as 'Members and Staff Only'. ARKANSAS. SB344 Irvin TO TRANSFER THE HEALTHY EMPLOYEE LIFESTYLE PROGRAM FR…”
TO TRANSFER THE HEALTHY EMPLOYEE LIFESTYLE PROGRAM FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TO THE DEPARTMENT … Irvin Notification that SB344 is now Act 444
SB4 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…INITIATED MEASURES. DEFERRED BILLS Number Sponsor Subtitle SB4 C. Penzo TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING PUBLIC WATER SYSTEMS;…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING PUBLIC WATER SYSTEMS; AND TO ALLOW VOTERS TO ELECT "FOR" … C. Penzo Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SB44 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…LLOW VOTERS TO ELECT "FOR" OR "AGAINST" WATER FLUORIDATION. SB44 Hester TO CLARIFY THE LAW CONCERNING WHEN INTERIM COMMITTEE…”
TO CLARIFY THE LAW CONCERNING WHEN INTERIM COMMITTEES MAY MEET DURING A LEGISLATIVE RECESS. Hester Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR1 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…LEBRATED. CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS Number Sponsor Subtitle SJR1 B. King AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO REQUIR…”
AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO REQUIRE A VOTE OF THREE-FOURTHS OF EACH HOUSE … B. King Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR10 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ORCE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OR AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED BY LAW. SJR10 B. King A CONSTITUTION AMENDMENT CONCERNING EFFICIENCY IN G…”
A CONSTITUTION AMENDMENT CONCERNING EFFICIENCY IN GOVERNMENT; AND TO PROVIDE FOR THE CREATION OF THE … B. King Sine Die adjournment
SJR11 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…OR THE CREATION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY. SJR11 J. Payton A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO AMEND ARKANSAS CONS…”
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO AMEND ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION, ARTICLE 2, § 5, TO PROTECT THE RIGHT … J. Payton Approved by the Governor.
SJR12 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ARTICLE 2, § 5, TO PROTECT THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. SJR12 C. Tucker AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION REQUIRI…”
AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION REQUIRING THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO ESTABLISH BY LAW A … C. Tucker Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR13 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…AL ASSEMBLY TO ESTABLISH BY LAW A REVISED ELECTION PROCESS. SJR13 J. Dotson A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO ALLOW A CANDIDATE F…”
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO ALLOW A CANDIDATE FOR SUPREME COURT JUSTICE, COURT OF APPEALS JUDGE, … J. Dotson Died on Senate Calendar at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR14 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…NDENT STATUS WHEN RUNNING FOR JUDICIAL OFFICE. Page 2 of 3 SJR14 J. Dotson A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT CONCERNING THE DETERMI…”
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT CONCERNING THE DETERMINATION OF THE TRUE VALUE IN MONEY OF REAL PROPERTY … J. Dotson Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR15 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…UE VALUE IN MONEY OF REAL PROPERTY FOR ASSESSMENT PURPOSES. SJR15 J. Dismang A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT CONCERNING ECONOMIC D…”
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT CONCERNING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE STATE OF ARKANSAS; AND AUTHORIZING THE GENERAL … J. Dismang Approved by the Governor.
SJR17 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…OMIC DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SJR17 J. Dotson AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO CREA…”
AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO CREATE THE ARKANSAS TAXPAYER BILL OF RIGHTS. J. Dotson Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR18 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…STITUTION TO CREATE THE "ARKANSAS TAXPAYER BILL OF RIGHTS". SJR18 J. Payton THE CITIZENS ONLY VOTING AMENDMENT. SJR19 M. John…”
THE CITIZENS ONLY VOTING AMENDMENT. J. Payton Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR19 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…IGHTS". SJR18 J. Payton THE CITIZENS ONLY VOTING AMENDMENT. SJR19 M. Johnson AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO EXE…”
AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO EXEMPT FOOD AND FOOD INGREDIENTS FROM THE EXCISE … M. Johnson Sine Die adjournment
SJR2 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…NING ACCESS TO PUBLIC RECORDS OR ACCESS TO PUBLIC MEETINGS. SJR2 B. King A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO CREATE THE ARKANSAS A…”
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO CREATE THE ARKANSAS APPORTIONMENT COMMISSION TO APPORTION DISTRICTS FOR THE HOUSE … B. King Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR20 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…XCISE TAX LEVIED UNDER ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION, AMENDMENT 75. SJR20 B. King A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT CONCERNING THE VOTE REQU…”
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT CONCERNING THE VOTE REQUIREMENTS FOR CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS TO BE CONSIDERED APPROVED AT … B. King Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR21 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ENDMENTS TO BE CONSIDERED APPROVED AT THE GENERAL ELECTION. SJR21 B. King A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT CONCERNING THE VOTE REQU…”
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT CONCERNING THE VOTE REQUIREMENTS FOR INITIATED ACTS AND CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS TO BE … B. King Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR22 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ENDMENTS TO BE CONSIDERED APPROVED AT THE GENERAL ELECTION. SJR22 G. Leding A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT CONCERNING THE QUALIFI…”
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT CONCERNING THE QUALIFICATIONS TO VOTE IN AN ELECTION. G. Leding Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR23 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…DMENT CONCERNING THE QUALIFICATIONS TO VOTE IN AN ELECTION. SJR23 M. Johnson A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO PROVIDE THAT PROCE…”
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO PROVIDE THAT PROCEEDS GENERATED UNDER ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION, AMENDMENT 91, MAY BE … M. Johnson Sine Die adjournment
SJR24 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…DMENT 91, MAY BE APPLIED TO MULTILANE HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENTS. SJR24 M. Johnson AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION CONCER…”
AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION CONCERNING INITIATIVES, REFERENDA, AND CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS REFERRED TO VOTERS. M. Johnson Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR3 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…THE SENATE, AND THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. SJR3 B. King A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT CONCERNING THE MEMBERSHI…”
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT CONCERNING THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE STATE HIGHWAY COMMISSION. B. King Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR4 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…CONCERNING THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE STATE HIGHWAY COMMISSION. SJR4 J. Boyd AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO PROVID…”
AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO PROVIDE THAT THE ANNUAL SCHOOL ELECTION SHALL NOT … J. Boyd Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR5 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ME AS LAST APPROVED AND NO OTHER MATTERS ARE TO BE DECIDED. SJR5 B. King AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO REPEAL…”
AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO REPEAL THE OFFICE OF LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. B. King Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR6 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…S CONSTITUTION TO REPEAL THE OFFICE OF LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. SJR6 B. King A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO PROVIDE THAT CERTAIN…”
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO PROVIDE THAT CERTAIN PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA AND … B. King Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR7 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…GRAMS AND ASSISTANCE FOR POST-RELEASE SUPERVISION SERVICES. SJR7 B. King AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO AMEND…”
AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO AMEND ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION, AMENDMENT 98, CONCERNING MEDICAL MARIJUANA. B. King Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR8 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…S CONSTITUTION, AMENDMENT 98, CONCERNING MEDICAL MARIJUANA. SJR8 B. King AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO AMEND…”
AN AMENDMENT TO THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO AMEND ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION, AMENDMENT 100, CONCERNING CASINO GAMING. B. King Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SJR9 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…NSAS CONSTITUTION, AMENDMENT 100, CONCERNING CASINO GAMING. SJR9 B. King A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT PERMITTING THE STATE OF…”
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT PERMITTING THE STATE OF ARKANSAS TO BE SUED AS A DEFENDANT IN … B. King Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment.

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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 0:08
have some pages that I want to introduce. So stand up when I call your name, guys, um, Eli Oberg, and these are all with Senator Sullivan, Carson Adams, Jeremiah Manley, Nate Manley, Judd Goad, Noah Thompson, Jacob Pipes, Jack Gad. Y'all stand up. I just, yeah, just see. Hey, we're happy to have you all here. Thank you for being here. Some fine
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Speaker 3 0:31
looking pages, Senator Sullivan. You'll notice they're
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Senator Dan Sullivan Unverified 0:33
all wearing ties. They got up at 5:30 this morning to leave from
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 0:39
Jonesboro, so I'm thankful they're here. Hey, we're happy to have you all here. Thank you for being here. All right. First up, we're going to take Senator Hill. Senator Hill, you're going to be running HB 1376. You got 2 minutes including questions. Get to it, Senator Hill. 1379. Thank you, Carly. All right, Senator, introduce yourself you're proceed. Rick, Ricky Hill District 11. I
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Senator Ricky Hill Unverified 1:18
do want to start out by saying I know I do not look near as sharp as these young people behind me do, and hopefully I won't look too bad with them sitting behind me. This bill is pretty simple. It just changes special authorization by the chief fiscal officer for expenses incurred for traveling. to the cabinet level, Secretary, Director, chief executive Officer. It changes it to them for those who are they answer directly to and so it's just pretty, pretty simple instead of having to go to the chief fiscal
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 1:49
officer. Alright, members, you've heard an explanation of the bill. Are there any questions from members of the committee? All right, I see no questions. We have anybody to sign up to speak for or against. don't see any, uh. Alright, Cheryl will take a motion. Got a motion to Clark, 2nd Senator O'Sullivan, all in favor say aye. Congratulations.
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Speaker 23 2:18
All right, let's see here. You got back here. Representative Nazarenko, you
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 2:27
want to run yours? Or hang on, hang on. Senator McKee, do you have a committee you need to get to? I know we're waiting on Sara Wallace, so Senator McKee will go.
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Senator Matt McKee Unverified 2:50
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What bill are you running, uh, 30430304. All right, thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, if it's all right with you, well, we'll see if we have any questions. I need to have folks come to the table first, but this is Pretty simple bill as technology improves. It allows us to do things that we in a quicker manner than we haven't done in the past. Uh, right now if a voter moves from one county to another, they have to change their voter registration 4 days before the polls close. Uh, if they want to be, if they want to vote in their new county of residence, technology that we utilize in our election system allows us to update that voter information all the way up in time. The polls close. We can tell if they've already voted. We can tell, we can verify their address. So this bill simply says if county clerk in a new county can receives the updated voter information before the polls close that they can, they can vote. So to me it's just removing. A barrier for qualified electors and registered voters in those counties to go ahead and cast their ballot. I'd be happy to take
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 3:55
any questions, members, you've heard an explanation of the bill. Are there any questions from the committee? All right, Senator, you recognize
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Senator Dan Sullivan Unverified 4:04
for a question. So how are people notified? I notice the bill says if it happens before the close of voting on that day, how would one know all of that.
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Senator Matt McKee Unverified 4:12
So that's, that's based on basically communication between the county clerks and the election commission. Yeah, I
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Speaker 39 4:18
understand that. So how does that happen in real time
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Senator Matt McKee Unverified 4:23
it's the, I'll have my election commissioner friend come up and he can probably answer all these questions for you I trust the Secretary of states have signed off on the Secretary of State has signed off on this, and so have the county clerks, my understanding, and election commission. I'm good. Thank you. OK. All right, we're not gonna need you, sir.
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Speaker 44 4:41
Thank you. Yeah, OK, all right, members, any other questions for the committee? All right, see no
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Speaker 47 4:48
more questions. We have anybody set up to speak for or against, don't have anybody, chair will entertain a motion.
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 4:56
Got a motion to pass Senator Clark. Second from Senator Sullivan. All in favor say aye opposed. Congratulations, Senator, your bill passes. Uh. Representative Ray, you've got something you want to run? Yeah Is this the first one? No. 12th or 1029. Representative Ray, what are you running? What bills are you running 1499 members. House Bill 1499? So. So that joke, yeah, work on it, please. All right, if you introduce yourself, you'd be recognized to present your bill.
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Representative David Ray Unverified 5:57
OK, good morning, committee, David Ray. State Representative District 69. Mr. Chair, could I have someone from the division of Building Authority joined me. This is not. I go out and
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Speaker 61 6:19
eat fish or something. Chris Bell, deputy director for the division of Building Authority with TSS right. Thank
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Representative David Ray Unverified 6:28
you. Um, this is an agency bill from the division of Building Authority. It is supported by the governor, and this is actually one of the recommendations that is in the um the AR forward, the efficiency study. It deals with the the procedures for the sale and purchase of public property. So, um, I'll just run through real quickly what the bill does. If you look at um section one, it's really just moving some exemptions. Over onto page 2 in a list format. That's not a substantive change. I just wanted to point it out because it's striking some language and moving it. Um, sections 23 and 4 are really what the bill changes. Section 2 requires an agency when they sell or purchase public lands to come to the, to bring that request to the division of Building Authority on the front end to obtain approval to get an appraisal. Uh, section 3 says that once they get that appraisal, they bring it back to the division of building authority. Um And then Section 4 just says that the agency proposing the sale or purchase um has to have that appraisal reviewed by DBA for assessment and recommendation. Um, the reason for these changes is because a lot of times, um, agencies when they have a real estate need, they will go out and find whatever property it is that they want to purchase, they'll pay for an appraisal and sometimes they'll even go as far as to make an offer on that property before the division of Building Authorities ever even brought in. On the process. It makes more sense for DBA to be brought in on the front end um before these purchases are basically all but finalized. A lot of times agencies don't have the best incentives when it comes to purchasing their own real estate. They may want to go find the biggest building, the nicest, newest building, the one with the nice view overlooking the river or something like that, um, and their, their incentives may not necessarily be aligned with those of The taxpayer. Uh, also, our agencies don't. really specialize in real estate. They specialize in whatever their mission is, whether it's Department of Health or Department of Banking or whatever, and if they Bring division of building authority and on the front end. They can do feasibility assessments, flood plain reviews, things of that nature that are obviously in the interest of the taxpayers. So that is basically what the bill does. We'd be happy to take any questions. All right, members, you've heard an explanation
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Speaker 16 8:58
of the bill. Are there any questions from the committee?
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 9:04
Alright, don't see any questions. Do I have anybody sign up to speak for or against, don't see anybody signed up. So with that representative, you're
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Representative David Ray Unverified 9:13
close to your bill, OK, all right, I appreciate the committee this morning and I'm closed for
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 9:18
the bill. Alright, uh, take a motion, motion to pass from Senator Payton, second from Senator Dodson. Any discussion on the motion? See none, all in favor, say aye. Opposed. Congratulations representative your bill passes. All right, an extra set of eyes. Representative Rye. You got a bill, sir? You run a House Bill 15. 56. All right. Yes. If
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Speaker 16 10:00
you will hit your button there representative. There's a button on there. If you hit that, there you go. Now you're
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Representative Johnny Rye Unverified 10:06
cooking with oil. Thank you. Very good to be with you today. This is just a amendment to existing law dealing with music appreciation day. It was said that September 1, which is a bad time. Never really got enforced right. Now we're amending this to March 1, so all the people will be present for uh fiscal sales. and also our general session every year and there's gonna be folks that will be in the rotunda performing music on that day. Uh, from all four corners of the state and that's basically all the bill does. All right, remember you've heard an
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 10:44
explanation of the bill. Are there any questions from the committee, Senator Clark, you recognize your question, sir. Representative. So we're not going to appreciate music this year.
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 10:53
No, sir, not this year. We don't have enough time. OK, so we don't
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Speaker 34 11:01
have enough time to appreciate music. We come over to my office, we'll appreciate music.
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Chair Unverified 11:06
OK, thank you. Thank you, Sarah Clarke. All right, members are your questions? All right, not seeing any got me signed up to week for or against. OK, don't
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 11:14
see your I signed up. Representative Bright, you're recognized to close your bill. Yes, I finished with the bill. OK. Representative is closed for his bill. Take a motion and a motion to pass Senator Sullivan, the second from Senator Dodson, all on paper. Say hi, opposed. Congratulations, Representative. Your bill passes. Thank you all so much. Good to be with you today. Always a pleasure to have you, sir. Let's go. Let's go, man. All right. Representative Nazarenko. And you're running
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 11:51
House Bill 1217. Correct. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and thank you committee for hearing me today. So I'll bring you a House Bill 1217, which is an interstate massage compact. I do have a uh a friend from FSMTV to bring up, but I'll wait to see the questions that we have and see if I can answer them before we bring them up. This bill is a great bill that's going to be able to offer uh open up opportunities for Arkansans. It's going to break down barriers for Employment for them, so everyone's probably familiar with different compacts. You had ACT 257 and Act 260 last legislative session, which was occupational therapy and counseling utilizing those bill's language as well as CSG's help. We came up with a great bill for massage compact for massage therapists. Great support in the massage community as far as folks that own businesses as well as massage therapists, as in, in the state of Arkansas. So in a nuts, if you're unfamiliar with it, the compact would allow massage therapists that meet all qualifications to operate in Arkansas and any other member state. That being said, those other member states would also allow those massage therapists to practice here in Arkansas, which is a great opportunity, as we know that a lot of folks are moving into Arkansas at this time. So one of the examples that I gave that really speaks volumes to me is how this, this would be used in action in my district we had a tornado right followed by a flood. If a massage therapist had their business washed away at that time, they and they were part of that compact, they'd immediately be able to go into another member state and practice keeping their paycheck in their pocket, food on the table, and their family and the best state of being that they could, as far as folks coming into the state, a great example there is we know that a lot of people aren't coming with everything set in place at one time. A lot of times they've got to have two houses, one there, one here. This gives them the opportunities are coming from a member state, to working here in Arkansas as well as in that other member state. Um, as we did mention this, or I didn't mention, but this is not a requirement for any other massage therapist. If somebody wants to just practice massage therapy here in the state of Arkansas. They can still go through that. This doesn't affect them negatively in any way. They can come in, get certified, and then practice with no problem. It is a complete option to choose the compact. So therefore, in in no way negatively impacts them with that, I'll stop for any questions and like I said, I can bring in the expert if if I'm not able to answer them. All right, Senator Tucker, do you
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 14:28
have a question? You may have said this representative, and sorry if I missed it, but I, I just see where it becomes effective once 7 states pass it. Do you
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 14:37
know? Have 7 great question Senator Tucker. So currently there are 2 states that are in, that's Nevada and Ohio. There are 7, excuse me, 8 states currently that are in legislation right now, but the 1st 7 states that signed onto the compact, they have a seat at that table. and they are the ones that promulgate the rules for the compact. Great question, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Senator. And Senator
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Senator John Payton Unverified 15:01
Payton, we're going to ask for a question? Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I'm just getting into it here, uh. So I see that there's a commission and it looks like all the states have representation there. I'm just in definitions, but there's going to be an executive committee. So we may or may not have representation on the executive committee. Great question, Senator Peyton. So just as a
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 15:23
Senator Tucker mentioned the 1st 7 states, so all, all member states will always have a say in that, but the 1st 7 are actually what make up that commission. And right now there's 2 states that are in the compact and then 8 right now they're in legislation, so we have a great opportunity to actually be on that
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Speaker 102 15:40
commission and then be the ones that promulgate those rules.
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Senator John Payton Unverified 15:44
Thank you for that. So actually the commission will not have representation from every state, just the 1st 7. Are you talking about the executive board, the executive board, that's the 7 states board would be the 7, so what is the cost of who's going to be the one that represents Arkansas and gets sent here and there to To attend those meetings. Excellent question, sir, and I'll answer that
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 16:07
in two parts of the cost. I don't know if a fiscal was sent out, but I did request and receive that fiscal impact statement. It shows $15,000 initially with a $6000 annually. I reached out to the Department of Health because reading the compact, you can't see that anywhere, so it didn't, it didn't spell it right out. They told me that was the best guess just going by old compacts that had had come through. The cost would end up being shouldered by the folks that are signing up. To join the compact, so the cost isn't necessarily to the state of Arkansas. That was the first part of your, your question, and then the second part, can you restate that second part,
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Senator John Payton Unverified 16:46
please? Well, before we move on, so you're saying the cost will be borne by the
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Speaker 97 16:50
states that sign up, we'll be one of the states that sign up. The cost is actually by the folks that sign up and take the exam, joining that
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Speaker 109 16:57
compact, actually joining in the license, sir. OK, so my other question was who is going to
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Senator John Payton Unverified 17:01
be the designated person from Arkansas to represent us on that, great question. Would you mind if I, because I, I'd have to fiddle, I know
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 17:08
I've got that info, and I, but I don't remember it. Would you mind if I brought up, Ms. Patty Glenn. So Miss Platty Glenn, she's going to be the director of education professional mobility from the Federation of State Massage Therapy Boards, and she'll be able to give you that exact answer. Same thing, just introduce yourself. Yeah, thank you,
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Speaker 114 17:39
Senator Flippo, members of the committee. My name's Patty Glenn. I am the execut excuse me, I'm not the executive director. I don't even know where that just came from. Director of education and professional mobility with the Federation of State Massage Therapy Boards, and my primary project is helping to get
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Speaker 115 17:54
this interstate massage compact commission stood up. So to answer your question, sir, um, the multi-state license fee will be set by that commission. It could also the the commission's rulemaking process could Designate that to the states as well. So it depends on each commission is handled slightly differently, but um what we've seen and what we expect with the massage compact is the infrastructure has already been established by the regulatory community through the FSMTB, so we don't have the upfront cost of a database development or any other expenses associated with this. So the expectation is the commission
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Speaker 114 18:29
will be stood up. We do expect that the 1st 7 states will make up that executive board. All states that have a that
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Speaker 115 18:37
the compact will be heavily Involved in the process of rules development, um, it is possible the commission could
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Speaker 114 18:44
decide once it is stood up that they want to elect their executive board out of those first dates, but the expectation is those states that joined the commission this year. When it is stood up will be involved in that rule's promulgation. But because it's a
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Speaker 115 18:58
regulatory project, we will still include the states that regulate massage for feedback and ultimately at the end of the day, the therapeutic community and members of the public as well. So it's a very open, inclusive
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Speaker 114 19:08
process, and that rules development where, you know, you could certainly have an opportunity to weigh in or anyone else could. OK, so
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Senator John Payton Unverified 19:14
first of all, if you could move that microphone a little closer. I'm having a hard time hearing you. I apologize and so where are you
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Speaker 117 19:21
from? I'm from Kansas City now, and I'm with the Federation of State
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Senator John Payton Unverified 19:25
Massage Therapy. I just didn't know where your house. So where will this Compact commission, uh. Where will the employees be housed? It'll depend on the commission. So once the commission is
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Speaker 115 19:36
stood up, it will become its own independent nonprofit overseen by the regulatory community. OK, so my question that uh My question that I had
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Senator John Payton Unverified 19:47
asked when he brought you to the table was how does Arkansas determine who represents Arkansas on that commission. Is there going to be the head of some board that we have or, or does this bill spell out because I've not been able to read the bill completely. No
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Speaker 124 20:03
problem, sir. My apologies. Sorry about that. It's the executive director or administrator
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Speaker 114 20:07
of the board or their designee. So in this case, the regulator massage therapy board. So in this case it would default to the department. So whether it would be their chief that oversees the board or whether the department might make a different decision, it would fall back on the department to
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Senator John Payton Unverified 20:23
make that call. OK, so what authority would Arkansas have to withdraw from the compact in the
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Speaker 114 20:28
future. That's also clearly spelled out in the compact language, so you absolutely have a withdrawal option if you're not happy with any of the processes, and then I think that I would let Representative Nazarenko speak to the amendment that we made on the House side to ensure that Arkansas had a voice
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 20:42
and a vote in that process as well. Great, great question, Senator Peyton. So on the very last page, subparagraph. was pulled directly from Act 257 and Act 260 given ALC as well as the General Assembly that that oversight so that if there was ever an issue, you know, the state did not want to be part of the compact anymore. They're able to pull out just like we're not part of it right now, we'd be able to pull out of it
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Senator John Payton Unverified 21:06
at any time that they chose to. OK, and I'll, I'll make uh one more question, I guess. So, The licensees are paying a fee that's going to be established. We don't know what that fee is going to be
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Speaker 115 21:18
yet. Typically similar to the other compacts that have been established before, all of them vetted through the council of state governments and the National Center for Interstate Compacts are developed with them range in about the 1.5, but under 2 separate or distinct licenses, so we would expect
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Senator John Payton Unverified 21:35
it to be somewhere in that range. I think you stated the massage therapist in Arkansas could operate under our current licensing and not be forced to be where will the dollars be held? Where will the The money that the compact collects in fees where, I guess it's not a matter of where. It's both, it's a matter of where and
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Speaker 115 22:03
who's going to be in control of how that money is spent, so the regulatory, so all the compact member states will oversee that just like they do with FSMTV, um, as, as their association, so the compact member states will oversee that piece and establish what is necessary to come to the commission to run the commission. The remaining fees would stay with the state. So even though we often do see some sort of a fiscal, what's been recognized by other compacts in the in the past is that actually it creates a revenue stream for the state as well, to give you a quick example in the survey we've had running in Arkansas has heavily weighed in on that survey thanks to your very active massage community here. 90% of therapists responded saying they have had a need or a desire to have licenses in multiple states. However, less than 10% currently possess them, and the reasons they listed as the for not possessing them were the inability to be able to be licensed in another state because their education might not have been recognized or the reciprocity is good. Thank you. Thank you, Senator. Thank you.
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Chair Unverified 22:59
All right, well, Senator Lawson is Senator Clark. Senator Dodson, you're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. So We don't know
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 23:05
what the fee will be if I understood you correctly. We, we are
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 23:11
guessing on what the fees will be, but there will be some fees set by this commission that we don't necessarily have any control over that that the applicant pays nothing that the state pays.
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Speaker 143 23:20
There's no assessment to the state whatsoever in this
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Speaker 144 23:26
compact. It's paid simply by those individuals who desire to have access to the compact.
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 23:30
So the, the individual. massage therapist themselves. So And we don't have to pay a fee as a state to be part of the compact. You do not. And we may or may not be part of the executive committee. We just don't know, but only for one of the 1st 7 that pass it. Again, we're looking in
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Speaker 115 23:51
this session at potentially having more than 7. So if we only had 7 in this session, it would
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Speaker 144 23:57
automatically be those initial 7, if we were to get 8 or 9, then my expectation would be that the 9 would probably vote their executive board, but they also the expectation is that those 9 would all work together heavily even though they don't form the. 7 member executive committee, but the executive
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 24:13
commission is the one that will be determining the fees and the rules. I mean, for the entire thing. Yes sir,
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Speaker 144 24:21
in coordination with all the member states, however. OK. Um
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 24:28
And obviously until it's set up. There's, there's no way to know for sure how much our, our in-state therapists are going to be charged as far
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Speaker 144 24:36
as their fees consistent with other compacts between 1.5 and 2 times their normal license fee for the end state
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 24:44
and what would that be? Right now it's about $80 for a licensee to pay for their current exam, and every licensee right now in Arkansas, they've come through, they already meet the qualifications to join the compact, so there would be nothing extra. 120 to $160.
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 25:01
Correct, sir. Per if they want to be a multi-state massage therapist if they're just. Doing stuff in the state of Arkansas, they would not have to do that, so you're basically getting a secondary license to operate out of state. So if you're on the border, it might be beneficial to you if you live in Little Rock and you're not going to. In another state, it probably wouldn't necessarily correct, Senator, and there's a lot of, as
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 25:27
I mentioned, there's a lot of support for it. There's, there's folks that own businesses here right in Little Rock that uh very well support the compact, but they don't intend to join the compact because they don't really want to practice massage therapy in any other state. However, they see the benefit because then they can bring in in their times of in needing additional, you know, folks, they can bring them in and then the great thing about them bringing in is they are part of that national and I didn't really talk about that, but there's a national registry that the massage therapists have to be on, where they, they meet all qualifications and it has a full background check, which kind of, you know, leads into helping with that human trafficking and keeping bad actors out because they're on a national registry with
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 26:07
our in-state. Massage therapist at this point. Are they on that national registry as well. So the National
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 26:13
Registry, and Patty can talk about this even more, but it is not fully built right now, and that's part of the compact is that that's included in what every member state gets is to be a part of that national registry.
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Speaker 159 26:24
So we're just currently bringing in licensees from Missouri, excuse me, in New Hampshire and we have agreements with
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Speaker 144 26:32
with those states. It's not that's not the compact piece, it's just simply this licensing database which will help the states to be able to know who's been bad factors in other states. So that is a that's a service that is um part of the membership that Arkansas already has with the Federation of State Massage Therapy Boards, but participation, that is a requirement for states who are members of the compact because that's where that data sharing will happen.
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 26:54
And then final question here, do we have reciprocity agreements for massage therapists with other states currently.
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 27:03
Rarely. So the only reciprocity we talk about that is the military. So military currently has reciprocity that they can come in. Our veterans are already taken care of because that was a question that came up in uh in health because DOD was behind this. They were the ones that had sponsored the development of this because there's a huge gap in military with, you know, moving around to different places. So as folks come into Arkansas, their licensed military as folks come in with that license, they're recognized here, but if they needed to go and PCS, which train station, moved to a different place. This would allow them to go to that
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 27:41
member state within that compact. Yeah Thank you. Alright, thank you,
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 27:47
Senator Clark and Senator Sullivan. This is a lot of code. 26 pages that we need to add to
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 27:54
state law, but Uh, so, sir, and thank you for that question. So looking back at like Act 257 and Act 260, it's nearly a boilerplate law, if you go back to those, it it almost says the exact same thing. There may be a couple language differences because of, you know, massage and occupational therapy that change, but other than that this is a produced from CSG's help with CSG's help just to enter into a compact. And what's the name of the commission again? So CSG uh The mission of state governments, they're the ones that are behind, you know, what this commission, OK, that's the Federation of State Massage Board of therapy. Excuse me, massage therapy board FSMTB. F FSMTB. OK. Uh, there's not a website, I don't suppose.
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 28:41
For the massage compact, yes sir, massagecompact.org and it's housed
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Speaker 115 28:49
at the Council of State governments, and again the interstate compact or impact will be its own. Uh, the commission will be its
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Speaker 124 28:55
own entity once it's fully stood up. OK, so there's legislation and
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 29:00
you said 8 states. Uh, 9 actually. So what states
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Speaker 115 29:07
are we expecting to be part of the compact. Virginia has passed both House and Senate and is heading for the governor's office. Georgia has passed the Senate and is heading to the House. Alabama will be introduced the bill's filed but hasn't had a committee hearing. Missouri, we did not make the cutoff this year, but we're working on prefiling for next year already. Illinois has a bill that is waiting to be heard in committee, and then we have New York, Connecticut, and Maine and Montana, and then the two states that have already enacted the legislation or Ohio and Nevada. OK, I was expecting to hear.
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 29:41
Oklahoma, Tennessee, Mississippi. Uh, Texas, uh, so. A massage therapist can travel to Illinois or Virginia or New Hampshire. But it doesn't help somebody in Fort Smith because I'm I'm trying to figure out the purpose, uh, it doesn't help somebody in Fort Smith who's going over to Oklahoma didn't help somebody in Texarkana who's going into Texas doesn't help somebody in West Memphis who's going into Tennessee or Mississippi. We anticipate, sir, that the initial multi-state
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Speaker 115 30:12
licenses won't be issued till we get through the rules making process and you've had a chance to look at them here in Arkansas. Um, so issuance of these multi-state licenses we're looking at the end of 206 or early 27, so many of the states you just mentioned, there a therapists and folks on the ground working with their representatives and senators in their states to get bills filed for 26, so they would be able to be online and part of the compact by the time licenses are being issued, um, there's one of me, I wish there were more, a lot more and some amazing therapists in our profession helping get this work done, but, you know, 9 is, is a good number to make sure that we're here and able to support you
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 30:50
fully and, and get this commission working on the rules, so other than the
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 30:58
military who you said we already had. In law. So as far as as far as reciprocity, sir, there is none, sir. So our reciprocity is for military. That's where it's spelled out, but as far as folks from Arkansas being able to, you know, recognize that licensure it's not in place, and that's what the for the military. For the military coming inbound to Arkansas, it
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 31:21
is, but not going out. The, uh, like I said, other than the border states. Uh, help me understand why massage massage therapists in Arkansas are wanting to travel out of state to work
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Speaker 180 31:35
in Uh And what's the circumstances? Uh, 2 that weren't mentioned
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Speaker 114 31:45
today that have become really prevalent to me through this process. Uh, one
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Speaker 115 31:48
is therapists that need to go support or assist elderly parents or children or grandchildren for a short period of time that are not able to get employed in those states but can't afford to leave their gainful employment and are having to not be present where they would desire to do so. Um, so that's a pretty significant one. The other is a pretty profound impact we took from COVID, both in a decrease in therapists in the profession, but also an awful lot of therapy. who either burned through their retirement during that time or lost a spouse or significant other and are now facing the situation of not being able to retire, but wanting to have something that feels like a retirement in their life. So we're at a perfect point for massage where there has been a decrease in supply and an increasing demand. There's a Significant number of spas and locations that are desperate for therapists right now and so we're at a point where therapists could create their careers. So if they wanted to spend 3 months, you know, travel or spend a year traveling and work here for 3 months and there for 6 months as this builds out, they would be able to explore this country, maintain their home base here in Arkansas and be able to either support family or friends or
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 32:56
just follow tourism traffic. So if we have a shortage of massage therapists now, right? Yes, sir. Yes sir. There's across all states there is, I'm not worried about Nebraska, so, so we have a shortage of massage therapists in Arkansas now. We tend to be a lower paying state. In about every way. So will this not then exacerbate that situation that Arkansas. Make it easy for Arkansas therapists to
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 33:30
leave and. I would say this actually is drawing them in, sir, because they can actually come into a state that's on the forefront of this industry and being, you know, Arkansas has been on the forefront of the massage industry since, you know, it started the current test that's actually out there right now, the ELEx that we mentioned earlier, Arkansas was on that development of, of, of that test. So this actually gives Arkansans and draws folks in from other states to an opportunity, and we're opening
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 33:58
that opportunity up for them. We're going to create a worse if anybody actually is moving in any numbers, we're gonna create a worse situation for somebody, uh, if we make it better. Somewhere else, for what reason would massage therapists be coming to Arkansas
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 34:14
and I may have, I didn't the first part of that, but folks coming to to Arkansas, whether it's for massage or some other industry. We know it's because we've got, you know, what they like. When I look at it, I look at it from the military lens spending so much time in the military, military retirees and veterans that are getting out this area with our outdoor recreation, our lakes, our rivers, our hiking, our biking. This is a perfect place for them. Like a playground, so as they come out here, they're still going to have to make a living them and their spouses have to make a living. This is a great opportunity for them, so it's a great way for us to draw them in. They're not covered under the law as it is. Well, as you mentioned, they are the veterans coming in if they are licensed. If they're not, if that veteran or spouse is not licensed, then they could come here and become licensed and then still have that
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 35:08
flexibility, mobility. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Senator. All right, we're gonna have Senator
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Senator Dan Sullivan Unverified 35:13
Sullivan hammer and Peyton for Sullivan. Yeah, thank you. So I'm generally really in favor of compacts and the ease you really when you mentioned a national registry so you could identify bad players. I think I've been on a bad player list in a few places. And I'm really concerned that we have a national group. That's going to identify bad players based on their um criteria and they're going to pass that down to the state of Arkansas. And if we as a state recognize what they say are bad players. What happens? So I wouldn't say it's bad players, sir.
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Speaker 117 35:49
It's individuals who've been licensed in other states that it's a bad player.
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Senator Dan Sullivan Unverified 35:53
I mean there's for some reason they have violated whatever the
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Speaker 117 35:58
national group says it's not the national group, it's each individual state. So this is a state registry
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Senator Dan Sullivan Unverified 36:04
owned by the regulatory boards. OK, so I misunderstood then, so I thought when you said there's a national registry, there isn't or there is. It's
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Speaker 114 36:12
a national database, sir, that's uploaded. So for example, like I
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Senator Dan Sullivan Unverified 36:15
was mentioning I see that as the same thing essentially you're going to register. As with a national group. Whoever that is, And your name is going to be on that list. Then that national group who controls that database. Someone's going to make a decision that they're that player Y is a bad player. Then that information passes down to the state of Arkansas. And we may have a with the national group calls a bad player that we recognize as a good player. What happens? Absolutely, sir.
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Speaker 114 36:48
It's nobody's making that decision at the federation level. The state data is shared among states, so right now there
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Speaker 115 36:54
isn't much data sharing in massage therapy like there is in some of our other healthcare
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Speaker 144 37:01
professions, and so as a result, let's say that somebody was revocated for sexual misconduct in um Arizona. They came into Arkansas and they did not disclose that they were ever even licensed in Arizona. Currently the board doesn't have any way to really identify that would just be able to see a license database that's strictly raw licensing data and know that there have been discipline and then make the decision here in Arkansas as to whether that is somebody they would license decision still rests with us even though they may have had a
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Senator Dan Sullivan Unverified 37:34
bad player in another state. The decision is still ours. OK,
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Speaker 191 37:39
thank you. Thank you, Senator. All right, Senator Hammer, you're recognized. Thank you. I know
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 37:43
on some of these other compacts that have run they've been like at the request of the Department of Defense, and do you know, is this one, have they engaged in this conversation or are they anywhere around this one? Yes, I'm sorry,
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 37:56
sir. Yes sir. So and I had these, they probably didn't get sent out to you, but DOD had sent a support letter kind of explaining that they were behind this. They had had set up the funding for the study for and then why they supported it and it's because of the disparity in veterans and their veteran families having jobs because of moving around so much. And so that was initially how I got, um, how I got very interested in this coming from a military background and and making sure that we're taking care of veterans in the process I learned that it's not only veterans that it's even much greater than that. Arkansans everywhere would benefit from it. OK, and another thing real
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 38:36
quick, and I want to expand on Senator Sullivan's question, and there was compact went through the other day and uh when we got to looking at it on the state level, there were requirements as far as associating with things like, you know, DI gender pronoun, wokeism, all that kind of stuff. What's the safety that you can give us that the state would remain in control so that the national organization would not be able to override the state. input in order to make sure that the values of Arkansas are not usurped through any affiliation at the national level. And, and
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 39:12
I can jump on that as, as we did talk about the other day and then mentioned here we have the ability. Arkansas has sovereignty. It's talked about in a couple of different um couple different paragraphs, and then the biggest part of it is if any time the federation is doing something we don't agree with, and we know that, you know, DEI has been removed from all language. So if they're at some point, you know, pushing that then at any given time Arkansas can say we are no longer part of this compact and we go to exactly what we have right now. So great question,
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 39:42
Senator. OK, last thing though, though, who has the authority to pull the trigger and say we're out of here and would that require legislative action or does this have a trigger clause in it to where if something happens, the compact is automatically dissolved. What's, what's the exit ramp strategy to get out of this if we don't like it. Great question. So they're on that last
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 40:00
paragraph, subparagraph D on the final page. It's, it spells out ALC and the General Assembly, so I I would assume it
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Speaker 211 40:08
is going to take a a legislative action, sir. Thank you. Thank you.
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Senator John Payton Unverified 40:15
All right, Senator Peyton. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh, I got to make a couple of notes here.
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Speaker 130 40:23
OK, on page 5. Line 6. It talks about member. Well,
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Senator John Payton Unverified 40:38
I think I got the wrong line down there anyway, so page 5, it says member state requirements on line 10. Montana and so this is requirements that are going to be made. Of our state and you go down to subparagraph 6, I guess is what I meant, line 33. Line 31. Does Arkansas currently have continuing education for our massage therapist, so this wouldn't force us to have a new component there. We're already satisfied that. OK, and then on 17. I think we, I'm in public health committee. And I think we just had a bill that was hotly contested as to whether or not we would create. The ability for Arkansas massage therapists. To Have a state exam instead of the national licensing exam. But we currently already accept. Passage of a national licensing exam. Whether that bill passes or not, is that correct? That's correct, sir. OK, so we already meet all of the requirements. To join the compact. OK, if we go to page 9. Lines Staring on line for that big paragraph. It's talking about being able to issue subpoenas and hearings and investigations and stuff like that. Is this the compact coming into a member state and doing this, or is this the member state doing it for themselves,
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Speaker 173 42:14
so similar to how your driver's license works, this is, that's the foundation that this compact is built on,
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Speaker 114 42:19
so your driver's license in Arkansas allows you to drive in any state in this country, but if you're violate the
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Speaker 115 42:24
laws in that state, that state also has the authority to issue a citation or whatever that might look like, depending
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Speaker 114 42:31
on the level of your violation. So this compact has a similar provisions that that state, if somebody were to violate the Practice Act in their state where they're practicing does have the ability to take action on the multi-state license, not on Arkansas's license, whether and then Arkansas will always remain and maintain the right to take action against their own licensees. So if one of Arkansas's licensees does violate the law in another state, and that's an egregious violation by the state of Arkansas, Arkansas also has the ability to address
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Senator John Payton Unverified 43:00
it at a state license level. OK, specifically. and um I'll ask Senator Tucker to pay attention here. I know you are, but I'm not a lawyer. Uh, so they're on line 789 right in there. It's talking about evidence. Uh, page 9. So there are lines 789. I mean, he's talking about evidence from another member state shall be enforced in the latter state. By any court of competent jurisdiction. Well, we know that. Rules of evidence vary from state to state. So how can we Say that another member state evidence that may violate the rules of evidence in Arkansas has to be accepted by Arkansas
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Speaker 181 43:46
court. So I don't have council state governments here to answer that. But since this is part of
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Speaker 115 43:51
that boilerplate language, my assumption would be that your law over, you know, overrides any of that. I mean, if it's not evidence that you would accept in Arkansas, well, it shall be available or admitted in accordance with the state law here, it would not, there's nothing about this compact commission that usurps the authority. the state. There's another section in the statute that's in the language that specifically speaks to Arkansas maintaining autonomy and authority over anything that happens in your
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 44:16
state. OK, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Alright, yeah, Senator Tucker, go ahead. So
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 44:26
there's a whole set of laws that have to do with just requiring someone in another state to respond to a subpoena. And that's really what this is dealing with. If I issue a subpoena in an Arkansas court on an Arkansas resident, then that subpoena will be enforced always if I issue a subpoena on someone in another state, there's very particular rules about whether the subpoena can be enforced or not. And so
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 44:47
that's not, that's not saying the way I read that language, it's not saying that evidence will be heard in court or evidence will be taken in a particular way. All that's saying is that if two states are members of a compact, if us and Nebraska, for example, are are members of a compact and an Arkansas court issued a subpoena to a
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 45:07
Nebraska resident related to this subject matter, then Nebraska's court would enforce the subpoena. For that person to appear in an Arkansas court, not that Nebraska's laws would be enforced here or that Arkansas's laws will be enforced there. It's just in terms of having people respond to a subpoena. Here, here.
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Senator John Payton Unverified 45:34
Thank you for that reply. And, and, and I'll just be open on part of my concern was Uh, Nevada, I think you said is going to be part of this compact or already is, and I think prostitution is legal there, not within the massage profession,
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 45:50
sir. OK, thank you. Thank you, Clark. Yes sir. Thank you, Senator Peyton. Who do we have up next? That it? OK. All right. Oh Patty, don't you go ahead and say
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Speaker 224 46:05
you're signed up. I mean, I feel like you've said, I
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 46:08
feel like I've said enough you have other questions, OK. Ashley Smith, Ashley, I speak for. And actually if you introduce yourself and tell us who you're
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Ashley Smith Unverified 46:35
with you'll be recognized proceed with your remarks. Yes, sir. Good morning. My name is Ashley Smith. I'm a master massage therapist and a business owner out of Little Rock, Arkansas. I support this bill because this will help ensure military families, uh, their spouses to keep massaging in the state if they were required to move to Arkansas, it will help small businesses grow even more and because we do have a shortage of massage therapists. I wouldn't see why we wouldn't want to pass this. We want to be able to help more people, massage is really beneficial in the medical field. I am a medical massage practitioner. And there's people that work in Cartai at the VA and we really need more massage therapists in hospitals. So this is why I support this bill. Thank you. All right, thank you, Ashley. members
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 47:24
there any questions? All right, see none. Thank you for being here.
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Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified 47:30
Representative Azarenko, you recognize closure bill. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman and uh uh senators, I, I appreciate you giving me a chance to present this bill. I believe it's a really good bill that can open up opportunities, as we mentioned, for Arkansans as well as those folks that they come up with a need to move to other states for temporary time to be able to practice massage and then keep that flow of income coming, food on their table, and their way of life in the best possible situation that they can. I appreciate the questions. It's it's a great question. And I thank you for all listening, and with that I'm
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 48:10
closed and thank you members. Representatives closed, a motion. OK, got a motion center hammer.
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Senator Dan Sullivan Unverified 48:17
2 Senator Tucker, all in favor. Say aye. Oh, excuse me, discussion. Go ahead, yeah, go ahead. I'm really concerned about the trend we're seeing in starting these compacts and the impact when we start them that national organizations are taking up the cause and I'm concerned that Arkansas has less and less control over what goes on in our state that our national organizations are going to start coming down and with different requirements that don't necessarily reflect the policy of Arkansas, and we lose control. I like the fact that this bill allows the legislature control over that. I'll vote for it, but I'm concerned with the
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 49:03
direction. Thank you. Thank you, Senator. All right. Any more discussion on the motion. All right, see none. Got a motion from Senator Hammer, 2nd Senator Tucker, all in favor say aye. I post, congratulations
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Speaker 50 49:15
Representative bill passes. Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, senators. All right, Sarah Clark, you want to run yours real
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Speaker 98 49:25
quick? What number is it? Um, If my sight was not playing
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Speaker 65 49:34
tricks on me, Senate Bill 339-336. 339. Carly, can we do something about the lighting in here? I mean, for those of us over 45 without an iPad, yeah. I need
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Speaker 233 49:45
that reading lighting, Senator Tucker. All right, Senator Clark. Uh Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 50:04
the committee, SB 339 is a very simple bill, uh, It takes the Rules for the uh Child welfare legislative oversight committee or child maltreatment investigations oversight committee that the more correct title, uh, back to what they were when we first created the committee Uh, only legislative members. Vote for chair and it's done biannually, not annually. Uh, the reason for that is, is a big part of the members of the committee are those that we oversee. And they might not uh particularly like sometime in the future, someone who is aggressively investigating and overseeing, and they have way more votes than the 5 legislators that are there and we foresaw that when we first started and we in the beginning we said legislative members biannually just like we do with any other committee, not sure how it got changed. Uh, it, it was in some bill that came through, it had to be to change it, but once we caught it, uh, again. You know, I was always skeptical, Senator Payton, but this made me even more skeptical that my law and my bill had been changed without my knowledge, and it had to, had to be done through the legislature, so it had to be slipped in somewhere and for what reason? I don't know, but anyway, we're just setting it back to where it was in the beginning and where it ought to be. You're
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Speaker 98 51:47
happy to take any questions. All right, members
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Senator John Payton Unverified 51:53
you for an explanation of the bill. Senator Payton, I ask for a question. Thank you, Senator Clark. Good idea, because obviously these child maltreatment cases can span many months or years and having that institutional knowledge in our representation on that. Board Uh, is important. So I think it's reasonable that we reorganize the legislature every 2 years and that this be biannually. Appreciate you bringing it. Thank you, Senator. Any
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Speaker 239 52:17
more questions from the committee? All right, say
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 52:24
no more questions. Don't see by sonate, speak for or against this, Senator Clark, I'm close and make a motion to pass a motion to pass Senator Clark. Got a second from Senator Hammer. All in favor say aye. Congratulations, Senator. Your bill passed this. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, members of the committee, Senator Hamer. You're going to start with a 283. All right, and she's gonna be start senators going to be starting with Senate Bill 283. Chairman, if it'd be agreeable to you and the committee, I'd
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 53:09
like to ask Steve Lux to come up because he's going to give the illustration as it relates to this bill that may help Steve. No Uh, Senate Bill 283. I'm Kim Hammer, state senator of District
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Steve Locks Unverified 53:24
16. Morning, Mr. Chairman. My name is Steve Locks. I live in Hot Springs Village and involved with several nonprofits including DMI
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Speaker 250 53:33
Members Club, um, never really had heard of unclaimed property till recently when I was treasurer of Diamante Members Club.
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 53:41
Hang on a second. Can I present the bill and then let him give his illustration, OK. All right, currently nonprofits are less than 1% of the unclaimed property as of January 5th, 2025, according to the information we received, there's a total of 5 million. $502,649,000,980 in the unclaimed property. There's a little fluctuation as far as the number ranging between 400 and that 526, but that was as information we obtained January 5th, so currently nonprofits are less than 1% of the unclaimed property in Arkansas. What this bill would do would allow nonprofits with revenues of 5 million or less to be exempt from the unclaimed property laws with the auditor's office. this would require the nonprofits to still maintain the liability on their books and seek to find the individual for unclaimed property. There's tremendous exemptions on the books for like Walmart and Electric co ops, and there are about 6 other states that currently have a form of exemptions for nonprofits and to give an illustration of how this would relate and apply now I'd like to ask Mr. Locks with the chairman's permission to give an ill. administration
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Steve Locks Unverified 54:58
if that's permiss. Thank you, Senator Chairman. Mr. Chairman, senators, as I mentioned, I'm Steve Les from Hot Springs Village and
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Speaker 249 55:06
involved with about 3 or 4 different uh nonprofits found out about unclaimed property when I was involved as treasurer of Diamani Members Club Diani was built in 1994. They sold lots. This is Cooper and Cooper Communities and Club Corp sold lots and as part of the purchase of the lot, the people that bought a lot paid a initiation deposit that was refundable after 30 years. And was non-transferable. Most of the people that bought were in the 60 year age bracket, so you can imagine and when we ran into this in 2024, uh, people are 90 or more years old, and so we started looking for these people and have found a number of them and have paid their repaid their initiation deposit but found out that any we didn't find after 3 years we had to give the money to the state, even though we do extend To internet searches and have ability just like the the auditor's office does to find people and actually have more because we know people who knew people that used to own the lots and had sold them and still had the initiation deposit coming to him. I also had talked to some pastors of churches, and I said, Do you realize you're subject to unclaimed property laws. They said, I've never heard of that. What is an unclaimed property law? And I said, Well, if you hire, for example, someone from Homeless shelter and they come up and work for you and do a little bit of work and you pay them 20 bucks to get them by and then say, you know, we have payday next week and cut you a check and you go down to the homeless shelter the next week to give them their check, and they're not there anymore after 3 years that church is supposed to give that money to the auditor's office if they can't find the people, and it's been interesting talking to different nonprofits, none of them are aware. If you Google it on the internet and you go. Nonprofits, unclaimed property, you'll get some kind of answer that says yes, in most states nonprofits are subject to unclaimed property laws, but they're not aware of that and don't comply. And so in Arkansas currently as Senator Hammer mentioned, most of the money that comes from nonprofits comes from hospitals that are above $5 million and working with the auditor's office, they felt like they should stay in that category. Because they have staff that works on that full time and can easily comply with the law and send the money to the state. Uh, so we're asking for exemption for nonprofits of $5 million or less. Mr. Chairman, for
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 57:49
full disclosure, so members have as much information, you know, the decisions they're going to make, um, one of the things you need to know is that about 18 to 19 million. I couldn't. I was trying to look through my notes to get the exact number. It's 18 or 19 million is moved from the unclaimed property over to general revenue annually. It goes into general revenue right now. I think that tally is up about 400 million that's been moved over there, and I do know that the auditor has initiated an progressive method to be able to try to find these individuals. I don't think that what we're asking for is going to conflict, but if you, as I mentioned, 1% of the total amount in there according to the information we received through a request by BLR 1% or less is attributed to nonprofits of that 1%, what we can identify at least that's for the information I'm operating on is how much of that 1% is actually going to fall under the 5 million or less, so I would say a good way to illustrate is that 5.2% if there was a run on the banks so to say that 5.2 would be the maximum, but of that 5.2 we're only asking for it to apply to those nonprofits with $5 million or less, so it carves that number down even more. I just want to give you that information so you can be aware of the numbers and the impact which I would state like this very, very minimal. should we allow this to go through and at this time answering questions.
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Chair Unverified 59:22
Thank you, Senator Senator Dawson and Senator Tucker.
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 59:28
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, Hopefully you can help me understand. Exactly where, so we're adding a new subchapter. This, this 1828232 on line 25 is a whole new subchapter, right? I'm trying to follow along through here. Where We're in here does it say that? 5 million or less is exempt. Because I see on line 36 item B, it says this subchapter does not apply to a nonprofit organization that has an annual revenue of less than $5 million. So Is it saying It is it earlier in a different chapter that we're referring to somewhere. We're saying that entities under or that all nonprofits are exempt from this.
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:00:31
I think the interpretation would be it is limiting it to nonprofits that have an annual revenue. Of less than $5 million so that, and I'll give you an illustration and correct me or get me straight if I'm wrong. This would take out like children's hospital or larger organizations that would have the ability to take advantage of this. I mean, I
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 1:00:57
get the intent and I'm fine with the intent. I'm just trying to figure out where it says in here. Anything related to unclaimed property. In the entire Is it in a different section? Or is it under? Item A1 on lines 27 through 29. Is that a corporation governed by Title IV, Chapter 28. I
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:01:26
think that's what applies to That that is what limits it to the nonprofit corporations. OK.
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 1:01:36
So that's a nonprofit organization that's the definition, but I don't see here where it's saying that a nonprofit organization under 5 million in annual revenue is is being exempted from unclaimed property. Where's its referencing unclaimed property at all in this bill. You I don't want to interrupt
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:02:00
you can go to our legal counsel.
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:02:06
I don't want to interrupt your line of questioning, Senator, but This bill would just create a new section in the unclaimed property subchapter. There's this will be the 32nd section in the subchapter. There's 31 other sections of the subchapter subchapter 23. This is the one
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:02:25
that creates the exemption that we're asking for. That's right. So in
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 1:02:32
the overall chapter itself is what you're saying. Titled unclaimed property. It's creating an exemption for nonprofits, but then that's why subchapter. I item B isn't there that says it doesn't apply to. Revenues, OK. I'm following along now. Thanks. Thank you, Senator Dodson. Senator Tucker, you're recognized. OK. Keep my
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 1:02:51
mic on. So I have a couple, I have a
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:02:55
couple concerns. Um, one is just from a Well, I have a concern about the amount, but before we get to that, just the structure of it, the way that this works, I want to make sure I understand and the other members of the committee, um, understand what if if a nonprofit is exempt from turning over the unclaimed property to the auditor's office. Does the nonprofit just get to keep the money forever. Uh, Senator, they
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Speaker 249 1:03:27
would keep it on our books. It would be, you know, Someone
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Steve Locks Unverified 1:03:32
else's money that they were holding on to just like the state now holds onto it. It just would have been the church or whatever nonprofit would hold on to it, but you know, 30 years from now somebody showed up and said, hey, I worked for you, you know, back in January of 2025 and you were going to send me a check and I left town and they would have to pay them at that time whenever they showed back
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:03:55
up, right, and so you, you made the point well that I kind of wanted to make sure I'm clear on this is someone else's. It's not the nonprofit's money. That's correct. And so the question is, is not whether the nonprofit gets to keep the money or not. It's whether the nonprofit keeps the money in their own bank account or they turn it over to the auditor's office. That's correct. OK. So, um, We're not, so the point of the bill then is just to Not force nonprofits to turn in claimed property over to the auditor's office after 3. It's not to give them a fun air. OK,
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:04:34
so we know that's what the law would say if the bill passes, but as a as a practical matter, you know, what, what would happen? Senator, right now
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Speaker 249 1:04:44
if a church was audited and they caught them doing that, they would be fined and they would have to pay interest. Under this bill, if the auditor's office decided to go ahead and audit the church and said, do you still have that $170 you owe that guy that came and raked your leaves, they could show on their books in their financial statements that they were holding unclaimed property for whoever might come, but they wouldn't be subject to being fined and charged interest. OK.
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:05:15
Um I, I think I just have a Yeah, philosophical concern with You're holding on to someone else's money, you know, indefinitely, but, but let's go to the the dollar amount. I mean an annual, I mean, I know some nonprofits that that might have a don't have a big operating budget but have an endowment maybe of over $5 million but annual revenue, like an annual revenue. Um, $5 million is a pretty big number. I mean, that's a, that's
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:05:47
a major organization. And so I'm just, I'm just curious how you settled on
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Speaker 249 1:05:53
that number of $5 million. Um, I can tell you that I'm like, as I said, I was a former treasurer of Diamani Members Club. The members who own the club were nonprofit and our revenues are around 3 million, so initially we wanted to go ahead and exempt all nonprofits and then working with the auditor's office, we finally arrived at 5 million because People 5 million or less right now are paying very, very little to the state of Arkansas, if
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:06:18
anything. Does Diamante have any issues coming up that that this bill
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Speaker 249 1:06:22
would affect. Well, as I mentioned, Club Corp and Cooper in 1994 built the place and started selling lots and actually each time someone bought a lot, the first time a lot was sold, they paid initiation deposit, and that was repayable after 30 years, um, but it's non-transferable, so the question is, you know, is there somebody still alive to get that and we're working hard to try to find those. What's the total liability to Diamante of all of those over 11 years
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:06:56
it's in excess of a million dollars. OK, so the way this bill would impact Diamante directly as whether they turn How much did
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:07:03
you say? It could be over a million dollars whether they turn it, whether they keep over a million dollars in their bank accounts or whether they
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Speaker 249 1:07:10
turn over a million dollars over to the state auditor, right, Senator, and we've already started 24 was the first year to hit it and it goes all the
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Steve Locks Unverified 1:07:18
way to 2034. We've already been paying people that might potentially have.
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:07:22
And to my knowledge, there's no other state that exempts nonprofits from. This unclaimed property obligations, is that, is that your
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Speaker 249 1:07:30
understanding? I'm not sure we've searched initially I thought Google said there were 4 states, Kansas. Ohio, Maryland, and Virginia, but when I went, I'm not a lawyer, but when I went to look it up, I don't see the exemptions, but Google said there were 4 states, other states do exam, and we do here in Arkansas exempt electrical co ops, which I guess are nonprofit
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also. Thank you. Thank you, Senator Senator Byton
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Senator John Payton Unverified 1:07:58
show a question? Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, um, Do you think that you've exhausted your ability to try to track down these people or, or once you find out they're dead, you don't have an opportunity to transfer that to the errors or anything. Well,
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Speaker 249 1:08:14
we're still, you know, we just started in 24 or middle of 24 is when we first started getting involved in this with the Imani members Club. Um, the interesting thing is my understanding of the law is if we find out that somebody in California that bought a property, um, no longer lives in California if they still live in California, we're subject to unclaimed property laws in California. Well, I think, but if they're not, if we don't know yet for Senator if they live in California anymore, that actually comes back to Arkansas and so those people would also be subject to unclaimed
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Senator John Payton Unverified 1:08:48
property in Arkansas. My understanding is the treasurer's office has been very successful in recent years of improving their system and tracking people down, and, and once it's turned over to them, it's very likely that they have more resources than you have. And more manpower than you have to try to track down the rightful owner of that property. So, Wouldn't we be better off? Instead of trying to exempt the nonprofits of a certain size of maybe exempting small transactions that were the dollar amount. Being reclaimed may be so small it's not worth the manpower and
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Speaker 73 1:09:26
research to get it to the right person. Well, that's obviously, Senator, your
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Speaker 249 1:09:30
call, but certainly in the case of Diani members Club, um, it's, it is a $10,000 initiation deposit that was charged and we do have a bunch of people that have been working on this, so obviously just
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Senator John Payton Unverified 1:09:44
because it's a nonprofit doesn't mean it's a church. No, that's true. I mean, there's all kinds of different this bill creates a definition. Of a nonprofit within this section of code. Can anybody tell me whether that is consistent with other definitions in Arkansas code of a nonprofit.
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:10:09
I'm going to answer. I think it is, and the reason I would say I think it is is because it's got to align with what the IRS finds as a nonprofit. Well, and I would tend
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Senator John Payton Unverified 1:10:20
to agree that's why I was getting to my next question of nowhere else in Arkansas code does it delineate between a $5 million nonprofit and a lesser or greater nonprofit. Is that true?
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:10:36
That I'm aware of in 5, the subject of 5 million was kind of an arbitrary number to arrive at to hit a threshold, you know, as Steve said, started off at 10 million and trimmed it down so I mean there's, is there any magic in the sky as far as the 5 million. It was the point that seemed to be arrived at. Well, I'd venture to say that.
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Senator John Payton Unverified 1:11:02
With an annual revenue of $5 million they probably have an accountant that could track this money and make sure it gets turned over to the treasurer, but I appreciate you bringing the bill anyway. Thanks. The key and you keep saying
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:11:12
treasure, but you mean auditor auditor, thank you. All right. Are there any
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 1:11:16
more questions from the committee? All right, so you know I don't see anybody sign up, speak for or against. Would that sure you're recognized to close for your bill. Thank you. I think
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:11:26
one thing to keep in mind and and appreciate the debate. I think the one thing to keep in mind is that ultimately whether they find it and if I'm wrong, you correct me, but whether they find it, the auditors find it, whatever the money ultimately would come back to the auditor, so that puts it back into general revenue ultimately where it seems to be going unless we pass a law that prohibits that from happening, so. That one second, Senator, I'm going to let Senator Payton
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 1:11:51
just Sorry, I just wanted to give you a chance to respond
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Senator John Payton Unverified 1:11:56
to this. And maybe you don't know or maybe you do, but. Are there already exemptions for Walmart, Dillard's, and Electric co ops? You let me check something. I got a text from somebody saying
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Speaker 272 1:12:15
there are. Sure go ahead. I believe it called the Walmart Dillard's bill. It exempted gift cards.
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Speaker 249 1:12:22
So there's a gift card exemption, and that's where Walmart Dillard's and others, but I think Walmart was the lead in getting that passed. Thank you. Appreciate that. Thank you,
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Speaker 288 1:12:30
sir. Sarah Hammer, go ahead. All right, thank you. And
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:12:36
And again, um, I think what I, you know, the money comes back in, it hits the auditors once it's exhausted, it ends up in their unclaimed property fund, we move 18 to 19 million, you know, a year or to general revenue at the end of the day, I think keep it back in the, you know, closest to where it originated from in the nonprofit for that, I'll be um appreciate a good vote and I'll make a motion to pass. All right, got a motion to
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Speaker 285 1:13:02
pass by Senator Hammer. I'll see a second. 2 Senator Sullivan all in any discussion on the
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:13:13
motion? Yeah, go ahead. I, I just want to reiterate the point that Senator Payton made, which is that the design of the bill is to exempt small nonprofits, although I think $5 million revenue a year. We debate whether that's small or not, but the auditor's office has a robust system for tracking people down to give them their money back. And if the design of the bill is to exempt small nonprofits, they're going to have really no system in place to track people down and there's no dispute that this money belongs to other people, so I just think 3 years or I mean whatever the time frame is and the law that is applicable, turn it over to the otters. Office for other people's money, then they can track them down and get their money back to them is the best system for getting people's money back to them, so.
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:13:56
Thank you Senator Tucker. Sure. Well all that. Thank you and I want to make sure to give, you know, give a shout out, give credit. I'm not, I'm not disputing that the auditor is not doing a diligent job. That's not what's at stake here, and I commend the auditor for the bill that we recently passed to beef it up, you know, best I remember one item was to to be able to mail, you know, those checks back to people directly, and I don't see necessarily where this is going to undercut that effort. It's a matter of who can get to the finish line first as far as getting people's money back to them, but then the question, unless I'm totally misunderstanding it, the question then boils down to it if you can't find those people, whether it's the auditor or whether it's the nonprofit that's working, then the question comes, so we're going to put it back in the auditor, and we're going to move 18 to 19 million over to the general revenue versus can we keep it closest to the nonprofit level. I do think that's one thing to be factored into is Do we want to put in the general revenue or we want to give the best chance to the nonprofit to keep it, keeping the lid of 5 million, and I do think that that needs to be factored in, but again, I just want to give a shout out to the auditor because he and his staff are doing a great job of being diligent. To me this just attacks it from two fronts and allows the nonprofit what's going to be afforded them in the bill. So for that I continue to ask
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 1:15:24
that we would get a good vote. Thank you. All right, got a motion to pass by Senator Hammer, a second by Senator Sullivan all in favor. Say aye opposed? No, sorry, Senator Bill Fails. OK
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Speaker 293 1:15:50
All right, Steph, and call the roll. Senator Clark, Senator Clark, yes. Senator Hammer, Senator Hammer, yes. Senator Sullivan, Senator Sullivan, yes, Senator Tucker. Senator Tucker? No. Senator King. Senator King. Senator Dotson Senator Dodson, Senator Peyton. Senator Peyton, no. 3
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 1:16:34
eyes, 3 no's, Bill Fels. All right, I
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:16:37
am allowed to bring that back up setting aside. OK, thanks. What's your motion
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Speaker 99 1:16:52
the vote by which uh SB what is
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 1:17:00
it 28383 failed. motion to expunge. I did that 2nd, yeah, is there a reason for that? We, he
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 1:17:06
don't have to. Well, he can present it the second time, but who knows he may need
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Speaker 300 1:17:12
to present it a third time, so. All right emotion in the second spun the boat by which Senate Bill 283 fails. All in favors of a opposed. Alright, thank you for that, Senator Clark. I would right, Senator Hammer, do you have another bill that you plan on running if you'll let
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:17:33
me, can I get up here and what's the number? Uh, let's go for the short Amendment one first, and that's going to be 293. I've got an amendment to Bill 293 with a moment so
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Speaker 285 1:17:44
we need to adopt the amendment. Motioned up All that stuff passes out.
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So That right? OK.
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 1:18:27
Alright, I'll give you a minute to look over the amendment, and then I'll take a motion to adopt. Motion to adopt a motion by central hammer. Seed by Senator Sullivan, all in favor of adopting the amendment. Say aye. All right, opposed member has been adopted. You're proceed to proceed with your bill as amended. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:18:51
I'm going to yield to Chris if it's OK. This address is, I hope, concerns that were expressed the last time this was presented, and I'll let him present if that's
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 1:19:05
OK with you, with the So at the last committee meeting there was questions
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Chris Madison Unverified 1:19:08
regarding, you'll just go ahead and introduce yourself and who you're with for the record. That's right. Thank you, Chris Madison, director for the State Board of Election commissioners Mr. Chairman and committee, time we were running this, there were some issues related to the electioneering sign in the window facing out towards the front of the building, and there were some questions related to space outside the 100-foot exclusionary zone and whether private property rights and preventing people from campaigning out there were issues and really all this bill was trying to do was just put all of the required postings from the poll in one statute, and this was an ad because we had had a bunch of complaints of au ction e er ing and so we struck this out so that we're all we're doing at this point, everything else that's in this bill are already in law. We're just putting it into one statute to make it easier for our poll workers and us to uh Check off the list when we're doing our monitoring and when they're sitting at the pole to make sure all the polls are there. So we struck this one provision out because this was an ad based on complaints we've gotten this last time. Electioneering is still prohibited. This was just a sign that we added
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 1:20:17
in that we're striking out. All right, I was, you've heard Senator Hemmer,
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:20:21
you're gonna add to that? Yeah, yes, Mr. Chairman. the same questions. Yeah, that's fine. Senator. Oh you, Senator Clark, I think he's asked the question, Senator
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:20:32
Tucker. Thank you, Mr. Chair and Senator Hammer. Just discussed some of these yesterday, but she thought I would, since we're here and you're running the bill out, put them to you and um. Bring him to the rest of the committee's attention, but if you look on page 2, The new subdivision C2 online 124. What is that now it's 11 to 13. So yeah Page 2 lines 11 to 13. So, uh, This is going to require polling places to have Uh, to post that abstract. Pursuant to Section 7-9-114.
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:21:17
And under 7-9-114, that language has to be provided to the county clerks 18 days before the election. I believe that's correct, and county clerks
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:21:31
and there's early voting starts 15 days before the election.
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Chris Madison Unverified 1:21:39
I'm not sure on the math, but I
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:21:41
think that sounds correct. So it doesn't get, I don't have a philosophical, this is just sort of clean up. I don't have a philosophical objection to this, but it doesn't give the county clerks enough time because 15 days before the they have to be up and running 15 days before the election. Monday, 2 weeks before, and they are only going to get this language 3 days before that on the Friday before they have to be operational for early voting. And uh and a lot of times they start setting up the early voting sites, the Wednesday before early voting, and they're not even going to get this language until 2 days later, the Friday before early voting before they're up and running on that Monday, and, you know, my suggestion to Senator Hammer was to amend, include an amendment to 7-9-114 to require the abstract language to be distributed to the county clerks earlier just so they have enough
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:22:29
time to get it ready and get it posted. Can I respond? Yes, go ahead, then I'll follow
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Chris Madison Unverified 1:22:42
up. So first off, this bill, as we proposed was approved by the state board. The issue you're talking about scheduling of that thing is more of a policy statement versus what we were trying to do with this bill, which was just consolidate everything into one statute. This is the current law, and while it's correct that early voting starts 15 days before. Really this is just they get the email from SOS printed out and staple it to the wall or not the wall, but we have little poster boards they put up in there. So well, I don't disagree with you on giving more time on things. In fact, in the next session I'm probably going to run a bill that addresses a lot of those deadlines. I want to make sure that we're doing it such that we don't cause any problems and this
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:23:24
bill as approved by the state board didn't address that policy issue. So I know this bill was approved by the state board
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:23:30
and and with all due respect, the issues that I'm bringing up now, I think are, uh, discrepancies between a decision being made at the state level by a group in Little Rock. And they're being practical problems on the ground with people who are actually implementing this. And so the concerns that I'm raising. Our concerns from the people who I didn't come up with any of these on my own. They're from people who are on the ground at polling places and so I, you know, this is new language here that's going to put a new requirement on county clerks that their polling places, and I think the practical implementation of that of this is problematic given the current timeline. I'm not
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Chris Madison Unverified 1:24:08
familiar with this being new language that I could be mistaken on that, um. My understanding was this was to put all of the required postings of a poll and one code section is what we were trying to do with this, so, I just
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:24:22
know it's because it's underlined. Um, if it's struck somewhere else, that's not in this bill, so.
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:24:28
If it's moved from one a different code section to this one. I think it was If you look at Section 5.
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Chris Madison Unverified 1:24:46
Page 4. Line 32. Line, yeah, beginning of line 32. Not less than 18 days before the election, the Secretary of State shall transmit the certified copy of the abstract. Who shall calls copies to be printed and posted conspicuously, all polling places in the county for the information of voters. It's a reworking of that. Uh, from section 5.
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:25:10
OK, fair enough. So it's not a new language. It is not. Would you consider changing the 7-9-114b, not less than 18 days to. 21 or 23 just to give them a little bit
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Chris Madison Unverified 1:25:26
more time. Because that's a secretary of state's current requirement without the state board approval, I couldn't say yes or no on that at this point. I do have a meeting on the 19th. I can propose it to them, uh, and we can discuss it with the Secretary of State's office, but again, the purpose of this bill was just to put everything that's supposed to be posted on the walls or the poster boards in the pole in one location so we can have one place to look at it versus having look at multiple statutory sections.
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:25:51
Senator Clark, I hear what you're saying. I would like to consult with the clerks to make sure from the clerk's perspective that it is an issue and if it is, we still have time in this legislative session. I think that we could address that in a separate bill. And you did ask me yesterday. It was kind of late. I
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:26:08
did not get to Chris before this meeting, so I understand. Yeah, that's fine. OK, the next one is on page 3 line
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:26:18
7. You know, I've heard from county clerks that they at polling places they have that they are prohibited from posting items on the walls. And they're OK with posting these printouts where they're visible to people who are voting or whatever, but then actual requirement that they go onto the wall. is problematic. I mean it can be on a poster board, on an easel, or on a banner or some such thing, but, but putting it
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:26:43
in code, it has to be on the wall as a problem for a number of polling places. Again this
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Chris Madison Unverified 1:26:49
was pulling straight from current law and what we have traditionally done and the way the state board has approached it, as long as it's posted. On a poster board, we consider that a wall, and so we actually have spaces on the poster boards when our training we discuss, hey, get the poster board, preload all the things on there and then leave a space for your these printouts so the zero tape so they can just attach it to the wall and in fact I have probably dozens of monitor reports where they take photographs of it posted to the poster board and as long as it's posted and publicly available is what we're trying to achieve. Now we can come back at some point if you want to and look at
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:27:26
that, but that's how we've currently been applying it enough. Um So I do think so on page 3 line. I see where that wall is in current code and over here on page 4, but on page 3 line 5. Where it has all poll workers shall sign. I think that word all is new. Um I
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Chris Madison Unverified 1:27:56
So if you look at Section 4, page 4 line 27. It says the poll workers shall sign and post the printout upon the wall, and so it That language included all the poll workers and what you're doing is the poll workers that are present during the opening of the poll are verifying that this is the 0 type that came out at the beginning of the
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:28:16
poll. So you're just interpreting the language in Section 4 to mean all, even though it doesn't say all. That's correct.
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Speaker 338 1:28:21
That's the way it's always been applied and
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:28:23
but what I was told is that there's only 5 signature lines on this form, and if you have more than
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:28:29
5 poll workers at a particular poll, there's not a place for more than 5
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Chris Madison Unverified 1:28:38
people to sign. I'm not sure what the limitations on the ticket. Tape is is, I think the point is, if you, if you're running a vote center, you've got 15 people working there. The idea is, is that the poll workers present are saying this is the zero tape that came out. And so again, this was just pulling from existing law. OK, so I am fairly confident
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:28:58
that the language down at the bottom of 3 is is new language.
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:29:01
It's not pulled from somewhere or at least it's not struck somewhere else in this bill about crossover voting.
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Chris Madison Unverified 1:29:11
So there is a, there's another law that governs uh crossover voting and says it's a crime, it relates to the primaries. It's where if you, you know, you you vote. So actually I
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:29:21
don't know what that is, so I was hoping you could explain
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Chris Madison Unverified 1:29:24
it, so it's the law prohibits a person voting, for example, in the Republican primary preferential primary, and then voting in the Democrat primary runoff in June. That's the crossover voting. And so there's another provision of law that prohibits that, and this is hey crossover voting is a crime and that's what that term
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:29:43
means. OK, so is that defined somewhere
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:29:45
in code believe so, but don't hold me to that because I wasn't prepared for
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Senator Jim Dotson Unverified 1:29:51
that and so that was gonna be my last, my last. I just didn't know that that was the definition of crossover voting and And you have it in there that that's going to be posted and Explain what it means, but if there were if there were a definite, if there's not a definition elsewhere in code, I think it would be good to
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Chris Madison Unverified 1:30:11
put a definition here. I will, I'll double check on that. I know that in the primary election section, it talks about crossover voting, and I'm 80% sure that it's defined in there. I'm not, not 100% sure. I know we discussed it in our training materials and it's the idea that you, if you pick. One in the primary, you can't pick the other team in the runoff of
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:30:32
the fair. OK, um, so yeah, that, that, that's the last thing and and maybe if it even if it is defined somewhere else in code, maybe, maybe making a reference. Or maybe that's where, maybe that's covered under line 35. I don't know. I, I'll have to, if you, if you give me 30 seconds, I can look. OK. Crossover voting is not in 103. Let me see if it's a 104. At least I, I'm just doing a fine. I'm not reading the entire section. So the word crossover is not used in either 103 or 104. Um, maybe it's, maybe it's described, you know, with other language. I think it's described
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Chris Madison Unverified 1:31:42
in other terms or other in the 71103. I said 1104. Which are the criminal penalty sections where it talks about it, but I don't know if it uses the term crossover voting specifically. That's the term that's been applied through election apparatus. So that that would just
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:31:59
be, I'm searching now for a runoff, and I don't, that's not popping up either. So anyway, that would just be my suggestion is to offer a definition of crossover voting on that section, Mr.
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:32:14
Chairman to Senator Clark or Senator Tucker, sorry, um. The points that you raise, I'll be glad to once we get this week behind us while the rest of this week goes on, this bill is intended to condense everything down to one and the issues that you brought up. I'll start working on legislation to address all these and run it as a separate one that way if this gets through, then it could be combined into this area.
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:32:39
OK, that's fair, and I, and I think that Mr. Madison's explanations on my other
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 1:32:45
questions were all all fair, so I appreciate it. Thank you, thank you, Senator Tucker, for the questions. Thank you, Senator Hammer. Clark has, Senator Clark. Yes Senator
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 1:32:57
Hammer, the first time you called center Tucker Center Clark, you alarmed me because you said something like I know what your question is or something. I thought that's early perceptive, but momentary moment there because I did have one, on page. 3 Uh
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:33:18
I don't see where we have a second sign here. I think you'd stepped out of the room when the explanation was given on
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Chris Madison Unverified 1:33:28
that. I'll go back to Chris, give that explanation. Thank you, Senator. Um, the questions you had asked last time was related to the sign we had in the window facing outwards and related to and you raised the issue of campaigning beyond the 100 footer electioneering, so you have the exclusionary zone and then you have the electioneering or the campaigning is what I call it because technically electioneering is illegal. So that's a policy question that wasn't really addressed in the proposal or the purpose of this bill, the state board when they were adopting this was simply trying to consolidate all of the required postings and one bill. That was an ad to put the sign in the window because of this last election we had quite a few complaints of electioneering violations where people were within the 100 ft zone and campaigning improperly, but it was not to address the issue beyond the 100 ft and to avoid any of those confusions. That's why the amendment was to just strike that portion of it, and if you want to discuss the policy issue of beyond the 100 ft, happy to do so, but the board in approving this was just trying to consolidate all of the postings that In a poll from all the
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 1:34:31
different statutes in one location. I don't want to have a policy discussion. It's a chance to fix a rather large problem voting in the state, and I have been supportive of all the legislation that you've brought forward, um. And that's about as much policy as I'd want to discuss.
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Speaker 47 1:34:50
All right, thank you, Senator Clark. In our questions to the committee. All right, any more questions, don't have anybody sign up to speak for or against Senator Hammer. You'll recognize
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:35:02
the close. Schumer. I think we've discussed it enough other than I'll take begin to work on these other issues and this bill goes through, we can condense it all the way down, even taking up what Senator Senator Clark's issue is we had a healthy debate last time around. I'll be glad to take it back up. I think we've got time in the session to take that on as well, and it'd come back through this committee, so he would hear it and with that, Mr. Chairman, I a motion to pass. Appreciate a
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 1:35:31
good vote. I got a motion to pass as amended. Uh, 2 from Senator Payton as amended, second from Senator Payton, in the discussion on the motion? All right, so no, all in favor, say aye opposed. Congratulations, Senator Hammer. Your bill passes.
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified 1:35:52
As amended. See no further business coming for us. Oh, Mr. Chairman, I've got one more, but in the chance that I may have it
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Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified 1:36:08
failed because we've gone as far, and I'll tell you what, if we need to meet after adjournment, we've got I've got members of 4H out here that I haven't got to be with yet. We've got caucus going on right now, um, so anybody wants to run the bill, we can meet after adjournment, but for the purpose of this morning's
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meeting, we are adjourned.
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Agenda

CALL TO ORDER - Sen. Flippo

0:11

HB1379 Beaty Jr. TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE SPECIAL AUTHORIZATION FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR MEALS AND LODGING WHILE TRAVELING ON OFFICIAL BUSINESS OF THE STATE.

1:09

SB283 K. Hammer TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING UNCLAIMED PROPERTY; AND TO PROVIDE THAT CERTAIN NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS ARE EXEMPT FROM THE LAW CONCERNING UNCLAIMED PROPERTY.

53:14

SB293 K. Hammer TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE REQUIRED POSTINGS AT A POLLING SITE; AND TO AMEND THE LIST CONCERNING REQUIRED POSTING OF NOTICES, INFORMATION, AND MATERIAL AT A POLLING SITE ON ELECTION DAY.

1:17:42

SB304 M. McKee TO ALLOW A CLASS OF REGISTERED VOTERS THAT HAVE CHANGED THEIR COUNTY OF RESIDENCE TO CAST A VALID BALLOT; AND TO AMEND PROVISIONS OF ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION, AMENDMENT 51.

2:43

HB1217 Nazarenko TO ESTABLISH THE INTERSTATE MASSAGE COMPACT IN ARKANSAS.

11:46

SB339 A. Clark CONCERNING THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE CHILD MALTREATMENT INVESTIGATIONS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

49:26

HB1499 Ray TO AMEND THE SALE AND PURCHASE PROCEDURE FOR PUBLIC PROPERTY.

5:21

HB1556 Rye TO AMEND ARKANSAS MUSIC APPRECIATION DAY; AND TO CHANGE THE DATE ON WHICH ARKANSAS MUSIC APPRECIATION DAY IS CELEBRATED.

12:10:33

ADJOURNMENT

1:36:20

Speakers

Senator Scott Flippo Chair Unverified
49 segments
Speaker 3
1 segment
Senator Dan Sullivan Unverified
13 segments
Senator Ricky Hill Unverified
2 segments
Speaker 23
1 segment
Senator Matt McKee Unverified
5 segments
Speaker 39
1 segment
Speaker 44
1 segment
Speaker 47
2 segments
Representative David Ray Unverified
7 segments
Speaker 61
1 segment
Speaker 16
2 segments
Representative Johnny Rye Unverified
2 segments
Senator Alan Clark Unverified
29 segments
Speaker 34
1 segment
Chair Unverified
3 segments
Representative Jason Nazarenko Unverified
55 segments
Senator Jim Dotson Unverified
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Senator John Payton Unverified
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Senator Kim Hammer Unverified
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified
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Ashley Smith Unverified
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Steve Locks Unverified
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Chris Madison Unverified
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