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April 6, 2023 ·9:00 AM ·Room 149 ·1:26:58
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Bills discussed (44)

Bill Title Sponsor Status
SB237 Act 762 · 5 mentions in agenda, chapter, transcript
Matched: “…blefield MOTOR VEHICLES OPERATED ON CERTAIN PUBLIC BRIDGES. SB237 A. Clark CONCERNING VEHICLES, BOATS, OR FARMING EQUIPMENT W…”
CONCERNING VEHICLES, BOATS, OR FARMING EQUIPMENT WITH A REMOVED, DAMAGED, MUTILATED, OR DEFACED SERIAL NUMBER … A. Clark Notification that SB237 is now Act 762
SB519 Act 783 · 5 mentions in chapter, transcript, agenda
Matched: “SB519 Irvin TO CREATE THE VULNERABLE PERSON PROTECTION ACT; AND T…”
TO CREATE THE VULNERABLE PERSON PROTECTION ACT; AND TO EXPAND PROTECTION OF CERTAIN TYPES OF … Irvin Notification that SB519 is now Act 783
SB238 · 3 mentions in chapter, transcript, agenda
Matched: “SB238 A. Clark TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF AGGRAVATED TRESPASS; AND…”
TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF AGGRAVATED TRESPASS; AND TO MAKE TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS. A. Clark Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
SB417 · 3 mentions in agenda, chapter, transcript
Matched: “…d Rep. Ashley Hudson REGULAR AGENDA Number Sponsor Subtitle SB417 G. TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING CIVIL LIABILITY FOR DAMAGE C…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING CIVIL LIABILITY FOR DAMAGE CAUSED BY MOTOR VEHICLES OPERATED ON … G. Stubblefield Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
SB455 Act 774 · 3 mentions in chapter, transcript, agenda
Matched: “SB455 G.Stubblefield TO AMEND THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE ARKANSAS STAT…”
TO AMEND THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE ARKANSAS STATE COUNCIL FOR THE INTERSTATE COMMISSION FOR ADULT … G. Stubblefield Notification that SB455 is now Act 774
SB524 Act 784 · 3 mentions in chapter, transcript, agenda
Matched: “SB524 J. Petty TO CLARIFY NONCRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK REQUESTS S…”
TO CLARIFY NONCRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK REQUESTS SUBMITTED TO THE DIVISION OF ARKANSAS STATE POLICE. J. Petty Notification that SB524 is now Act 784
HB1019 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…TO THE OFFENSE OF THREATENING A JUDICIAL OFFICIAL OR JUROR. HB1019 Maddox TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE CREATION OF A SPENDT…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE CREATION OF A SPENDTHRIFT TRUST; TO CREATE THE ARKANSAS … Maddox Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1088 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…NANT WOMAN TO GET AN ABORTION; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. HB1088 M. Berry TO AMEND THE DEFINITIONS USED IN RELATION TO THE O…”
TO AMEND THE DEFINITIONS USED IN RELATION TO THE OFFENSE OF THREATENING A JUDICIAL OFFICIAL … M. Berry Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1107 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…rs and Staff Only'. DEFERRED BILLS Number Sponsor Subtitle HB1107 Rye TO PROVIDE FOR REASONABLE CHILD SUPPORT FOR ANY SURVIVI…”
TO PROVIDE FOR REASONABLE CHILD SUPPORT FOR ANY SURVIVING DEPENDENT CHILD OF A HOMICIDE VICTIM … Rye Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1131 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…AND TO INCREASE THE PENALTY FOR SEXUALLY GROOMING A CHILD. HB1131 Hawk TO PROVIDE FOR RESTITUTION FOR A HOMICIDE VICTIM'S SUR…”
TO PROVIDE FOR RESTITUTION FOR A HOMICIDE VICTIM'S SURVIVING DEPENDENT CHILD WHEN THE DEFENDANT WAS … Hawk Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1141 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…OR NECESSARY MEDICAL CARE, TREATMENT, OR SERVICES RENDERED. HB1141 Lundstrum TO DEFINE THE TERM "CONSENT" REGARDING SEXUAL OFF…”
TO DEFINE THE TERM "CONSENT" REGARDING SEXUAL OFFENSES WITHIN THE ARKANSAS CRIMINAL CODE. Lundstrum Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1151 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…D TO AMEND THE UNIFORM STATUTORY RULE AGAINST PERPETUITIES. HB1151 Vaught TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING SEXUALLY GROOMING A CHIL…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING SEXUALLY GROOMING A CHILD; TO AMEND THE MAXIMUM AGE FOR … Vaught Recommended for study in the Interim by Joint …
HB1174 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…ATING WHILE INTOXICATED WHEN THE HOMICIDE OFFENSE OCCURRED. HB1174 Womack TO ADD PROTECTIONS FOR UNBORN CHILDREN BY ALLOWING P…”
TO ADD PROTECTIONS FOR UNBORN CHILDREN BY ALLOWING PROSECUTION WHEN A PERSON CAUSES THE DEATH … Womack Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1236 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…ON OF A DIVORCE PROCEEDING IS CONSIDERED SEPARATE PROPERTY. HB1236 Womack TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING GARNISHMENT AGAINST THE…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING GARNISHMENT AGAINST THE STATE OR A SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE; … Womack Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1367 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1367 Painter TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE PROCESS OF JURY SEL…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE PROCESS OF JURY SELECTION. Painter Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1414 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…T THE TIME OF THE HOMICIDE; AND TO ESTABLISH BENTLEY'S LAW. HB1414 Lundstrum TO AMEND ARKANSAS LAW CONCERNING THE ESTABLISHMEN…”
TO AMEND ARKANSAS LAW CONCERNING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A STATEWIDE INTEGRATED SYSTEM FOR THE ASSESSMENT … Lundstrum Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1418 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1418”
TO ESTABLISH RECOVERY OF DAMAGES FOR NECESSARY MEDICAL CARE, TREATMENT, OR SERVICES RENDERED. Richmond Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1530 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…FFENSE OF AGGRAVATED ASSAULT IN A PUBLIC CHANGING FACILITY. HB1530 Maddox TO ALLOW FOR THE AWARD OF ATTORNEY'S FEES IN ILLEGAL…”
TO ALLOW FOR THE AWARD OF ATTORNEY'S FEES IN ILLEGAL EXACTION CASES; AND TO CLARIFY … Maddox Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1536 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…E THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE OFFENSE OF SEXUAL SOLICITATION. HB1536 Vaught TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING MURDER IN THE SECOND DEG…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE; TO PERMIT AN INTOXICATED DRIVER … Vaught Recommended for study in the Interim by Joint …
HB1564 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…EGARDING SEXUAL OFFENSES WITHIN THE ARKANSAS CRIMINAL CODE. HB1564 Unger TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING SEXUAL SOLICITATION; AND…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING SEXUAL SOLICITATION; AND TO CHANGE THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE OFFENSE … Unger Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1651 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…WITH MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE; AND TO CREATE VON'S LAW. HB1651 Crawford TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF AGGRAVATED ASSAULT IN A P…”
TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF AGGRAVATED ASSAULT IN A PUBLIC CHANGING FACILITY. Crawford Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1665 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…ROMPT PAYMENT TOWARD THE SUPPORT OF HIS OR HER MINOR CHILD. HB1665 Gazaway TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER ENTERING UPON A SCHOOL CAMPUS. Gazaway Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1670 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…N OF RESIDUAL FUNDS IN ILLEGAL EXACTION CASES. Page 2 of 4 HB1670 Hudson TO AMEND THE ARKANSAS HUMAN LIFE PROTECTION ACT AND…”
TO AMEND THE ARKANSAS HUMAN LIFE PROTECTION ACT AND THE ARKANSAS UNBORN CHILD PROTECTION ACT … Hudson Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1683 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…NING REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER ENTERING UPON A SCHOOL CAMPUS. HB1683 Duffield TO CLARIFY THE PURPOSE OF THE STATUTES AUTHORIZING…”
TO CLARIFY THE PURPOSE OF THE STATUTES AUTHORIZING A LICENSE TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN; … Duffield Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1684 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1684 D. Garner TO AMEND THE DEFINITION OF "MEDICAL EMERGENCY" WI…”
TO AMEND THE DEFINITION OF "MEDICAL EMERGENCY" WITHIN THE ARKANSAS HUMAN LIFE PROTECTION ACT AND … D. Garner Recommended for study in the Interim by Joint …
HB1693 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1693 V. Flowers CONCERNING THE RELEASE FROM CUSTODY OF A PERSON…”
CONCERNING THE RELEASE FROM CUSTODY OF A PERSON ON BAIL OR BY THE ISSUANCE OF … V. Flowers Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1694 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1694 V. Flowers CONCERNING THE IMPOSITION OF THE DEATH PENALTY O…”
CONCERNING THE IMPOSITION OF THE DEATH PENALTY ON A DEFENDANT WITH A SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS. V. Flowers Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1699 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…REFUNDS TO BE SUBJECT TO GARNISHMENT BY JUDGMENT CREDITORS. HB1699 L. Fite TO STREAMLINE MODIFICATION OF CHILD SUPPORT WHEN A…”
TO STREAMLINE MODIFICATION OF CHILD SUPPORT WHEN A PAYOR PARENT IS RELEASED FROM INCARCERATION; AND … L. Fite Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1701 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…AN EXCEPTION FOR A PREGNANCY THAT IS THE RESULT OF INCEST. HB1701 Womack TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING DIVISION OF PROPERTY TO…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING DIVISION OF PROPERTY TO PROVIDE THAT PROPERTY THAT ACCUMULATES IN … Womack Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1745 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…CEALED CARRY LICENSE FOR A RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. HB1745 Unger TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF UNLAWFUL REMOVAL OR FAILURE…”
TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF UNLAWFUL REMOVAL OR FAILURE TO CHARGE AN ELECTRONIC MONITORING DEVICE. Unger Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1769 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…IS NOT REQUIRED TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN IN THIS STATE. HB1769 McNair TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING A CONCEALED CARRY LICENS…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING A CONCEALED CARRY LICENSE FOR A RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. McNair Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1793 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…DEATH PENALTY ON A DEFENDANT WITH A SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS. HB1793 Gazaway TO EXPAND UPON THE GUIDELINES THAT THE FAMILY SUPPO…”
TO EXPAND UPON THE GUIDELINES THAT THE FAMILY SUPPORT CHART SHOULD PROVIDE. Gazaway Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1797 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…HE GUIDELINES THAT THE FAMILY SUPPORT CHART SHOULD PROVIDE. HB1797 McCullough TO CREATE THE "ARKANSAS RED FLAG LAW"; AND TO CR…”
TO CREATE THE "ARKANSAS RED FLAG LAW"; AND TO CREATE AN EXTREME RISK PROTECTION ORDER … McCullough Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1809 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…AND TO CREATE AN EXTREME RISK PROTECTION ORDER AND WARRANT. HB1809 Gazaway TO REQUIRE CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENTS TO BE USED FOR TH…”
TO REQUIRE CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENTS TO BE USED FOR THE BENEFIT OF A MINOR CHILD; … Gazaway Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1810 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1810 Gazaway TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING INCARCERATION OF A PARE…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING INCARCERATION OF A PARENT WHO WAS ORDERED TO PAY CHILD … Gazaway Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1819 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…RCERATION OF A PARENT WHO WAS ORDERED TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT. HB1819 C. Cooper TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING DISORDERLY CONDUCT. H…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING DISORDERLY CONDUCT. C. Cooper Recommended for study in the Interim by Joint …
HB1822 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…9 C. Cooper TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING DISORDERLY CONDUCT. HB1822 Burkes TO REQUIRE A PLAINTIFF'S VERDICT IN A TORT ACTION TO…”
TO REQUIRE A PLAINTIFF'S VERDICT IN A TORT ACTION TO BE REDUCED DUE TO PAYMENT … Burkes Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1832 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…REDUCED DUE TO PAYMENT BY A COLLATERAL SOURCE. Page 3 of 4 HB1832 Gazaway TO AMEND THE PERMISSIBLE INVESTMENTS A GUARDIAN OF…”
TO AMEND THE PERMISSIBLE INVESTMENTS A GUARDIAN OF THE ESTATE MAY MAKE ON BEHALF OF … Gazaway Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
HB1834 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1834 Long TO AMEND THE ABORTION INDUCING DRUGS SAFETY ACT TO INC…”
TO AMEND THE ABORTION INDUCING DRUGS SAFETY ACT TO INCREASE THE CRIMINAL PENALTIES AND CLARIFY … Long Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
SB526 Act 785 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…EQUESTS SUBMITTED TO THE DIVISION OF ARKANSAS STATE POLICE. SB526 J. Petty CONCERNING THE TAKING OF A DNA SAMPLE FOR A PERSON…”
CONCERNING THE TAKING OF A DNA SAMPLE FOR A PERSON ARRESTED FOR A FELONY; AND … J. Petty Notification that SB526 is now Act 785
SB562 Act 789 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…N CONCERNING PAROLE; AND TO CREATE THE "SAFE ARKANSAS APP". SB562 A. Clark TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING INCARCERATION OF A PAR…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING INCARCERATION OF A PARENT WHO WAS ORDERED TO PAY CHILD … A. Clark Notification that SB562 is now Act 789
SB575 Act 889 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…TENTION OF A DNA SAMPLE FOR A PERSON ARRESTED FOR A FELONY. SB575 M. Johnson TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING RECORDS TO BE POSTED…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING RECORDS TO BE POSTED ON A WEBSITE BY THE PAROLE … M. Johnson Notification that SB575 is now Act 889
SB7 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…ASE THE CRIMINAL PENALTIES AND CLARIFY THE CIVIL PENALTIES. SB7 B. King TO ADD THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF PRESCRIPTION DRUG HA…”
TO ADD THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF PRESCRIPTION DRUG HARM OR HOMICIDE. B. King Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment
SB8 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF PRESCRIPTION DRUG HARM OR HOMICIDE. SB8 B. King TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF VACCINE HARM. Pag…”
TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF VACCINE HARM. B. King Died in House Committee at Sine Die Adjournment

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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 0:00
Good morning. House Judiciary will come to order. Chair sees a quorum. Members on our agenda, on our agenda, Senate Bill 417 is actually on the deferred list, so that is not a bill that we need to take up today. Next bill up on the list is Senate Bill 237, Senator Clark. Senator Clark, do you want to run it? We don't pass over that one until we get to then. If somebody, if he comes in, then we'll come back to it. Today's kind of like a two bite at the apple, but we're under our time restraint. Let's go to Senate Bill 238. Senator Clark, not seeing Senator Clark. Members, let's turn to Senate Bill 455. Senate Bill 455, and at At this time, I'd ask my vice chair to take over the meeting.
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Representative Stan Berry Unverified 1:16
Madam Chair, state your name for the record, and you may
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:22
proceed. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Carol Dalby, State Representative, District 100. Members, this is really a very simple bill. This is to amend the membership of the Arkansas State Council for the Interstate Commission for Adult Offender Supervision. If you'll look on the very last part of the bill, page 2, lines 4 and 5, it's adding one prosecuting attorney appointed by the governor and one county sheriff appointed by the governor.
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Representative Stan Berry Unverified 1:49
With that, I'll be happy to answer any questions. Any questions of the committee? seeing no questions uh you ready to close for your bill we have nobody no one in the audience
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:08
yes mr chair i am closed for the bill and i make a
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Representative Stan Berry Unverified 2:13
motion to do pass okay you've heard the motions any discussion on the motion If not, all those in favor of the motion, say aye. Aye. All those opposed, say no. The ayes have it. Thank you, Mr. Chair. You have passed your bill. Thank
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:29
you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, members of the committee. There's Mr. Carter. Members, the next item on the agenda is Senate Bill 519, Senator Irvin. Is there anyone here for Senator Irvin? We'll
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Speaker 3 3:33
pass over Senate Bill 519. Senator Clark, you ready? You
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Speaker 18 3:42
want to start at the
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Speaker 19 3:45
top? I will. Well, I can wait if you want
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Speaker 18 3:49
me to wait for just a little bit. I've got some others. I don't know what your
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Speaker 69 4:00
agenda is. I think 237 is simple enough. Hopefully I can.
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Speaker 18 4:06
I've never known you to be a lost word. All
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 4:10
right, members, let's move back to the top of our agenda. This is Senate Bill 237. And there is an impact assessment on Senate Bill 237. So, members, that's being passed out to you. So, Senator Clark, we'll just hold on for just a second while this... We have a sentencing impact statement, so let's get that out so everybody has an opportunity to look at that. Once we get that impact statement passed around, then Senator Clark, I'll recognize you, but I'll give my committee just a moment. All right, members, I believe everybody has the sentencing impact statement in front of them for Senate Bill 237. So Senator Clark, if you'll identify yourself for the record, you are recognized to present your bill. Madam
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Speaker 69 5:38
Chair, I'm going to ask, with your permission, to have the Executive Director of
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 5:46
the Sheriff's Association help
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Speaker 69 5:50
me present this bill. Certainly. Welcome to the committee, Scott. Yes, ma'am. The Alan Clark Senate District 7, the bill is fairly simple. It changes removing or trying to remove, making it where you can't read, the VIN number, serial number on ATVs, farm equipment, a felony, class D felony instead of a misdemeanor. and owning it in areas, especially in rural areas, I can tell you that there's a huge problem with both tractors, ATVs, trailers being stolen and with people buying them knowingly, or they should know, that the serial numbers have been defaced, removed, and a local sheriff and the Sheriff's Association backs this, believes that this ought to be a stiffer penalty to help us stop this. Mr. Bradley,
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 6:58
would you identify yourself with the record? And you're recognized. Yes, Madam Chairman. Thank
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Speaker 33 7:02
you for listening to this bill today. It's an important bill to share because we got here and worked these cases and we have to know when we pull up on the scene, for example, and there's lots of vehicles and different things around a place, we have to identify those vehicles. Obviously, if there's no serial number on there that's been defaced, taken off, that's hard to do and put it back to the case that they're working. This is, it's a problem, and I don't, I think it being a misdemeanor doesn't keep anyone from doing that to try to cover their tracks. We'd love to see an enhancement on that to make it a I think it's a class D felony so that it has a little more teeth to it while we're working these cases. The Sheriff's Department fully supports this bill and we hope that you guys will pass this bill for
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 7:55
us. Members are there any questions? Representative Collins you
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 7:58
recognize for a question? Thank You Madam Chair. So before the session I had an An idea for a bill came to me from a constituent, and it was to make theft of a license plate a felony. I ran that by the chiefs of police. I think I sent it to you. I don't think I heard back, but that's okay. And the feedback I got from the chiefs was they'd be neutral on it, but they thought we really didn't need to do that because if you're encountering that particular crime, You're probably encountering it at a stop where you have another crime that's, you know, going to be charged. So I wondered if that was analogous to this. I mean, if you're encountering something that has the VIN rubbed off, you're probably doing that because you are encountering a crime. I mean, I don't know when else you would really note this, find this. So, I mean, can you tell me, do you perceive a difference there in the two proposed changes? And don't you think we're all going to have, most of the time, someone's going to be, you know, being detained or incarcerated or whatever, charged at least, with something that's going to be more severe than this in the first place? Do you think it's necessary, given that there's going to be another crime there? First of all, I want to apologize
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Speaker 33 9:18
to you for not answering your call. I tried to answer all of them. I got a little bit overwhelmed this session. I mean, so I apologize for that, and I'll do my best to answer your call. from now this point forward sometimes we roll upon these scenes and there's just a lot of them a lot of different vehicles we can't track them back to where they go right you can't work the case sometimes it's hard to without that VIN number to track them back to where they actually came from and work that case so just having them and obviously being defaced we feel like should be a charge of its
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 9:53
own does that answer your question may I have a follow-up you may So let me just maybe ask it a different way. Theft of a vehicle, what is that? I mean, what's that classification? It's obviously a felony. Yeah. So they're going to get a felony if they've stolen the vehicle already. This would just be an additional felony you'd
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Speaker 44 10:13
be putting on them if they had
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Speaker 33 10:15
scratched the vent off? Possibility. I mean, that's obviously up to the prosecutor, but there are times that we can't charge them with the theft. But we can charge them for having this vehicle
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 10:28
with the defaced serial number. Okay.
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Representative Ashley Hudson Unverified 10:32
Representative Hudson, you're recognized for a question. Thank you, Madam Chair. Mr. Bradley, just in terms of the burden that we're saying that they knowingly possessed this vehicle or knowingly purchased it, how do you proceed in that type of investigation? I just want to make sure that y'all are in a position where you can do an investigation that rises to the level of increasing this to a felony
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Speaker 33 10:53
level. Yes, ma'am. Well, we would start if we find, you know, obviously a lot of times there's several of them. There's several different ones that they're doing this on. Well, we would try to track it back to exactly where it come from, hopefully interviewing the suspect, and hopefully he's telling us there should be a bill of sale. There should be something tracking it back to where he got it and try to trace it back to where it came from. But sometimes they're very uncooperative with that information. So I hope that answers your question. Thank you.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 11:23
Members, any other questions? Representing Moore, you're recognized for a
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Representative Kendra Moore Unverified 11:27
question. Thank you, Madam Chair. I love the intention of this bill, but I just want to ask one clarifying question that deals personally with me. On one of my farms, I've got a diesel power unit that's an ancient, it's honestly, it's among the worst power units there are, Because it's old, and it's been sitting outside forever, and the serial number, I was trying to look it up for insurance purposes, and this is a used one, you can't find it. And it's rusted, and it's not defaced, it's just non-existent. Does this bill make that illegal? Because, you know, I can't find an old rusted out, you know, it's not legible. Does this bill make any exception for those instances? That's a good power unit. That's a good one. You got
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Speaker 33 12:20
a good one if it lasted that long. And I had this question this morning from another representative in the room where he had an old trailer or something like that. I know it was a bulldozer that had the same issues. So there are other places you can try to find the VIN number. And my answer to that is an investigator has to use some common sense in this, too. I mean, it's obviously rusted. There's a big difference between one that's rusted and fell apart than where someone's took a grinder and grinded off the serial number. There's a big difference there. I think our investigators could definitely tell the difference.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 12:55
Representative Richardson, you're recognized for a question. Thank
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Representative R. Scott Richardson Unverified 12:59
you, Madam Chair. Sheriff, does this also... I guess I'm questioning more about trailers, right? so I've got in my neighbor even though we don't have a lot of stuff over there but there are trailers that come up missing all the time that have their some have serial numbers that have been etched in on the trailer or what have you had is this is going to cover those as well or is this only vehicles and
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Speaker 52 13:26
boating it does cover trailers also okay
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 13:32
thank you members any other questions representing more
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Representative Kendra Moore Unverified 13:36
you recognize for a question thank Madam Chair, sorry to keep beating a dead horse. This is another example from my own personal life. I've got a 1967 Monarch half-cab 18-foot John boat, and it was created before boats had VIN numbers. About four years ago, DF&A, or the Revenue Service, made us, for insurance purposes and registration, made us literally etch in the VIN number to the boat with, like, a Dremel tool. But I've also got a lot of old John boats that were my granddad's that we, you know, aren't registered, that don't have a motor on them. They're like, you know, fishing boats for a pond. And a lot of them have holes in them, don't get me wrong, but they don't have VIN numbers. This bill does
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Speaker 69 14:30
not apply to those old antiquated vessels. This catches us up to what the law is on automobiles, and this is for intentionally removing a serial number, which, you know, not some accident, not it rushed in a way, and if you ever find out about anybody being investigated and charged, please call me so that I can throw a fit, because it's not even accidentally in here that way, and those are great questions.
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Representative Collins, you recognize for a question? Thank you Madam Chair. Senator Clark, I don't know, did you talk with the Chiefs of Police about this bill? And I know obviously you've got sheriff's support, but I'm just curious given where they were on that other bill I mentioned earlier. I know Gary Sykes is in the room. If you haven't, would it be okay to just ask them what they think? Do they see a distinction between that and the other? Sure. Mr. Sykes, would you
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 15:30
like to come to the end of the table? if you'll identify yourself for the record and i think you've heard the question so if you need it repeated we'll certainly do that but go
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Speaker 61 15:40
ahead and recognize us okay i'm gary seibes director of the arkansas association of chiefs of police and representing the college the difference between those the license plate theft and what So what they're talking about here is the intentional defacing of a serial number, whereas a license plate, I mean, if you run the license plate, you can find out who the owner is. But if you don't have a serial number on the boat or farm equipment, I mean, you're not going to be able to trace it back. But that was the difference on that. And in most cases, on license plates, we're not going to be able to catch them when they steal the license plate. So that was one of the drawbacks on that. Thank you.
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 16:26
And quick follow-up. So I guess I understand there are some differences. So you guys support this bill as well? Yes. Okay. All right. Thank you. Members, any other? Thank you, Mr.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 16:38
Sykes. Thank you. Members, any other questions? Seeing no further questions, Senator, we have no one who has signed up to speak for or against the bill. Senator Clark, you're recognized to close
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Speaker 69 16:50
for your bill. Thank you. This was brought to me by a local sheriff who is on his way here, and I had not given it any thought except for the fact that I've had two four-wheelers stolen, and as a result of that, I know that there's a large trafficking in that, and they do everything from move them wherever and sell them to break them down into parts, and they remove the serial numbers either way, and we do have a problem with people who will buy them, and you would almost have to know that they were stolen. And we really need to give our law enforcement every tool we can to try to stop this. And I would appreciate a good vote. Members have a motion to do pass on the table. Is there any discussion
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 17:37
of the motion? All in favor of the motion, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed say no. The ayes have it. Congratulations. You have passed your bill. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you,
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Speaker 69 17:51
members of the committee and I probably better wait on 238 and I know Senator
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 17:59
Clark you indicated you needed to be five other different five other places so if you want to
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Speaker 69 18:05
they will be here for let me go check on those things and give the sheriff time to
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 18:11
get here and he doesn't will and just to let you know what our time schedule is we we've got to recess and be out of not recess be done by an hour from now because the other meetings are starting at 1030 so that'll give you a time frame but I will be gaveling us out in one hour all right thank you back here thank you All right, members, going back to our agenda, I had previously called Senate Bill 519. Is there anyone in the room to run Senate Bill 519? Seeing no one, let's move to Senate Bill 524. representing Pierce you're recognized to come to the end of the table introduce yourself and you may proceed thank you madam chair
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Representative R. Scott Richardson Unverified 19:18
Shad Pierce district 40 don't do that representative clowning and I'd like
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Representative Shad Pearce Unverified 19:23
to call a witness to the stand as well and a while while he's taking this see what this bill does it's a very simple bill 524 it clarifies a non-criminal background check request submitted by the division of Arkansas State Police and what this does is is on fingerprinting if you have have your fingerprints for let's just say your and correct me if i'm wrong here if you're if you're teaching a sunday school substitute teaching you have to have fingerprints to send those in to make sure you don't have a bad background and we want to change this from electronic to live scan because of the quality of that with just emails you can't you can't get what you need as far as quality is concerned and so it's just a clarification of a wording change as all this is to make sure and help to have the flow go a lot quicker through the transition of what they need and what they need to get back to do what they want to do and with that i'll do you have
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 20:29
anything to add well i've got a question here representing so hang on just a moment representing crawford you're recognized for
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Representative Ashley Hudson Unverified 20:35
a question thank you um madam chair just for clarification uh when you do live scan does that take additional equipment i'm thinking about when I went for my enhanced conceal and carry and what they do for fingerprinting. And then I know we passed a law that they had to get other equipment and it cut a lot of people out. What does this do in that
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Representative Cindy Crawford Unverified 20:58
area? Would you like to answer it? You'll have
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 21:04
to. Now, if you'll identify yourself and answer the question.
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Speaker 82 21:08
Mike Moyer, server as a major for the state police. Yes, ma'am. So what this bill actually is, this was passed two years ago, and it just made it to where when fingerprints were submitted on civil background checks that they had to be done via live scan. And live scan is just a general term for the type of equipment. It's not an actual specific brand. It's just the type of equipment. In order for those prints to be received into the automated fingerprint identification system within state police, it has to be done through a live scan. The purpose of changing this word is because we have people trying to email fingerprints to us, saying that that's an electronic means, which we can't accept fingerprints by email. So that's all that this bill
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 21:55
does. Representative Hudson, you recognize... I'm sorry, Representative Crawford, you had
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Representative Ashley Hudson Unverified 21:59
a follow-up? Yes, please. You're recognized. So what we did two years ago is the same as this for all the, what do you call them, people who give gun classes. So it's all the same process. It's just different
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Representative Cindy Crawford Unverified 22:16
language so they don't have to go out and buy more equipment or do more things.
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Speaker 82 22:22
That's correct. Nothing changes from two years ago. It's just changing this
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 22:26
one word. All right. Thank you. Representative Richardson, you're
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Representative R. Scott Richardson Unverified 22:31
recognized for a question. Thank you, Madam Chair. Representative Pierce, the changing of this wording is not going to impact current individuals or companies that are using and providing this information, right? There's enough across the state, so there's not going to be any burden in changing any of the language, correct? But from what I understand, Representative, there is 420-some-odd.
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Representative Shad Pearce Unverified 22:55
I can't remember the exact. But the state police themselves have 63, and the rest are scattered out across the state. Am
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Representative R. Scott Richardson Unverified 23:00
I correct by saying that? That is correct. Perfect. Thank you. Members, any other questions? Seeing no further questions, we have no one who has signed
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 23:06
up to speak for or against the bill. What are the wishes? Representative Pierce, you're recognized to close for your bill. I am ready to close, and I wish for a good vote. You making a motion to do pass? Yes, ma'am, I'm making a
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Representative Shad Pearce Unverified 23:17
motion as well. I thought I heard that motion somewhere in there.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 23:26
Members, we have a motion to do pass on the table. Is there any discussion of the motion? All in favor of the motion, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed say no. The ayes have it. Congratulations, you have passed your bill. Mr. Pierce, just stay right where you are because we're moving to Senate Bill 526. Senate Bill 526, and may sound redundant, but please recognize, identify yourself, and then you're recognized to proceed. Representative Shad Pierce,
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Representative Shad Pearce Unverified 23:55
District 40, and I'd like to also call the Crime Lab to the witness stand, please, if I could.
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Speaker 82 24:02
If you'll identify, we won't have to do it again. Kermit Channel,
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Representative R. Scott Richardson Unverified 24:10
Director of the State Crime Lab. You're recognized. Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you, Committee. And what this
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Representative Shad Pearce Unverified 24:16
one does is it's concerning taking of DNA samples on a person arrested for a felony and to clarify the retention of the DNA sample for a person arrested for the felony. And from what I understand on this one, all it does is it puts the DNA in one particular place in the crime lab so it's not scattered in evidence rooms all across the state.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 24:36
It puts them in one place where they're secure. Members, are there questions? Seeing no questions, we have no one who has signed up to speak for or against the bill. Representative Pierce,
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Representative Shad Pearce Unverified 24:55
you're recognized to close for your bill. I'm closed for my bill. I make a
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 24:59
motion to do pass. Members, we have Representative Pierce who's closed for his bill and has made a motion to do pass. Is there any discussion on the motion? Seeing no discussion, all in favor of the motion, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed, say no. The ayes have it. Congratulations, you have passed your bill. Thanks again, Committee and Madam Chair. Members, I see that Senator Irvin has come into the room. So let's move back one, and we have an impact statement. This is Senate Bill 519. Senator Irvin, just hang on a second until we get the impact statement passed out, and then we'll recognize you.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 26:41
All right, members, I believe everyone's had an opportunity to review the Senate and Commission's impact statement on this bill. Senator Irvin, if you'll identify yourself with a record, you're recognized to present
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Senator Missy Irvin Unverified 27:04
your bill. Thank you, members of the committee. Senator Missy Irvin, District 24, Senate Bill 519. As you can see from the fiscal impact statement, it's a minimal effect. And what this bill does is really it creates two new categories. One is a person of 69 years of age or older, as would be considered a vulnerable adult, and also someone who would be in a 24-hour care facility. And as far as the specifics of the bill, if it's okay, I'll turn it over to Mr. Orford. If you'll identify yourself,
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 27:40
you're recognized. My name's Lloyd Warford.
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Speaker 95 27:42
I'm the director of the Medicaid Fraud Control Union in the Attorney General's Office. Everyone knows we do Medicaid fraud. That's our title
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Speaker 97 27:51
and what we do that's most public. But we also have a responsibility under federal law to protect Medicaid recipients in any type of Medicaid-funded facility. and in 2020 that jurisdiction or investigative authority was expanded to protect any Medicaid recipient receiving care in their home or in other places outside of institutions. While it was great that we got the authority to do that, we had no tools. The statutes in Arkansas don't cover and extend to those situations. So what this does is it just takes the laws that are already in place to protect adults in nursing homes and other long-term care facilities and expands them to cover individuals who are residents of any type of Medicaid-funded facility or other facilities as well. Members, you've heard an explanation
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 28:50
of the bill. Questions? Representative Collins, you're recognized for a question.
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 28:55
Thank you, Madam Chair. So I'm just kind of wondering, you know, whenever we do these kinds of bills for specific groups, I think obviously all of this is covered elsewhere in
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Speaker 98 29:10
criminal law. How is it covered and what are
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Speaker 97 29:14
the offenses? No, it's not actually. The offenses here are abuse, neglect, and exploitation currently in Arkansas. Those offenses only protect people who are in long-term care facilities or who are endangered or impaired adults that have very specific recognition. This means that every juvenile, every child who's in facilities across the state are not protected by that statute. There's no neglect statute that applies to them. We've actually done investigations where we have determined that shots and medications were being used inappropriately to punish and to control children in psychiatric facilities and other facilities in ways that would clearly be prosecutable if they were an adult in a long-term care facility, and we were unable to act in those cases. So we have a gap in our protection. I think it historically came out of the fact that our unit only had jurisdiction over long-term care facilities, so statutes were written for what we had jurisdiction over, and it boxed in the
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Speaker 95 30:26
coverage of those statutes. It's very important that we protect all citizens in this environment.
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Let me try again, if I may. Sure. You'll recognize for
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 30:36
a follow-up. Okay. I'm not really talking about your specific area of focus. I'm talking about the criminal code. So I know that there are statutes that cover serious physical injury or substantial risk of death to a person. Forget about whether they're vulnerable. I just want to get a sense for what are we raising the existing crime for in these specific cases. I think, I understand what you're doing. I'm not even opposed to it. But I do think we need to know if it's a vulnerable person, we're saying Class B felony. What is it for a regular person? Is it Class D felony? Is it misdemeanor? Class C? I mean, I just don't know. but I'm hopeful you can tell me. For a battery? Well, one that causes substantial risk of death
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Speaker 95 31:24
or serious physical injury is probably going to be a pretty aggravated race. That would be the same offense. It would be a B felony if it was a battery, but with different men's rays and with different elements of the offense. This statute actually gives specific definitions to caregivers. and people who are responsible for caring for those people on a daily basis and sets up a different standard
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Speaker 97 31:48
of what would constitute abuse or neglect or exploitation. Those elements don't exist in our battery statute, so it's a little different
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 31:58
environment. I understand, but we do have nine penalties here, and I'd like to just know what we're doing, so we're making sure that we're doing it advisedly. Again, I don't really have a problem here. I just want to know what we're doing, basically.
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Senator Missy Irvin Unverified 32:14
Yeah. Well, no, I hear your question. I mean, I think if you look at the fiscal impact statement, it shows what the penalty is based on the language of the bill. Now, how that compares to the existing criminal code, I can't tell you
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Speaker 97 32:33
that, to be fair. Sure. All of these same nine are offenses under the adult abuse statute, But it's limited to people who are adults, and it's limited to people who are in long-term care facilities. So this simply takes the same language that's in the adult abuse statute and applies it to other facilities and other categories of citizens. You need another follow-up? One more follow-up, because
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 32:59
that may have answered my question. So all of these are already associated with these penalties but applied to a different group. This applies them to the group that you're applying to? Yes, sir. Yes, that's right.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 33:11
Thank you. Members, any other questions? Yes. Representative Unger, you're recognized for a question. Okay.
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Representative Steve Unger Unverified 33:16
Thank you, Madam Chair. In paragraph 7A, it uses the term misappropriation. Would that be stretched to cover identity theft? Do you mind? I
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 33:33
think we're referring to page 3, members, line 22. Yes, ma'am. Yes.
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Speaker 102 33:47
Well, it's not intended to cover identity theft per se.
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Speaker 97 33:54
However, if the person engaged in identity theft in the process of essentially, for example, forging, there may be other crimes that's associated with these same kind of things. So it's a POA or a person who has gained control over a person's checking account. Sometimes they may just have physical possession of it. But if they misuse that to spend, whether it be a trust that's been set up and they spend it in a way that's not covered by the trust, all of those will be covered
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 34:30
by this. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. Members, any other questions? Seeing no further questions, we have no one who's signed up to speak for or
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Senator Missy Irvin Unverified 34:40
against the bill. Senator Irvin, you're recognized to close for your bill. Thank you, members. I appreciate the questions by Representative Collins and Representative Unger. um hunger that for me i think about vulnerable people and when my mother was in the hospital with covid um or she was there got covid but i am very good friends with one of the palliative care doctors at baptist hospital um he was going into every room and uh we we passed a lot of legislation on palliative care and allowing for patients to have their intentions be known and not overridden by other people so that their patients, their wills could be honored or their desires to be honored. The testimony from my friend who was a palliative care doctor in certain situations was just unbelievable sometimes at how some of these people that were in the hospital dying of COVID, how they were being taken advantage of. It was remarkable. And it just, for me, when the Attorney General's office brought this bill to me, it made me think about those people being alone and being vulnerable. And so I think this is great language. I think it's important that it extends to children in these situations. We don't want them to be exploited or neglected and so having them be added to this is I think a good good policy decision and with that I'm closed. Member Senator Irvin is closed for a
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 36:11
bill. What are the wishes of the committee? The motion to do pass. Is there any discussion on the motion? All in favor of the motion please say aye. Any opposed say no. The ayes have it. Congratulations you have passed your bill. Thank y'all so much appreciate it members let's turn our attention to Senate bill 575 representative ray you're recognized to come to the end of the table and present Senate bill 575 members this is a bill that got transmitted to us about seven o'clock last night so I don't know if any of you really had a chance to look at it I'm going to give you a minute or two to kind of look at it and then we'll recognize you if it's
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Representative David Ray Unverified 37:06
okay madam chair I'd like to ask mr. Cooper from the AG's office sure
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 37:10
no problem mr. Cooper is a frequent flyer in our committee so we assumed as much All right, Representative Gray, if you'll identify yourself, you're recognized to present Senate Bill 575. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Representative David Ray Unverified 37:56
Representative David Ray, District 69. Colleagues, this is a bill that would create the Safe Arkansas app. It's a public safety bill that would task the parole board to partner with Department of Information Systems, DIS, to create a mobile app that the public can download and avail themselves of if they choose. Think of it similar to how RDOT has a iDrive Arkansas app. The app would post for the public a basic set of information for people who are parolees or people are for inmates who are being considered for parole I do want to stress all of the information contained in here would be information that's already public about publicly available all of it but while the information is publicly available it's not information that's easily discoverable for the average person your average person doesn't always know how to use vine or court connect and go find these details so this just puts it in coffee machines working overtime this morning for good reason many of us are sleep-deprived but that's what this bill would do and the purpose is obviously to increase transparency for the public especially for victims and for the families of victims just making that information that's already publicly available but not necessarily easily discoverable, more
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Representative Kendra Moore Unverified 39:19
user-friendly, and that's what the bill does. Members, you've heard an explanation
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 39:26
of the bill. Are there any questions? Representative Collins, and we're trying to get the noise stopped so y'all can hear. Representative Collins, you're recognized for a
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 39:37
question. Thank you, Madam Chair. So, you know, these people who were released on parole have done their term of incarceration. They're out. We are trying to help them succeed. We're trying to make sure they can get on their feet, get a job, re-enter into society. That's what everyone wants them to do. This will put their photograph out there, put their name out there. It will make it accessible for people in the community to, you know, yeah, they'll have information, but they'll have information that I think in a lot of cases will make it harder for them to reintegrate into the community, maybe make it less likely for them to get a job. Are we inadvertently making it harder for people to get back into society after serving their term of incarceration in the interest of bringing personal information and photographs to the community? I think we all want to make it easier
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Representative David Ray Unverified 40:37
for people to reintegrate back into society. That's why I support Representative Lundstrom's bill to create a tax credit for hiring people who are trying to reintegrate. But I would stress all of this information is publicly available. And I think generally this is the direction that society is headed. You know, if you, I go on to, my Faulkner County Sheriff has an app that they use. Representative Collins, I'm just
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 41:04
going to show you. Put the phone down. Sorry, we don't raise up and show things.
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Representative David Ray Unverified 41:09
Oh, okay. I don't know what happened to my microphone. I'll just describe it for you. there's an app that you can download if you are interested that you can see on there it lists basically the same set of information for people in the county jail so I think this is the generally the direction that society is headed and this is information that's already publicly available we're just providing it in a more user-friendly format for people who want to be able to access it. If they go on Vine or Court Connect or what have you, they can already access all of this information. But if you're someone who is a crime victim, family of a crime victim, someone that would want to know this information, this makes it easier for them to access it. You recognize
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 42:02
for a follow-up? Thank you. That is exactly what it does. I guess you know when it comes to sex offenders we have a reason as a society that we want to know who they are because we think I mean the whole point of the sex offender registry is we think they are potentially going to reoffend and we want to you know act accordingly but here these are people who there's no necessarily any reason we think they're going to reoffend I mean maybe they will maybe they won't but a lot of them are trying their best not to there's no reason found by anybody that they will necessarily reoffend and we are I mean we are making it more difficult I think the Democratic Gazette recently stopped publishing mugshots you know we've done some things even in this legislature I passed the bill a while ago to make it a little bit more difficult for people to kind of extort you based on your mugshot that's a business that thrives worldwide it makes it harder for people to get a job and to
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Speaker 81 43:07
reintegrate wouldn't you agree well not necessarily
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Representative David Ray Unverified 43:10
I mean the bill you're describing I think was dealing with commercial uses of that kind of thing which is I think a little bit different but there is there is a worry about people who are on parole reoffending. That's the whole point of doing parole reform this session. I can tell you that when I worked in the lieutenant governor's office it was routine for us to take meetings with constituents and on one occasion I met with a grandmother from MENA. She drove all the way from MENA to meet with Lieutenant Governor Griffin and I and she told me the story of how a man brutally murdered her entire family. He murdered her daughter, he murdered her daughter's, I believe it was her boyfriend, she murdered her nine-year-old grandson and her two-year-old granddaughter. The man who committed that murder had been paroled nine times. Not five, not six, not seven, not eight, nine times and so yes people who are on parole often do reoffend that's why we find ourselves in this session dealing with parole reform and I think it's reasonable for people to be able to more easily access information that is again already publicly available. Representative Moore you're
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Representative Kendra Moore Unverified 44:34
recognized for a question. Thank you madam chair. Representative Ray thanks for bringing this issue to the table. I just want to clarify this is only for those folks that are charged and are currently on parole or eligible for parole but once they get off of parole and serve their time fully under the law will they still be on this app? No they they could be removed at that point and that's there at the end
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 45:06
of the bill could be removed or will be removed could you just point that out since
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Representative David Ray Unverified 45:13
it's a new bill sure yeah it's on page 3 line 13 and 14 it says they may be removed obviously there's a difference between may and shall but we want to continue to leave that within the discretion of the parole board there may be some there may be some reason that someone might remain on there whether
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Representative Kendra Moore Unverified 45:30
that's due to their sex offender status or an outstanding warrant or something of that nature. Representative Clowney,
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 45:39
did you still want to be in line for a question? Oh, I'm sorry. Did you still want to be in line for a question? Okay, thank you. Members, any other questions? Seeing no further questions, we have no one who has signed up to speak for or against the bill. Representative Ray, you're recognized to close
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Representative David Ray Unverified 46:08
for your bill. Okay, thank you committee. Appreciate your time and attention. Again, this bill, a couple things I don't think I mentioned at the outset. This bill is part of the AG's public safety package. There is no known opposition that I'm aware of and the bill passed out of the Senate with 33 votes and would appreciate the committee's support this morning in an effort to make our state safer.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 46:30
Members Representative Ray has closed for the bill. What are the wishes of the committee? I have a motion to do pass. Any discussion on the motion? All in favor of the motion do pass. Please say aye. Aye. All opposed say no. No. The ayes have
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Speaker 125 47:11
it. I see two hands. Call the roll. Representative Nix, Representative Nix, Representative Richmond, Representative Richmond? Representative Gassaway? Representative Watson? Representative Watson? Representative Crawford? Representative Scott? Representative Scott, no. Representative Clowney? Representative Clowney? Representative Cooper? Representative Cooper? Representative Richardson? No. Representative Richardson? No. Representative Collins? No. Representative Collins? No. Representative McCulloch? No. Representative McCulloch? No. Representative Hudson? Representative Hudson? Representative Milligan? Yes. Representative Milligan? Yes. Representative Underwood? Yes. Representative Underwood? Yes. Representative Moore? Yes. Representative Moore? Yes. Representative Duffield? Yes. Representative Duffield? Yes. Representative Unger? Yes. Representative Unger? Yes. Representative Pierce? Representative Pierce? Representative Berry? Representative Berry? Yes. The bill has failed. All right. Thank you for your time and attention, committee.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 49:09
All right, members, what we have left on our agenda are two bills from Senator Clark. we have messaged to Senator Clark so we're going to give him some time he's he was having to run several different things so we're just going to take a recess and we're going to come back in here obviously but let's take I'm gonna say maybe five or ten minutes and once we see him enter the room we're going to
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Speaker 91 49:58
come back in so right now we'll be in recess .
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:13:09
All right, members, I see Senator Clark. senator clark is now here so i'm getting ready to gavel in so members take your seats members let's take our seats the first bill we're going to take up of senator clark so when we go back on will be senate bill 238 there is an impact assessment statement for senate bill 238 so once everybody's back in their seats we're going to gavel in house judiciary is now back in session. Senator Clark, you're recognized to present Senate Bill 238. Members, there is an impact statement from the Sentencing Commission that's being handed out. Okay. Madam Chair, thank
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Speaker 69 1:14:18
you and the committee for your patience. And I would ask for your indulgence to have Hot Springs County Sheriff Scott Fink-Barner to help present this bill. Certainly. Senator Clark, you're recognized. Sheriff, thank you
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:14:28
for being here. And when And it's your time to speak. Just make sure you give us your name for the record.
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Speaker 131 1:14:43
Sure. Scott Finkbeiner, Sheriff of Hot Spring County. Senator Clark, you're recognized. Thank you. We'll let the Sheriff start here. We've got an issue that we've come across in all county, and I'm sure it's in others as well. We have people that have been, for lack of a better word, doped up, strung out for days that are wandering. We have increased homeless populations of people, thieves, stealing from people. And they are wandering into homes, people's vehicles. We actually had a lady about a month ago, was home with her two children, didn't realize that her patio door in her bedroom was not locked. She comes in, there is a man standing on her commode looking at her who had looked like he'd been up for days. She was obviously horrified, grabs her kids. These things, we had another one a few months before where a guy walked into a kitchen with a mother and her children cooking supper, walks in, looks at them, turns around and locks the door behind him in the kitchen. Her husband grabs a gun, at gunpoint forces the guy out of the house. These are misdemeanors in the state of Arkansas right now. He did not, the people involved in these cases did not, we could not prove that they had intent to commit a felony, which proving intent is almost impossible until they actually commit it. It's hard to prove that they had intent in these types of cases. This would just move it up one notch to a Class D felony, which we're hoping will deter some of this behavior. We don't want homeowners shooting people that walk into their homes, which is what's likely to happen if this type of stuff continues. We've already had people at gunpoint, you know, in homes. Luckily, they didn't shoot the person. They don't deserve to die because they walked into, you know, into another home. If
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Speaker 69 1:16:43
you have any questions, I would love to answer them. I
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:16:47
don't... Members, are there any questions? Representative Collins, you're recognized for a question.
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 1:16:54
Thank you, Madam Chair. So can you think of circumstances or tell me about circumstances where somebody would enter somebody's home without the intent to commit a crime and they're of sound mind, and what are they doing there if they're not on drugs or, you know, having a mental crisis or something or intending to commit a crime? What's happening? What are the fact patterns you're seeing? The things
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Speaker 131 1:17:17
that we're seeing are people a lot of times are high. they're actually looking to steal something is what we suspect they're in there wandering trying to steal something they go into people's vehicles you know we catch people in vehicles looking around that's a misdemeanor I mean they have no right to be in somebody else's dwelling we're not asking for property we're not trying to make it a felony to get on somebody's property this is to enter their home which is a sacred place for most people If I
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Speaker 69 1:17:50
may, Representative Collins, what's happening in these situations is they're coming in and there's someone there, which is very startling if you and your family are there. And, of course, it's very dangerous with the Castle Doctrine. But because there's someone there, they have not yet committed another crime. But it's not that they don't necessarily have an intent to commit it, but there's no way to prove that they intend to commit another crime. Follow-up, please. You're recognized. Thank
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 1:18:20
you. I think that both of your answers kind of do confirm what I was getting at, which is that proof aside, I understand that this may be hard to prove, you really have either somebody coming in with the intent to commit a crime, and that's burglary, and that is a felony under current law. Whether it's proven or not, that is the felony that we have. Or they are on drugs. I mean, that's the other example where they're just kind of out of their mind. And what we're doing then is we're really making a felony for people who are on drugs, out of it, going to sleep. And I understand it's startling, but I don't know, to me, do you think that really rises to felony level where they need to serve up to five years for something that they're barely there for? I think
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Speaker 131 1:19:06
with the current sentencing laws, they wouldn't serve a single day in prison. They would like to get six months of probation, and that would be the end of it. We see this day after day after day with the current statutes. People, it seems, I don't understand sometimes the thought process that we've had, but criminals have many, many more rights than the regular person does. That homeowner is violated. Their peace of mind is taken. Every day when they come home, when they're children at their home, they are horrified. That lives with them. It may not live with a guy that's high and wandered in there, But it lives with that homeowner for years. Their peace of mind is gone from that elit. And that's the issue. I hate to bring up personal stories, but the reason that I ran for office in the first place, I had no intent to do this. My ATV was stolen, which was one of the bills we addressed earlier. I never knew and never understood the damage that's done when you lose your peace of mind to your home. When you leave, every time you leave your home, that's in your mind. Is somebody kicking my door in? Is somebody, what are they doing? And I couldn't imagine walking in and somebody being laid in my bed, and the sheriff's office shows up and says, here, we'll write them a
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Speaker 69 1:20:27
ticket, and then walk away. That's the current state. Members, any other questions? Seeing
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:20:37
no further questions, we have no one who's signed up to speak for or against the bill. Senator Clark, you're recognized to close for the bill.
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Speaker 69 1:20:44
Yes, thank you. I believe the sheriffs are in support of this bill. I know he was going to help me present it earlier. The, as the sheriff has pointed out, as someone who's been a victim, I hope you have not been a victim of crime, but been burglarized twice in two different locations and had two four-wheelers stolen at different times. It is peace of mind, but I cannot imagine having suffered those things. I cannot imagine somebody walking into my house with young kids and my wife there and whatever their state of mind and whatever their intent. And as the Attorney General pointed out in a presentation a couple of weeks ago, you don't get caught the first time you commit a crime or the second or the third. In questioning these folks, it's usually 100. and so this is not something if somebody does this one time and that's all they've ever done not much is going to happen but this is needed for those cases where people actually have records there's a reason why we know they were there and they may be on drugs they may be on alcohol but people shouldn't have to endure this and we'd appreciate a good vote Member Senator Clark is closed
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:22:06
for the bill what are the wishes of the committee a motion to do pass is there any discussion of the motion all in favor of the motion please say aye all opposed say no the ayes have it congratulations you have passed your bill the next call
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Speaker 125 1:22:24
the rope Representative Nix, Representative Nix, Representative Richmond, Representative Richmond, Representative Gassaway, Representative Gassaway, Representative Watson, Representative Watson, yes, Representative Crawford, Representative Crawford, yes, Representative Scott, Representative Scott? No. Representative Clowney? No. Representative Clowney? No. Representative Cooper? Representative Cooper? Representative Richardson? No. Representative Richardson? No. Representative Collins? No. Representative Collins? No. Representative McCulloch? No. Representative McCulloch? No. Representative Hudson? Representative Hudson? Representative Milligan? Yes. Representative Milligan? Yes. Representative Underwood? Yes. Representative Underwood? Yes. Representative Moore? Representative Moore? Representative Duffield? Yes. Representative Duffield? Yes. Representative Unger? Yes. Representative Unger? Yes. Representative Pierce? Yes. Representative Pierce? Yes. Representative Berry? Yes. Representative Berry? Yes.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:24:03
The bill has failed. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, members of the committee. Senator Clark, we have one
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Speaker 69 1:24:23
more bill. Senate Bill 562. Yes, thank you, Alan Clark, State Senate District 7. This is a very simple bill. It just adds the word willfully in child support. I think one of the very worst things that you can do is not support your kids and not support your family. But we also do not operate debtors' prisons in this country. We don't believe in them. And it just simply puts, I think it's really almost a technical correction. Just adding words that should have always been there. and that I believe the court's probably practiced, but the words ought to be there, is that you can't go to jail unless you willfully don't pay your child support, meaning that it's not because you didn't have the means. I'd be happy
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:25:21
to take any questions. Members, are there any questions of Senator Clark? Seeing no questions, we have no one who's signed up to speak for or
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Speaker 69 1:25:31
against the bill. Senator Clark, you're recognized to close for your bill. Thank you. I appreciate your patience in waiting for me, and I appreciate a good vote.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:25:41
Members, Senator Clark, is closed for his bill. What are the wishes of the committee? I have a motion to do pass. Any discussion on the motion? All in favor of the motion, please say aye. Aye. All opposed, say no. The ayes have it. Congratulations. You have passed your bill. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, members of the committee. Members, we are now at the end of the agenda. I want to thank each and every one of you for your hard work you have done a yeoman's job you've hung in there long hours I think you have asked great questions I want to say thank you to each of you for how you treat our guests to come to the end of the table y'all are always professional and I appreciate that about you because sometimes I know it's difficult when you have people at the end of the table who sometimes may be poking at y'all but I appreciate I appreciate how you have treated our guest. Once again, let's give Barbara and Kendra a hand for all their work. Members with that, I am adjourning us for this session. I do not anticipate a call of the chairs, so thank you. We are adjourned.
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Agenda

REGULAR AGENDA

Number Sponsor Subtitle

SB417 G. defferedStubblefield TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING CIVIL LIABILITY FOR DAMAGE CAUSED BY MOTOR VEHICLES OPERATED ON CERTAIN PUBLIC BRIDGES.

0:18

SB237 A. Clark CONCERNING VEHICLES, BOATS, OR FARMING EQUIPMENT WITH A REMOVED, DAMAGED, MUTILATED, OR DEFACED SERIAL NUMBER OR VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER.

4:18

SB238 A. Clark TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF AGGRAVATED TRESPASS; AND TO MAKE TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS.

1:14:10

SB455 G.Stubblefield TO AMEND THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE ARKANSAS STATE COUNCIL FOR THE INTERSTATE COMMISSION FOR ADULT OFFENDER SUPERVISION

0:57

SB519 Irvin TO CREATE THE VULNERABLE PERSON PROTECTION ACT; AND TO EXPAND PROTECTION OF CERTAIN TYPES OF VULNERABLE PERSONS IN THIS STATE BY ESTABLISHING ADDITIONAL CRIMINAL PENALTIES.

25:27

SB524 J. Petty TO CLARIFY NONCRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK REQUESTS SUBMITTED TO THE DIVISION OF ARKANSAS STATE POLICE.

19:07

SB526 J. Petty CONCERNING THE TAKING OF A DNA SAMPLE FOR A PERSON ARRESTED FOR A FELONY; AND TO CLARIFY THE RETENTION OF A DNA SAMPLE FOR A PERSON ARRESTED FOR A FELONY.

23:46

SB575 M. Johnson TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING RECORDS TO BE POSTED ON A WEBSITE BY THE PAROLE BOARD; TO PERMIT THE USE OF A MOBILE APPLICATION FOR POSTING INFORMATION CONCERNING PAROLE; AND TO CREATE THE "SAFE ARKANSAS APP".

36:47

SB562 A. Clark TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING INCARCERATION OF A PARENT WHO WAS ORDERED TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT.

1:24:22

Motion to Recess

50:19

Motion to reconvene

56:04

Meeting is adjurned8

2:27:34

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DEFERRED BILLS

Number Sponsor Subtitle

HB1107 Rye TO PROVIDE FOR REASONABLE CHILD SUPPORT FOR ANY SURVIVING DEPENDENT CHILD OF A HOMICIDE VICTIM WHEN THE DEFENDANT WAS DRIVING OR BOATING WHILE INTOXICATED WHEN THE HOMICIDE OFFENSE OCCURRED.

HB1174 Womack TO ADD PROTECTIONS FOR UNBORN CHILDREN BY ALLOWING PROSECUTION WHEN A PERSON CAUSES THE DEATH OF AN UNBORN CHILD; TO REPEAL LAWS THAT MAY ALLOW A PERSON TO PRESSURE A PREGNANT WOMAN TO GET AN ABORTION; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.

HB1088 M. Berry TO AMEND THE DEFINITIONS USED IN RELATION TO THE OFFENSE OF THREATENING A JUDICIAL OFFICIAL OR JUROR.

HB1019 Maddox TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE CREATION OF A SPENDTHRIFT TRUST; TO CREATE THE ARKANSAS SPENDTHRIFT TRUST ACT; AND TO AMEND THE UNIFORM STATUTORY RULE AGAINST PERPETUITIES.

HB1151 Vaught TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING SEXUALLY GROOMING A CHILD; TO AMEND THE MAXIMUM AGE FOR A VICTIM FOR THE OFFENSE OF SEXUALLY GROOMING A CHILD; AND TO INCREASE THE PENALTY FOR SEXUALLY GROOMING A CHILD.

HB1131 Hawk TO PROVIDE FOR RESTITUTION FOR A HOMICIDE VICTIM'S SURVIVING DEPENDENT CHILD WHEN THE DEFENDANT WAS DRIVING OR BOATING WHILE INTOXICATED AT THE TIME OF THE HOMICIDE; AND TO ESTABLISH BENTLEY'S LAW.

HB1414 Lundstrum TO AMEND ARKANSAS LAW CONCERNING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A STATEWIDE INTEGRATED SYSTEM FOR THE ASSESSMENT AND COLLECTION OF FINES, PENALTIES, FEES, COSTS, AND RESTITUTION.

HB1367 Painter TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE PROCESS OF JURY SELECTION.

HB1418

Richmond

TO ESTABLISH RECOVERY OF DAMAGES FOR NECESSARY MEDICAL CARE, TREATMENT, OR SERVICES RENDERED.

HB1141 Lundstrum TO DEFINE THE TERM "CONSENT" REGARDING SEXUAL OFFENSES WITHIN THE ARKANSAS CRIMINAL CODE.

HB1564 Unger TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING SEXUAL SOLICITATION; AND TO CHANGE THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE OFFENSE OF SEXUAL SOLICITATION.

HB1536 Vaught TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE; TO PERMIT AN INTOXICATED DRIVER OR OPERATOR OF AN AIRCRAFT WHO CAUSES THE DEATH OF A PERSON TO BE CHARGED WITH MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE; AND TO CREATE VON'S LAW.

3:09:35

HB1651 Crawford TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF AGGRAVATED ASSAULT IN A PUBLIC CHANGING FACILITY.

HB1530 Maddox TO ALLOW FOR THE AWARD OF ATTORNEY'S FEES IN ILLEGAL EXACTION CASES; AND TO CLARIFY THE DISPOSITION OF RESIDUAL FUNDS IN ILLEGAL

EXACTION CASES.

HB1670 Hudson TO AMEND THE ARKANSAS HUMAN LIFE PROTECTION ACT AND THE ARKANSAS UNBORN CHILD PROTECTION ACT TO ADD AN EXCEPTION FOR A PREGNANCY THAT IS THE RESULT OF INCEST.

HB1701 Womack TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING DIVISION OF PROPERTY TO PROVIDE THAT PROPERTY THAT ACCUMULATES IN AN INTEREST-BEARING ACCOUNT OWNED BY ONE PARTY AFTER THE INITIATION OF A DIVORCE PROCEEDING IS CONSIDERED SEPARATE PROPERTY.

HB1236 Womack TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING GARNISHMENT AGAINST THE STATE OR A SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE; AND TO ALLOW FOR INCOME TAX REFUNDS TO BE SUBJECT TO GARNISHMENT BY JUDGMENT CREDITORS.

HB1699 L. Fite TO STREAMLINE MODIFICATION OF CHILD SUPPORT WHEN A PAYOR PARENT IS RELEASED FROM INCARCERATION; AND TO FACILITATE A RECENTLY INCARCERATED PARENT'S PROMPT PAYMENT TOWARD THE SUPPORT OF HIS OR HER MINOR CHILD.

HB1665 Gazaway TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER ENTERING UPON A SCHOOL CAMPUS.

HB1683 Duffield TO CLARIFY THE PURPOSE OF THE STATUTES AUTHORIZING A LICENSE TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN; AND TO CLARIFY THAT A LICENSE TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN IS NOT REQUIRED TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN IN THIS STATE.

HB1769 McNair TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING A CONCEALED CARRY LICENSE FOR A RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

HB1745 Unger TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF UNLAWFUL REMOVAL OR FAILURE TO CHARGE AN ELECTRONIC MONITORING DEVICE.

HB1684 D. Garner TO AMEND THE DEFINITION OF "MEDICAL EMERGENCY" WITHIN THE ARKANSAS HUMAN LIFE PROTECTION ACT AND THE ARKANSAS UNBORN CHILD PROTECTION ACT; AND TO ADD AN EXCEPTION TO SAVE THE HEALTH OF THE MOTHER.

HB1693 V. Flowers CONCERNING THE RELEASE FROM CUSTODY OF A PERSON ON BAIL OR BY THE ISSUANCE OF A CITATION.

HB1694 V. Flowers CONCERNING THE IMPOSITION OF THE DEATH PENALTY ON A DEFENDANT WITH A SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS.

HB1793 Gazaway TO EXPAND UPON THE GUIDELINES THAT THE FAMILY SUPPORT CHART SHOULD PROVIDE.

HB1797 McCullough TO CREATE THE "ARKANSAS RED FLAG LAW"; AND TO CREATE AN EXTREME RISK PROTECTION ORDER AND WARRANT.

HB1809 Gazaway TO REQUIRE CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENTS TO BE USED FOR THE BENEFIT OF A MINOR CHILD; AND TO ALLOW A COURT TO ORDER A PERSON RECEIVING CHILD SUPPORT TO FURNISH AN ACCOUNTING OF EXPENSES PAID WITH CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENTS.

HB1810 Gazaway TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING INCARCERATION OF A PARENT WHO WAS ORDERED TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT.

HB1819 C. Cooper TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING DISORDERLY CONDUCT.

HB1822 Burkes TO REQUIRE A PLAINTIFF'S VERDICT IN A TORT ACTION TO BE REDUCED DUE TO PAYMENT BY A COLLATERAL SOURCE.

HB1832 Gazaway TO AMEND THE PERMISSIBLE INVESTMENTS A GUARDIAN OF THE ESTATE MAY MAKE ON BEHALF OF A WARD.

HB1834 Long TO AMEND THE ABORTION INDUCING DRUGS SAFETY ACT TO INCREASE THE CRIMINAL PENALTIES AND CLARIFY THE CIVIL PENALTIES.

SB7 B. King TO ADD THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF PRESCRIPTION DRUG HARM OR HOMICIDE.

SB8 B. King TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF VACCINE HARM.

Speakers

Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified
83 segments
Representative Stan Berry Unverified
4 segments
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Speaker 18
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Speaker 19
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Speaker 69
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Speaker 33
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified
26 segments
Speaker 44
1 segment
Representative Ashley Hudson Unverified
6 segments
Representative Kendra Moore Unverified
8 segments
Representative R. Scott Richardson Unverified
6 segments
Speaker 52
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Speaker 61
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Representative Shad Pearce Unverified
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Representative Cindy Crawford Unverified
2 segments
Speaker 82
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Senator Missy Irvin Unverified
8 segments
Speaker 95
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Speaker 97
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Speaker 98
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Representative Steve Unger Unverified
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Speaker 102
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Representative David Ray Unverified
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Speaker 81
1 segment
Speaker 125
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Speaker 91
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Speaker 131
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