Senate Convenes

The Senate will be called to order. Are there any request for leave at this time Senator Leding you're recognized. The. Madam secretary please call the roll Boyd Brown Caldwell Chesterfield Clark cruel Davis days Dismang Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rise system Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace thank you madam secretary everyone in the chamber in the galleries would please rise for a player to lead our own senator Wallace followed by the pledge of allegiance Senator Wallace you're recognized thank you governor. Oh lord our god. Thank you for giving us your guidance and watching over us to the session thank you for helping us to get through this lord watch over our loved ones our families. Thank you lord for the blessings you've given us in Jesus name amen. United States of America and to. Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. John Mangalagiri is welcome the Arkansas State Senate. As our expectation that each of you will exercise proper decorum and govern yourselves accordingly during today's proceedings without objection the rules will be suspended and the Senate will dispense with the reading of the Journal. The morning hour has now begun any announcements or introductions at this time. Senator Hester you're recognized members have I think we're we're at Looks like you're just a few hours we're gonna be we're gonna be wrapped up for session then there unless the governor vetoes or something like that we will not be back until sine die which is in. I think about a roughly may first I believe but I will I will email out and an exact date and I want to just a few minutes Senator Clarke Tucker did you have a motion on an issue. Senator Tucker recognized thank you madam president thank thank you senator this is an issue to address on raising for tornado victims as we all know we have a Senate ethics rule that prohibits us from raising money during the course of the session now the way the rules written it if it's a prohibition on campaign contributions so I personally don't think it has any application when it comes to raising money for tornado victims but there was a question raised about this and it's also a Senate ethics rule only there's no law against us raising money during the course of a legislative session so to the extent there's any ambiguity or lack of clarity in any way I would like to make a motion to suspend the rules to allow any member of the Senate to raise money for the purpose of helping tornado victims I'll be happy to answer any any questions yes Sir. Senator Petty you're recognized with that motion also include in kind as in water and supplies yes Sir thank you. Sender Dotson you're recognized. Thank you governor Senator with that either the duration of this ninety four General Assembly. Is there a time certain the rule. So that the motion would only it's it's it's a good clarification the motion would only apply to the time were prohibited from raising money so the rules thirty days essentially from today because today's our last day I think this is is it from today or sine die. Thirty days from today. Yes so for after thirty days we can raise money for whatever you want anyway so this is just for the next thirty days you can raise money but I don't again I think you could do it anyway but just to clarify to raise money for tornado victims. Senator Hammer. Medicare would be expectation understanding that for any money that we would raise to make sure that their accountability transparency that that should be reported on our financial statements you're more donation for. For nearly fifteen or what will be the ability to make sure that somebody's actually taking money for that purpose so I think that it would be the same application as it would anyway if we're raising money for nonprofit for example no we would report that anyway because the money goes straight to the nonprofit not to us if someone gives money to us to a campaign account and then we do all that money out then yes that's going to be on a campaign contribution and expenditure report just like it would be otherwise. And I'm not opposed to idea and all that yes I think I think I think the only way we would ever reported is if the money was a campaign contribution and that as well as we all know we're allowed to get campaign money to five oh one C. threes so that might be a case where this not personally the way I would do it I would just have people give money straight to the five one C. three but if some for some reason you thought it was best to receive a campaign contribution and then you then donated the money from your campaign account to a five oh one see three you would have to account for the contribution on your next contribution and expenditure report and for the expenditures of the five oh one see three thank. Senator Clark you're recognized. Three of already looking. Better to sense of what to suspend role we don't think we have or to I have a a vote to acknowledge that's not the rule. Either way this is really Senator Caldwell is the one who really wants kind of public clarity on this issue because he received some counsel that he was not able to do this so I've the main thing I think is for us to say as a body one way or another that you know he he can do this so I would I would look to Stephen Philip for for the answer to that question. What. I don't know what the motion to vote on would be otherwise so that's why we did it this way. For. Yes center Chesterfield thank you Muintir senator thank you for taking my question to whom what we make check. I just I think that depends on the circumstances are we trying to establish the Senate account. So we would collect money in it we're not trying to do that no ma'am so since allegation money anyway right This Is Senator Caldwell wants to solicit money okay and I don't know who he's raising money for exactly I don't know if it's as a win or Cross County. Organization I don't know what I don't know what it is but whatever it is I think you ought to be able to do it that's. And I know you said it is VOL I'm sorry. My whole may I be recognized you may Senator Hickey thank. Thank you. Great job session. She S. hello called and I did ask him to call us Senator Tucker and that is now this is no way he goes to anything with this campaign but is he said he had actually had been doing this to make sure that he had done everything correctly and it could be multiple organizations. That are directly helping with those tornado victims so that is that is all it is so just wanna call for five ninety six. Thank you. So with that I would appreciate a good vote I think we we we need we need take a vote and so this would be I think the best way to do it too to your point Senator Clark to suspend the rules to the extent it applies to allow any member to raise money for tornado victims for the next thirty days. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Any opposed Is haven't motion carries. Senator Hickey you're recognized yes I've been talking mostly you all today and I've said you know when your wind and if there's anything in doubt today's vote no. But I have something that's not going to be any doubt or I think you'll feel that way I am going to ask you all to suspend the rules so that we can hear resolution which most of your thank you ma'am I thought we were gonna be doing this but this resolution is for our long time employee Mr Steve cook so I would appreciate a good vote to suspend the rules to hear this. Motion to suspend the rules to take it Senate resolution sixty one all those in favor signify by saying aye. Many of those. Senator Hickey you're recognized I would like for the elected leadership of the Senate to stand beside me. Senate resolution sixty one by Senator Hickey et al congratulations Charles Steven Steven cook Senate parliamentarian upon his retirement. Thirty eight years of contributions to the Senate forty eight years of contribution to the state of Arkansas. Senator Hickey. Thank you madam governor. Right members for as Mr Steve Mister Charles Stephenson Stevens Steve cook a native of Arkansas began his career with the Senate in nineteen eighty five and after thirty eight years will retire and we're as Steve cook earned his bachelor's degree in history and political sciences from Arkansas tech university and his juris doctorate degree from the university of Arkansas fable and whereas prior to joining the Senate in nineteen eighty five Steve cook began his career working in the legislative branch of government on September fourth nineteen seventy nine. As a bill drafter and committee staff analyst for the bureau of legislative research and. Or as upon moving to the Senate Steve cook was hired to be the assistant chief of staff and then became the Senate's chief counsel and parliamentarian and or as Steve cook too has witnessed the evolution of the Senate including the aero aero of Max and knocks. The brotherhood. Term limits and a change in the majority party control from Democrat to Republican for the first time since reconstruction and or as Steve cook became a counselor mentor confident and friend to the senators and Senate staff while preserving the standard of this role in the Senate and protecting the legislative legislative institution as a whole. And whereas during Steve's cook tenure with the Senate. He has worked with twenty one different President Pro Thames of the Senate and twenty two general assemblies and served each member during these these past thirty eight years in a manner that exemplifies his commitment to public service and we're as Steve cook is admired and respected by the senators for his discretion non partisanship historical knowledge of the Senate humor kindness inside and legal ability. We're as well Steve cook will be greatly missed by the General Assembly his retirement will allow him to spend more time with his wife Mary Kate McKinney. His daughter Melanie and Higgins and his two grand sons J. and Palmer and we're as Steve cook has been an integral part in forging a strong working relationship between the house of representatives and the bureau of legislative research and has done so to ensure a cohesive General Assembly that works towards a common goal. A. N. four as Marty Garrity the director of the bureau of legislative research stated. Steve it's been such a valuable resource for me and I know that I would not be where I am without him Steve is become more than just a colleague. But I am no Senator. But it's a truth you do but it's a true story and. And I'm so grateful for his support the bureau of legislative research and the Senate are much better place because of Steve. And for as Senator bored Hester. President pro tempore the student stated Steve's unique personality has been a gift to the Senate he has the ability to navigate the many personalities within the Senate and in doing so has fostered an unequivocal level of trust among the senators year after year his dependable and unwavering knowledge of the Senate procedures and rules of the uppermost chamber is a measure is an and on in marriageable value to the Senate and the state of Arkansas. Now therefore be it resolved by the Senate of the ninety four General Assembly of the State of Arkansas that the Senate Committee and try Charles Stevens the cook Steve cook for his distinguished service to the state of Arkansas when the legislative branch of government thank him for his countless contributions and wish him all the best in his retirement. It further resolved upon adoption the Secretary of the Senate provide a copy of this resolution to Steve cook. Thank you very much. Thank you Senator Hickey all those in favor of Senate resolution sixty one congratulating Charles Stevens Steve Kerr Senate parliamentarian upon his retirement in commending him for his thirty eight years upon provisions to the Senate and forty four years of contributions state of Arkansas please signify by saying aye five. Highs handed Senate resolution sixty one is adopted thank you and god bless. You're recognized the. My Cup runneth over. Still my wife today as I was getting ready I said I felt like. it was my last day in high school. And I was getting ready to graduate and how mixed emotions I had at that time. Of. This is been my whole. For for forty plus years. Tosh leaving leaving home it's hard leaving home I don't care how old you are keep your teenager going to college or. Sixty nine years old leaving a place that you love. As I told. a lot to you on Monday which I'm so honored that Senator Hester center he put that together. That I had the privilege of waking up every day and driving to this. Gorgeous building. And having a front row seat. And watch thirty five. People. Thirty five people that's amazing that are so special that thirty five people of this great state sent you guys here. To do what you do for the people. I have seen. So much I have seen so much this the Senate and then I have. We get to a summation or use I could be here all day and all night telling stories and I love telling stories because I love the characters. I love all the characters I love all the individuals and. The bigger than life people that I used to read about as a kid and I got to be out here with them. AS confidantes is. The privilege and honor. Of being in a position that I have been in. I owe all of this to my mother's been that for a long time but a praying the there is. I should not have lasted forty years out here because people were is nice is you people are there really weren't day and can tell you she and I dodged bullets constantly. Constantly. Anyway gosh again I just cannot tell you how much I've enjoyed. This. This privilege of being here and I I just. Want to thank when I read act actually retired in nineteen. And Senator Dismang Senator Hendren and others as defined lot would like to come back and work sessions and I thought that you know that will be okay let's just see how that works in this not sign anything or there's just have an agreement that works for me and it works for you for you guys then we'll we'll do that. And the privilege of working for is. Senator Dismang is is Pro TMN. The privilege of working for. Jimmy Hickey. And I became it was not. We really became brothers I I think that. We talked about every day about every a lot at night. Because the Senate was of a well there's a lot there were a lot going on there's a lot going on behind the scenes. For your tenure here and how much I just loved I've loved you so much and and thank you for what you did. the last two. To resist Pro Temp. Senator Hester I greatly appreciate what you've done this. This session you've been a great pro tem. I've had a hard act to follow any filed it very well. Again colleagues I just I love I love you and I love this place and again my heart is so heavy my Cup does run over and again thank you thank you thank you for the honor and privilege been able to serve this incredible institution it will be something I will always always treasure again thank you so much. We'll Senator Hickey sticking me with closing like I stuck him with it the other night But you you don't survive down here for forty four years if you compromise yourself one time. Steve said over there in his office time after time over last twelve years where I pleaded with him to put something in a different committee. I and he works for us right but not one time would be compromised himself and that is that is such a unique quality so that is why he survived for forty four years down here with so many people big personalities difficult people pushy people opinionated people we never compromise himself and Steve I thought how unique it was you were Tanko today because we're so excited to have you back in the fiscal session joining the ranks of the ten codes and guarding us we won't have to miss you that long but I. We love you thank you for all your thank you so much thank you very. Thank you thank you thank you would get a picture down here with the whole Senator somebody else. Yes please. The center Chesterfield you're recognized. You so much I just want to say thank you see I know everybody else's said It but it has been and a special. To have worked with you it didn't matter what do you a majority party to minority party Steve treated you with dignity and he treated you with respect so he could walk with crowds and not lose what you. Know what with kings not lose the common touch he has done it is done it will and I am so appreciative of being the only female appear thank you guys for letting me say it thank god for Stephen cook and thank god for the stint of the State of Arkansas. Senate will stand in recess for five minutes so we take a picture and honor servant leaders. Senator live you're recognized for the announcmenet. Thank you governor good morning colleagues I would like to recognize our doctor of the day Dr GM English he's a doctor of facial plastic surgery. Can be given hand. We also have our nurses of the day Mrs Hewitt and Mrs Bernard give them a hand as we are. Thanks any other announcements for introductions if not morning hour has expired we will now begin the business agenda. Beginning with amendment one to Senate bill three eleven member Senate bill three eleven. Senator Clark. Thank you governor it's just a technical amendment the line set up what the law says under rule for the Arkansas rules of civil procedure and takes out within ninety days after it's not them to appreciate a good vote. Thank you Senator all those in favor signify by saying aye. Any oppose ayes have it members bickered in. Senate bill three eleven by Senator Clark. To amend the limitations period for when a petition for initial order of a child support may be solved and the period of time for a breach retroactive child support may be awarded. Senator Clark. This bill passed over here with the a good majority the it. You can only go back three years on child support from the time the two fall it doesn't leave it unlimited we had cases where after or at the time kids were turning eighteen we had sued for child support for of fathers who didn't even know they had a child and we're not able to not able to be a parent all those years and so this was agreed to with the of Bar Association the judges a DCFS of child support of the don't have any known opposition Richard good vote. Without any questions or any other check anyone wish to speak against or for without objection to rolling the vote centers close Madam Secretary please read about Boyd Bryant Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Davis Dismang Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvin Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love McKee Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stand Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace any center which to change his or her vote C. nine please cast a ballot. Five votes at thirty three a zero named Senate bill three eleven passes enrollment. Amendment one. Two Senate bill three fifty eight Amendment one Senate bill three fifty eight. Senator Teague you're recognized. Thank you madam chair and thank you members this is us about three fifty eight amendment one we've got to amendments to pass real fast on with these amendments are is as a reminder this is the Delta eight products that are harming kids we've passed out of our chamber thirty three votes but what these men amendments are is working with the house when it was on the house side we have worked with department health and the AG's office on some clarity on throughout the bill this section just brings consistency throughout so that prosecutors have clear definitions so term health has clear definitions of what items that we are talking about one other main call out is that we are very clear now through these amendments that we're not talking about CBD products to make sure that those are are not included are exempt from this the the banning of these products further out you also see a severability clause and so if this this would be adjourned there's clear separable Clause is time to wear a a A regulatory measure to go defect self happy to take any questions on the minutes. No questions all those in favor please signify by saying aye. Any oppose ayes have it members concurred in. Amendment to the Senate bill three fifty eight Senator is recognized thank you manager amendment two was clean up from the L. R. that they found when engrossing honestly it was a situation where there is a language said younger and older related to the age of twenty one and so you could actually be the age of twenty one and so there were some some weird clarity there so we've been able to clean that up and make sure that it it is all a pass from a regulatory perspective. No questions all those in favor of amendment to please signify by saying aye. Any opposed Is haven't amendments concurred in. Senate bill three fifty eight by Senator duties to to prohibit the industrial camp that contain certain delta. Tetrahydrofuran cannibal cannibal NO sense cannibal THC THC. T. H. C. that senses. To certain of to include certain T. H. C. in the list of schedule six controlled substances and Claire an emergency center age you're recognized thank you mention thank you madam secretary kind of this this is hard do appreciate this this is a concurrence back on a bill or might we passed out and from this chamber quickly quickly clarification reminder that this bill is about protecting children so we start to get here this this industry has been marketed to and sold to very intentional to to children that's really what bothered me easy open packaging kid friendly graphics and characters and high collars and kids are being harmed so would appreciate a good vote thanks so much. Thank you at that any questions. Senator Rapert you're recognized for a question the other. Explain the I think a lot of opposition. From from Sir the state news playing their opposition and anything we can do that. He's. I think Senator Rapert a majority the opposition that I've received has all been from from people selling these products and so that the motivation I believe it is heavily behind loss of profitable accounts but moving forward with that's for the minute was so clear to make sure that we're not touching a large percentage of the items that continue to sell which are CVT non psychoactive items and so this is only clarifying that synthetic marijuana products are against the law and so work or make sure that super clear. Thank you any other questions C. nine anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator has closed without objection madam. Secretary please role of a. Boyd Brown Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Crowell Davis these Dismang Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love McKee Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace any center with the changes or her vote Mickey no. Right. President. Many others C. nine came. President. Any others say nine please cast a ballot by a vote of thirty eight one night and to present Senate bill three fifty eight passes in the roadway amendment one to Senate bill three fifty nine. Amendment one Senate bill three fifty nine. Senator Stubblefield you're recognized. Thank you governor colleagues house amendment Senate bill three fifty nine represent to negotiations for the establishment of the fe of electronic records of parties that were involved in the negotiations including number of insurance companies trade or of some education as a hospital medical society as well as a third party vendors who are the ones charging for the records. It's my understanding that it is one of the lowest fees in the country lower than our surrounding states all parties agreed there's now no no no no opposition Senate bill three fifty nine adds insurance companies to the statute that will providers thirty certain structure for the access for medical records when preparing for trials settling claims underwriting certain policies previously the statute only applied to attorneys again this is agreed to bill with no opposition. Okay. Well let me questions on the amendment. Seeing all those in favor the amendment please signify by saying aye. Any oppose ayes have it amendment the Speaker Dan senate three fifty nine by Senator Stubblefield concerning access to medical records for legal proceeding and concerning fees charged for duplication of electronically stored medical records. Senator Stubblefield you were you've you've heard or the bill of colleagues so I'm figuring need to vote no yeah. No question anymore speak against her for any objection rowing the boat. I'm sector please roll Boyd Brown Caldwell Chesterfield Clark ruled Davis these Dismang da English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvin Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love McKee Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rise systems Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace any center wish to change his or her vote Senator Dotson no dis president. Any others. Page president. Any others. St nine please cast up the ballot by voting thirty eight one nine and to present Senate bill three fifty nine passes and rolling amendment one to Senate bill four ninety five Amendment one Senate bill four ninety five. Senator Gilmore you're recognized thank you madam governor. Members I just want to say thank you to the House for fixing all of our bills this session as as senator duties well knows well the the amendment on Senate bill four ninety five the couple things first what clarifies that the B. felony of negligent homicide is on the eighty five list it also clarifies that that we keep a Class C. misdemeanor for negligent homicide as well and then the last one is on the prior conviction of staff that there's a ten year look back only ten years it doesn't go beyond that so we're just clarifying those things without appreciated vote. No questions on the amendment all those in favor of amendment please signify by saying aye. Any oppose ayes have it. Amendment is in Irvine. Senate bill four ninety five by Senator Gilmore to creates a protected Arkansas I act amend Arkansas law concerning since sentencing and parole to amend Arkansas law concerning certain criminal offenses and okay legislative recidivism read reduction task force center Gilmore you're recognized. Members I have a to have our speech prepared so I hope you're comfortable just to get right into that no you've heard the bill I appreciate a good vote. Any questions. I am always to speak against or for. Senator is closed any objection rowing the boat objection noted madam secretary please call the roll. Right. Caldwell Chesterfield. Clark. Clark. Roll call. Davis. These. DISMANG. DISMANG. Dotson. English. But. Flowers Gilmore. Hammer. Hammer. Hester. Hickey. Health. Health. Irvine. Blake Johnson. Mark Johnson. King. Leding. Love. The key. Murdock. Murdock. Page. Penzo. Penzo. Petty. Price. Staff. Stubblefield. Sullivan. Tucker. Wallace. Any senator which the changes her vote Senator Penzo yes. Irvine for hill yes. Any others Murdock president. Any others. C. nine please cast a ballot by voting twenty eight four nine eight and one present Senate bill four ninety five passes in real life. Senator Hester you're recognized. Right before we start these bills I've ask I've asked senator Hammer just to recognize the day it is I know you know it's it's Good Friday we wanna get out here be with our with our families Good Friday services but I Senator Hammer just to take a second recognized today. Senator Hammer you're recognized. Thank you ma'am chair. Today is Good Friday is the day that our savior wants to cross in to die for our sins is only appropriate that in all that we deliberate today that we pause and reflect back to the meaning of the day and with that I would ask every member and also staff to stand as I read from the twenty seventh chapter of the book of Matthew. And as we are here this morning deliberating for the good of the people Jesus was dying for the sins of the people. When the morning which come all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death when they had bound him they let him away and delivered him to Pontius pilot has governor. Then Judas which had betrayed him when he saw that he was condemned repented himself and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders saying I'm sending that I betrayed the innocent blood and they said what is that us seek out to it. And cast down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed and went to hang himself the chief priest took up those pieces and said is not lawful for them to be put treasury but as for the price of blood and they took the council brought him to the potters field to bury strangers and it. Where for that field was called the field of blood unto this day then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet saying and they took the thirty pieces of silver the price of him that was valued whom they of the children of Israel did value gave them for the potters field as the lord appointed me. And Jesus stood before the governor and the governor asked him saying art thou the king of the Jews. Jesus said unto him thou say aye. And when he was accused by the chief priests the elders he answered nothing. Then said pilot unto him here so not how many things they witness against the. And he answered him to never a word in so much that the governor marveled greatly. At the feast the governor was want to release on to the people of prisoner whom they would. And they had then a notable prisoner called Barabbas. Therefore when they were gathered together pilot said unto them whom will ye that I release unto you. Barabbas or Jesus which is called Christ for he knew. That for envy they had delivered him. When he was set down on the judgment seat his wife came unto him saying have done nothing to do with that just man for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him. But the chief priests the elders persuaded the multitude that they should ask Barabbas and destroy Jesus. The governor answered and said unto them weather of the Twain will ye that I release on to you they said Barabbas. Polish Senator them or shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ. They all say on him let him be crucified. And the governor said why what evil has he done but they cried out the more saying let him be crucified. When Polish all that he could prevail nothing but rather a tumult was made he took water washes hands before the multitude saying I am innocent of the blood of this just person see to it thanks for all the people and said his blood be on us and on our children. Then released he Barabbas on to them whom he shorts Jesus and delivered him to be crucified. Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the common hall gathered unto him the whole band of soldiers and they stripped him and put on a scarlet robe. When they're playing our crown of thorns. The put upon his head. At a read as right hand. And about the need for him and mocked him saying hail king of the Jews. They spit upon him. And took to read this motor and head. And after that the and mocked him took the robe off him. Put his own raiment on let him wait be crucified. They came out they found a man. Thanks Simon. Him they compelled players across. When they were coming to a place called Golgotha that is a place of this call they gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall. When he tasted thereof he would not drink. And they crucified him and parted his garments casting lots they might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet the part of the garments among them and punish that sure they did cast lots. And sitting down they watched him there. They set up over his head. His accusation written this is Jesus the king of the Jews. And we're two thieves crucified with him one on the right hand and the other on the left. And they that passed by reviled him. Wagging their heads and saying. Though that destroys the temple but build back in three days saved myself they'll be the son of god come down from the cross likewise also the chief priests mocking him with the scribes and the elders said he saved others himself he cannot save the B. king of Israel let him come down now from the cross and we will believe him each trusted in god let him deliver him now if he will have him for he said I am the son of god the thieves also which were crucified with him cast that came the cast the same in his teeth. From six hour there was darkness over all the land in the ninth hour about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice saying my god my god why herself forsaken me. Some of them that stood there when they heard that said this man called prelicense straightway one of them ran and took the sponge and filled with vinegar and put it on a read and gave him drink the rest said let me let us see whether Elias come to save him. Jesus when he cried again with a loud voice yielded up the ghost. And the whole the temple avail was rent in Twain from top to bottom. And they are to quake in the rocks rent and the graves were open and many of the bodies saints road. Sister Linda Chesterfield you come here please. Would you let us in the first stanza. Amazing Grace. And we also. I have the worst loss in order of may seen curries piles should lead the owned that had J. E. of ranch Law I mean. Five long what those laws the nine. I am phoned Les nine. that. Highs the. A man to. Thank you Mr president. Thank you senator Hammer and senator Chesterfield what incredible reminder call us to be servant leaders as we go into this Easter weekend and every day. We will now continue the business agenda. Beginning with House Bill. I was looking for Senator Flippo. We'll begin with house bill eleven ninety two Senator Davis house bill eleven ninety two by representative Eubanks is Senator Flippo to repeal the public school educational corporative Act of nineteen eighty one and to amend the education service cooperative act of nineteen eighty five. Senator Davis. Thank you madam president this bill does a couple of things first sought outlines the process by which a school board selects their member to the education cooperative it requires each meeting of the board of directors of an educational co ought to be public in the minutes of the meeting to be public and it also requires the co op to compile data that demonstrates what if any improvement has been achieved with respect to the performance of students in light of programs and services offered by a co op and provide that data annually to each school district it serves I'm happy to take any questions but this is not my bill. Questions for Senator Davis. A senior center Love. That is this is not. The committee the colossal. Correct it is not part. Any other questions anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator has close any objection rowing the boat objection noted secretary please call the roll Boyd. Right. Caldwell Chesterfield. Clark. Kroll. Davis these. DISMANG. DISMANG. Johnson. English. But. Flowers Gilmore. Gilmore. Hammer. Hester Hickey. Health. Irvine. Blake Johnson. Blake Johnson. Mark Johnson. King. Leding. Leding. Love. Love. Mickey. Mickey. Murdock. Murdock. Payton. Penzo. Is. Petty. Price. DO. Stubblefield. Sullivan. Sullivan. Tucker. Wallace. The senators wishing that he did not vote. Gilmore yes. I love the president. Leding president Sullivan yes. Any others. Blake Johnson yes. Any others. Please cast. Thank you yes. Many others. Please cast a ballot by voting twenty sixty eight two nine one not voting and for president. H. B. eleven ninety two passes return to the House. House Bill sixteen eighty seven house was sixteen eighty seven mo representative long Senator Hammer concerning paper ballots to amend the law concerning paper ballots in the my marking and counting of paper ballots to amend the law concerning the exploration of election results and declare an emergency Senator Hammer you're recognized thank you ma'am sure this bill is not as contentious as previous bills that you had to deal with rain paper ballots in fact this bill was not even a opposed in the committee meeting when it was presented by the public this bill what it does is allow for those unique circumstances where you have elections that have less than five thousand and is set forth the accountability standards by which those elections would take place a good example might be of the school board election where there's only two candidates running and there will be anticipated less than five thousand or maybe two people running for alderman so it covers a very unique situation real quickly on page two it deals with the ability to take care of those that have disability. It speak specifically to the type of paper about the must be used it talks about that if it to win the election is done they have a twenty four hours to count the votes they don't get it done within twenty four hours the results of the tabulation device to which they run will be the official results that will be reported and also about security of taking care of those ballots as mentioned this actually came as a result of an issue as pointed out by Senator Payton when the two fifty bill was running and there was no opposition when this was presented from the public in committee work with the association get crafted in their support of we got to take any questions. Any questions. Sam nine anyone wish to speak against her for. Sender here for close close project good vote Senator has closed any objection to rowing the boat. And secretary please roll right Caldwell Chesterfield Clark rule Davis is dis dismaying Johnson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson came Leding Love McKee Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice down Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator wish to change his or her vote Senator Clark president. Tucker. Yes any others. Any others. Same manner please cast a ballot. But thirty two year eight zero name one president house bill sixteen eighty seven passes an emergency clause adopted returned to the house. House Bill sixteen eighty nine sixteen eighty nine to represent Cozart to amend the public school funding active to two thousand three and to create the comprehensive investment in study achievement that. Senator Hammer you're recognized thank you and chair of running this bill on behalf of representative Cozart for last couple years or so I've been sitting in the public education meetings through the adequacy study in order to get better comprehension of the process bring this bill on behalf of representative Cozart the bill is a working bill this bill will work alongside our matrix that we use now and have for the last twenty years which is old and inefficient we have talked about changing the education adequacy in committee for many years and this is the result of bringing forth a proposed change in dealing with adequacy like to share with you briefly what the bill does this bill sets up a process of a structure for the house and Senate committees to use during the upcoming adequacy study process to revamp the public school education funding system it is based on the Tennessee model that was put in place to ensure dollars are targeted to the needs of all students to schools to create education system is able to help each student reach high standards this includes being able to read proficiently by third grade and meet specific learning targets through their school years specifically the system recognizes that small schools to have the efficiency is required to supply adequate resources the students facing such challenges poverty language barriers and special education needs often require more in resources to achieve the same level as their peers he did not face the same challenges. This bill provides for a new funding structure in which each child generates a unique amount of funding for the school district first of all the students receive foundation level of funding which provide those basic elements of all students needs in their schools for adequate education second weighted funding is applied on top of that to me help meet the needs of students learning of small schools and schools with concentrated poverty and who themselves have specific Corning age next there's a direct funding that goes to schools based on student populations for existence additional funding and providing free students in grades K. three to pay for those additional resources to ensure students are par for reading by third grade there are several things that this bill does but I wanted to maybe just I have a few questions that I can answer if they are asked and have the answers prepared I will say that representative Cozart has worked on this for some time and the question may be asked why is it coming now not come sooner it's because learn Jack was consuming all the time as far as getting this drafted to the satisfaction where was modeled after Tennessee model which is proving to be a successful and with regards to where the governor's office stands on this in the Department of fed the governor's office is okay with this as well as part of it I wanna read the exact quote that I sent the secretary so you know exactly what their position is and I said is that okay with you fi you're are you okay with house bill sixteen eighty nine that running on behalf of representative Cozart he says right now we don't have a position the concept is intriguing and we're very interested to see how it would affect your funding if it passes will watching carefully as it goes through the adequacy process and assist as needed to determine the impact on public schools I asked if that was okay to read read he gave me the funds that time up I would just say this before I'll take questions and answered to the best of my ability having sat through those adequacy meetings it is. The cumbersome process I did hear several that said they were not satisfied with it this is offering a new direction that still by rule can be tweaked as we go it will lay aside the existing funding formula as we transition to a new approach and so it is only at living document that we should be able to work on a tweak to rules shall be glad to answer any questions. Questions Senator Leding. Thank you Mr president Senator area you might imagine this in your thorough presentation but isn't it true this bill doesn't take effect until I believe July one twenty twenty five which means we've got not only the center of the next regular session to decide this bill isn't working for some yes sure thanks for pointing that I actually think that in my closing comments thank you so this is what would also be referred to as a transitioning bill that why we have what we have this lays the groundwork to move in a new direction but the effective date will take place to twenty five so that gives us the full ability which adequacy learn run parallel to each other but we got have adequacy as we implement learn so thank you for that because that gives the committee that chance to have that breathing room with a thank thank you Senator Solomon. Thanks we've talked about this before I talk to a representative Cozart. I'm more concerned about how we have to living documents living in the same way. And if we have them when you talk about running parallel. But maybe running head on. There's no guarantee that there is a cross over and if we have I know this about three or four questions but if we have two years to do this why would we put this in an interview that is not setting and study it and pass it to your father we give it the power of law I think the answer the question would be that we have the power of law now as it is currently written laws to the matrix funding based on representative Cozart years experience on Education Committee it is his position that we need to go in a new direction in order to go in a new direction that's what this is intended to do is to replace the old model with the new model knowing that it can be tweaked out and worked out as we go forward but we've got to have it in law so this is why we would have that to move forward. Thank you and I think the Secretary of comments that read the third time and again I sure will. Right now we don't have a position the concept is intriguing and we're very interested to see how it would affect school funding if it passes we will watch carefully as it goes through the adequacy process and assist as needed to determine the impact on public schools. For me the absence of a. Formative statement that this is what we need to do that is significant again I'm the description of allowed there's no guarantee of that and I'm concerned that they cross over and over our. Supportable. Well and and maybe I need to articulated differently as far as it running parallel the old languages stricken which is the old model and is being replaced by the new model which is in the substantive legislation here modeled after what they did in Tennessee and it becomes a new pathway for over the next year and a half as adequacy is discussed it would be discussed under the terms of the new legislation understanding there are processes in rules they can can make whatever tweaks along the way for. And thank you for your patience I'm just trying to understand so does Tennessee also have a large active blaze because this is part of their access independent independent it's a lot different than a running. Along with two living documents running alongside the assume everyone living document that runs by itself we're gonna have to living documents moving parallel however the move I don't know well that would be fine just make sure on the same page the living document would be the two living documents would be what's is the learns Act which is separate from what is the adequacy act and those are the two documents so the two things that come together in mash at some point that as we have that discussion about adequacy and learns and how they mesh together the discussion would be under the new legislation take it learning from the old as we move forward we got a we've got a whole huge thank you for we don't know where it's going and the governor has said what we're going to have to work through this as we go to Tennessee have something some more time. Right and and my response to that would be we can have the discussion about learns under the old matrix model that everyone has says need to be changed as and I everybody is a strong statement several have said in a specially representative Cozart who feels that there needs to be a change okay so I don't wanna put a blanket on everybody there let me let me qualify that but the discussion about how the learns would would fit into the matrix would be under the new matrix that would be passed along. Other questions Senator Murdock you're recognized thank you. About. In the. That is what we saw so I read the care of. So we. I. And so I appreciate. Look at. That. I. And. So I really appreciate what. Cozart. Very. Shepherd. What. All right well appreciate you coming up to speak in favor of a will get eighteen Preciado. Any other questions. Anyone wish to speak or questions Senator Irvin. Sorry and. So my understanding do you know what the fiscal impact was to the state of Tennessee when they did the. I do not see the answer the question but if Senator English is gonna step down here I will send a message if I can get that for you. Asked about this because I have an a similar idea that was asked to put an interim study which I did actually Because I agree that the funding formula needs to be revamped but my understanding when I did research on the that it costs the state of Tennessee an additional one billion dollars in funding for education and my concern is we have the learns bill that we've already passed which is a huge amount of additional state general revenue spends and then the information I have received with the state Tennessee during this is increased by one billion more dollars and we just can't afford it I do think that the the committee needs to restructure the funding formula one hundred percent but I'm concerned about subscribing it this way in law. My response would be is sorry prescribed in law the way it is and this would prescribe it a new way in law to guide the discussion moving forward knowing that is not going to be implemented into twenty five and if we have the discussion under what is now currently in law will be limited within the constraints that are involved where is with the new one and and agree or disagree I respect under the new one it would take us in a direction that I think from represent Cozart perspective aligns more with some of the concerns that he's had having listened to to the concerned about the way it's currently structured and I share those concerns because I was there with me I guess my biggest concern is the additional bins and what Tennessee went through with the this one billion dollars from my information I got sure and I think at the end of the day at the end of the day the amount of the stand. It's going to be constrained by how much we have to spend anyway it's just we want to have that how much run spend under the old model or under what would be proposed a new model. Senator padding. would you say. This bill as described as you describe it is more establishing the framework to change the matrix to I have heard and I've been down here for ninety days now the matrix needs to change this is establishing the framework that would go into Further discussion that kind of like the rules on the lines Act yes I mean we've got to have a discussion about matrix so do we want to have discussions with the old framework or do we want to have the discussion under a new framework that pari being tested out and as already been implemented in another state that seems to be moving in the direction that we all talk about entity and and your work framework is exactly right do we want a framework to conversation around what we've been complaining about for framework could under what is possibly a new breath we're going in a new direction with learns we need to go in a new direction as far as the discussion of adequacy also if we want to to to align so I appreciate the question. Questions. In what ways to speak against. Senator Chesterfield you're recognized to speak against. The same. Thank you Matt. Senator reminded me that we did sing Amazing Grace. And then the last line there reminds me when we've been here ten thousand years brown's bright shining as the sun. And I feel we've been there is ten thousand years. And it is it is with great reluctance that I come and speak against the bill. Because we do need to change the method of funding for the state of Arkansas. My great concern and I can deal with the the way my great concern is the lateness of it. To wait until a day or two before. We are to leave this chamber and ask us to vote on something with which we are totally unfamiliar. We have had to ingest. Learns Bill and we had to read that carefully we have to ingest a reform bill safety whatever Gilmore's con we had to ingest out of that. Now we're having to and yes this. And this is one of the more important things that we're going to have to do. You begin to run out of way you begin to run out of investigation. I don't know whether this is good or bad I know we've got a long time to do it but I don't know why wouldn't go to interim study so that the committees the joint committees could study it. And then come back and say this is something really good. And the dollars would be there and we would make sure that what he says about rule education is a good thing that we since we're changing in this bill we are changing that issue what we deal with kids with all rent isolated areas that's no longer going to be there it's a new definition I don't know what the definition means and I'm not I just ran out of time to just read every thing in this bill so I don't know will be able to live with it one way or the other we do have more time and it is with great reluctance that I say I think it ought to go to interim study so that we can see whether or not it does what the maker of the motion says it does because I don't know and I'm sitting on the Education Committee and I'm just read it out and so that is why I would say with reluctance to vote no on the bill. Anymore questions for Senator Chesterfield Senator Solomon you're recognized thank you thank you senator with their also in your history there are other opportunities to hear this we may have a special session yes we may come up in fiscal session so it's not like to go to inner study as many things do to die is critically important that we studied an interim study there will be other opportunities along the way even before two years to consider that I would agree with you wholeheartedly sense and I want John to mark this damn. Senator Solomon and I agree. God is good. Speaking for Senator English you're recognized. Thank you member so. Some of us who sat on the Education Committee for a number of years and we've gone through the adequacy process and we know that it is wrong. So. What. Resented Cozart is proposing is going along side of what we're doing the adequacy means a lot of work for the Education Committee anybody's on this committee knows there's a lot of work to do but it means going along side while we're doing the adequacy and looking at this effort and at the end of the day one in its. Two years from now when we're getting ready to propose legislation for the next next biennium we will know whether this is whether this is a plan we should go with and we will have done all the homework and will be ready and will know how much it costs or what should we continue on with the president adequacy study but will be doing adequacy for the next two years and studying this just as well along that same path so we will have a busy time but I think it's worth it because I think most of us know that what we're doing now just really doesn't work and it doesn't it doesn't meet the needs of so many of our schools that are out there the funding formula just doesn't work so I am totally one hundred percent just from the perspective of having worked on this for so long of setting this up and putting it in the law so that we are actually studying it and making sure that at the end of the day we have something we can say this is going to workforce or no it's not going to workforce and how does the learns acted in with what we're trying to do thank you please vote for. Anyone else wish to speak against or for. Senator Hammer your free quote. Thank you ma'am chair this was changed me while ago and I should have thought about it I'm sorry I just didn't as far as there was a fiscal impact statement that was done on this and the topic is district funding Public School Fund house bill sixteen eighty nine no fiscal impact and be in the biennial and so the effective date July first twenty twenty five but I do know as and I want to acknowledge what Senator Irvin said is there is going to be a shift there is going to be a cost but part of the process and and I guess I would make this argument we can going to enter Saudi that's fine. We have the old structure that we not operate under we will have to operate under because it is low so the discussions moving forward on what is going to be the true cost based on an old farm formula that's currently in law that we would have to you to determine the adequacy yet at the same time we want to do an interstate here we want to have that conversation as we go forward I think it's going to be more confusing because we're going to try to build around an old wall that we know that several of the stress they don't lie and so we're going to try to do this in a year and a half time under an old law knowing that run to tweak it as we go is that really the best method moving forward versus moving forward with a new approach that addressed a lot of the issues that have been expressed over the years adequacy has been being discussed would not be better to have this new model so that we can build toward what would be a conclusion as far as not only the cost but the tweaking that can occur through the processes that are built in the bill one of the main things to consider about this bill is that it's our working bill it will be worked on for the next year and a half and then rules will be provided by the department of ed and then it will be proven that is going to do what it needs to do to be effective and efficient and adequate funding for all students and schools if for some unknown reason that something doesn't work right it won't. Something doesn't work right it won't do the job that we wanted to do it this bill will not be made will not actually be made active until July twenty twenty five we can then take it up and if we don't like it then we can adjust from there I'm going back to this comment and uses my closing comment not appreciate your vote on this as I mentioned I was in on the Education Committee but I sat in on those means because I want to understand adequacy and I'm on a standard tell you understand everything about adequacy there is to understand about it okay but the one thing I do understand is that listening in those meetings everybody complained about Atticus we about the process that we have so here's presented to you an opportunity to move forward with something new okay modeled after what another state that is as open to advancing our educational system as we are and we can use this as a template moving forward knowing that that does work out we still have a stop gap to change it but the discussions can be built around something new that will align with the learns Act that we just passed instead of having discussion about the learns Act under an old attic which tell you study that a lot of people been complaining about for a lot of years so we can either quit complaining what we can do something new and set a new course knowing we got a built in stop gap if it doesn't work out thanks very much I appreciate a good vote. Senator has closed. Any objection rowing the boat objection noted madam secretary please call the roll Boyd. Right. Caldwell Chesterfield. Clark. Kroll. Davis. These. DISMANG. DISMANG. Dotson. English. Flippo. Flowers Gilmore. Hammer. Hester. Hester. Hickey. Hello. Hello. Irvine. Blake Johnson. Mark Johnson. King. King. Leding. Love. Love. Mickey. Mickey. Murdock. Payton. Penzo. Yes Petty. Rice. Rice. Staff. Stubblefield. Sullivan. Tucker. Wallace. Again on this side of any centers which you change your vote for the vote Senator Kroll no. Love yes. Dismang president. Any others. This site Hester no Payton no rice no. Any others. I'll let you know. Any others. Please cast a ballot. Babbo Ted twelve the eight fourteen eight one not voting and six present house bill sixteen eighty nine sales manager motion. Senator Hammer you're recognized for motion motion to expunge the vote by which house bill sixteen eighty nine failed to return it to the house. Motion to expunge the vote by which house bill sixteen eighty nine fails and returning to the house all those in favor signify by saying aye. Any of those. As have it motion carries. Return to the House. Well now take at house bill seventeen twelve. House bill seventeen twelve per cent development center Wallace to amend the Arkansas speed trap law. And Wallace you're recognized governor. Members a few years ago couple sessions ago we wrote of of what I think was a very good speed trap bill. Because ever tells that there there were. The speed trap. This bill does not affect those towns it does clarify some language it will help some towns to get caught up in this speed trap rule they're not true speed Terrence. Specifically what it does. If a. Town has a state highway passing through it. If it does not decrease the speed limit. As an example cash Arkansas. the speed limit on the four lane sixty five miles an hour cash Arkansas does not. Drop it down the fifty or forty or thirty five like the speed traps do. That's an example one example. The other thing it does is. We have towns that. We'll have the deputy shares in the. State police that will catch. Speedsters another good example cash Arkansas highway sixty seven should be interstate speed limit seventy five individuals come off that speed limit drops immediately down to sixty five however cash Arkansas which is four miles away will still have individual driving through the town at seventy five miles an hour well this bill was not written specifically for cash Arkansas I'm using them as an example I drive through cash Arkansas. At least two times a week I have never seen the. City police officers out there trying to catch people speeding back and forth. So I'll repeat this again what it does is if you can't be considered a speed trap if you have a state highway coming through your town. If the speed limit is posted. Sixty five miles away if you don't drop it if the stays the same through the town that you not the speed trap. Or if you're building up money for the state police or the county deputies are funny people speeding that doesn't count against you either. So with that I'll stand by for your questions. Questions for senator Wallace. Anyone wish to speak against her for. Senator eyes closed. Any objections rowing the boat. Madam secretary please roll the vote. Boyd Brown Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis these dismaying Johnson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love queue McKee Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stem Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace any senator wish to change his or her vote Senator Clark no dis president. Any others. King president. Any others. C. nine please cast up the ballot. By a vote of thirty eight one night and to present house bill seventeen twelve passes returned to the house. House bill seventeen thirty seven houseful seventeen thirty seven by representative of Richardson and center Petty an act to create the property owner's right to allow for our lives our arms Act. Senator Petty you're recognized thank you Mr president members this does just exactly what it says it's creating a property owner rights to allow you to allow your gas your customers to carry a firearm onto your property and basically the purpose of this is to protect the property owner from civil liability from generally when they allowed non employees to carry firearms on their property and that's it in a nutshell and I'd be happy to try to answer any questions any questions for centre Petty. Anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator has closed any objection to rolling the vote. Madam secretary please role of a board prime Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Davis these Dismang Johnson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love McKee Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice system Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator wish to change his or her vote Senator Tucker no. Senator Leding is no. Chesterfield president love no. Any others. Murdock president. Any others. St nine please cast a ballot by a vote of twenty eight Yang three may and to present house bill seventeen thirty seven passes please return to the House house bill seventeen forty eight house bill seventeen forty eight members independently and Senate for Stubblefield to establish the law concerning a convention called under article five of the United States constitution. Senator you're recognized thank you governor. Our colleagues five years ago when I pass this bill. We owe twenty trillion dollars in debt. Today we **** we over almost thirty two trillion dollars in debt. If you think we can keep up with this. Then you need to take a course in financial management because if you have not read our businesses where the federal government religious budget would be broken six months. Our government the federal government is broken. It is mismanaged. There was two there was too provisions put in the constitution to remedy this the eight the second part of article five is just as much a part of the constitution as the first part of article five and the founders intended for to be that way you've received a lot of emails. Some of those but not some of those the biggest part of those are coming from a group and this happened four years ago five years ago. Two hundred sixty groups funded by a gentleman named George Soros. Comes out against the are the article five a convention of states any come out against this because George Soros believes that. Big government is the answer to United States problems and the and the the the truth is when you have more government you have less liberty. And that's exactly where he's had to do with this so these these emails you've gotten on this is not about it's not about this process because this isn't much of the constitution as the first part of article five if you've read it. When we passed by the way this bill deals nothing with article five we've already passed active nineteen states that are members of that now. They too are passing these these resolutions are these bills to set up a process by which you select the members to go some of the and they all have checks and balances that are so stringent. That you can be charged for the a class B. felony if you go to one of these conventions and you bring up a subject outside of the three subjects that have been selected in that is and I don't know of anybody here should be for this term limits balancing the budget and raining in and out of control federal government. We should all be for that. And that's reason these that's the reason this process to set up like I said we passes five years ago we owed twenty trillion dollar now we thirty two trillion dollars our kids and our grandkids. Will not pay this off. The constitutional amendment process was built. Into the consolation and to the constitution for a reason a way to change the constitution was needed because of the riders knew that said creating an unfinished document some states about. That they would not ratify the constitution unless this provision was put in the constitution and it was at the last moment the gentleman named George Mason. Came up and said. Tell the other early founders that we have made a grave mistake this is all in the archives we made a great mistake we have given all the power to the federal government and we've given very little to the people. That's what the constitution is all about we are the ones that should be making the decisions and yet. After all these years of levels and levels in different layers of government bureaucracy the people have lost their voice okay and were in Washington so this bill simply sets a. Process by which we select delegates will be chosen by Senate pro tem Speaker of the house the B. five citizens and other groups they will have to take an oath of all emails from the Attorney General the secretary of state will pick one. And they'll be alternate delegates who will have to go through the same process so it's a very closely vetted. a process by which. If they're not gonna be any they're not gonna be any years if you thank you if you think the constitution had not a problem go back to go back to the eighteenth amendment. With eight the fact the. Since the Senate the ledges the United States legislature passed the eighteenth amendment which route which put in prohibition and then the twenty first repealed. So. Yeah I don't think we're probably as efficient the state legislature to make seven very high bar not only does it take thirty four to call for a convention thirty four states it takes thirty eight to ratify that that is a very high bar in the intended for to be high for reason to make sure the laws of our country remains stable. So I would encourage turgid vote for this it's a it's a good bill and I have directed our country's eight again your children my children may live in a totally different United States and we we grew up in thank you very much. Any questions. Senator Blake Johnson you're recognized for a question. If a delegate is seated. And declared independence. Is that elected under state law he's under law or federal law state law. AS independence's. You will be sworn in at the state level. And and tell what is authority is at the conviction and if you get it goes outside of the scope of those subjects we talked about he will be charged. Under that's in this bill. Under state law the becomes independent citizen. Declaration. By the Attorney General. Because it is also in this bill thank you Sir you're welcome Senate. Do you think. People today are smarter than our founding fathers. Last question. Search. Do I think they're smarter today than our founding fathers. and a lot in a lot of areas no I don't think our founding fathers with the rent of the thirty two trillion dollar debt. Well since you mentioned thirty two trillion dollar debt free with that. You know who the second largest contributors are our national debt. The president. The highest one is set contributors to the national debt behind the president in office what is it what is the second largest. Hi I have no idea other than just. Governors and state legislatures state legislator well not all senator king. Arkansas has a balanced budget amendment why can't the federal government had one. Okay the question is to the national debt. And state. Not all governors. We spend more money than we do state tax dollars Medicaid everything else so. I mean you've been both to. Depend on the federal dollars more and more and more. Contributes to the national debt one of the biggest things they say. That is Medicaid anything voter meeting here here or is that what you're talking about. Five read which you can correct right here the second party is you said more government. That was less right correct are we spending more money today than we did two years ago or a year ago. Well I would ask you in this legislative session whatever you want with money wise spending and everything else that has. Yes. So did you vote for our state. That increase yesterday at three seven. Hey any. We are. Government. Are you spending more on your farm today than you did two years ago. Only we are sending our farmers. We're making corrections to make sure our speeding let does not and I do the same thing or if the business is not sort those things and make sure that we're staying spending is flat my brother and I've been very careful about that and I do the same Senator king so that state spending is not saying you're gonna say more government equals less liberty then your votes should reflect that in our RSA in federal government spending it has. So well I don't I don't know when the last time Arkansas gave sixty million dollars to Uruguay to put on some kind of shows. We had an increase in Medicaid spending which does that I don't have a vote on that a vote on Medicaid okay. Senator Dismang. Thank you governor I wanna make sure I understand so we've already adopted the resolution to authorize you make Arkansas one of the states wanting to have an the five. Correct we we were thirteen there's now nineteen okay and how many does it take takes thirty four thirty four to call to nineteen thirty four when we pass hours with pastor five years ago Senator Hendren was the pro team I believe. It's six more states jump on in the same period of time that it is a twenty five and we're still not close to the thirty four correct and so my only concern when I look at is amended. I don't think it's necessary at this point the close enough about having this convention to Ford for that matter but the other thing I want to look at it he gives three delegates to the Arkansas house of representatives in two delegates Arkansas Senate where all elected Rick represent the same number of people in our in our representation in this delegation should be less than the are the House representatives. As I'm just curious of how we came to to from the Senate and three from the house that would be members of this delegation instead of a more active role three three year to into whatever it may be well and also there's a they a group of citizen delegates that will be chosen to by the Senate Tim by the Senate pro tem yeah and and you know this is following a pattern that other states have done based on the number of people so last Saturday chamber and we we typically like to have legal representation one more on the Committee image reason we're able to You know both by the vision and they'll see when we're not you known around the session so that if there's an equal contribution at the end of the day if there needs to be again my concern with legislation weights written we diminish the input of the Arkansas Senate and lifted up the input of the Arkansas House by allowing them to have three delegates to or to electrify the respective bodies again we all represent the same number. and so that that would be my concern with Bills read okay. Senator Tucker you're recognized for a question thank you Mr president Senator that we balance our budget through the revenue stabilization act which is in code or not actually an amendment to the state constitution in Arkansas yeah yes but not at the federal level yeah thank you. Any other questions. Anymore Senator Hammer questions. Thank you. For a tag on a question that the four digit clarification. Are we not already in the group that has done what we have to do in order to be considered any of that a nonstate. Come together to call the for the convention they cannot call for conviction to do we if thirty four states that have passed a resolution. That's not my language that is in the constitution. What have we not reduce the amount of tax center this. Have we not previously done what we needed to do and the resolution in order to be on the as being a state number thirty nine. Looks like we have time to be able to revisit that I see no reason that we would diminish our presence in that delegation by. You know way ahead of the game giving the House three delegates verses are to understand the rest out plays out with appointments and that sort of thing but again I I don't see the reason do that we're we're a ways away from being able to have this conversation is being a real issue we can revisit it and maybe the next time will make it a Senate bill but thank you. Anyone else wish to speak for or against. Senator has closed. Any objection rowing the boat. Objection noted man secretary please call the roll. Oh eight one of Boyd. Right. Caldwell. Caldwell Chesterfield. Clark. Kroll. Davis. Davis. Days. DISMANG. Dotson. Dotson. English. Flippo. Flowers. Gilmore. Hammer. Hammer. Hester. Hickey. Hickey. Health. Irvine. Irvine. Blake Johnson. Blake Johnson. Mark Johnson. King. Leding. Love. McKee. Murdock. Payton. Penzo Petty. Petty. Rice. I stand. Stubblefield. Sullivan. Tucker. Wallace. Wallace. Any centers wish to vote or change your vote Davis no. Any others on the side. This side. Wallace yes. Dotson yes. Any others. Petty yes. Any other please speak at. Yes. Irvine yes. Many others. C. nine please cast up the ballot. Batboat twenty eight twelve nine eight one not voting. House Bill seventeen forty eight passes. She returned to the house. House bill seventeen forty nine. House bill seventeen forty nine by representative shall authorize uniform purchases for the department of public safety and off price department of public safety purchase uniforms for the employees of a law enforcement of safety office Senator pro you're recognized thank you ma'am governor this is simple our partners from DPS wanna buy one uniform for two hundred dollars for their police officer every year. One officer. Any questions anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator has any objection rowing the boat. Maddox secretary please roll the vote. Boyd Brown Caldwell Chesterfield Clark cruel Davis D. dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvin Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love McKee Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice done Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator wish to change his or her vote saying nine. Please cast up the ballot mad thirty three eight zero nine house bill seventeen forty nine passes returned to the house. House Bill seventeen fifty. Seventeen fifty by representative on current Senator McKee authorize certain persons to carry a weapon on department of corrections property authorize certain department of corrections officials and employees to carry a concealed weapon and declare an emergency. Senate Helmore you're recognized thank you governor members this pretty simple just clarifies who can have a weapon on department of corrections property allows a secretary to grant that access. For employees. Any questions for Senator Gilmore. Same nine anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator has closed any objection rowing the boat. Secretary please roll the vote. Boyd Bryant Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis DES dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice tone Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator wish to change their vote Senate. No. Senator Tucker no Chesterfield mo Leding no. Murdock. Any other senator research changes her vote scene nine please cast up the ballot. But twenty eight yeah eight five name House Bill seventeen fifty passes and the corresponding emergency clauses adopted please return to the House house bill seventeen fifty six announced plans for Senator Hester you're recognized for the announcmenet members if you give me just a second here before I present this bill. After I do this bill will be down to one page senator of them will come up and we'll see if we can match any of those so if you be looking at the whole next page super willing to match any of those that would be great right after president this bill we're gonna reach some items across the desk one will be the tire bill that is now back here the used tire bill and so will we will be able to just get a read across the desk so that we can get it out of committee and added on to the back of the counter today. Server to give with that look at the last page once I'm done here senator will come up and Do what she's been doing the last few days with with the action. Okay I'm finished. That last passage of Senate bill two thirty seven by the House. And rolling the passage symbol for fifty five by the House. 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Public health. Do that. House Bill seventeen fifty six houseful seventeen fifty six by representative Shepherd Senator Hester to amend the law concerning campaign finance in campaign finance reports to amend the law concerning the Arkansas ethics commission and to amend portions of initiated act one of nineteen ninety initiated act one of nineteen ninety six Senator Hester you're recognized. Thank you members this but we worked on most the session we work with the ethics commission on it it is something that they they find tolerable now but the the reality is we're at is we're we're making almost all the numbers two hundred dollars so if it was fifty dollars on reporting now to moved up to two hundred dollars if it was five hundred dollars all reporting it's down to two hundred dollars but for those of us to do our own campaign finance reports for those accounts to doing for people the two hundred dollars is it if you're ever questioning like does it have to be reportable or is it not when somebody's you know when you're filling out reports how much detail yet have removing the number it's two hundred dollars so right now we know if somebody gives an aggregate of fifty dollars or more so they give you ten dollars a month once they hit fifty dollars you have to report their name now we're gonna move that to two hundred and so But also if you're political action committee right now I want you get five hundred dollars you had reported we're dropping that down to two hundred dollars as well for making a two hundred dollar a consistent a consistent theme. Then something that's Important for us to we're gonna be able to file a citizen to commit to file complaints online. Okay so right now you can you can handle over you can mail them in but we're gonna be able to accept them through email or have an online system but they're gonna be a we're gonna we're gonna they're gonna work to rules on like verification who these people are because right now you know you have to have it notarized and then the last thing. It is it if you do not do a report. And for three consecutive. times within one election cycle so you missed the first report they're going to send you a letter so you didn't do your report next month you skip the second port they're gonna send you a letter saying you didn't do your report third month if three consecutive months to ignore the ethics reporting you're supposed to do you will receive an automatic thousand dollar fine. Unless there is good costs. And there could be a lot of reasons probably for for good cause I don't know but we're gonna leave the ethics commission the ability to that define what that is but it will not be a surprise to somebody because when you sign up to give a good address right and you immediately start and so if you don't to report you get a you will you receive a letter in the mail month one month two after the third consecutive time you don't do it not the third overall so third consecutive time within an election cycle you would receive a fine I'm happy to answer any further questions questions Senator English. So does this for every every quarter or whatever if you haven't done anything yet. We have a standing committee is that is that still you don't have to do that that's correct you still would not have to do it and then the other thing is is the. Computer financial thing online is that. Well it it will be fixed and there's a little language in here that says it will actually aggregate for you so if you're putting in somebody's at twenty dollars for five hundred dollars it this is requiring that it aggregates for you so that you would automatically know if somebody is given above a threshold that they shouldn't have which could happen accidentally if see if you reported something on a primary or you know if that ever happens it's almost always an unintentional but the system would notify you of that the new system or is it still. I you know that's up to the secretary of state I don't know we're not requiring a particular system or new we're just giving them further instructions on with the system they do use has to be able to do okay. Senator Chesterfield. Thank you madam chair Senator Hester. Let me be clear. It's now if you have a minimum of two of four center St that's correct okay. What is troubling is that I received the letter. Because I did not report because I had raised anything and I had to spend anything is there some clarity that because in the past if you hadn't raised anything. Anything we didn't have we didn't have to file a report and so I did. But then I got a letter from the ethics commission sign you have not report a single at any rate. They. They expected me to turn that in that say it at the rate. And that is my concern because it never happened to me before. Yeah I I I don't believe their expectation is that you wouldn't say it I think it's it's it's kind of a it's it's a fail safe fresher parachute the face in the law they send you a letter saying Hey you didn't file a report if you like well I didn't have to not in raising money that is no problem but if you like I just forgot those letters are actually a good thing for us you know if you if you didn't file a report you get a letter in the mail. Senator Mark Johnson. Thank you madam president. Senator Hester I have no problem with the intent of this bill. But I've struggled with the computer system and I. I hate it really critical but two years ago I sponsored we passed a bill for the secretary of state's office to revamp their online filing. And. If passed pretty much unanimously I think and they've been working on it and they promise this promise that I can say today from personal experience that. Not only is it not working but it works against the intent of the original legislation which is transparency and and that's a wonderful thing. But I want to know if your bill has any. What college exceptions loopholes for some of the things that can go wrong I have had software glitches that it cost me to file a report the next day after it was do you I have had the on specifically this year on a pack report I tried to go in and and review the pack situation I think we've done something to fix that act out believe it represented rated that by my may be wrong but the fact is that we depend on this senator Chesterfield just mention the situation she had no expenditures and no contributions in the court that what you're supposed to be on the online form you could check a box that's basically it was a no activity report. And I'd. No we can do that now because the old system is dead I will call at that meeting there could and the new system is not up yet asked some members and I put in that bill two years ago what I would call a no fault of paper filing requirements other words even if you'd rather file you can file on paper if you without having to say I don't have a broadband connections and some centers have taken advantage of that the other thing that I put in that it was that and I think this is good for everybody my life some people might like this I'd rather go online but where you could fill out an on on your computer fill in the blanks PDF and put all the activity in that and then rather than trying to upload or whatever printed out for sending text of an email to the Secretary of State I only ask you about these. Look exceptions and and protections because. We're in a situation where as you well know this is something for our political opposition to play gotcha with and it's become so complicated that it is not difficult to make a mistake and I I just ask you if if this bill I have not read it well enough to to be able to to know so I'm trusting you and asking you is there something in this that allows us to mitigate the fact that we tried the system didn't work for this moment doesn't exist and then work but we're gonna have to be held accountable you know you know what happened senator you know that your opponent filed the complaint says he's being investigated by the ethics commission. And it takes a month or two or three to even take a look at it therefore we're sitting there under this cloud of accusation when really we were a victim of improper functioning software so I just I'm I'm OK with the concept of matter fact I support the concept overwhelmingly but I'm I keep worrying about. Run to the secretary of state's office the base budget at four twenty five in the afternoon trying to get some the last day and they're already locked up this is the kind of thing I've had to deal with and I'm just asking is is going to give us the flexibility to avoid those types of of slings and arrows of the coming our way. Sure is thank you senator Johnson you spoken at that great lengths about frustrations have nothing to do with this with this bill and and well I think everyone in the group room would agree that that that the online system is is not adequate this bill I think it dresses at least some of your immediate concerns on the gotchas and what happens now to that rather than having different different type of goals all or like from fifty dollars or five hundred moving everything to two hundred that way there's less confusion or concern about what off reporter what do I not report that eliminates hopefully helps address some potential concerns on got just and then if you look on page six. Line thirteen it says third and subsequent so if you have one time you have a problem when you run down there and you can't get it fixed my guess is that will not happen three consecutive times in one election cycle so it does address your concern for many you know the potential concern that the online system wasn't working tonight or didn't end the third thing it does in there that helps alleviate your concerns is it the online system will require it to go ahead and do an aggregate for you so you know the exact amount of that someone has given and so or that you've reported they've given anyway so I I I I think I actually share your concerns with the difficulties of the online system that there continue to make better work through I believe this bill addresses and helps each one of those concerns with you would still be allowed to have a hearing or whatever it the ethics commission even if you were really not in ms three in a row or something like it absolutely said you get this fine unless you have good cause meaning you have the ability to you have the ability to show good costs okay thank you senator what thank you. Senator Dotson. Thank you governor Senator Hester. You the said something your presentation sorry completely missed this yesterday committee and the other parts of the bill it completely understood and just with regards to the ability for an online system for complaints to be filed And doing away with the requirement for no notarization. That online. Does that. Does the I guess the form still have to be notarized that they're emailing in or fax. I guess is the. On the bottom line of the question okay so we make sure it's coming from a legitimate. Human and not just some got it absolutely will be verified that it's a legitimate person and and and what is going on and most of this just like we do with so many these laws that we pass in you look at the last page is the the rules are become will be promulgated by the by the ethics commission on that but there is a desire that most everything that we're doing in our lives are moving towards online or at least at least a process to move we're adding that in you can still mail it in you can still hand walk it in you can still accident if anybody you know on the facts of the work for state government the bid for you or the online well the way the way I'm reading this it's not that is that is that this commission can set up an online portal for someone to log in and type it in the form will be made available the last printed out fill it in. But do they start to get that and I have before they scan it and email it in or fax I guess. Yeah I don't have an exact answer I don't know what would be any different than something you mail interview printed off line so if you have when it's when it's mailed in and it has to happen a notary than I would assume it would still continue to have to notary if you print it off line. Thank you. But again again the ethics commission has the right to prime rate those rules and they they do not have the intent of having a bunch extra complaints in fact I believe this is driven to have less complaints with the Morse with a more simple system. Senator Tucker. But he really does this Senator Hester but I was just. Respond to the point that senator mark Johnson raised you get a five unless there's costs and the software not working would be false I think absolutely would be good because. Senator Clark. Could questions first. Everybody else's else as someone who had a bill two years ago to do something about the software and was assured that it would be the so we have four walls said. They actually said we had to do it that way what we have. that we had to do electronically so we're going to do it on the supporter of Office that's masquerading assault. Is that correct. I don't that's nothing to this bill but maybe okay. That's because we discontinue all because this is the government were citizens and you know my wife after. Really helpful so ours is here's for more. Pressure sixty eight. Senate bill after doing this over over to this is incredibly bad. What a volunteer with high school with the witness see a phone for a major company volunteer to sit down and show more almost all after spending this unbelievable hours for to screw it all up and then you have to come back and do adjustments that are wrong. And at the same time that we're being held liable for getting it right. So so all that are present which we're still going to do with the software. Yeah unfortunately I wish somebody filed a bill to change software this has nothing to do with the current software and the inadequacies of the current software this has to do with the inputs that you put into the software making that more consistent I hear everyone's frustration with the software we all have frustrations software I thought this bill this is about inputs into the software. Research to try to make everything uniform this is what the bill. Again with government reporting and your offer so you. Explain what you're trying to make it all uniform the card. We have expenditures all season. The for. If the chamber of commerce banquet with the formal adherence there under five hundred dollars but now we're lower to two hundred dollars so that we're just constantly following reports even when we're out of season. And nothing's going all. That is true thank. Any other questions anyone wish to speak against. For Senator you're pretty close yeah members I I hope you know there was a lot of questions and almost the ninety plus percent of the concerns here have nothing to do with this bill their frustrations with the online system frustrations with how it's being ran the software's inadequacies and we would all agree with that that would receive unanimous consent that the system is not great this is not that bill this bill is about inputs into the current system we have the ability the secretary of state has the ability to change that system in the off season this is just about the simplification of the inputs into the system and with that I'd appreciate a good vote. Thank you senator has closed Madam Secretary please call the roll. What. Brian. Caldwell Chesterfield. Chesterfield. Clark. Clark. Kroll. Davis these. Davis Dismang. DISMANG. Dotson. English English Flippo. Flowers Gilmore. Gilmore. Hammer. Hester. Hickey. Health. Irvine. Blake Johnson Mark Johnson. King. Leding. Love. Mickey. Murdock. Payton. Penzo. Yes Petty. Rice. Price. Sturm. Stubblefield. Sullivan. Tucker. Wallace. Sanders did not vote who wish to vote or change your vote Senator Clark no. Senator these yes Dotson president. Any other centers on the side of. Centers on the side. C. nine. Please cast a ballot. Back to twenty nine eighty eighty one eighty two not voting no one present House Bill seventeen fifty six passes please return to the House. Per your committee on public health to whom was referred Senate bill five oh eight I resent Payton recommend due pass to concur in the house amendments one and two. Calendar. Senator Irvin you're recognized I make a motion to suspend the rules to add Senate bill five oh eight at the bottom of our calendar for consideration for purpose of concurring the house amendments. Motion to put Senate bill five zero eight at the bottom of the council to suspend the rules Senate bill five await the bottom of the calendar. For purposes and amendment all those in favor signify by saying aye. Any oppose ayes have it motion carries. Okay. The bachelor the bachelor's to. You want to do that batch list. I we recess I wanted the backs now a recess. Yeah that's what we're gonna do right now. The next bill is not passed. Okay that's in Irvine if you want to read a list of bills on the second page and we'll pull out which wants to be voted separately yeah which one to all of the the back yes thank you Senator Rapert you're recognized. Okay members Senate bill seventeen fifty nine has been pulled her request of a of a member. House bill seventeen sixty has an emergency clause will have to pull that one house bill seventeen sixty five has been pulled prior request. Seventeen seventy two as simple by request seventeen seventy five anybody want to pull seventeen seventy five okay it'll be in a batch seventeen seventy seven anyone it'll be in the batch. Seventeen eighty four has been pulled by a member seventeen eighty nine simple by member. Seventeen ninety five anyone have issues a seventeen ninety five. Okay it'll be in the batch. Eighteen oh two has an emergency clause so after that one separately in eighteen forty five is in full by member so there's only three bills that would be in a batch. So seventeen seventy five seventeen seventy seven in seventeen ninety five. There there they are on the screen right there. Okay. House bill seventeen seventy five by representative fall. In center Tucker to amend the law concerning the uniformity Tennyson leave policy act to amend the law concerning sick leave and create Auster Care late. House bill seventeen seventy seven a representative Ferguson center Murdock to amend the law concerning the power of a municipality to vacate a public street or alley and to allow municipalities to vacate and abandon a street or alley when all property abetting the street or alley is owned by the Sam. Hassle seventeen ninety five. By representative Hodges to amend the minimum teacher compensation schedule under the public school funding Act of two thousand three to include open enrollment public charter schools. Any questions on the bank should anyone wish to speak against or for any objection rowing the boat. Madam secretary please robot board Bryant Caldwell Chesterfield Clark cruel Davis the Dismang Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love McKee Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice stem Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any center which to change his or her vote Senator king not voting. Any other Senator. Same nine please casts up the ballot. But thirty two Yankees zero nine in one it not voting. The batch at house bill seventeen seventy five house bill seventeen seventy seven and house bill seventeen ninety five passed returned to the house. Will now take at house bill seventeen fifty nine. Thank you. House bill seventeen fifty nine by representative Collins and senator Kroll to amend Arkansas law concerning redevelopment districts. Senator Kroll you're recognized thank you governor this amendment cleans up inconsistencies and ambiguities in the existing law redevelopment districts are an economic development tool that is encouraged on to improve the read and redevelop blighted areas currently this law permits financing for development to a curry occur in phases but the forty year time limit would prevent second third this legislation simply removes the inconsistencies and allows the areas to get improved that most need it. Any questions Senator all say nine anyone wish to speak against or for. Any objection to growing the vote. Objection noted madam secretary please call the roll. Boyd. Brian. Caldwell Chesterfield. Chesterfield. Clark. Clark. Kroll. Davis. The. These. DISMANG. Dotson. English. English. Flippo. Flowers Gilmore. Gilmore. Hammer. Tester. Hickey Health. Irvine. Blake Johnson. Mark Johnson. King. Leding. Love. The key. Murdock. Murdock. Page. Penzo. Petty. Rice. Stone. Stubblefield. Stubblefield. Sullivan. Sullivan. Tucker. Wallace. Chesterfield. Anyone wish to change his or her vote McKee no. Anyone else. Gilmore yes. Any other Senator. C. nine please cast up the ballot vote to twenty five Yeas for name for not voting house bill seventeen fifty nine passes please return to the House. House bill seventeen sixty. House bill seventeen sixty. By representative of. Cavenaugh and Senator English to amend the law regarding alcoholic beverages to repeal certain requirements related well wholesalers and declare an emergency. Senate Patty you're recognized. Members I was been working with Attorney General's office so Senator English asked me to present this one all H. B. seventeen sixty does is clean up some ever strikes some on unconstitutional language that requires the residency for five years to be a whole sell alcohol licensee and this will also Alleviate some issues with some pending litigation with that Happy to answer any questions any questions for centre Petty. Anyone wish to speak against before. Any objections rowing the boat. Secretary please roll the vote. Boyd Brown Caldwell Chesterfield Clark quarrel Davis these dismaying Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love thank you Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice style Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace any senator wish to change his or her vote Senator Dotson no Senator Pitsch no Senator Davies. Any other. McKee president. Any other. C. nine. Senator Penzo no. Any other. C. nine please cast the ballot. By a vote of twenty eight four nine eight one present house Bill seventeen sixty eight passes an emergency clause adopted please return to the House house bill seventeen sixty five house bill seventeen sixty five a representative winning top prize Arkansas towing and recovery board to establish rules necessary for the towing recovery and storage of electric vehicles. Senator Mark Johnson you're recognized. Thank you madam president before I present the bill I'd like for the Senate to please recognize acknowledge and someone in the gallery my good friend Jason Bollinger he's chairman of the Faulkner County Republican committee. Thank you Mr chairman for come madam president this is a real simple bill I really surprise anybody wonderful if the bad. Of electric cars for towing are very different believe me I have experienced some of the problems with it there's not only difficulty in how you tow it but then there's potential danger to citizens and to the people Our mind if if it was damaged in an accident if if a backup battery is seriously damaged their specific ways that you disable it to move the vehicle And these these are things that are covered under the existing rules of the Arkansas towing Republic for and recovery board so this bill does a simple thing it authorizes the towing and recovery board to promulgate rules that are necessary in these instances of dealing with electric vehicles and the in the mandates that they complete that and submit them for approval by to the A. L. C. by October thirty first twenty twenty three I'll be happy to answer any questions any questions for Senator Mark Johnson. Anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator you're pretty close I'm close. It's close any objections rowing the boat. Secretary please role of a board brown Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis these dismaying Johnson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love McCaig Murdock Payton Penzo Petty Ronstadt Sturch Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any center injured centre Johnson president any other. C. nine please cast the ballot by voting thirty two days the road name one president house bill seventeen sixty five passes please return to the House Secretary I'm at the desk. Your committee on Insurance commerce to whom was referred Senate bill one eighty one by Senator Hammer recommend to pass to concur on house amendment number one. Calendar. House bill seventeen seventy two. House bill seventeen seventy two by representative Johnson Senator Davis to create the psychological and neuro psychology testing work for scholarships have been an incentive program. Senator Davis you're recognized thank you madam president and this bill it creates a scholarship program president and proposed by the psychology board to address workforce issues related to psychological testing and assessment this will be funded by surplus in their fund. Thank you any questions for Senator Davis. Anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator has closed any objection to rolling the vote and secretary please roll. Boyd Bragg Caldwell Chesterfield Clark coral Davis these Dismang Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding huh Love McKee Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rhinestone Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace. Any senator wish to change his or her vote McKee NO any others. Say no others please cast a ballot by a vote to thirty two yeah eight one nine house bill seventeen seventy two passes please return to the House house bill seventeen eighty four house bill seventeen eighty four by representative Pilkington to amend the law concerning concealed handguns and to protect the rights of medical marijuana patients and care givers to obtain a license to carry a concealed handgun. Senator Penzo you're recognized thank you Mr president. House bill seventeen eighty four has to mean the law concerning concealed handguns purpose of this bill is to ensure the rights of Arkansas's medical marijuana patients and care givers are protected by removing any ambiguity ambiguity about their lawful right to obtain a license to carry a concealed handgun this bill instructs the state police not to consider a person's status as a qualifying patient or caregiver participating in the state's medical marijuana program and prohibits the department of health from disclosing the identity of a medical marijuana card patient to the state police for the purpose of facilitating a background check for the issuance of a CCL. Previously. Due to uncertainty with federal law the Arkansas state police did not extend the protections written into Amendment ninety eight which states that no patient should have any right or privilege infringed upon on the basis of their patient status now the federal government is issued guidance that echoes the law's intent and also says gun rights should not be restricted based on a person having a medical marijuana card. Additionally NO other prescription medication including opioids disqualifies anyone from having a CC a license medical marijuana patient should not be an exception. This bill ensures otherwise qualified our Kansans have the right to obtain a concealed Kerry license regardless of their medical medical marijuana status. And happy to answer any questions any questions Senator Gilmore you're recognized. The thank you for the question there's been concerns of reciprocity as it relates to Arkansas carry with other states can you tell me that's been addressed or where that is currently in your conversation state police will. So. Reciprocal reciprocal agreements are between states I I would probably point to Oklahoma the past similar legislation in may of twenty one I believe so it's been almost two years and they currently have reciprocity with thirty eight states in Arkansas has reciprocity with thirty seven states so they actually have more they haven't lost in the last two years since they passed comparable legislation so I don't I don't think it's going to affect reciprocal agreements between us and other other states. Follow from a thank you for answering that the other thing is under preemption is there any concerns as to. what this means for us considering that you know this state of marijuana under federal law. Will. With that I'd probably point to Amendment ninety eight of is in conflict with federal law that was initiated by the people passed by the people and in in that it says that the intent of the people was that the new patient should have any rights or privileges of fringe upon them on the basis of the patient's status so I mean Amendment ninety eight is what the conflict is with federal law so this just gives direction to the Department health state police on how to handle this. Thank you any other questions Senator live you're recognized for a question. Thank you. Senator. As being any. AS cardholders that had been. Been subject to not receiving a concealed weapons license because. I'm sorry that is that I think is the first part of that I'm sorry has there been any cardholder marijuana cardholders who have been subject to not receiving their license because. I believe I believe on the request form it asks if you have your medical marijuana card so if if anybody has indicated that they do then I'm sure they have been to that I can't give you specific numbers but they would they would not have won issued if they mark that they do have the medical marijuana card so so okay our thank you. Any other questions anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator has closed any objection to rowing the boat. Objection noted madam secretary please call the roll Boyd. Brian. Caldwell Chesterfield. Clark. Roll. Davis. Davis. These. Days. DISMANG. DISMANG. Dotson. Dotson. English. English. Lepo. Flowers Gilmore. Hammer. Hammer. Hester. Hickey. Hickey. Hello. Health. Irvine. Irvine. Blake Johnson. Mark Johnson. King. Leding. Love. Love. The key. Murdock. Page. Penzo yeah. Petty. Rice. Rice. Statham. Stubblefield. Sullivan. Tucker. Wallace. Any centers which injured vote or to vote Senator Dotson yes Senator Kroll yes Senator love yes any others on the side. This side. Hey king NO. Any other. Senator Davis yes. Senator these yes. Any others. St nine. Please cast a ballot. Matt twenty sixty eight three nine two not voting and to present house bill seventeen eighty four passes please return to the House. House bill seventeen eighty nine. Passel seventeen eighty nine or of sentimental and then and Senator Stubblefield to prohibit contracts with the government of the people's Republic of con of China to amend the law concerning state contracts and amend the duties of the office of state procurement. Senator Stubblefield you're recognized thank you governor Senate house bill seventeen eighty nine is just one of the bill designed to protect Arkansas in our canton from the under the influence of comedy of the Communist Party of China seventeen eighty nine is a straight forward is simply prohibits Arkansas state agencies from entering into contracts with companies are owned. By affiliated and are unduly influenced by the people's Republic of China. This building been vetted by the governor's office and the department of commerce they're good with it. Any questions for Senator Stubblefield anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator has closed any objection to rowing the boat. Madam secretary please roll the vote Boyd Bragg Caldwell Chesterfield Clark cruel Davis these Dismang Dotson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me keep Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice done Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace any senator wish to change his or her vote Senator Tucker president Senator Leding president. Any others. St nine please casts up the ballot. Five thirty one a zero day and to present house bill seventeen eighty nine passes please return to the House house bill eighteen oh two House select Tino to by representative warned to amend membership of the Arkansas state board of public accountancy to amend law concerning the Arkansas state board of public accountancy and fire and emergency. Senator Petty you're recognized thank you madam president members we've dealt with boards and commissions a lot this one is that clean up to unfortunate situation with the Arkansas state or the Arkansas state board of public accountancy had a situation where they almost because of the way the rules are written almost did not have the ability to have a quorum to have a meeting and on top of that there executive director was chart resigned and so this just cleans that up it basically allows them to keep the institutional knowledge on the board when there are vacancy so with that I'd be happy to answer any questions any questions for senator Patty. Anyone wish to speak against for for. Senator sorry Senator Clark. Senator Clark you're recognized for a question. Senator is one of the problems with it in the form of the council meeting council board. That very well could be. well could be. Anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator has closed any objection to rowing the boat Madam Secretary please roll voice Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Kroll Davis Dismang Dawson English Flippo flowers Gilmore hammer Hester hill. Hickey Irving Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love McKee Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice done Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace any senator wish to change his or her vote. C. nine please cast a ballot. By a vote of three three eight zero name house bill eighteen oh two passes corresponding emergency clauses adopted please return to the house house house bill. Go ahead eighteen forty five I would ask the body to remind you all we've got just a few items left any unnecessary conversations please take out the whole way so we can finish. Eighteen forty five a representative Wardlaw to amend the law concerning environmental social justice or governance goers and to clarify this of information used in regulating environmental social justice or governor government stores. Senator Hill you're recognized. Thank thank you governor this is what I refer to as our Jimmy Hickey bill it's a clean up on our ESG projects he has worked so highly on all session with those so this is to clean up on two different spots we had had an air of release the oversight committee with that being said I appreciate a good vote. Any questions anyone wish to speak against her for. Sanders closed any objections rowing the boat. Section. I'm secretary please all of that. Western injection okay. I'm sector please call the roll away. Boyd Brian. Right. Caldwell. Chesterfield. Chesterfield. Clark. Clark. Kroll. Kroll. Davis. Davis. Days. Days. This mine. DISMANG. Dotson. English. Flippo. Flowers Gilmore. Hammer. Hester Hickey. Health. Irvine. Blake Johnson. Blake Johnson. Mark Johnson. King. Leding. Love. The key. Murdock. Murdock. Page. Penzo. Petty. Petty. Rice. Staff. Stubblefield. Stubblefield Sullivan. Sullivan. Tucker. Wallace. Senators who did not wish to vote Senator dis yes Senator Chesterfield no Senator Kroll yes Senator Dismang president Senator Murdock. No. Senator Solomon yes senator Wallace yes. Any others. Any others. Tucker. Brian president. Any other sane nine please casts up the ballot by a vote of twenty four yay seven ninety and to present House Bill eighteen forty five passes please return to the House Senator Hester you're recognized members I just wanted to I just wanted to give you an update so we're going to about here senator Hammer he's got to add house co sponsor of the bill so that it will match can't come Wallace that matches with the House did sorgen suspend the rules and add a house co sponsor them gonna hear the used tire bill the budget and at that point will be wrapped up and hopefully plenty of time to be with the governor for the moment of silence for the tornado victims on the front steps anyway. In the center of. Okay amendment one Senate bill one eighty one. This is. Senator Hammer. Thank you Mijares House said amendment to put the house sponsor and want to commend our staff because they help kitchen and didn't even know was there but they help catch it otherwise is would not become law also want to acknowledge our staff and say thank you very much to them for catchment appreciate a good vote all those in favor of amendment please signify by saying aye. Any oppose ayes have it members concurred in Senate bill one ninety one by Senator Hammer. To mandate coverage for the use of an. involved in to treat certain. The entry that disorders caused by infections and they're in the margin C. Senator Hammer you're recognized thank you ma'am you've heard bills for create a good vote. Centers close questions anyone wish to speak against or for anyone objected to the ruling of the vote. And secretary please role that. Boyd Bragg Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Davis these Dismang Johnson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love McKee Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rights stand Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace any senator wish to change his or her vote. C. nine please casts up the ballot by voting thirty three eight zero nine Senate bill one eighty one passes and rolling. Senator Irvin. Amendment one Senate bill five oh eight. Senator Payton you're recognized. Thank you madam president of this is the tire bill coming back from the house to amendments first memos good tech Amendment pretty much got it but it does still put into place the accountability boards and and hopefully down the road those accountability boards can convince people better and ideas that they have a cure and maybe it'll be better cure but I got. A little bit board this morning driving down here. And so I grab mobile tell the topic here on my pocket and started dictating a story. I have not. We all get to grade whether or not I should go into writing or not here in a minute. I want to his story about the Arkansas travelers. Arkansas traveler was doing down the road is not so separately. Somebody stop being pointed out to this tire was low. Get Lowe's. And He said he looked at it and they said well I've been driving on a tire for four days and this is the only day it's been low. So I think I'm going to school over further as he drove down the road no further more more people begin to point out that that tire was low. And is going load but Arkansas traveler been Arkansas traveler he went on a little bit too far running on the side wall of that low tire. So now the Arkansas traveler ends up sitting on the side of the road with a flat. Along comes somebody says you know all help you fix that flat. You're going to need new tire though. Arkansas traveler being the Arkansas travelers as I remember when I had steel wheels we ran on steel wheels. And they never went flat. So instead of buying a new tire thank all does run on the room. But several wise counselors were finally able to convince Arkansas traveler the driving on room for steel wheel. Just isn't what it used to be. For for for tires of course. So now take you to the tire shop for the expert hammered and beaten pushed and pulled and pride Dilys able get that bad tire broke down and off the room. Then the loop to beat on the new tire position to have beaten Hammerton question pride day got it one room. Well being hot and sweaty and tired from all that beating and banging and hammered. He decided to take a break. Maybe wash down a few peanuts within the high grade belly wash of. Sure enough folly wouldn't paying attention the green hand in the shop decide to take over. Having heard about how to see to be the with the third. The green and decided to shoot some either in there and have a little fun. Two to three. Let that mess off. Blew up the new tire scared the crap out of everybody in the shop. So here we are the shops amiss. Hebei's radio home. We don't have a new tire mounted. But maybe if we get a multitude of counselors appointed to these four accountability zones they can talk to the Arkansas traveler out of going back to steel wheels I appreciate all those in favor of the amendment please signify by saying aye. Any oppose ayes have it members concurred in amendment to to Senate bill five oh eight zero Pitsch yet over. Sure you don't want to read all that I'm close. Any no questions. No one wishes to speak against or for any objection to rowing the boat. I'm sorry. Sturch minute to. The card all those in favor signify by saying aye. Oppose ayes have it and it was concurred in. Senate bill five oh eight Senator Payton to amend the used tire recycling accountability act to amend the used tire programs and the fire and emergency. Better pay and you're recognized you will write them out of welcome boards okay Lamont and go. If there are no questions no one wishes to speak against or for any objection to rowing the boat. And secretary please roll the vote. Boyd. Of. Boyd Bragg Caldwell Chesterfield Clark. Davis these this line Johnson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvine Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love Me key Murdock Payton Penzo Petty price Statham Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace any senator wish to change his or her vote. C. nine please cast a ballot. By a vote of thirty three eight zero nine Senate bill five zero eight passes please enrollment center Irvin you're recognized and members make a motion to withdraw the Senate bills from further consideration Senate bill forty Senate bill thirty three twenty five senate one forty two one forty three and one forty eight those are the ones that people have told me. Motion to withdraw those bills from consideration. I needed in both at the same time. Thank you. Motion to withdraw those bills for further consideration all those in favor signify by saying aye by any of. Seven years came in you're recognized thank you members motion to place these bills into interim study referred these bills interim study Senate bill three ninety four for seventy four four forty three five sixteen five seventy nine five eighteen five fifty one nineteen one thirty seven for twelve. Five eighty six five eighty eight four forty five and four ninety nine. All those in favor of the motion please signify by saying aye by any oppose ayes have it motion carries. Senator Dismang you're recognized. Members if you look at your green sheet we're going to pass all of the House Bills and when a circle back to eighteen thirty three with the exception of eighteen thirty three which is revenue stabilization sort read those off the doctor one out for a separate vote let me know House Bill fourteen eighty eight house bill fifteen oh five house bill ten of thirteen ninety six eleven seventeen eleven nineteen eleven thirty three. Eleven sixty eight. Eleven seventy six twelve thirty one for fourteen sixty six. Seeing none. We will now take at the back of the Budget bills from the house house bill fourteen eighty eight thanks for the Arkansas cyber response board appropriation for the twenty twenty three twenty twenty for fiscal year houseful fifteen oh five an act for the department of commerce Arkansas Economic Development Commission Arkansas economic development initiative appropriation for the twenty twenty three twenty twenty fourth fiscal year household ten ninety six that Act for the department of finance ministration disbursing officer preparation for the twenty twenty three twenty twenty so office house bill eleven seventeen for the Department of Human Services Medicaid tobacco settlement program appropriations for the twenty twenty three twenty twenty four fiscal year also eleven nineteen and after the Department of Human Services division of county operations appropriation for the twenty twenty three twenty twenty fourth fiscal year house bill eleven thirty three an act for the secretary of state appropriation for the twenty twenty three twenty twenty for fiscal year hassle six eleven sixty eight and I for the department of labor licensing boards and commissions preparation for the twenty twenty three twenty twenty for fiscal year also Levin seventy six that Act for the department of corrections division of corrections appropriation for the twenty twenty three twenty twenty for fiscal year. House Bill twelve thirty one an active department public safety preparation for the twenty twenty three twenty twenty fourth fiscal year house bill fourteen sixty six an act for the Arkansas state claims commission of preparation for the twenty twenty three twenty twenty twenty to twenty twenty three fiscal year. No questions on the batch anyone who wish to speak against or for senator has closed any objection to rolling the vote. Madam secretary please roll the vote. Boyd Brian Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Davis these dismaying Johnson English Flippo flowers Gilmore Hammer Hester Hickey Hill Irvin Blake Johnson Mark Johnson King Leding Love McKee Murdock Payton Penzo Petty rice done Stubblefield Sullivan Tucker Wallace any senator which changes are her vote Senator king not voting any other senators. C. nine please casts up the ballot votes at thirty two the A. zero nine eight and one not voting. Batch House bills pass and their emergency clauses are adopted. House Bill eighteen thirty three. House Bill eighteen thirty three. By Senator a wrecker representative gene Senator Dismang term in the revenue stabilization law and declare an emergency Senator Dismang you're recognized the house version of RSA we have to take any questions any questions for Senator Dismang saying nine anyone wish to speak against or for. Senator Teague you're recognized to speak against. So I don't know who's the. Thank you governor so I've always said that are I say is the most important bill we do but sometimes I don't feel like we get the proper debate and know the impact of what we're doing I want to go back a little bit from the one point I was raised for my grandparents to my dad yeah they taught me in my brother about when we take on money and spend money and plan the biggest question that you have to answer is how are you going to pay for it so in two thousand seven when I came down here and I was elected one of the most welcoming comments and and what taught me about the budget in one of the best people was a Speaker named any patrons and B. petrous was a business guy he was also a Democrat but that was a different time the in and out that bit any pitchers would probably still be the same today but that was a question they would always ask you use every time you take on something he is how are you going to pay for it and at that time our budget was going over four billion dollars and there was almost a billion dollar surplus now a billion dollar surplus the and I'd much rather have that than what we have today but if you look at the progression of things and when I've spoken up against different things for and stepped out it's trying to be looking forward and make the right assessment for the time in two thousand eight for example we governor B. B. wanted to expand that the natural gas tax on severance which I think I think I may be the only one down here at that time but you know natural gas was very high at the time you governor Beebe went down there and said we're going to base these estimates on paying for these highways on conservative estimates of natural eight dollar natural gas. Natural gas is went down and never been above the fact I think of the last four five years it's probably average around three or four dollars not much much less than what governor B. B. a promise thank my quote in the newspaper is a freshman Republican was discounts governor Beebe and say you know what I'm glad governor Beebe is not my stockbroking predicted process so that's what you know is speak up and say and you know because you have to look future down the road I'm a farmer sadly today in our budgets today we look at the next political post card that we can put out the next election and not look for five years down the road so if you go to fast forward to two thousand nine when RSA came up. We had had a billion dollar surplus on a four billion dollar budget. Much more of a higher percentage than we do today with these other funds which I sometimes wonder about that there really a true surplus because they're just basically build upon the federal government company in a bunch of money the economy not the old days may well Linda was down here during that time when you budgeted money didn't come in and then you had to actually make it up for make cuts or do something else and make tough decisions. So if you look at two thousand nine I did not vote on RSA at that time our economic climate was very detrimental and I see many parallels today in that are key Konami climate back then was all the states we're going into recession Arkansas wouldn't quite there yet in years past we were typically a lag states so that wasn't something a natural for us to be going through at that time but what happened in two thousand nine the recession started hitting Arkansas the housing bubble busted any two thousand ten we go into a fiscal session in me and four other Republican legislators stood up and said that we are spending way too much we're projecting spending way too much at this point time and four of us voted against me and not for others voted against our essay that time and was widely criticized because we were just trying to be obstructionist we were trying to be troublemakers we're trying to be that one really idealistic Lee we just believe that we were spending too much in our target spending was going way out online what that time the recession did hit in two thousand ten we only found out later that governor Beebe was using federal funds to cover state things and we had a forestry scandal when the money ran out. We also found out the governor Beebe in two thousand nine had passed a tobacco tax that was supposed to be used for trauma centers and he did not do use that he used it to cover his own budget Linda's. It is very and and so what I'm saying is that when we look at the future so we have to be cautious if you go to two thousand thirteen when we expanded Medicaid some of us said at the time if we expand Medicaid it's going to hurt other budgets the time the talking point at that time on expanding Medicaid was it was actually going to save other budget we want to save money by expanding Medicaid and we did not expanding Medicaid actually impacted the other budgets because in our I say it's like a balloon to be expanded one place it's got a contract other places it's just that simple we went through task forces that didn't get estimates right and missed estimates we had spent millions of dollars on consultants that could not get estimates rights we can discontinue to expand money and grow government you know we talked about the federal deficits and the debt consider stuff bill talked about how bad it was when I first came in the Medicaid budget was going over three billion dollars now it's almost ten billion dollars most of which is federal money so every time we talk about what's the city or Joe Biden or somebody's brand in the debt we have to first look at ourselves like I said Senator Stubblefield said earlier more government equals less freedom this section is not been anything but more government more spending more programs more everything you cannot spend more money and have less freedom accordance Senator Stubblefield and I would agree with that. If we look at two thousand seventeen would deal with criminal justice and I keep on and say the same things about looking forward instead of looking at the next political postcard and how the RSA and everything affects the future budgets and spending money when we expended we expanded Medicaid we spent forty four point four percent of our dollars on education that actually did the last two years even down below forty percent and thirty nine percent I have those figures that I got from the bureau that I will share with anybody if you look at some of the rough figures of when we expanded Medicaid in one area as I said when you expand part of the balloon in other areas it impacts the others that amounts to if we to cap the same level of spending with Medicaid that previously had been done it in fact about two hundred million dollars these are not my figures this is a pure let's say research that I asked them to get the figures based on what I ask two hundred million dollars would build prisons back then we spent eight percent of every tax dollar when I first came in years ago on corrections this last budget this last time and this time is still still around eight percent we have not increased RSA to address prisons and corrections now because we didn't address the two thousand seventeen now we're having to spend hundreds of millions of dollars more because it's much more expensive now to build a prison that it would be back in two thousand seventeen in two thousand seventeen I try to dress a prison crisis by putting for if you went to corrections for time to serve eighty percent of your sentence it came with a big prospect so when the question probably got ask is how you're going to pay for it I gave several options at that time we if Amazon had been starting to voluntarily give that internet tax and I said we should capture that money and put it towards law enforcement back on law enforcement up we should bid build prisons at that time and it all got rejected in the end because people would not vote down RSA. So we get into the thing of looking at future years right now I see a lot of clouds out there we have inflation we have supply side crosses we have a housing market that is definitely cooling may wound up even busting we even have notable economists saying there's going to be a mild recession whatever that is so looking at year three and four when we set up our spending levels and we continue to go up when we hit those levels if we do which I hope they don't I hope that it literally our economy gets better and we don't have to do that but the reality is looking at everything today is Senator Stubblefield said is our farm spending more the questions now we're taking these costs the impacts of me and my brother we're spending actually less because we know in three or four years things we are planning on getting tougher arconic cannot continue this we cannot continue to spending levels and depend on Washington DC the second largest contributors to the national debt behind the president Congress is to governors and state legislators so when we go down here and criticize the national debt and we want to criticize Joe Biden as Republicans and do this the reality is we have to look at ourselves I'll go back to the same point when I came back in the Medicaid budget which just going over three billion dollars now it's almost ten billion dollars of which mostly is federal money and I can remember people at the time say in our Medicaid budget just went over three billion dollars I don't know how much more we can sustain of that if you look at the point of two thousand nine when governor Beebe fail to address what was going to go on the economy and had illegally used funds federal funds to cover state budgets as I mentioned before St. The reality is that when he didn't look at that. We're actually spending more and more and more we're laying in in price increases with learns that is in baseline spending that in three years what's kicking in in three years the criminal justice package that was just passed. When I asked about a plan B. R. essay is not a plan B. R. as agents being shooters forces you to spend less if you look at the estimate ten dollars coming in and only eight comes in RSA's figures out how do you spend eight dollars the reality is I think that we're we have failed is not looking at situations but dedicated tax streams to pay for these ongoing things or as that Senator Davis in Arkansas learns if you can increase right now at this time you're going to create spending a hundred fifty million here you need to decrease in a hundred fifty million somewhere else. My point is about RSA is to just make my statement because I'm gonna wind up vote no any good news about video is that I guess I can get my message out and explain it and and just do that and that's colleagues that's my point coming down here we should get back to the point that figured out how you gonna play port this idea new money coming in and this time in this economy with everything that's happening today and that's not including. All the Chinese balloons our world today is much more dangerous and the other thing is to those more dangerous if we have an economic downturn to dealing with the is we didn't have to reenter fifty thousand more people on Arkansas government dependency right now so we have more dangerous things right now to deal with and I will say this I hope I'm wrong I hope but you know I'm just doing the same thing I said in the campaign and doing the same thing in our own lives and I just think that we need to be more cautious in spending money right now. Senator Hickey. Yep superioris say developed by Senator Dismang center have Hester in the House leadership I'd ask for immediate consideration. Motion for immediate consideration all those in favor please signify by saying aye. Any oppose ayes have it. Thank you secretary please call the roll Boeing. Brian. Caldwell. Chesterfield. Clark. Clark. Kroll. Davis these. This is mine. DISMANG Dodson. English. Flippo. Flowers Gilmore. Hammer. Hester Hickey Hill Irvine. Blake Blake Johnson. Mark Johnson. King. Leding. Live. Mickey. Murdock. Page. Penzo. Yeah. Petty. Rice. The staff. Stubblefield. Sullivan. Tucker. Wallace. Any center did not vote who wishes to vote. Four injured at. Senator Clark president. Any other centers saying nine please cast a ballot by voting thirty one eighty eight one nine H. B.. Eighteen of thirty three passes emergency clause adopted return to the House. Senator Solomon you're recognized members of a committee motion to move Senate bill seventy one from the house back to the Senate and put an interim study. All those in favor of the motion please signify by saying aye. Any of us have a motion carries madam secretary there items at the desk. Senate resolution six by Senator Blake Johnson to recognize delta companies think and it's one hundred years of service Senate resolution sixty two calendar. This passage of Senate bill three fifty five by the House. The role as a passenger Senate bill five O. four by the House enrolling the passage of Senate bill five sixty seven by the House. Anything else Senator Hester you're recognized Hey members if you don't just give me attention for just a quick second I know that we uh are about to miss the thing out but there's I don't there's anything more important right now that if our staff would all stand up thank you for the long nights I know when we leave late you leave three hours later if you don't please stand we wanna give year round of applause thank. He has. Yes. That truck mark cuts is outside he's been here he's not sitting here on the front line but he's been here late nights every now with this let's give him a quick round of applause. And members with that subject to house concurrent resolution one zero zero seven I move we recess until may first signee die subject to clearing the desk. Motion to recess. May first. Four seventy nine. All those in favor. Please signify by saying aye hi. Any of.