Public Health, Welfare and Labor Committee- House

Thirty. So what we'll do is probably take a short recess about ten minutes at that point in time and then bring our meals back in here and then we'll go back in the session will work. Up until we need to go to Regular session The other thing We have a lot of bills on the agenda some of those I've been notified this morning we will have to pass over. So there's a number of them on there there is a possibility that. We could get through this list and maybe even get to a couple of bills that are not on the agenda. So if you have a bill that did not make the agenda today there's one option to get that on to the agenda. The eighteen hour rule in other words you have to have bills to fill eighteen hours before to get it on the agenda but we can suspend that eighteen hour rule in this committee then there's a two hour rule. You can get actually get bills on there within two hours of the meeting but that rule has to be suspended on the floor of the house so that being said right now. we can suspend the rules and add Bills to the bottom of the agenda doesn't mean we'll get to those but they will be on there and there is a possibility we'll get down to that. So. What I would like to know is do any of the members have bills that they want added to the agenda let me know. Representative Boyd you're recognized. Thank you Mr chair I'd like to have had house bill seventeen seventy six the seven by H. B. seventeen seventy six to the revised agenda ninety. President Bentley. I'd like to get seventeen eighty on the revised agenda if possible H. B. seventeen eighty yes. Seventeen eighty. A representative Alan. Thank you Mr chairman I'd like to a House bill fifteen twenty. H. B. fifteen twenty yes Sir. Yes. Representative Payton. Thank you Mr chair just in case anybody's wondering House Bill sixteen eighty one is on the agenda and and we're passing over. It's my bill on the food freedom hope nobody drove Little Rock fort with the Passover sixteen eighty one yes. Okay. Any other bills. VOL. I need to. Do you can you yes I need to add eighteen thirty six three zero H. B. eighteen thirty six. Posted at eighteen thirty six. Okay so any other state. Okay hold on just second voters. Okay. Senate. Six of this resolution. The Senate five. Senator. Thank you. Bills. I prefer. Yeah good night. I suppose. After we broke up John. Dr. Well The first is not far from the. Thank you. Well I refer you to a. Yeah the company. And I said. Okay. Okay members With. Okay members I want to make a motion the land to be allowed to vote on this to suspend the rules and add H. B. seventeen seventy six H. B. seventeen eighty H. B. fifteen twenty H. B. eighteen thirty six and S. B. for forty six. to today's agenda so my motion is to suspend the eighteen hour rule and add those five bills to today's agenda. Any discussion on the motion representative wing you're recognized Mali questions are any of these bills expected to be controversy all or expected to have something and then the war the public would want to participate or people who had any opposition or concerns about it be able to present that's a good question I will ask the presenters of those bills when they present if there's any known opposition there's a lot of discussion then we will pass over the question. The representative shall. The chairman I can address that issue on my bill my bill passed a committee and what we did we added an amendment to the bill at the request of some of my colleagues so it had passed and gone to the house bill and I went back and amended the bill okay. In the morning I just sat on seventeen seventy six if there's any opposition it's probably people that are in this room today right now and they're going to have plenty notice to know to be here this afternoon okay all right I would ask if you're the sponsor one of those bills and when you go down to present you give that information about any known opposition. Right any other discussion. Seeing noticing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Motion carries that rule is suspended. Okay Without objection the bills in red will be added to the consent agenda I don't think there's any new ones on there but want to make sure we touch that base. anyone here who wishes to speak for against the bill please sign up on the sheet out by the door over here if you have already. So members when we're gonna be passing over quite a few bills and we have members and presenters who need to go to Judiciary this afternoon so I may move them up so that they can present their bills this morning so they'll be free to go to attend Judiciary this afternoon because they meet at the same time that we do. All right we're gonna start at the top of the agenda. First item on the agenda is HB ten sixty three representative Dotson you want to pass over that. Okay we'll pass over that there may be an amendment coming. The next one on the concur Senate Amendment list is HB eleven seventy six represent Johnson you're recognized to present The Amendment thank you Mr chair committee we're we're kind of bummed bumbling away through this we had this before your committee and we should concurred on an amendment state we re presented the bill what up on the house floor it would bring it back here just to properly go through the procedure of concurring on the Senate amendment the Senate amendment was just adding an emergency clause you recall then be happy to answer any questions. Any questions from committee. I have a motion to concur on the amendment any discussion on the motion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Motion carries your amendment has been concur thank you Mr. Okay we'll move in the regular agenda. first item is HR ten nineteen by representative rye. Are you ready to present your resolution. Representative you're recognized thank thank you di need to identify. No we know who you are okay Sir hello this is just or resolution and what is important R. wouldn't be here I'll be honest with you I'd like to kind of read it is not very long. But is to encourage and promote residential swimming pool safety awareness. To reduce preventable accidental drowning day as of children who are under age five in residential swimming pools of. Is a Arkansas ranks seventh in the United States for drowning related deaths among children under seventeen years of age and the state's drowning rate is sixty percent higher than the national average for as drowning is the second leading cause of unintentional injury and death for children in Arkansas and children ages one through four of the years of age are most likely to drown in a residential swimming pool and creating a better a better barrier around residential for full is effective way to prevent drowning D. as long young children and residential swimming pool owners need to be educated about the benefits of frown in a residential swimming pool with the barrier that is at least four feet high does not have the orders on open spaces greater than four inches and does not have more than four inches of space between the bottom of the barrier of the surface of the ground and residential swimming pools. For as the department of health. Farmerville is encourage encourage to develop and provide information and educational material concerning residential swimming pool barriers and other residential slammed for safety measures that may be beneficial to residential swimming pool owners and that's basically and what we're trying to do now is just to encourage people to be safe we have a lot of children all around the state I had three and in my county alone that drowned this year and they were young they were three years and under. And don't pass a law but I do want to bring awareness to of the you know the situation that we're in with our children you know across the state and we're trying to do safety measures that would actually maybe cut down on the amount of deaths of our children and that's that's basically all I. All right thank you for that summary. any questions from committee. Seeing none you read to close for your resolution I was will of committee. Representative Bentley recognized. Motion to pass chairman I have a motion do pass any discussion on the motion. Yes representative Bentley you're recognized as well they represent have working on this and bring back a good resolution appreciate what you're doing with it and I will tell you how much I appreciate this committed for bearing with me because we don't want to impose anything. As of represent his own own own folks out there that may have a problem with trying to be pushed into situations as they don't need to be pushed into okay. Thank you so much thank you representative merry. All right seeing no further questions represent have closed what's will of committee I have a motion I'm sorry I have a motion representative Bentley of do pass any discussion on the motion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Motion carries representative Ryan your bill as passed your resolutions passed. Okay we're gonna pass over the next item. H. B. seventeen oh eight. And that will be heard this afternoon there's some folks coming in to speak on that so there they we can't be here till the afternoon session. Okay from there. I want to go to the consent agenda. And run some of these consent bills which should. Should go. Fairly fast on the consent agenda. First item is H. B. fifteen eighty five by representative Penzo are you ready to run your bill. Thank you Mr there's currently nine categories of Professions that need background checks in health care this just adds three more professions you know we in home in home care services don't. Currently require The background checks of this this just adds a few extricated Gories. There's any question that be happy to answer not appreciate a good vote the questions from committee. Seeing none. Close as anyone here in the audience who would like to speak against this bill. For this bill. Seeing none the rate closed closed. represents close for his bill what's your motion. President Penzo your motion. Well. Hello motion to best. Hi. I have a motion do pass any discussion on the motion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Motion carries graduation bills passed thank you Committee. Okay the next item on the consent agenda SB sixty five. Again we're going to pass over that until the afternoon session because we've got people coming from out of town that are not here. S. B. one fifty two Senator Hammer are you in the room he was running a bill and another committee. And he's going to try to get over here as soon as he can so we'll go back to that when he gets here. H. B. seventeen eighty one representative Johnson. He left. Okay. S. B. five twenty one. Senator Davis did you want to present the bill. You're recognized thank you Mr chair Crean Davis state senator district sixteen and this is a simple bill that just creates clear and consistent policy for Medicaid coverage of continuous glucose monitors forty states already have Medicaid coverage of CGM's and very broad coverage of it and this is a quality of care issue it will also be a potential cost savings to the state we spent a lot of money and coverage for people with and diabetes and allowing them to have a consistent policy where they have access to C. G. M.'s and will potentially be a good cost savings for the state seven with that I'll take any questions. Any questions from committee. The representative Payton you're recognized. Thank you Mr do we have a fiscal impact so we know what the cost is and we members so I think at mark light is here I can speak to that probably a little bit he said that based on if they look to see a hundred percent of people that they think could possibly and qualifies for it under this coverage if they all and applied and to get a CGM band through their doctor that it would cost around fourteen million dollars the state currently spends three hundred million dollars on care for people with diabetes and hospital stays emergency room visits a lot of things that if they just had a CGM in the first place contribute and they would not be maybe an ER or have some these additional costs so currently we spend three hundred million and if a hundred percent of people got on it only be fourteen million so you could you could see a reduction of huge costs there. Go follow. Yes you're recognized fourteen is the state's portion or is that the overall. Total as total federal state thank you thank you Mr. Any other questions. Okay seeing none. Is there anyone here in the audience who will speak against the bill. For the bill. C. ninety red clothes for your bill I'm close right bill and ask for a good vote thank you representative Boyd you're recognized. Make a motion to pass please have a motion do pass by representative Boyd any discussion on the motion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Motion carries congratulations center your bill is passed. next on the agenda is HB sixteen sixty three representative Dotson. The Bill. From the consent agenda. Impasse over. Okay members will go back up to the regular agenda. And the next item on the regular agenda is HB sixteen eighty four representative Mayberry. Government. you have an amendment and a financial impact statement as well there is one okay members I think you have the financial impact statement on your desk there the green sheet and amendments coming around. give the members a few minutes to read them. Representative you want to go ahead in explained the Amendment while they're getting sir it was noted that we didn't have a starting date and that's all we're doing is adding in the tax year that this is effective so that starting date was what January first of twenty one. So this year. Just clarifying okay thank you. Representative Brett you're recognized. Okay have a motion to adopt the amendment. The discussion on the motion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay moshing carries your amendment has been adopted you're recognized to present your bill as amended thank you members in twenty fourteen you may recall that on a federal level the able act was passed able stands for achieving better life experience program that was signed into federal law by bipartisan support but each state had to pass enabling legislation and we did that in twenty fifteen thanks to your help and what this does is it's a tax free savings act for people with disabilities that allows them to save money so that they can provide and meet their own needs without losing their public benefits like Medicaid so we already have this program it's working great we have grant Wallace here from the treasurer's office each year with kind of come back to tweak it a little bit to make the program even better and that's kind of what we're doing today so let Grant County explained. If you would please introduce yourself Wallace chief deputy treasurer for treasure Milligan so we are trying to accomplish three things in this particular bill what the first thing is cleaning up some language the inadvertently when the first time was ran actually had some five twenty nine education savings language in we need to remove that to make it in line with actually the able program the second thing we're working on is aligning the tax deductibility with the five twenty nine education savings plan which allows for a carry forward provision of up to four years and then finally we are lining again with the five twenty nine education savings plan to allow for state employees to pay roll direct into they're able accounts so with that I'd be glad to answer any questions. Representative Wardlaw you're you're recognized thank you Mr if you go to page two and you start reading line seven of seven through eleven as existing languages chose limits five thousand dollars per taxable year the star online twelve and go down the line seventeen it basically says that you can deposit in excess of that five thousand a carry that forward for four years what's what's the limit of that excess and hi I mean the by the purpose in this is to make sure that these people are indigent and they stay and to. Eight eight eight four given on excess I mean I could have twenty thousand dollars it is counted marinas from no so you're reading exactly right and what that does is the funds that are in this account actually do not count against their federal benefits so that was one of the purposes of establishing I understand so why Mr I'm sorry. He seems busy can I. Can I carry on please yes go ahead but that's the whole point of having a limit of five thousand dollars which is very plain and black and white this already existed but you're basically wiping it limit out with this other paragraph. But you're allowing them to have unlimited funds as long as it's within for tax years so basically for five years I have unlimited funds in my account. You would be limited to that twenty thousand dollar initial deposit of what you're doing is you're saying I can take five years. Because it's the year and in four consecutive tax years like take five years since I have twenty five thousand dollars in the account so why not. Committee let us vote on what it is why not change the limit to twenty five thousand if that's what you're going allowed to be in a county that say and I'm agreeing to that I've that's what your language is saying though why in this is just to allow for that did that tax deductibility to carry forward for those four years and it's eight say you've got some windfall for whatever reason in your one it will and but years two through four you would not be having any additional surveillance deposit would be allowed to have any. Am I reading that right no you can still deposit just your deductibility would Max out at that five thousand up to that five thousand level. So you can continue to deposit in years two three four but you would not get to a the cumulate additional tax deductibility. Thank you Mr. Represent Eubanks you're recognized for a question. Thank you Mister chair I don't know who the questions for I knew revenue tax committee is trying to keep track of all anything that's affecting G. R. whether it be a tax credit or tax cuts and. I don't know if this bill would be. Better if it had gone to Revenue and Tax because I thought I'd have five I think they're trying to keep track of anything like any other I'm sorry if I can answer that I asked twice for it to be moved to Revenue and Tax and it just stayed here so I did I did ask for it to be moved to Revenue and Tax I was surprised it was brought here but it's here so. Just. Thank you Mr. I mean a reserve Eubanks if you want to make a motion I take it but I'm not sure. What motion you can make. Any other other questions. Representative Bentley you're recognized. So I'm sorry I'm looking at the fiscal impact it looks pretty minor to me so. Correct it is very minor and actually I think grant Wallace can tell you that it's probably not even that excessive if you can share some numbers of the what is it that we we say that into those accounts yes thank you so looking at kind of the most recent data which would have been a March sixteenth we had an average account size of two thousand five hundred and eighty eight dollars with an average contribution size of four hundred and eighty dollars at that time they were out of the approximately seven hundred accounts there were only one hundred and thirteen accounts that had over five thousand dollars in them at that point. Any other questions. Seeing none is there anyone here in the audience to speak against the bill. For the bill. Seeing none of you read close for your bill I'm sorry. Yes you would come to the table introduce yourself and who you represent. You're speaking for the bill yes Sir okay you're recognized recognize. Thank you Mr. Mark George and I'm a parent of a child who has a able account. In fact my daughter Tessa had the second able account in the state right behind. This body berries child. I do it this isn't representative Mayberry said I appreciate that the state has. Permitted in incentivized. Able accounts for individuals I am a registered investment adviser and I know the benefit of saving for the future that's what this does I am an elderly parent. My child deal. route relies on me now will not have me around for a long time. So she is saving for herself. In the past when she was employed she took a great deal of her earnings and put them into her able accounts and. In some years that exceeded the five thousand dollar limit well it is to do it I believe in grateful. The firm as I think you can only put in fifteen thousand a year. And the entire tire account cannot exceed a hundred thousand. So there's limits to what can be done in a given year. But this helps for which she has a year that she contributes more than five thousand. Allows her to continue to get that tax benefits as opposed to why put five thousand in this year wait till next year and put in another three thousand Sir just go ahead and put in here in the eight thousand letting it continue just grow tax free. And capture that deduction overtime. And I think is this wall said. Right now all. A person can put in money. Into legislation trust and there's there's no fifteen thousand dollar limit on that they can get their five thousand dollar deduction and carry over the access. For up to four years. Another feature of an educational trust is that money can be rolled over tax free to enable account. So all I had in my opinion what this bill is doing is allowing able account owners to do directly but they can already do indirectly I could put money into an educational trust take the deduction spreader rolled over five years or for an extra four years. A rollover to are able account. So bill I'm not I'm sure there is necessarily a. Fiscal impact on this because people can already do essentially what this bill would or would allow. But it's important to to my calendar and others to have these in to have is flexible a program for contributing money. And not having to parcel it out over time if they can build account of early. Answer the question of somebody was put in twenty thousand L.. Good they need to be able to do that. And. Then they can benefit from that contribution over time and again if you if you do the numbers. Maximum of fifteen thousand your contribution up to a hundred thousand dollars total we're not talking about somebody being able to do unlimited amounts of money into this account over a long period of time because after about six years it's fifteen thousand you're you're maxed out. And you will actually even with a four year carry forward you'll be leaving money. On the table because you will never be able to fully utilize. Those deductions in that period of time if you're making a maximum contribution. So I support this I appreciate all the state is done with able Celts. I'm a big supporter of. Okay we do have one question represented person you're recognized and I'm very supportive of this I just had a question is do these accounts in any way affect their other benefit say their Medicare Medicaid or you know you need to know is missing SSI benefits student that that's one of the key factors of able accounts is they do not. Are not included in the person's calculation or the calculation of cannibal resources for any of the. Programs Medicaid Medicare of SSI any any of those programs that I would say Medicaid directly because typically people qualify for SSI first that are disabled and that automatically carries the Medicaid. Benefit with the thank you. All right any other questions from committee. Seeing none thank you for your comments. There. Okay the thing no further questions no one else here to speak on the bill representative you any clothes for your bill. You're recognized closed. Thank you members I hope you understand this is really quite a simple bill or just cleaning up some language and we are making sure that the able account is the same as the five twenty nine educational savings account just making it equal and I hope that you all agree that that's a good thing to do to allow people with disabilities to have equal access to the same type of savings account that someone who is trying to save for their educational purposes thank you. What's with the committee recentemente you're recognized. I have a motion of do pass from representative Bentley any discussion on the motion. Do pass as amended. Representative Eubanks you're recognized. Thank you Mr chair I don't think I object to what's going on here I just I would prefer that we would table it until I could get some clarification from the the revenue and. Tax chairman and possibly the Speaker I know it's a small amount and it's really immaterial when in the whole scheme of things but that would be my preference thank you. Any other discussion on the motion. Seeing none a motion on the floors do pass. it. As amended. All those in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. And seventeen resolution a bill is passed. Okay we'll move on to HR ten twenty four representative Ferguson you're recognized. Most of you know April is autism awareness month and that's what this resolution does it just proclaims April twenty twenty one is autism awareness and acceptance meant. And an interstate I will read the whole resolution I'll have them do that on the floor but autism is diagnosed today and one of every fifty nine children so I think it's important that we recognize it and and the. You know for all the people that are parents that are dealing with a man adults. Do you want me to read the whole or is you ready are you ready for questions. We'll hear that later any questions from committee. Seeing none is there anyone here to speak against the resolution for the resolution. Seeing ninety rate quotes for your resolution and caused. And I'm a do pass I have a motion do pass by representative Ferguson the discussion on the motion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Thank you motion carries. Okay SB two ninety nine representative winger you going to prison. You're recognized to present the bill. Thank you thank you colleagues SB two ninety nine it really is just technical corrections bill brought to us by the division of workforce services what it's trying to do is bring some uniformity among our state agencies and also bring us into federal compliance. Any questions from committee. Seeing none anyone here to speak against the bill for the bill. Seeing none you read close for your bill close for the bill. I have a motion. motion do pass thank you. The motion on floors do pass in discussion on the motion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Motion carries graduation your bills passed. Eleven Gassaway eighty is not in the room I don't think. So we will temporarily Passover. H. B. thirteen twenty four. And H. B. fourteen ninety eight. So we're down to H. B. seventeen forty six representive Underwood you're recognized to present your bill. And members there is an amendment coming around. Let's give the committee a little time to look at the amendment thank you Sir. Representive Underwood you wanna explain the amendment while it's being passed and. Yes thank you Mr chair all the minute does that a co sponsor Senate sponsor. I have a motion to adopt the amendment by representative Dotson. The discussion on the motion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Motion carries the amendment as been adopted you're recognized to present your bill as amended thank you committee I guess I should stop and under woods representative from district ninety thank you for your time today this bill makes a small change to the law that makes a a big impact plain simple this bill codifies existing department health guidance to not licensed and papers and exams those who provide simple hair styling services from being required to complete fifteen hundred training hours to get a cosmetology license to be clear this this is limited in scope shampooing and simple hair styling does not use chemicals to color dye or chemically alter the structure of hair nor does it limit nor to do these limited services use dangerous chemicals or devices. This bill does not change the scope cosmetology or change the cosmetology lot what cosmetology entails individuals who have commented cosmetology license will not be affected. Let me explain briefly about why this change is important. AnnaLynne McCord is a seventeen year old student at clover community community school he lives in my district. It is analyst dream she's here today by the way it is her dream to hopefully one day work and maybe one day own a hair salon. In order to do so She wants to begin her training as a shampoo assisting in a salon. I come first offer many beauty entrepreneurs. But anyway it also has the added challenge of having down syndrome this does not mean she can't provide shampooing Services and hair salon but it does mean that the current regulations make it much more difficult for her to enter the field. In fact AnnaLynne has started down a path and also don't have already by using a hobby of stitching these hands house which I brought one four yesterday just to see what she's what she's created and she sells these that way she can one day save money so she can open hair salon. I'm here today to ask you to support this bill to create opportunities for those aspiring those aspiring entrepreneurs like Anil and so many others who will he do want to ask to do not want to incur substantial that to become it took for a cosmetology school to work in a field of their choice this bill is a jobs bill it creates employment opportunities allowing others to provide simple shampooing and blow drying services without having to obtain a license gives individuals the ability to learn the trade and enter the industry. In other states do this as well that's what recognized their thirty states that exempt hair braiders from licensure. There are over a dozen states that allow shampoo or to work without a license. Arizona Minnesota Utah Virginia all out individuals who only cleans dry and styled hair to work without a license similarly to what this bill does. In the states individuals can earn a living without having to first spend thousands of dollars on unnecessary and expensive training. And blow dry bars are an emerging trend that has the ability to create many job opportunities for entrepreneurs across Arkansas. I also want to point out that allowing shampoo orders and simple hair styling is safe. The tools and devices used for the services are are just a space that safe as common products we use every day. Samper's and simple hair stylists only use combs brushes blow dryers and other similar devices. I'm license doesn't mean they're untrained. These entrepreneurs have taken the appropriate steps to learn how to safely provide these already safe services. Fax under our current Arkansas law we exempts licenses for similar services those who provide similar services for theater radio television motion picture production industries are exempt from having to have a license to do this. More importantly though this bill simply codifies the Department of Health tree interpretation of the natural hair braiders Act. According to the Department health the natural hair braiders protection act allows individuals to shampoo and condition hair without a license it safer braiders to wash condition dry in a range here then it's safe for other beauty practitioners to do so as well. So I wanna be clear we're not taking anything away from licensed cosmetologists I said we are expanding opportunities for skilled individuals you want into the beauty industry we should get government out of the way so we can help people like Anil and excel in our great state and I'll be happy to take any questions. The Ferguson you're recognized for a question yeah I am very familiar with blowout bars I've used those several states but I guess my question is it would they be at it's my understanding when I've gone to this lawyer or some other states they have a cosmetology license. So I mean that's a bigger concern for me than what you're talking about with which your bill limit these people to working in a salon where there is a cosmetologist so that you can be sure that they're doing the correct sanitation and all that or would they be able to work independently without a cosmetologist present so thank representative I appreciate the question and I would say there are states that permits these type of licensors there these type of services without a license altogether so this block but there's thirteen states that do that I mentioned some of those earlier I would say that there's two contacts that this would really occur and if this was a Kharqan occur one you would have somebody who's probably gonna work in a salon maybe a salon could if they wanted to they may not want to hire somebody but they do want to hire someone to do this it's going to be done in the context under licensed a cosmetologist the other contacts to be if you were opening your own business so you may not need to have a license in that context if you're open your own business but I would argue again I can mention these are very safe services that we do every day and so I think if you're capable of. Opening and running a very successful business I think that consumers are still gonna be protected by just then here ability of what it takes to run those businesses. Follows yes you're recognized what is there a license I mean I've been this lines for someone just washes your hair did are they licensed to some limited degree to do that limited service now in Arkansas it right so like I mentioned earlier it's possible that somebody could be providing shampooing services without a license depending on so like I mentioned the national hearing or act actually doesn't require you to have a license for shampooing purposes now it that's the way it's being interpreted currently that's what I was told that they do but you know they're not providing writing services it's unclear if that real could ever be change is possible under the cosmetology Act currently you're required to have a cosmetology license in order to provide championing services so it's a little unclear there is possibility for somebody to do that yes. And I do want to mention to take to your first question we're not changing the rules regarding sanitation of what requires to sanitise you're shampooing the ball or any that's that those rules are still in place or not changing any of that I guess my question would be I know there's like a limited cosmetology license just to do your nails maybe and so did this said you consider doing maybe a limited license just today the shampooing at. No I think that's a good thought that crossed my mind but the reason why don't they I just don't think it's necessary because I think like I mentioned these are these are very safe services anyway that we do every single day and there's thirteen states that's already doing it and they're not having any problems with that there's not you know major issues concurring in the states. Representative Allen you're recognized for a question. Thank you Mr chairman thank you for bringing this bill. What's that person start doing hair. Can they do things beyond. Washing hair without a license so at an I don't know if the my contacts but I will say this this bill allows them to shampoo blow dry and style hair but and that this is a good question so I've got to bring it up it does not allow them to cut here it would not allow them to use chemicals for coloring or or any of those type of things you would still have to have you have to have a full cosmetology license because I think that would present problems and we obviously need licensure for certain aspects of life and that might be an area that you might need to do that so we're not touching any of those type of things so follow hi how will you go about monies in this to make sure. Those other services are not being done. You mean as far as if they're if they're cutting hair and doing all those well all I am somebody who firmly believes in the rule of law right we can't people are going to not break the law I don't I can't tell you if they're going to break the law or not I got down the interstate everyday speed limit seventy five miles an hour see people pass me all the time speeding and they're breaking the law so I would say this law is very clear it's not ambiguous at all it does not allow them to do that if there if they go past that may be violating the law. Thank you. President Wardlaw you're recognized for a question. You don't ever go above seventy five though correct I had no comment. Any other questions from committee. That's the question thank you. Seeing no further questions we do have a number of people signed up to speak on this bill. We have six people to speak against and three to speak for so we'll start out with the person to speak against the bill. Wade strong. Representative Boyd you're recognized. May I make a motion to limit each speech to two minutes plus questions. Two minutes per person per sign the sign for just two minutes per person okay. The question. Yeah and then no not counting time for questions all right members motion to limit debate to two minutes per person. Non debatable. So. That's the motion all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Eyes have a motion carries. So Sir if you would introduce yourself and who you represent and you will have two minutes my name's Wade strong homeowner of Arthur's beauty college I have four campuses I'm against the bill for the purpose of this number's going to a store in is to tell of at all. Back when I was in school I was a an elderly gentleman came into my school time while I was getting my license. he had brocade he was a mess and he said I want hair cut like yours I said okay no problem. So I taken to shampoo Bocas he was a little. Thirty and it been for the purposes of sanitation I ask you if you mind if I gave him a shampoo for she said no gave him a shampoo I found the ticket. Right here on the back of his head about that big. I said Sir we probably need to remove that but I want you to know where it's at I'm not a doctor I've buys of say this is what I see finish the shampoo went through the hair cut. did the hair cut on and once I was finished with the hair cut and Stalin's beer and everything all rolled back its collar I want to clean up his. Net found another one is closed sponde I said some to about it I said there's another one he's like I swear I'm not dirty I'm not this I'm not that I'm not as I'm not a judging you I'm here to help you I'm here to clean you up get you set up where you want to be. We remove that to. Two weeks later. His wife came in and told me that he got very sick. And I thought he was going to die he said the gentleman who was shampooing my hair and gave me a hair cut found two checks I didn't think anything about it they ran it he had rocky mountain fever. He could not. I told the story to my school yesterday in Jonesborough because this bill was coming and I said what we're trying to constantly battle off the tearing away of our license fifteen seconds yes Sir girl in the school she went down started crying when I told her the story she said when I was fifteen years old my sister in law was braiding my hair founded I want into a coma. And a cosmetologist founded and she said I'm here today for and that's why I want to go to school. Thank you. Thank you for your comments thank you. To speak for the bill Jennifer mac where the mac Worster sorry from is that a. If you would please enter seventy represent. Thank you I'm Jennifer reporter from Rogers. I'm here to speak on behalf of for the house bill for seventeen forty six for England's Law. Our daughter in Lynn was born with down syndrome seventeen years ago this condition causes intellectual and developmental delays my husband and I worked diligently to make sure she has every opportunity to reach her full potential and aniline is currently a tenth grader at clover community school. I never imagined that she would have such big dreams. but AnnaLynne hopes and dreams to work and work in a salon in the future. She enjoys coming and styling hair she supported at her school to learn more about the careers in cosmetology however with the current laws in the state of Arkansas she will not be able to fulfill her dreams shall be heard if she's hired in the salon today she may only get to sweep the floors and folding washed House. AnnaLynne has the capability to do and learn much more than that just these tasks. AnnaLynne is compassionate empathetic schedule driven detail oriented and she enjoys being around people. On ziprecruiter dot com the job description for a salon assistant shows that the responsibilities and duties may include gathering supplies mixing colors shampooing hair sterilizing tools and general cleaning some assistance get the agreed the clients and schedule appointments you can work in a salon as an assistant to gain experience while going through cosmetology school although some states require you to pass the licensing exam before becoming assistant Arkansas does not. They don't have that opportunity to be the assistant. A if laws were changed that AnnaLynne could have the chance of lifting and becoming a hair stylist assistant. Having a hair stylist assistant benefits both the stylist and AnnaLynne. It would allow the stylus to accommodate more clients in the day which in turn generates more revenue in the salon it would also create jobs for people like Anil your time is up Senate thank you do we do have a question for you yes representative Ferguson you're recognized it it it sounds like what you won't that I would be okay with my my problem is the bill goes way beyond that to allow an license people to these blowout bars I think what I'm hearing you say is that you would be okay if she could change and do those things under the supervision of a cosmetologist in a beauty shop is that right yes yeah and I'm all of and certainly for allowing everybody to have an opportunity to work but I mean that's I'm I mean I'm probably going to vote against the bill but I want you to understand why it's because it goes way beyond allowing what you're asking for for your daughter. Any other questions from committee represent Dotson recognized. Thank you Mr chair and this this bills all about your daughter and having opportunities and just like to hear the end of your her story okay thank you. So it would having this change would also create jobs for people like AnnaLynne in the community to be productive members of the community to only earn income pay taxes and have a sense of accomplishment of the changes in the laws could open up jobs all across the state. Their hair salons in nearly every town in Arkansas there's in big towns and small towns so we hear all the time in network media print media and social media about the need to create environments for for diversity and inclusion now is the time we can make this change and set an important example to support for including people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Thank you so much. Thank you for your comments. Thank okay to speak against the bill of Paul Wilson. Paul Wilson in the room. Three one in the waiting room. You would go to the table introduce yourself and who you represent. Hi everyone my name is Paul Wilson I am the owner of the salon professional academy in look sure would Arkansas give two minutes thank you Basically what I want to say and non support of this bill is two things one we cannot lower the standards of the industry I feel sorry for the in the lands family and the things that they. Her her situation I don't know the proper way to address it and I can't certainly cannot relate to that situation but what I can say is that we cannot lower the standards for everyone else in the entire state let alone the country for a few individuals and I'm and I feel bad saying this because it is very insensitive but in the broader scope of things we have to consider everybody in the state myself I'm a former Air Force military pilot and when you go through pilot training the standards are set. If you don't make it if you can't meet the standards. You don't get to graduate you don't get to fly you don't get this to serve as a pilot DO not negotiable the great and we're not talking about military flying here we're talking about cosmetology barbering and all the other things that go along with that. So we're definitely talking about two different fields but my point is is that it's not fair to everyone else. Who is trained who has the proper skills and sanitation and all these other things that go along with cosmetology and barbering. For this in a lead however I think there is a solution here and I think a. This is this Ferguson kind and is hitting on this on a limited scope license I would support a limited scope license to allow people like Anna Lynn to be in the swine industry I think that's perfectly acceptable because that allows heard like a like a mother said to take pride to earn a living and have a sense of accomplishment and that's what we need in this country people need to be able to fifteen seconds learn achieve on their own and create things for themselves without the help of other people so they have that sense of accomplishment thank you we have a question representative clan you're recognized yes Sir. Thank you Mr chairman so just to help me to be clear on that current law if you wanted to hire an alien to just shampoo or assist in in the salon you cannot do that is that correct that's correct right now you have there is no limited scope license in the cosmetology section there is one in the barber in field of technicians license I believe that it's called So I think the what you're getting at the right answer to this situation is to create a limited scope license that will focus on the public health aspects sanitation safety and those things kind of like what Mr Wade strong talked about earlier those situations do happen and when a person is touching another person there is a public health. Risky they're now granted we're not talking about surgery just talk about washing here but is long as you understand the standards in your train to those. And also the state can forces for the department of health I think that's really what we need to do and a limited scope license would allow a person like in a land to get the proper training to work under in this line under supervised licensed cosmetologist that's really what I think needs to happen here to to solve everybody's concerns. Thank you thank you for your comments thank you very much. Speak for the bill Nathan Smith. Please introduce yourself and who you represent you have two minutes. Hello my name's Megan Smith and I'm a PhD economist of the Arkansas center for research in economics at the university of central Arkansas of strong interest in labor markets and I'm here to speak for my own view is not for not for you CA today we're grateful to representative Underwood for for running this bill H. B. seventeen forty six is a good bill it's to protect some people's right to earn an honest living again some red tape that we really don't need now as representive Underwood said it for the most part doesn't stick change the status quo there's a little bit on I think the blow dry cider may clarify things a little bit in the direction of the right to work but for the most part shampoo risen simple hairstyles can can work without a license now but this is to prevent license creep where the cosmetology board could potentially change the rules up and destroy some people's livelihoods so no the institute for justice alerted us to this they've looked into the safety side we look into the safety side a little bit and it's basically what you'd expect we also employer here we these dollar hair blue chair here this is very typical and you don't at risk by having a professional do that for you so. Hello. The only legitimate reason really to have a license is to protect public health and safety when that's not at stake it should be left individual choices to markets to figure out how the service is going to be provided and there's been a little bit of discussion of a limited scope license of those type of specially licenses really don't work it's too narrow there's not critical market mass to support the educational centers and so forth and labor markets need more fluidity than that ultimately this is a jobs bill of blowout bars can add some kind that some jobs can hire some people if license group doesn't get in the way that's labor demand that's good for wages that's good for employment so we're grateful to a representative Underwood for for really stepping up here in protecting people's right to work and thank you very much for your time and I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. Any questions from committee. Seeing that thank you for your comments. Okay to speak against the bill. And the Wilson. Maybe in the waiting room I don't. Okay. If you would please introduce yourself and who you represent and you have two minutes. My name is Andy Wilson I have been a licensed cosmetologist for twenty four years of owns the salon professional academy insurer would for fifteen. I'm a licensed educator I'm caught up on my hearing I also am the school member of seatac I also worked for red can for five years and traveled as a manufacturer representative so I've seen salons all over. Basically the country there's few states that I haven't been to but I am opposed to this bill and I have taken a few notes as to why one of the things that was said that. I have a heart for is I have three children all with varying abilities so I can understand wanting your child to be able to do whatever they dream of I also find that my children when they're able to accomplish and earn it would set them on fire even more so I do think that a limited scope license would do a lot of things for the individuals that are trying to do these things as well of this this the lines as well as protecting public health I see a lot of men in the room so I don't know if you've ever been burned by a blow dryer but I have and so even simple tools as blow dryers curling irons all of the tools that come with styling there is a risk to that and as being a school owner I've seen a lot of wild things happen not all of them are reported and if you don't have any oversight they won't be right there's no one to report it to you go to the doctor you get treated you move on about your day so without oversight it would it would cause problems and it does cause problems AS seatac we see a lot of hearings where a lot of nail fungus Murska those types of things that are spread I think also we're doing a disservice to the individuals that aren't trained in public health or sanitation that can just go to shampoo because if they're not trained to recognize some of these things I don't know that we're not they're not getting it is well so that would be a big problem for me I wouldn't put my child in the position not to be able to recognize the disease that then they could take on themselves and I will tell you people get angry when you turn them down for services because I turn people down for now services because of a fungus or something they need to get checked out and they say I'll just go down the street somewhere else your term is a we have a question for you representative Wardlaw you're recognized mmhm Mr my question may be better answered by the health department I see Matt Gilmore said over there but my question is how many these cosmetology schools that we have in the state how many do we have the state I don't know exactly. A. Do you objected to have and have one answer that question no income for. Charles Manson Attorney Arkansas Department health represent Wardlaw I don't have that now I don't have that off the top of my head I'd be happy to get with you offline and get that information and can you get in next five ten minutes I can I can yeah I clearly easy to pull it shouldn't it should be up on I think step out take a walk outside I'll give you a phone call to somebody if you would election yeah we will be here when you get back from. Representative Ferguson you're recognized for a question. Again I I just look because I live in West Memphis which you know most of my. Your cat is Memphis and they have a three hundred our program for Shane for someone to shampoo indeed limited services how difficult would that be for you to incorporate into your existing curriculum that wouldn't be difficult I believe that like Arkansas rehabilitation services and the grants that they give people it has to be at least three hundred hours I don't know for sure but so some of the funding that goes along with giving people the ability to achieve that education is also important and how many hours are determined okay Sir so you're saying maybe they would not qualify for Pell grant or something or I I don't think they would put qualify for a Pell grant but Arkansas we get a lot of Arkansas rehab. Grants because of we approach provide accommodations for lots of individuals whether they have IT peas or you know so that they do have assistance in passing these eggs exams so that they can become licensed would would you oppose just allowing someone to shampoo and work under the supervision of cosmetologists without going to school I think they need some type of training so even if it's a smaller scope than three hundred hours that would be much less expensive I don't know what that looks like but I think they need some type of training and then yes they should work under a licensed person for sure. That's the other piece of it that really bothers me is having facilities that aren't license because then an inspector won't go in and check those facilities for public health because they're not under there you know regulation so the only time they'll go in as if there's a complaint made and that's the problem that we're having with the rating bars right now yeah and that it's the it's it's help expansive the bill is is my problem if it were more limited I think I could before I completely agree. Thank you for your comments. next to speak for the bill. Kimberly Parker. Amberley Parker. Are you in the room. Okay okay could you would come to the table. And introduce yourself in the represent. Thank you and you have two minutes. My name is Kimberly Parker I'm I represent clover community school it's AnnaLynne school I'm the co founder and executive director of the school and I'm here to support AnnaLynne and ask for your help with H. B. seventeen forty six I founded clover community schools a small private school to serve K. three would you put your mind a little closer to better to serve K. through twelve students who are different learners we have a lot of students who learn very differently they don't work in a traditional environment a traditional school setting we do experience whole project based learning they learn all their academics both in the classroom and on our farm and we our mission for the school is that all of our students graduate and become adults with independent productive lives of purpose in a win is one of our students aniline is highly motivated to enter this field enter this career and she a license will not motivate her any further AnnaLynne came to us Having been selectively mute for two years she was with us for six weeks and never stopped talking it wasn't about someday she would get a diploma or graduation degree it was the work that we did with her and the way we train turn the way we taught her our fear is that we have so many students are not able to go out and enter into a cosmetology school or course in a traditional setting we are not suggesting AnnaLynne or anyone like AnnaLynne wouldn't be trained for this we actually work with AnnaLynne our school and many different things at other schools are not able to teacher we also look at this as a jobs bill a bill that will help students who can't learn in the traditional way fifteen seconds to have project productive careers I myself at an attorney I was an attorney and I have many people working under my license I lost clients evidence if I did not train my paralegals and I did not train my staff so I certainly appreciate the fact that someone working in a salon will not have clients if they do not do their job well thank you time is a. Seeing no questions thank you for your comments. Thank you very much. Okay to speak against the bill G. D. Mahoney. Please introduce yourself and who you represent. You have two minutes. My name is ed Mahoney and hi own state PD supply here in Arkansas and Thank you for let me speak our I'm here to speak of the nature of it's been a tough year for hairstyles these cosmetologists of struggle to get through this year with all the various things have been applied to a so it it's a tough here and they work hard these cosmetologists to many of many hours a day and so I I would just point out everybody that's been fort of basically as talked about a jobs bill well I'm worried that it's going to cost some jobs just a lot of people out here that have gone and done the right things and gotten a license and develop their craft and gained a reputation eight and they've gone through all that and it just seems to me we're we're kind of looking at not allowing that to happen I I fully agree with the idea of putting somebody through and let them learn the basics of washing here and support a cosmetologist I think that that's a great idea I think that's a good solution. Any questions from committee. Senate thank you for your comments thank you. Next to speak against the bill Shelley Platt. No against I mean against thank you. Please enter your seventy represent. Thank you for. You today my name is alley flat. I'm a license twelve turn your Mike gonna pull it closer to you. Yeah it's thank you for allowing me to speak to you today my name is Shelly Platt I'm a licensed cosmetologist I'm a licensed cosmetologist instructor and I've been working in this industry for over twenty five years and being experience behind my chair which is where I work the majority of the time. And I have nine stylus that work under me. our industry has been skewed in various various aspects of this industry along the way. And I I don't disagree and don't agree with a lot of the things that were said today. I do commend Annaly in for her drive and her value and her dreams and her goals I do also have a very close a relative that has asked burgers who wanted to cook so he went to Pulaski tech and he obtained a little degree there and he works for Zaxby's and he does preparing food and things like that but he was allowed to go and get an education. It's my understanding that infection control and infection and disease control is one of the most important factors in obtaining a cosmetology license that is a big deal with our industry today our job consist of many things related to the beautification and maintenance of the human body not only not only are these technicians dealing with tools that range anywhere from three hundred and seventy five to four hundred fifty degrees that are touching the hair and the skin but can also damage and burn. We're seeing a lot of allergy and skin related issues right now for people allergies being from products that are made on the market they can touch the skin and if you're not aware of that or you don't know the proper questions to ask a simple shampoo can call someone fifteen seconds the full sulfates and things in something can cause that cause them to break out. And. The professions that touch that humans can have all required to have some kind of education and our and for keeping our license is were educated in how to touch people how to deal with the questions that come arise such as just a simple shampoo touching your skin I'm sorry your time is up for any questions a representative class you're recognized for a question. Thank you Mr. Hypothetical question I understand that but please try to intrude best you can if if there was such thing as a limited licensure is there a job market for this particular group of people out there I do believe there is a job market for these people I believe that I actually a year ago approached. Some a representative and started a. Per se journey to create and on an internship inside our license. I do believe there is an aspect of having a shampooing assistant. Who is well trained and knows their job inside a salon it would help the stylus tremendously but I am not for. Them not being trained and them not having a license to do so. Representative Boyd you're recognized for a question. Thank you very much Mr so in my other job on the pharmacist and I'm concerned about treatment resistant head lice so what can you tell me about the normal proc protocols you would learn and put in place that the health department would hold you accountable you know to prevent the spread of life so that normally work so first of all we are not allowed to work on anyone that has a communicable issue from disease or head lice is communicable so we it's very easily spread if someone comes into the salon we have to know how to look for that we have to know how to recognize it and what to say to the client in order to have them sent to somewhere that can such as the head last Little Rock has a head lice clinic that kind of thing and if you do not know what you're looking for and you put your fingers into someone's head when you're doing a consultation before you shampoo or before you start of service and they have head lice and you run a comb through that. You put it back in your drawer you have already spread that had less to whoever else that come touches wherever that come ways whether it's on a counter whether it's on the surface if you laid on the ball if you do not take the proper procedures. You can spread have less very easily throughout a someone. Yes then just quick follow up so just to clarify then you you've been trained to correct learn how to check for lice and you wouldn't you would move forward is in that case no we would not okay thank you. Tino further questions thank you for your comments thank you. You have one more person signed up to speak against the bill Brandon Johnson. Who would please introduce yourself and who you represent. And you have two minutes. For. Hello my name's Brandon Johnson I represent Goodfellas barber shop Goodfellas barber college and I also work for United cerebral palsy you Seabees with special needs people at night time so I'm against this bill and it's a notion any that you know some point is just a simple thing is really not because it's a slippery slope is involved you have a thio bass relaxer. Diabase relax and hydrate blacks as if I'm shall appoint is out I have to know the difference between the neutralizer and just a sample which time to employ these samples now I understand they're saying that's not we're not using chemicals but when you say a shampoo with the kind of slippery slope is kind of you need to be regulated okay Another thing it doesn't just say shall point is we have current I was using a lot of thermal heat also and somebody on train on that can cause a lot more problems and like we say head lice and just being able to identify different problems such as ring worms in it has a ring worm been treated or not before I touch it or not you have to really go through hours of education to that I'm for continuing education I think every barber college R. barber and instructor or cosmetology's in because drugs used drugs should go through at least it and eight hours of continuing education so I am very sensitive to anybody with special needs what being able to come to the field but I'm sensitive to the fact that we do need to keep by certain standards involved because it's for the safety of the public different shampoos are are not just simply I'm medicated shampoos and medicated conditioners you know we have to be able to identify these and then when to employ these. That city of any questions and. Questions from committee. Seeing none thank you for your comments. All right is there anyone else in the audience who will speak against the bill. You will speak against the bill. Welcome to the table introduce yourself and he represents. Good morning my name is Merriam admin that is piccolo the financially director for Arkansas College of barbering and men's hi so I want to let you know it I'm not against this one technically I'm against the bill but I'm not against people like an island I want to make it clear I invite Mr Underwood and the families to visit our campuses we have two campuses here in central Arkansas we have schedules that would only require you to be on campus twenty five hours a week and we have licensed instructors that teach all of our students we make all necessary accommodations within our guidelines to assist their students we work with agencies such as the Arkansas rehabilitation to provide funding DHS or meet with counselors and parents to ensure that all parties on the same page for the student success are licensure rate is over ninety six percent for those that test and that is from a range of students that come to our campus we are not permitted to discriminate for who applies and who attends our school so we have people from all abilities all backgrounds attending. Our school an education will give you training with AnnaLynne I'm not just sampling but learning about skin and hair disease safety for yourself and your client during sanitation we've into a bit of business training I encourage you to meet with our school and our licensed cosmetologist to learn what chemicals would RC for you and our customer you only have to be sixteen and a half to enroll in a cosmetology school we do require a high school diploma due to federal funding that does require three hundred hours to receive the federal Pell grant why are I don't want to students like her to be truncated and their income due to their education level and their skill set I don't want to put their livelihood to be in jeopardy because he didn't know the difference between a blow out in a Brazilian blowout that may include chemicals like formaldehyde formalin and pair form really really let's educate ourselves don't limit it to just shampooing build a foundation that can help you become a successful business person in our community I really do encourage our students to get that training and to answer a few questions we do have fifty sixty schools in our state it's found on the Arkansas department of health website under training and testing and the cosmetology section. Any questions a representative glad you're recognized. Thank you Mr could you give us the approximate cost of the school please get our school for cosmetology is about twenty thousand one hundred eighty eighty dollars that includes tuition kit books supplies and all the items are going to be needing further testing the kit provides too many can head to their shares the clippers to flat irons blow dryers Wheeler said to all the products that they'll be using while they're in school students are always permitted to bring in their own lavender scented shampoo if they'd like but we always provide all of the basic items the not only get training in the cosmetology section not only just hair cuts but also a bit of makeup and skin and also nails. Representative Boyd you're recognized for quick. Thank you Mr chair for the opportunity for questions. So in twenty fifteen this legislature or a legislature not this one approved to people to braid hair has that impacted your demand for cosmetology school since that happened that you know of. We do know it and I encourage you to look at the prices of how much breeding is braiding is. Crazy expensive those ones can be regulated but there's also a lot of skill that comes with it there's different things such as box braids goddess braids microplate African breeding and there's different techniques as to how much skin With the cult like tension you can pull what kind of here would be acceptable my hair is not going to be the same as yours is not going to be famous his each of not I'm SMSS all of us are going to be different so if I go in there and they say I wanted to see a strand twist and he wants the same thing they'll do it. But is my hair gonna have damage and his isn't and then who do I complain to my mom my friends nobody's going to do anything whereas if we are licensed we can go to the appropriate ones saying Hey had you had the training they would now I'll give you a Knesset example I want to hear I want to hear everybody tells me I have to dye it blonde first bleach and I'm like but I don't wanna and like bill then you can't have blue hair. That's the kind of training because they know if I bleach it I know if I bleach it too much my hair will break but those are the kind of training that we want to ensure everybody has and the industry to make it safe and make us get the process that we want. Representative Wardlaw you're recognized for a question. Mr I think the health department has the answers if when appropriate times you agree with I'd like to bring back to the table and all questions further. A man can I get your name again Miriam. Adam anybody's piccolo PIC C. O. L. L.. And I apologize for speaking fast and we had two minutes. Thank you very much for your comic you Sir. US health department room. Please introduce yourself again. Thank you Mr chair again Charles Thompson attorney Arkansas Department health. earlier were asked how many cosmetology schools there were in Arkansas most current count I just got to represent Wardlaw is question is sixty eight because licensed cosmetologist in the state are approximately give or take fifty thousand depending on the day be happy to answer any other questions. You're recognized. It's come to my understanding that you guys are licensing any new cosmetology schools is that true or false and why if it's false archer Peter is one to my I represent I'm to my knowledge that I don't have not heard were not licensing anymore cosmetology schools in fact we just license one a year ago I'd be happy to run down I wasn't aware of that statement being made I'd be happy to run down any any math misunderstandings I'm under but I'm not under the impression that were not licensing any cosmetology schools right now okay thank you Mr. Thank you for your comments. members we've had two more people signed up to speak I think against the bill. So would everyone of you all come forward introduce yourself and who you represent. The written. The afternoon my name is Ricky Brandon with Arkansas barber Board I'm here to speak against the bill and I think they have covered everything that's pretty much important on the health and safety as a barber Board we used to have a technician license we've come to phase it out number one it was low demand for number two most of services are from ten to twenty five dollars what could you pay a person would be a minimum of two Deschamps who are to just been assistant so there was very little need for at the in the barber of industry in my last day to take you on the path everyone wants to do what they want to do when it comes to that and and I know we talked about the good things but naturally at the bar where we get felons we get all type and so we're able to regulate and and see that there is not people going in and been around our kids are on wanted to a person are see if the person is come out and rehabilitative so probably by going to class and so forth so that's what the Bible what does less of I want to be a mechanic but I only want to change the oil so I only change oil in the car what does that mean I can that damage. The engine are do away with the car so is there is a lot to do to this would be for you can just say just shampoo thank you for you to. Thank you for your comments. With one more person to speak against the bill. You would please introduce yourself and who you represent. Good morning my name is Lee bland I'm a student at Goodfellas barber college. Well the reason why I'm against this is this the only thing that tied into barbering and cosmetology one of the major things is the Bills the. Entailed a dry styling arranging a which may require cutting. And everything everyone speak to Senator sampling but the bill to speak to so much more so there's a wide scope that nobody's actually identify. So that we actually take the time and inspect. The fact is being that is state getting cases so much more I'm accidents look against. Because I haven't I I myself have to do fifteen hundred clock hours. To be able to be a licensed barber to be able to arrange cut style shampoo dry flat iron hair. So just saying Hey someone who's not license to be able to do it. Is rather have that or how might I say. Without the. All right thank you for your comments. All right the committee that is everyone who is signed up to speak. On the bill. So representative are you ready to close for your bill. Thank you Committee I've got some notes here and I will take too much time but they're gonna have has it so I'll just for that I do want to say first of all thank you so much for taking your time and there's a considering this for AnnaLynne and and my constituents I greatly appreciate that a couple of points. You know I know there's some discussion about how far this bill goes but this bill is a very limited niche service so it It shampooing blow drying and styling Services it is not cutting it is not coloring is not using many of those those chemicals there's been some talk about training and I just want to correct an incorrect and assumption. We're talking about training we can't quite that to licensure all jobs require some training that doesn't necessarily mean that that training needs to be mandated or dictated by the government so I just want to clarify that Represent classes question earlier now do I wanna make sure I don't I said is clearly enough under the cosmetology Act it requires any cosmetology license to project hearing services under the natural hair braiding Act you you that's actually exempt under that act so there's it's unclear whether you can provide that are not so with my discussion with the board of cosmetology if you're providing shampooing services they will deem you a natural hair braiders so you can provide the services so I I I know if I said that clearly earlier just want to clarify that. on consumer protection I think again these are these are safe issues and this the services are very safe I think it can be market driven consumer driven so the number one thing that people look at when they're looking for these type of services is word of mouth Google and yelp reviews one of the last things that consumers wait on this is whether somebody has a government license and so look if if people are not providing safe services or not doing something well they're not gonna be able stand business doing this people are not going to be when I go to them to see them and as for shampooing goes the worst thing that can happen is you just take change shampoos so it's not gonna do a ton of damage on the type of product that's being used. You can go to Walmart and purchased these directly from Walmart go the second self checkout there's no in in a in a minimum age nobody. Ask for your ID so they're not dangerous same with flatirons any of the blow dryers you can buy those strict one more and fax the lawns sell them out of their salons to people to use outside of the government supervision and the last thing I'll say because I don't want to take it to its ninety for a lot. I think somebody mentioned this here. It takes twenty thousand dollars you incur twenty thousand dollar debt to go to cosmetology school. This is a jobs bill we don't need you to encourage twenty thousand dollars of debt to provide these very limited services so just last comment I know there's been some discussion about you know whether or not we should provide like a limited license or anything like that and also you I think this is the best bill I like the way this is structured I will respect the commission the the the wrist the what the committee wants to do for sure of what you guys might be I'll do that I will say though other states already do this without this licensure Tennessee actually had one for a limited scope somebody mentioned earlier people don't utilize them because there's not as much money to be made in getting those licensure and actually Tennessee repealed they're limited license so I don't like that route as much but again I will respect the wishes of the committee but that appreciate your time. President Gonzalez. Okay I think it's proper time which motion. I have a motion of do pass in discussion. Do pass as amended. The representative where you're recognized thank you Mr chair and representive Underwood I know I talk to you about this already and so I'm very supportive of what you're trying to D. I think kind of two different representative Ferguson's point is I'd be very supportive of someone working underneath a licensed cosmetologist to do this I don't even think that I would require a limited license just as long as they're working underneath some supervision which would then keep them under regulatory authority so me personally act I will vote no today hoping that you would come back in amended if it does doesn't passage would come back in amended to narrow the scope of your bill. Thank you. Any other discussion on the motion representative Pilkington you're recognized president under one one thank you for bringing this to us and I want to thank a Senator Davis for throwing her support behind this I know this is very important to her heart you know it's interesting for a lot of us during the twenty one campaign we talked again our cans is back to work reducing licensure in the state of Arkansas and I think this is us fulfilling a campaign promise you know there's a there's a bit of me that was kind of chuckle to myself I think about is you know what our founders thank you know we overthrew British Tierney Senate debate whether or not the state allows someone to shampoo hair not How far we've come I guess so it was at that time support for this bill to get jobs bill that's what we as good Republicans need to do thank you. Representative Wardlaw you're recognized a second representative grace notion and not too will vote no today but would be very supportive of them working under a license not having a limited license. Any other discussion. Representive Underwood before we vote what is your decision do you want to go ahead with this or do you want to look at an amendment your I just want your opinion. So just wanna make sure I'm okay with voting on time what want to do that if you vote no I'm not gonna hold against you I appreciate your comments I really do appreciate the feedback and if the if it fails I will amended I will bring it back and to try to transfer out something that's satisfactory to separate committee so the motion on the floors is do pass as as amended. All in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. We say the ayes have it. I think I saw at least two. Roll call. Representative Wardlaw. Representive Eubanks. Representative McGee. Representive Johnson yes. Representive Miller. Representive Miller. Representive Payton. Representive Payton. Representative Bentley. Yes. Representative great. Representative Gonzalez. Representative Boyd yeah. Resented Allen no. Representive Coleman no. Representative Pilkington yes. Representative wing. Representative Penzo. Representive Penzo. Representative Perry. Representive Davis. Representive Davis. President of clown yes. By share Ferguson. No no. Surely do yes. A representative your bill is fail. I think it's chair thank you committee for your time thank you. All right Committee here's what we're going to. Change the agenda a little bit. Without objection I want to move a couple people up because they have to be to judiciary this afternoon representative Crawford. you're recognized to present HB seventeen fifty six. You're recognized thank you Committee. today I present to you an opportunity to create a lifetime license for a journeyman electrician to match the current law for the masters electricians lifetime license currently a journeyman elected electricians over sixty five minutes paper the journeyman license each year a lifetime license would be paid once at age sixty five for all future years the lifetime masters electrical licenses paid once at age sixty five. So in this bill I have talked actually to the electricians union there okay with this I've talked to the Arkansas department of labor and that may help me craft this bill so this came from one of my constituents and I'm sure there are other art Kansans that could benefit from the outset and I will take any questions. Thank you committee any questions of the representative Boyd you're recognized. Representative Crawford thank you for bringing this forward they have continuing education or anything once they turn sixty five if they had a. Lifetime license right well great question I asked the same thing they are limited in what they can do once I get this license so they can not get paid for any job or do a big job they can only do home projects or if their church wanted them to do so with that there is no continuing education. Any other questions from committee. Seeing none we don't have anybody signed up to speak for against the bill his or. Three one the audience here to speak against the bill. For the bill. Representative Wardlaw you're recognized. I have a motion do pass any discussion on the motion. I just wanna say thank you for bringing this bill I have a brother in law who's in that situation he selects do few odd jobs so I think it's great bill. any other discussion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay moshing carries congratulations bills passed. Okay representative Wardlaw as for me he has to be judicious afternoon so we're gonna go back up to HB sixteen sixty four. You're recognized thank you Mr we don't agree here this bill we heard of week or two ago we fill those concerns amendments on members on was a was attended and those sections were struck in this bill is ready to go now so I'll be happy to take any questions and there is a second bill being filed that was in that motion this morning there be heard this afternoon that addresses a twenty five thousand dollar fine it takes it down to up to a five thousand dollar fine so we're doing away with that huge fine that was in this bill that is now no longer in this bill. Any questions from committee. Seeing none. Anyone here to speak against the bill. For the bill. Seeing none you close for your bill I make a motion do pass I have a motion do pass and discussion on the motion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Motion carries graduation your bill is passed you're recognized to run H. P. sixteen eighty nine. Thank you Mr chair committee this is a bill that. Makes me very happy as you guys well know in my going on eleven years down here I try to kill every task force bill I see some get by me without me being aware. This bill is not a task force bill this bill commissions public health which is the way I've always believed we should do it we should use our current committee structures but it uses public have to set up of a way to look into mental health it's it's a chairman ability to call a meeting within the first sixty days past session to start addressing mental health throughout the state it gives us guidelines what we should look at what should we should do over the next two years to form legislation to fix our mental health issues with that I'd be happy to take any questions. Any questions from committee. Seeing none. Anyone here to speak against the bill for the bill. Seeing none ready close free bill make a motion to pass I have a motion do pass any discussion on the motion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay moshing carries graduation your bills thank you Mr Committee. Okay we're gonna jump down to. S. B. three eighty seven representive cloud are you ready to present the bill. You're recognized. Thank you Mr chair thank you Committee. Senate bill three eighty seven as a companion bill to Senate bill two one two it is concerning basically treatment for the pandas we have had a force I guess dock missed a representative Wardlaw task force that we have extended the pandas the. Pediatric autoimmune disorder and from the streptococcal infections that Senate bill two twelve went thirty three zero in the house in the US Senate ninety five zero in the Senate what a Senate bill three eighty seven does is it allows Medicaid to pay for the I. B. IG treatment which is the treatment for the pandas central there's no. Opposition to this talked to Department of Health DHS no opposition. Representative Wardlaw you're recognized for a question thank you Mr does this bill reflect the same language we put in the other pandas bill on the task force so we put language in there for public health. At the this is not the same bill okay I didn't can I thought I heard you say this is companion bill to that it's a separate bill but it since we have the task force and UAMS and children's hospital or involved in we have the pandas clinic now then this is the the treatment for pandas okay thank you all this bill does is allow the Medicaid to cover the immune globulin treatment. Resented Boyd you're recognized thank you Mr chair representative cloud immunoglobulin as you know was and rather expensive therapy would you expect that those costs would be offset by the whether their education or other Medicaid expenses you know that we would you know we're incurring these do you think that we would see savings over here and other places once we implement this absolutely and and you are correct anywhere from two thousand to six thousand dollars per treatment it is very expensive but it is the treatment for this disorder. And it is limited there's not a huge number of people in our state right now that have the pandas but it is extremely effective. Seeing no further questions is there anyone here speak against the bill. For the bill. Seeing none you to close for your bill yes Sir I am this Senate bill three eighty seven passed thirty five zero in the Senate I appreciate a good vote I make a motion to pass. I have a motion of do pass the discussion on the motion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye All opposed nay. Motion carries graduation bills passed thank you. Okay. Is representative Brooks still here. I'm. Representative Brooks I've got a question for you yes Sir We only have limited time here. you think you can do this bill in about five minutes I anticipate they will not take five minutes knows or in fact I just got off the phone with represented Fuhrman who is still in the hospital with his wife there's a chance he may be here this afternoon depending upon what her OBGYN says so what you're recognized on the bill at H. B. sixteen sixty seven are you prepared to do that I would say we will not be a five minute bill it's it's likely to be something that would take considerable time most likely all right let's this delayed till this afternoon okay thank you Sir appreciate thank you. At. I think I've heard that before but which one is it. Senate bill one forty. All right you're recognized. Okay committee is Senate bill one forty three it's on the agenda of them three quarters the way down yes and I don't have it with me at the moment Senate bill one forty three what you guys had asked is there was some language that set up a rather large Advisory Council for rare disease and so what I did is we struck that entire language out and we just added to positions to the do you are board that dealt with rare diseases. So there were no other issues to my knowledge with the rest of the bill. So any questions from committee. Do you need more time to look at the bill they may need more time. Representative Gonzalez you're recognized thank you Mr disappoint This positions. He would appointed positions I would assume it would fall underneath the normal purview of the do you are bored I don't know that for sure I guess would be it be the governor but the ever currently appointed the U. R. board as he would continue to point these positions. The H. S.. Any other questions that answer your question representative Gonzalez yes is right here on page two line twenty five the HA shall appoint two individuals. Any other questions. Seeing none anyone here in the audience to speak against S. B. one forty three. For S. B. one forty three. Seeing none. Representive Bentley you're recognized for motion. As a motion to pass any discussion on the motion. Question have amendment. Right. I have a motion of do pass all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Congratulations your bill is passed. Representative Brian you have to bills do you have a small short bill along bill. You're recognized the short building tells which one that is. Senate bill. The S. B. two fifty nine yes Mr okay committee this is S. B. two fifty nine. So representative Brian you're recognized to present S. B. two fifty nine thank you Mr chair with your permission altering Denise Oxley with corporate help yes. Please introduce yourself and who you represent. Denise Oxley department of labor licensing. You're recognized to present the bill thank you Mr chair that this was brought over by our labor license and so I let them. Ms Oxley sees me go into a little further but apparently during the transition there's some language that was not codified that. Because it they're agency to be doing things that were perhaps they should have been so I'll explain how we got here. the Arkansas heating ventilation air conditioning and refrigeration board has been issuing a a inspector's license for municipal HVACR inspectors for a about sixteen years when they came to the department of labor licensing and we were reviewing rules it became apparent that they did have specific legislative authority to issue that license or charge that fee. So we're seeking that now just to clarify the board's authority the board has some general authority to establish an inspection program which they apparently relied on at the time That the board and the current board in the secretary would like to speak to. Get that specific legislative approval. So it's not a new license. All right any questions from committee. The representative Wardlaw you're recognized. If you go to Page four. His line nine it looks like you're adding in a class the license at twenty five dollars and and that's the license I guess you're for today been charging yes Sir for sixteen years and they've been charging twenty five dollars yes pursuant to rule that they adopted rule that were not legal well. Could question believe my legal advice to the board is to get the specific legislative authority to issue a license and charge the fee apparently they relied on some broader authority to adopt the up by rule a code inspection program. But I don't my advice to the board was that's not specific enough to issue a new class of license and issue a class of license and charge a fee they need specific authority to do that. Yes ma'am Mr. Yes a few years ago we clarified that And said you had to have specific legislative authority to be able to do that and it hat and any rules to follow had to be approved by legislative counsel is that not correct that is correct these particular rules were adopted in two thousand and four okay thank you Mr. Representative Gonzalez you're recognized for a question. How many of these people who have license in the state now about three hundred three hundred into the last I checked which would have been January. And that's an annual fee of twenty five dollars yes Sir it's about seven thousand five hundred if my mass right a year. Okay what's that money used for right now we're provide the apart from the program in general we provide free annual training to those municipal inspectors which is the main goal and purpose of that program is to get often municipal inspectors do not have. The small cities cannot afford to have a plan at plumber and an electrician that you don't just have one code inspector and that code inspector may be a plumber or an electrician or in the or H. BA they may be referred. A former teacher you know so mostly that she's for training and assistance to the to the local municipalities okay how much money is an account now what's what's the balance that fund balances about half a million I believe I don't can't tell you the exact amount. But I'd be happy to to get that to you you have one more follower okay so how much of that do you use per year for training. Not more than the seven thousand I mean the training the annual training is. Used for out of that seven thousand it's collected. That. Most of that fund balances may that from the private sector license fees. Okay all right so it's all going the same it of all going into the same yes thank you representative Boyd you're recognized. Thank you so so I I maybe miss something so this is primarily used for inspectors. Inspectors municipal inspectors yes okay so as part of the training the you include any customer service on how to appropriately treat the the people there inspecting. We're training municipal inspectors on technical issues in terms of code compliance mostly yes. Representative Dotson you're recognized. Thank you Mr chair so this. Can you talk to me about this class T. Lysons that. It that it has been I guess there but is not really been there yes Sir what happens if if it goes away my advice is that we. My advice to the board is not to. If this bill does not pass that they do not issue the license or charge the fee. And then they will re evaluate the rest of that inspection program. Okay so for for the municipal inspectors out which is primarily with the explaining what what did they. What did they do that would be lacking if that program goes away. What do our inspectors to or the municipal inspectors. Will I get to start this new twenty five dollar fee and and license what what exactly are they doing right now that they shouldn't be doing that they would no longer be able to do it this licensed if what they will has to okay I'm sorry I didn't and what they will have to the board will re evaluate their free that the training they have been providing to those municipal inspectors on an annual basis. So we're just talking about training only for the municipal inspectors yes and those are those are like I said often times municipal inspectors particularly in small towns. They do not hire a an electric shouldn't Anna Palmer and that so there they they'll have one code inspector who may have limited construction knowledge or construction experience with respect to what they're inspections are are and so that's what they do we do the same thing with electric shins we provide the training electrical training for those city inspectors thank you. K. Singh no more questions no Payton representative pain you're recognized. Thank you Mr so I'm kind of confused but looking at the license in the fee schedule. This appears to be a lower class of license and you're talking about. Inspectors who are are not necessarily professionals in the field that they're inspecting that's correct yes there. Overseers of those that have more training and and higher level of licensure and the other one with the authority over that yes Sir we don't tell this state is not told the municipality to they have to hire for building inspectors are what their qualifications have to be seems upside down thank you my either many of our licensees will complain that. That is true. All right now see no further questions. anyone here to speak against the bill. For the bill. Seeing none of your clothes for your bill close Mr. It was will committee. Senate board. I make a motion to pass okay I have a motion do pass by representative Boyd I have a discussion. I have hired the people you're talking about. The mayor and you're absolutely right they don't have the background in all areas I was lucky enough to find a person who is a retired HVAC person had his own business for thirty years and was knowledgeable. There are people out there like that who are knowledgeable in one area but it worked in the industry so they understand electricians mechanics and so for me but. They do need certification and years ago there was no certification to my knowledge. So I think this is not a perfect bill I understand that but I think it's good to have at least a limited certification and limited training. So if it gets to me I would vote for this bill absent Boyd you're recognized thank you Mr chair I just I would also like to address I plan to vote for this bill but I would hope that there's also training and one positive interactions with the people that they're overseeing I would also hope that there would be training and how to recognize when you're in over your head and call for back up so just just my thought. Yes good if we work closely with those municipal inspectors so they know that they have the back up from the HVAC R. board in the inspectors to know that they will call us yes we work hard on building that relationship all right let's go back to the discussion pays any any other discussion sorry. All right motion on the floor is do pass all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. No seven. Thank bills fill. Thank you representative and that was the easy one. Okay lunches here but I have one with the question representative Lunsford is your bill easy. That's a lot. Is trained is that okay the Committee we're going to recess. For. Okay we're gonna recess for ten minutes to go get your food women represent Ferguson's going tell you how this works okay okay the the small the big box with potato chips in it those are turkeys in the small boxes roast beef and so if you need a there's not a drink in the box so if you need a drink you may have to go make a or B. to get a drink. Is there some in the fridge okay there's some in there so if you want one you may get a pro line. Okay members if you will continue to go ahead and eat your lunch but what I want to do is I'm gonna gavel in here in a few minutes and we're gonna look at some try to run a few non controversial bills Sullivan so getting your seats and be ready we're going to start in a few minutes. Okay I wanna call us back in. In session. And what I want to do we will adjourn at twelve thirty. Plus or minus a minute or two we'll try to get out so you have plenty time to get up to the floor. but during this next thirty or thirty five minutes. We'll try to go back and pick up some of the smaller bills may be on the consent agenda. And some others and try to get a few bills run in that time period. So. I'm gonna go back up to the go down to the consent agenda. And as I said we're passing over SB sixty five that'll be this afternoon because they're people not to speak on that are that are not here now. S. B. one fifty two Senator hammer I guess did not make it back over here. I don't see him anywhere. Yes we can get over here we can run that. H. B. seventeen eighty one representative Johnson. Representative gray you're recognized run HB seventeen eighty one. A seventeen eighty one. Thank you Mr chair. It had. There's an amendment okay. How much of members come round representative Payton you're recognized. Thank you Mr could I ask for house bill eighteen thirty five to be placed somewhere on the agenda yes. H. B. thirteen eighty five eighteen thirty five eighteen thirty five. All right well of. I want to suspend the rules and add H. B. thirteen eighty five eighteen thirty five eighteen thirty five I'm sorry State zero C. R. one suspend the rules and add H. B. eighteen thirty five. To the bottom of the agenda in discussion on that motion. Barlow. All of them. Those questions. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Motion carries. Okay. Representative great you're recognized to present HB seventeen eighty one all right thank you Mister chair I think believe we have an amendment going around for it right now be passed out and that amendment just clarifies the definition of beneficiary limits this bill to adult beneficiary. So I make a motion to adopt the amendment at the proper time. The president Boyd you're recognized. Representative great thank you for bringing this amendment hi could you define adult force. Seriously okay. I believe it's nineteen and older with Medicaid but could be wrong that record of eighteen. Yes. Regular Medicaid there was two changes actually right the change from a Medicaid to an adult male and adult Medicaid. President Dotson you're recognized. I guess I'm curious as to why we're wanting to limited to just adults okay so the clarification right now children get an unlimited number of prescriptions and so there was a little bit of worry that if we didn't clarify that what we're doing in this bill was for adults only it might carry over to children actually limit their prescription okay that makes sense thanks okay. Any other discussion. Okay. I have a motion to adopt the amendment. Any discussion on the motion saying none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Motion carries your members adopted you're recognized to present the bill thank you Mr chair so I'm running this for a representative Johnson but part of this bill is actually something that I had asked for so cut it to two different things in this the first thing on a is that Arkansas Medicaid program shall the beneficiary to have six prescriptions per month so the way in that it currently works is that Medicaid adult Medicaid beneficiary gets three prescriptions per month and they can get in the extensions up to six prescriptions per month now that requires actually it actually applying for the extension it's not hard to my knowledge most I was like a hundred percent of extensions get approved so all I was asking for and what this bill allows is essentially to do away with having to apply for the extension of benefits to get the six and just let you go to six automatically. and then the part in the bill it's representative Johnson wanted was to you and essentially what he's at the program shall not count of medication for any of the following conditions are treatments towards the prescription benefit cap and that's essentially maintenance meds for high blood pressure a cholesterol blood modifiers diabetes or inhalers so those would not count towards the six limit prescription and this is something that I've always wanted to do is look that expanding for years and years and I would like to thank the H. S. from the table for working with us this session to try to expand some Medicaid benefits. Representable you're recognized thank you Mr chair representative great isn't it true that this automated that this process was an automatic automated waste of time for providers for years yes that's very true thank you. Any other questions. Yeah. You may have a question. Seeing none. Anyone here to speak against the bill. For the bill. Seeing none are you close for your bill I'm close Mr chaired make a motion do pass as amended. I have a motion do pass as amended any discussion on the motion. That sent board you're recognized can you make a note that I'm just present on this boat thank you. No. Yes I'll make that note the lead on the record Boyd is present. Any other discussion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Hi seven most in cares resolution bills passed. The representative Ferguson. You're recognized to run S. B. one fifty two. S. B. one fifty two committee on the consent agenda. Thank you Mr chairman thank you committee of you know this have to be agreed to bill when the senator Hammer said I could read it for you so Of it it's agreed to bill between the medical board and everybody physician's assistants all it does it puts a physician assistant on the medical board which is not unusual I'm a dentist or dental hygienist on the dental board it also allows them to write a prescription in certain situations like if the physician has previously written prescriptions and it's just for five days and if it's being initiated the last six months and it allows them to sign the death certificate so I mean it's it's agree to bill with all the parties. Representative media question. The motion. President Gonzalez. Question. They don't ask me too many questions is not my. this is are to be pretty easy so it says on here and and I realize that this is existing language But there. And make these appointments after consultation with the medical society so medical board has a duty to protect the public right and and and the state's interest in the medical society is amended they exist to protect the profession so you think it's appropriate that we have consultation with correct what we what lands webpage Leding things are one line okay thirty three. Okay. Page one. And. Well I think the reason the society recommending appointment right I think that the reason I do that they do that now the societies like the dental association the medical society they make recommendations to the governor but the governor doesn't have to appoint who they recommended he hasn't the last two times so that's that's just common practice of what's done now yeah I understand the sponsor I realize it's existing language and in there but right just asking if you thought that was appropriate that that we have a group that's supposed to be representing the profession appointing people to a board that's supposed to be representing the the. Public safety of the people well in a it's a little bit different relationship with physician physician assistant you know they work a little more closely and are under the sign board is the as a representative Brian. So I mean it's this is agreed to with the board and Senator hammer in the physician assistant so correct. Thank you. Any other questions. Second seeing none anyone who speak against the bill for the bill. Seeing under a closed closed Feb motion do pass a motion do pass in discussion on the motion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Guys have a motion carries your committee I will take Senator Hammer that I passed this bill. Okay. Let's go back up to the top of the agenda again. Okay of. Representative Wayne. Yes B. two ninety nine. Okay. Thank you. Yes. The representative Gazaway is not here. Representive Eubanks of you had to leave or you are on that bill. Do you have to leave right away. Parkway. You get them right. Okay committees S. B. two ninety six by Senator Stubblefield. Representative banks you're recognized. The. Thank you Mr chair Senate bill two ninety six by print Senator Stubblefield like the of the title states it's then act prohibit the videotaping or sharing the photographs of residents of long term care facilities I think there's been the opportunity where there's been maybe some abuse where. Pictures have been shared when they didn't have proper authority or permission to do so and this is a DHS bill I'm not aware of any opposition and if. Mark wants to share anything else. If you would please introduce yourself the represent thing Westerman Marquardt with department services yeah current law all party prohibits photographs being shared so what we're doing is we're setting video tapes and social media that. President Dotson you're recognized for a question. Thank you Mr mark and I just the only thing that kind of concerns me a little bit about this is and and I'm I'm skimming through it real quick so you might be able to just answer this If a visitor or someone is doing like a Facebook live or if there having a birthday party with. You know Graham are something like that and they have another resident walking by or walk through or unbeknownst to them but now that's out there is this going to is there an accidental exception somewhere in here so that we don't make a my I have a class B. misdemeanor or some sort of problem right it's that there's not an accidental exception but I would say in that is instance worst incidental and the person sharing it didn't do it intentionally I think that lack of intent is going to protect them on in that case hi this is good getting in cases where someone intentionally shares they've taken a photo or taking a video or put on social media someone that portrays a long term care resin without their consent that's the only time this would come it is when that happens intentionally I thank you for saying that do you have that where you can point to in the bill I'm. Let us photograph is one thing because obviously there there's published intent in that but Facebook live is you can't control that all the time. I'll say that going back to curl statutes there's a general intent requirement and I don't have those those concessions from is I have to pull that throwing give that to you but certainly if we look at we can pull this time look at this if the sponsors comfortable on also it for you all. Thank you. That yeah I'm more than willing to pull it down if you if you if you need that particular reference I mean if nobody else has a problem with it we can vote on it and and then if if that comes back and that's actually an issue if you're willing to bring it back here and amended if just to make sure that clarified I'm I'm more than happy to let it out here so we don't have to yeah that's an issue I have is sent back to committee okay thank you. The representative Boyd you're recognized. Thank you Mr chair and so and maybe I miss this and I apologize if I did so what happens like if somehow they invite the news in and the news takes it and then I share you know a new story would that fit in here not that be problematic for mayor or would there is there an exemption somewhere it if the if the home allows the news media and and that type situation that's that's a hip issue for that home because the they've got some input it will hit the liability there or they violated federal law by the train the confidentiality of those residents so that's and that's already covered and federal law. Any other questions from committee. Representative Payton you're recognized. I just like to. Number one I have the same questions representative Dotson and and I'm skimming it really quick and and I don't see the cure for that but let's say that you're visiting a relative and you witness some sort of. Abuse or something and you try to get a videotape of it how are you gonna be in trouble for doing that. All the short answer is knowing that comes under the realm of reporting things to the you know if your report that to law enforcement or office long term care this is where your takes when you're sharing that outside look on social media we're publicizing that thing and that's that's not that that for folks after if the if they're videotaping wrongdoing ensuring that proper authorities that would not be covered by this act okay thank you Mr. Any other questions. Seeing none as anyone here in the audience speak against the bill. For the bill. Scenery close for your bill. I'm closer to a representative Dobson's okay with this I make a motion to pass. We have a hesitant do pass we have a do pass on the floor a discussion on the motion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Hi seven most the bill is passed. Okay we're we have here. Is Penzo here. Represent Penzo. But the clean up this. Did claim rent three. Is there anyone here. That. Has been asked to run S. B. twenty seven Senate senator garner's Bill. No one in the room. Yes B. twenty seven by senator garner. Suicide prevention hotline. I didn't have a. Okay I did I didn't see how sponsor but you wanna run it represented Wardlaw. Okay committee this is S. B. twenty seven. President will bill thank you Mr. It says the department shall ensure that suicide prevention hotline employees individuals who have experience working with veterans and who are veterans are who are veterans and saw so basically what he's saying here so they have experience with basic. Combat issues so that they can help assist our veterans so awesome bill but it does say or did not say or okay. Yes it does. I had any questions from committee. Seeing none anyone here to speak against the bill. For the bill. Scenery close for you bill I make a motion to pass I have a motion do pass any discussion on the motion. Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Thank you Is haven't motions passed because the bill is passed. Representive gray. H. B. eleven ninety two. is that a. Well we better not run it. Well we're we're down the you on the agenda so if you want to try it we can always stop if we can get through it. So committee is HB eleven ninety two. Thank you Mr chairman so are actually right I ran this bill earlier in the session and to. We got a little crazy with the motions and it we ended up not passing it at. The earlier in the session is because a we were trying to limit debate. And so essentially what this bill does I called the ten ninety nine bill but what this bill does is essentially strikes an exemption in state law. That allows personal care services to use ten ninety nines instead of W. to use or treat them as employees I'm just striking the exemption. I actually there was an amendment to this bill that was never engrossed because we did not take action on the bill. So does Mr price have the amendment. Or. I am an amendment for that then I would like to run it at a different time thank you thank you. Okay committee is not quite twelve thirty but at in unless someone in here has a. Like a consent bill or one that's easy to run someone that's on the committee. We could run one more if you had one. Sure eighteen thirty five go ahead go for. B. two hours. Thank you Mr chairman of firs any of opposition arises already referred to committee what your billing in its house bill eighteen thirty five House Bill eighteen thirty five members you're recognized and members so if your contractor in your fiction work on somebody's house or property there's of a lean and noticed that you're supposed to give the person that says if you don't pay me I can put a lien on your property and current law requires that lien notice be given in writing there's a form that they have to sign and that's all great and make sure that they know that that and current law says that if you don't. Give the notice in mental status yes sorry I've just been informed we cannot run this so after no problem thank you thank you for the information appreciate. I can finish we can go ahead give testimony to be fine so currently if you don't get that disclosure signed you cannot attach a lean to the property in the event they don't pay and that's all I'm not changing any of that but it goes one step further and current law and it says if you don't get the lien notice signed you have no remedies available to you beyond I know you can't sue for payment you can't take any legal action so so I'm leaving it all alone to where you have to give the notice and you have to have it signed in order to attach a lean to the property but I'm taking out the paragraph that eliminates all your other legal actions so that you could still you know tries to sue to get paid if they didn't pay you you just have to prove your case you can attach a lien without proving your case representative Boyd you're recognized thank you Mr chair sorry to inundate people with questions today but it is how the world if like they don't want to sign it how would you get it signed a man just out of here that's a great point that the my attorney is the one that brought this up to me when he discovered it existed like it does in current law they just totally removes their remedies and he said you know if somebody just report refuses to sign it and says you never offered it or something then you would have no legal course of action and so I I don't know of any opposition to this the paragraph in law the that goes that one step further. I don't know how it got there but I don't I mean I understand that you should give notice and you should have it signed if you're going to have the presumption of being right and getting the lien attached and then they have to prove they don't know what to get the lien off that all makes sense but then. To say that if they did they if they owe you you have no opportunity to go to court and prove that they owe you I don't understand why we would do that so it strikes that paragraph. And I presented this afternoon if I get chance all right thank you. well committee you will need time to get over prepare for the floor so I'm gonna go ahead and then we'll we will recess and