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Without objection we're going to start with house resolution ten thirteen representative latin good morning welcome to rules you're welcome to Please to be here to have the opportunity to represent the bill would. Become effective july the first the resolution s we be prevented to introduce it to the fiscal session because while in way deals with the budgetary stuff funded the it's a funded bill but his handle separately from the recommendation that were miking. So a warning run through the plan is it's currently drafted and we working there as that we have got to take it through the senate committee and then the end of the house committee which everyone it may be a sure but first of all it provides a wonder more because it just went reincrease for state employees now to exceed three percent of their base service and these adjustments are separate from the merit increases in that in low number two is a just pay grades gs o one through gs o firm and moving all employees all employees from great warrant to three and four to fire and it with the starling salary of thirty two thousand four hundred and five a year. Thoroughly it increases the maximum of salary of all current growth about ten percent the length does not mean that they were employees at ten percent rise the the top maximum salary will be increased but ten percent this change does not prevalent ten percent increase per employee it'll only changes the maximum salary of each grade. Number four changes the rules related to assurance duty pay for employees like at the department of correction the change will allow correctional temporarily a sand maximum security units uh to receive how to do study pay while working in those units are facilities. Firstly and this one. Is. To say the least controversial and and and the law the membership has concerned with it and we're willing to have the application to discuss it but let me run through the way it's currently it's create a special compensation awards for employees recognizing outstanding performance and completing significant projects java sandman or for taking additional dollies now. These are always subjective selections and issues and this is always inherent and we're searching for the best way in order to get it down to the point to wear it really working those employees who perform a special tears the special sam special project special job and remove the personality aspects of it have been in the state state government both from the standpoint of a administrative supervision and as a state trooper and in a no it works a little functions and representative toss is been with the state police like was like me he was capped and how many sergeant hook but anyway both it supervisors roles and then served is director of the department of commerce and the department of final answer administration. Is there for gold to remove personalities and you have to you have to work as drama is best you can to be totally important and how these process works so just let me share with the hell now the plan is constructive and agency must provide a plan. For these terms of awards prior to providing them to employees and the plans must be approved by the legislative council or joe budget it's a general same lead is not insistent. But before we go through that each one of them has to provide a plan of they will implement this and then they are playing has to go is I outlined it to the to the series of the legislative council or joint budget or to the just let you if we happen to be insertion the plan may include a bonus payment of up to five thousand dollars or an agency may provide additional lists and it learning to existing employees of uh to forty hours. That the agency will determine which type of war that they will provide employees can not receive more than two of these special carpers social awards and a buying in the um so it caps at all for but now the office of portion management will approve the end of virgin. And provide the monthly report to the legislative council that details the awards that have been provided under the east planet agencies must find the funding for these rewards within their existing funding and fell of access the performance for them to provide payments awarded though these plans so that's the way it structured but I think it's important in factor as it relates to maybe some of the agencies is the back that they can opt out of it if we want to they all have to michael. So those that feel or may feel that they are will be hampered or the creative problem or problem or if situation in their agency then they can tell. Now this next port is something that I feel like that we need for a long time and state government between the way the employee marketplace is today it create to recruiting and center system for agencies to all for monetary and leave incentives to perspective employees like the special compensation or an agency must provide a plan for these incentives prior to providing the hill to new employees and the plan must be approved by the letter sleep council and the job budget and I want I won't hear again I won't point out to you that ever step change ever step in sending every step special compensation has to be reported either too also as all of the plan has to be approved by the legislature. Current executive branch employees are all eligible to receive recruiting and sending employees who receive a recruitment and send it bonus but do not for feel the requirement period of employment shall repay the bonuses payments to the state agency so if an agency awards two thousand and fifteen hundred two thousand dollars in sydney bonus to come and take the job and they don't complete the time that say now in the plan then they'll have to refund and have pay that money back. The office of course now management for above a month or report to ALC the details of the awards that have been provided under these plans. And the agencies the agencies was buyer and the firming for these incentives within their existing and shall not access the performance firm to prefer incentives the department of transportation are drive transformation i'm sorry the boring transformation is services most submitted any amendments or reversion to the special compensation plans to recruit and send these per lands and merit increase they system to the legislative council or draw budget if insist for approval so I ever step of it we have approval we have so so in while happens in wall occurs in what takes plugs now this would the bill will consider still and that's what the resolution is asking that you permanently have to be able to introduce it in the special session because our folks. Who handling state government and servicing the people of arkansas need a pay increase. In order to be competitive in today's market place we need to have a compensation structural compensation for exposure works personal projects outstanding performance and need to be able to have a senior plan because we have some very very hard to jobs in the state government today that we have to have funded in uh dependent was just as put it to his way and more ways and wanted to differ in the marketplace and in many others that are may happen with a time to answer any questions you might have. Thank you for your presentation representatives of jean your recognized for a question thank you madame chair represent wooden i've got a couple of questions i'm start off with the ten percent increase on people that have already maxed out we have what twenty six twenty seven thousand employees excluding university colleges how many how many employees are are bumped up against the maximum right now do you have that number may. There the way suggested with ten percent that everything I believe it is will not cover some sixty hundred employees that will be out so there are now had to verify that but in the wall still be under what will be outside what the maximum is that what you were asking what i've just wondered how many employees. Or up against the maximum we're going right now is I think the available fifteen sixteen hundred of the twenty six twenty seven years okay mother question yes the three percent what is the total coffee to this fourteen million dollars fourteen million is this going to come out of the performance fine or is this going to come out of a gr check it as well thank you gr because we do we have some like we have seventy three million dollars in the. Part of it couldn't I think we have much seventy three million dollars format five and that was four raises I just I would just I thank you appreciate a medicare thank you if you had. When the greater just but one thing that they don't call some additional five million were told about nineteen million altogether that you made him chair judge working thank you for your thorough presentation of this bill and you know you and i've had some discussions concerning my sons and the concerns of other legislators not that be safe to save from a conversation you even your concerns about the about the special compensation the part thousand dollar bonus to stayed employees and our a an additional week of vacation and you alluded to that that you know I think the problem lies in the fact that someone like yourself a must say for a few others in here that have had the responsibility and authority to be able to do performance evaluations to our lives we understand that a lot of though a lot of times those are subjective and they're based on personalities and while I want to make sure it doesn't occur with the past is this bill let me emphasize that I agree that the state employees deserve a raise last support there but I just want to make sure that we're not creating something here with this five thousand dollars boundaries in or a week of vacation or we've got supervisors that are able to pick winners and lose and that concerns me that we've got a state employee on one side of the state and I believe the language in the bill says performs an additional tares and they do something that in the eyes of that supervisor they performed additional additional test so they submit the recommendation and go through everything that you just say at the that process in its and often they receive the five thousand dollars mountains. And another state employee on the other side states it's performed the same identical tears their food supervisor does it say it that way so they don't submit them that were i'll assure you and state government will travel from one side of this state to the other pretty fast and what I don't want to see happen happening is that we create a moral issue I would create or we have resemblance from one state employed to the other our hard failings and I have concerns that that language in this bill could do they add and so madame chair i'm getting to my question and I apologize but I think I need a delay some groundwork before I got to it but so in abradio and i've heard people try to explain it to me and you did a great job of going through the steps it would take for that approval to me to be granted but it's still easier personnel teacher still in bob it still subjective and a largest thing that somehow when we're going to hand out bonuses that needs to be. That needs to be removed somehow we need language that says it's a standard of whatever not based on personalities not based on something subjective and I don't know what their ears but I guess my question would be to you representative no my concerns and I guess even some of yours and other legislators would you be willing if we pass this out of here today I know it's a resolution in force to move it forward we have to pay as to that as he is an understand there and if we're willing to do that would you be well into a to set down a list look at what we could do to clean that language up so that we could do what whatever needs to be done to make sure that their state employees get to raise but it's the same time make sure that we're not creating a morale issue who with that type of language in a bill would you be willing to do that yes we will be willing to go over to look at the buying which in strive is best we can to meet the concerns that you have and that earn reality that I and I know of the others have the same concern about it her main remain test today is to please satisfy all something that we need to take up from the resolution standpoint need be permitted to interest everything or do but years we will look at it and drive. I think I can speak for the entire groups it worked on this and put it together but I think the majority of no more understand that we need to be is tie and cohesive yeah approach to selling this error and yes we do we would strive to do it in such a way to amend the language it would be placing to your but I appreciate that madam chair and if you're willing to do that and i'm willing to move forward with it as long as I know that between now and the time it gets to committee that we're willing to work to make sure that we're not creating a problem for some of our state agencies across the state by the language that we currently have in the bill so i'm willing to do that and I appreciate your world in this is that as well thank you trying to do that representative of your recognized thank you madame chair mr written or actually wouldn't appreciate you i'm over here appreciate your and i'm like everybody else I believe that our employees need to raise I have several questions if i'm allowed just a little bit leeway thank you madam chair one is how can we cannot put this three percent raise in the budget without the need for this bill couldn't understand how come we cannot put the three percent raise in the budget without the need for this bill. The. Well even we we set aside at the forty million. Last session four the to have a play player and then the it was just like both the exactly branch of that too not to ask for the three percent raising the budget is that correct do to not ask for the three percent raising the budget is that correct. I have the same concerns about the ten percent representative jean has raised so i'll skip that looking over uh I have the same concerns that representative tosh has on the incident for the bonus i'm not quite sure that i'm satisfied with the answer to that this nineteen million that was referenced earlier in your response to representative jean does that take into account any of these insidi pays that are so loosely drafted at this point in time this five thousand dollars per person if they get it or the week you know a week's vacation which sounds like maybe that start money but that's money so has any of that been included into the nineteen million that being considered. Yes I think you know the three percent part out of it increased that they realize it's covered in the fourteen million cane answer and say that it's it's unknown exactly one the other cars may be so it could be anywhere from a million to a hundred million we just don't know I guess it could be a possibility then with you look over on page six I have a question on line twenty five when it talks about when the office is completed it's reviewed the written plan under subdivision c two of the section the office show refer the written plan to the legislative council if we're not insertion for their approval or if they're general assembly as in session then it appears from the language it's being written that all the joint budget committee has to approve and so that the legislature really doesn't have to approve what the joint budget says that's what the language says is that you're intent that the legislature doesn't have to approve I think i've. Test my questions thank you I know representative jean has asked to add something while we have to also have this bill is we've we've increasing the maximum about ten percent we have to do that through statue that could be but but but but and also a much your maybe the special language that we have and here about the one time bonuses the special special conversation gifts that the employees do of object I hope it's not happened to come over and tickle your back or so so but that's the language that is foreign to me and that may be another reason why we have to have this in in well let me say make this statement the well the resolution is what we're concerned with today that is not the content of the mail there will be handled in committees objections to certain parts of language then we can we can dress that out in the in in the committee may correct but I think the raise on its own to your answer would not have to we would not have ever resolution okay thank you thank you chairman that's what I understood was that the three percent could be in the budget the ten percent might be different the only other question that I would have and if it does get out that I would ask whatever committee that this goes to that there's a physical impact statement because I think we're dealing with numbers that we don't know thank you thank you representative cabinet you're recognized thank you over here just want to make sure on the special compensation a board cause make sure I understand they can get one of those words once a year they can't get multiple awards in one one year one one each year in the b. Okay as that calendar year or is it. Physical year that would be all that they would be held this aren't thank you and I do have a question so or have we talked to all state agencies I know you said they're going to have to find this money internally have we talked to all state agencies and are they prepared for this type of increase through their budgets you know to say that our have we have not now. And the honest wood here about like that was the governors responsibility since there any of the branch and they are the ones who are trying to pull this all together through the office of op so i'm sure that they have counter with the agencies and i'm assuming from walla power that event counselor consultation whether the company is doing the review of state government so but but we are have not told directly to all the agencies and i'm for a pay raise I think it's been needed for a while and I will use dhs as my example they have six thousand employees so that's a chunk of change that they've got to come up with internally if we're not trying to do it through you know gr so just that man only concern. Seeing no other questions there is no wine as signed up to speak four against the bill would you like to close for your resolution sorry not bill resolution well I think I think I think where we are information. From the standpoint of state government the employees need to rise now the essence of the matter is how do you provide their two there anything that we do is really subject. But they were going to make the effort we can't sit back in way we've waited to long the market place is gotten tighter entire in the hour and and we're having a tremendous turnover in the state agencies and the department of corrections were farting a bell in the state believes for recruitment stay important so we've got to do something to to have an outrage to be able to retain and recruit what we've got the same problem today and the in the education as we have and the the corrections and study police in any agency that has people and they all I have people so I would origin if you would let us have the opportunity to introduce this bill in adoses a pay compensation into that it flows the community structure then we can we can we will have an opportunity to address the issues thank you for reading representative ubank's recognized and the motion madam chair. What your motion motion do pairs we have emotion do pass all in fibres they are opposed no. Congratulations your resolution thank you. Next up is house resolute we're going to skip over a house for resolution ten thousand and twelve next is house resolution ten thousand and fourteen. The. Yeah. The. Yeah. It's trying to let him get everything handed out for your before you begin. Better chair which ones you say. Yeah. Representative miller please state your name for the record and you might begin a. Yes I thank you madame chairman joseph miller district forty one and with the center king who is going to do the balk of the speaking concisely on these. Your recognized thank you madame chair and I will remind everybody here I mean former house member of served six terms and up when I was around a bunch of senators one time I made the comment I said I think i'm a house member in the senate and they are right after so were a certainly tell them all the time that I wish we had buttons over there there's a lot of house things that I can tell you are far for over there that should be done over there and or not let me disclose that run after that members I want to try and talk briefly about these probably the repeal bill that i'm going to get it would be more independence come in this one very briefly just follows we know china as the uh about serial relationship that were having all the dangers that were having I think roughly not voted for these in these past the house in the senate it is just follows the directions like the drone bill we know about the concern about chinese sweepings through a wall street journal article in new york times both different perspectives they have given basically that these cryptomats at most the equipment is made in china we found out after the hairs and situation when you start researching is that practly all the jobs created you know these crypto mounts do not create jobs the one in harrison was going to create two or three jobs as it these really are job creators in china. So this just basically follows like the drone bill and I understand you know this is a resolution on going into direction details can be worked out later it just follows what is passed the house at senate concerns about china most of this crypto machines all that stuff software everything home everything all comes from china so they just false it thank you well do all of our questions from the audience after we present all up on but is there any questions from the committee on this particular resolution. Okay so without objection will move down to house resolution ten eighteen. Are you ready representative yes you're world manager center can are you prepared you can go just your recognized thank you madame chair thank you minors committee ten eighteen the original bill that went through that we didn't have the scrutiny on it we should we were not I don't believe told everything that we should have been on the front in about that bill one part in there that to me is potentially very disturbing is the part that exempted the crypto manners from the universal money services act as a transmitter the universal service money act and he should have maybe a brief description or I would get there this is what this is this is a brief description of the universal money services act and basically what it follows is like money orders that thing that you're doing that that allows. You know it to be tracked basically anti money money laundering laws know your customer laws those kind of things so for some reason this bill was a drafted and put its been in the newspapers that even the arkansas block chain person mr mister hartford said newspapers this is a toashy bill the satoshi group is a fab on one three c four action group setoshi action group they were the ones that are behind its come out the news media is not something alleged in it's something it's been admitted to this toashy group is a dark money group we do not know their funds in this. So i've felt like we should burst off know the disclosure of their funders in this thing that caused all this met so i've asked for that and we've not got it but you can look at that we know if you look at some of these other articles crypto currency I did not know much about crypto currency before all the started in here back last year actually in april so you know now i've learned a lot more and talking to people in the in the industry pro that cause i've been out there there's procripto disorder says that talk to me and there's other ones so you learn more about crypto currency you can look at hamas use crypto currency you can see that quite frankly they're not transportant definitely bags full of cash across it it's all in crypto currency now. So while the city should want into exempt herself in the universal money service is act you can look at the articles there's articles in wall street journal different organizations from different angles political angle said it produce so we're going to have to have this debate eventually about crypto currency you can look at this this is what came before the aging and children where the securities people you can see a portion in that the dissausable growing with elderly people and this is critical currency I think it's not out of bound states more with younger people but the amount of fraud and crypto currency. In elderly people and that's what we know of there's a lot of things it's. People there's a term called uh pixelar and I know rips in a bought will know what what she thinks big slaughter is and what I think is what picks laughter he is is basically these crypto counts are pumped up once they do it there's app top to national security person and they said it's crypto currency trying to track it it goes to a certain point next thing in south country. It's not like a forge check it's not like the old days of everything so we know that we're going to have to go this point because crypto currency is going to be around there's going to be a debate none of my bills are intention is to ban crypto mans there's nothing in there okay that's that's not it that's been said that that's not my direction in this whole thing so i'm just showing you what happened in the original bill and that's one red flag that I think i'll look that we need to discuss is uniform money services act you know why is why do we have one set of standards for one set of people and in the other. National reporter that deals in in investigations into that will found out more later when my community gets to it will tell you that the crypto currency you see bit coin a theory on some of these others you're going to see a different time of cryptocurrency because the silk road which was used for crypto currency and big point earlier that people thought they didn't know who they were where they found out they can't know where they were. They will tell you the reporters it's investigators the security people will tell you the frosters in the crooks and all that are always one step ahead of us and right now the regulations are not following so that's just basically a discussion II found it that you know the uniform money services act I feel like we need to start over on that part. And so I don't know why that language is in there but I feel like with all things we need have discussion. Are there any questions. Seeing no questions without objection will move to house resolution ten fifteen. Presented miller. The. You know there's been wealthy represent millers talking objects set there too so I mean I if anybody's known as that we're not the water's level and right okay like keep recognizing him because it is his name here just so everybody know. I can't find fifty I can talk to but I figured it. For some reason i'm not fun and ten fifteen unless it's you thank you. It's not the first time miss matthews has had to correct us either state their satisfaction written. Okay this is a men in the bill this is I think the repeal bill let me go through a little bit so best back less april the city of hairson was meeting with the group that has possible chinese connections to come in their pro industry they you know we're all pro economic developments so that started the process in then once that started the bono facility the one that's making all the noise of one is kind of the flag out there that showing everything started popping up in people start looking then you started looking into the passport ownership their ownership problems with the company what are you doing so it became an issue more of an issue because I thought it was in the county. Where and then it found out the part of the language in the city so the the the decision making went from the corn court to the city council. The city council ultimately wound up making a decision that the company pulled out and they're not doing any more and that's a big difference here when we're talking about repeal okay that's why I feel like in the debate process as I said I go down to senate not tell them the house things I feel like the senate did the right thing and I hope there's a party we allow all these because you have the procrit to people sign and I feel like that members need a competing side out there to understand this issue that's that's all my drive okay I have been a meanable to meet I met with bill vicary bacteria in this summer had a meeting up in harrison I think reps in duffield attended we were fair to both sides trying to get the information out i've sent my draft bills out before this and been willing and mealing to meet with them and try to work out anything so but back to the hairs and situation once that was done and then we found out about this building. And many much like many of you it's like what happened what was this it's a snake you're not going no bad unless it's nice bit you and then you find out the snake you found out everything a lot more because the process that we have in many of a said jobs so we went through that process this is the repeal bill it does add water language I want to talk about that a little bit in the northwest arkansas situation. So in northwest arkansas in cure on boom. And bitten county and madison county we get our water from be relate now all the growth in bitten county they're talking about I think what representative cleaned it like a million people when twenty thirty or something like that so you go up in the growth and you go up in the industry you go up in water uses i'm in the poetry industry which requires a lot of water I mean the average chicken house supplies enough chicken four thirty five thousand people understand is script on mine which would use more water than our farm only ploys two or three people as it. So that's very important while we need a debate on the resolutions and have a whole debate on this rather than just letting the procripto side have their lane to go in so in the water usage and be related we've had two situations where the water table get low so in looking at the future issues of everything if care on boom keeps getting the water over here then what's that do what's the next thing besides recreation impoding and everything i'll be relayed water generate electricity generation beer day congress and talk to one of the retired members that people like water district and said yeah we're going to have to look at all industry everything. And look at that because of what allocation be related if we take more water a different times of stress to the industry and citizens. Then we're going to take less from generation so we're looking at ceilings out there in water we're looking at ceilings and electricity so basically this would repeal and get back things the way they are feel like reset everything they should do it does add some language for water usage and discussion about that too. It sport ownership part two that is mirs the language locked before. Representative more your recognition thank you madame chair that your representative and senator bring this very important topic and keeping it a discussion piece in the news. Just I had a question regarding the water usage it says regarding a public utility did you consider putting language in there that would take into consideration groundwater depletion in case they were drilling a well instead of using the public utility system thanks so that's in another one of my bills i'm doing but i'm certainly this is a direction in those details that's what it's so important that we litigate out because those things can be done like this part of awkward for down there we have water we still have wills up there that that may not be on the rule water city water situation that's why we need the discussion on all bills and have fair competition out here to hear everything because that's an issue with farmers down there in the sport we had to be were way for we still have water issues like you're talking about because they're still facilities pop up there is a small processing plant when to go out and rule you with no real water that is you came up that's why we need fair competition out here in allow everybody to have fair discussion on this from all angles and be informed to make every decision so that's a good point. Representative definitely recognized thank you madame chair senator king could do clarified on cbs news this past weekend they reported that at eight fifty one which my understanding is this would repeal that act eight fifty one was originally drafted by the satosi group and not only was drafted to be presented in the state of arkansas but it was presented in other states as well could you kind of elaborate on what other states how many states and maybe what you know about this a toashy group. Yeah I don't think I know the soak tocia group is a pro crypto mounting action group they are they don't have to release her funds in listen there's a lot of five oh one three c fours out there whatever there b r five or nines or whatever they are. The older people got that the roads out I know thoughts got it better mister barnes got it so you know it's somebody part of questions like would you want all these to do that i'm like no only ones that cause a problem that we didn't know yeah i've been I do think this in the ballie view master gardeners nonprofit okay and i'm not in legend they're doing anything to fare like the original bill in the money service i'm not legend they're doing anything like this i'm just saying we need to have a discussion about the the universal money services fund track and crypto currency news in i'm not alleged in there to do anything like that okay so you're right and I think they gave testimony that their plans to have at least fifty crypto months come in here in arkansas because we have cheap hour. And we have water if they need it in certain situations and we know those are limited resources and that's why the repeal bill allowance cities and counties when we todd cities and countings what happened is you have citizens in bono that haven't chilly suffers trying to fight a billion dollar company. The tire in the top most expensive law firms here in the state that's what happened with that built that's why repeal for discussion. Is so critical I mean the procrit ups the people have their side and i'm four I voted for sinner bright and people count me so how can you do that I can do that said you know what i'm poor fair discussion and letting people have an informed decision in making a fair decision based on everything. So that's why I bought it for hears even though I knew he was probably going to vote for my against man you know what i'm for the fair discussion so I think it's very clear to have more discussion because they said that yeah there's bitty these planets so these things will eventually happen let me explain something else to that we don't know where there is so much that we don't we don't know what we don't know as we found out last time so you could have these things could possibly there's people they have told me that I think it being watching this industry said these things can more find anything else. May neck a more find a dad information collection centers that are for example if you look at are which we know they ask him in. Yeah it could more find to that so all the law as you make on crypto stuff it was like this last time they knew what they were doing they knew everything and had everything in place to do and said everything up they knew that any community that try to do anything when you put laws and there that do not discriminate all that you know they the rose law firm and the people who did do everything and so when they did that's why everything is filed as went to federal court small towns and communities don't have the resources to fight uh billion dollar companies in federal court it take longer we have laws that we passed last year that if not in winter federal court they know the game and how it can be done that's why I can see that come back to this i'm just for a fair discussion it allow everybody have a debate on this issue where it don't cost us where we don't have to come back to special sessions in spin more money between it before next year. We should have been told so much more about this stuff we should have been informed about crypto currency we should have been formed about the foreign ownership on the frontier we should have been informed about so much more before making both representative default do you have a follow up if they ran chair sooner king also in that committee meeting it was my understanding that when they said that they had plans for fifty that that was one crypto might happen is that your understanding as well because that would in my view that would speak to the people that were looking at a minimum of fifty from one particular interest and not several others that may come into the state and i've heard it and then they said they wouldn't affiliate with some II really don't know but II mean I don't remember that what known video that was offsites who wouldn't be the arm for video recordings of offsite meetings too even though most ever as you know are just generalities and formalities and feel good things i'm for video and all that because it was your resource to go back and see without I mean up so my its farms and stuff i've been able to see even bills percentage by other members and watch the video of it and be able to take a time and do that so I think that the once again we. Most people that are talked to have regrets about this bill and how we need to do a thorough process of government forward to understand everything about this bill and allow a fair and free competition on this bill. The. Representative ubank's are recognized senator king if we were to pass this resolution out in the bill was to pass both chambers. Would would that not allow us to go to the regular session in twenty five to address all these other issues that are included in some of these other resolutions that's a very important question yeah so basically we get back to to more local control where I feel like it should be. Because here's the thing as we know we only meet certain times and we have laws you know that go city councils and in corn courts as my brothers on the comport you know meet monthly so they say in this is a not conspiracy but it's like a real possibility there's a problem with china anything like that the security it's going to be a city council or corporate it's going to have the fast action to make decisions if you look at the drive of what i'm doing trying to do with all these bills is to have while cities and counties to live like they think they should understand the sponsor from bitten county the center sponsor there's no crypto minds in bitten I keep wondering why she put in crypto minds and bitten county if you want so much why they shipped on the rule areas because cheap power they're taking advantage of room you also see testimony in here from a new york mayor where they they allowed these things to come in thinking they were pro industry and then they found that later they were not. As I say these things are job greater one of the big important questions that needs to the resolution have the debate is there's a small town in my district that has an industrial zone that has limited power capacity in it they're actually recruiting trying to recruit a job's maker the reply seventy five fifty a hundred jobs they're going to be limited on power trying to get it to that so they're trying to work on that if you allow these crypto mounting in in have the language. And they have to be in there you're going to actually limit jobs if you allow crypto minds in this in carolina boom and we could do that you could potentially as I mentioned earlier the beer white lake water situation you could actually limit jobs in the growth in bitten county. This is all tired of the grid is at san in the streams we all live downstream well in this case we do and that's why we need a fair open honest debate because caroline boom could take search things that are see in the bill the other side that we could take advantage of we can make some money out of we could do but it's going to limit bitten county and their jobs. Because bit can he ask a power and water representative ubank's recognized for follow up so it backed my question if we were to pass as they would allow for that that time for the fair debate to take place in a regular session it would allow the fair debate that you can understand an informed decision to know everything not like the last time thank you senator thank you representative of your recognized I think that follow up my question thank you seeing no other questions without. The end of these resolutions say a few remarks and closing that sorry yes so I came we have a joke I come there some people call dark holiday i've not seen anything more but ok ten seventeen. Uh for some sake can I just remand you we still have several to go yeah and i'm trying to get through this group think i've heard this this would allow the water usage just an idea of avenue to have a discussion about the public service commission being able to make those decisions on the grid issues and look forward and say in on the water issues so anything using block change technology a bunch of computers requires power and water once again we just don't know what we don't know and that's what we need to have discussion that's all seventeen does this to start an avenue to have a discussion up that lock it was better counter to just take some of these things about at a time look and see so. Some of these can be more dangerous other bills possibly too we had a discussion in the background at seeing no questions will move on to without objection house resolution ten sixteen. Ok this bill ten sixteen is basically because of the power issues that we have to be looking in the future for the water issues have our recovered and the ownership we need to know are you who you say you are and are you doing what you say you can do and i'll get into a situation of like this article right here which is what is in yellow the shell companies all this stuff is such a gain that we don't know what's going on they could tell you who they are and they do it you're reading here you gain as a representative while the registered address address is in albany new york the head office is identified in los angeles california there's one of these offices people show that but there's no way there they don't answer the phone is a bind our country the guys go on around on a jet looking at his places we're going to have to have but continuous situation where we're constantly looking into these things to know the few things that we should know that frankly this business gets that we don't as a former business barber bank or whatever you have to know are you say or no you do much saying when do this article rotter should pop everybody's about how they're shifting everything around and they're doing everything and they're coming up with new names it's it's wacamo and it's a very serious issue that we're trying to deal with here and it's a move in target and if we make laws like last time that tire local hands that do this stuff don't do it. We're doing we need flexibility out there and have something this is in any industry if you look at the china situation that we're talking about if you look as I talked to that national reporter that you're going to hear from my committee at some point you're going to see that china is involved in in it in oklahoma you see a recent article where the the chinese are behind the legal part forms the bed burned people let me say okay. But that's just the way it is it we're gonna have to have a continue with look at everything because if you read this article about how they did this. How do you track it down do we have the resources simple people to new york and turn around since people los angeles to look into this stuff. They know what they're doing and you know we need to know this is no different in any other business out there that we have to do. Add don't see any questions so without objection will move the house resolution ten nineteen and then we'll let you speak representative miller once we do the questions. Okay. Thank you madam chair thank you committees to not team is the fee bill that's probably going to have the most discussion about it was one that was not going to pass the senate and moved up there and we passed it by twenty eight votes I think one member was not going to we have passed about twenty nine bills. The fee bill let me take that we just had april fifteenth that's our tax day. And you know what we require our console citizens laws to pay taxes fees and everything to do their business okay crypto minds have got something that we special more than they have I don't feel like that's fair built in freedom and talk about a fair and free market this is antophrey market when you shack a one business and burden them with stuff and in all sentence everybody else gets free rain. Okay that's not fair and free market milk freeman is spoke eloquently on that and a lot of different ways so basically the few is just starting a discussion about you know you're a new industry okay i'm not banning others nothing in the same about being but your new industry your cause and these problems they were dealing with today why should I pay my tax dollars. To have to check up on them in the first place that's not fair I mean if we want to lower it list all president reagan talked about he got attacked about lowering the tax rate ten percent he said that's fair to everybody let's be fair to every this be discussion that's all it is we work when you have over appropriation bills you're bothering for fees and everything else that regulation is rather a reality whatever else the poetry industry were regulated. Okay banking industry you know if we want to reduce regulations let's make it fair to everybody don't have a don't have a you have no rules and everything and inhabe all constant rules to the real hard work and americans out here that are making our system work that paid everything to fifteen to found our schools and do everything these people on the power usage let me explain in the hairs and situation it was going to use ten megawater power that's not to power six eight thousand homes. That's enough to power approach plan or process and plant like our cart over there they deploy thousands of people they employ two three jobs only jobs are creating in the original bill that they talked about doing is in china. It's a china jobs creating bill is what this is. Now we have to use names from china and everything like that but where we want to move the needle I want to move the need to less to china and more for the americans I want to move all these laws back to the citizens and allow them to have power and discussion strong reagan said best governments go close to people. That's what I started reporting is a long time ago instead of having a few people up here in legislature there's a lot of decisions come out here that I don't agree with that I get attacked room from conservative groups and they say why didn't you make that decision I said because you know what it's a local decision they're going to be the people on the front lines it's going to be able every drive that i've had and everything is to have them to make decisions but watch the other things to to make sure there's not a monitoring thing that we do things and carol boom in the profits us it hurts between county. All right seeing no questions representative mailer would you like to close for your resolutions would you like for me to close the hour and public now thank you no no no. The. Okay welcome banking like to close after thank you. Opera and more resolutions this time than I did the whole session so I don't know the reason I want to wait is till afterward through so that you can address any concerns it's brought it from the public thank you sir so next without objection we're going to go back at two house resolution ten o nine. And all three sponsors will be given a chance to close after the public comma. Comment representative mclear please recognize yourself and then you may begin. Thank you stay representative right with clear district twenty nine so. A little bit of history behind what has been said were bills were originated or not originated with one of the many hats that I wear being in a local small community you get to wear lots of hats I am the chairman of the outspring county economic development corporation. In twenty twenty two we had a guest come to our meeting that owned a facility in our city and a residential area. That group was called cryptic farms. Gentlemen very well educated very friendly very nice but he was inquiring as senator king referred to just while a go two new industrial parks. Well as most of us we were uneducated and went and saw the very things that everybody else has seen the common denominator to me and my stall of and was power usage. That was the common denominator. The. So we come into the twenty twenty three session in february I began drafting a bill. Then included most of my language to make sure that all crypto mine owners would follow laws a lot of assumptive languages yes the south chatosi group reached out they provided links to legislation and missouri mississippi and montana I have those house bill numbers if you need them. I chose the missury bill to copy some wording from. That was probably a mistake because that did include what was pitched as an anti discriminatory fraziology turned out to be limiting local control. The balance of that bill came. From arkasale public service commission and our electric utility providers. There's also been a lot certain about how I got rushed through at the end. I will agree it wasn't because we were trying to rush something through we got it through on our and it went to the senate then it was one and utility provider group that we had missed it was called the municipal providers association or association with a new supple providers which would include cities like john's borrow and and ben in those and I had an amendment well the mimic it's put on the city and has to come back to the house in the nature when we were out of time so that's where the rush came obviously there have been unintended consequences on other portions of the bill. There was a best. Under estimation of the number of crypto man owners who had already begun building before the bill was even heard or passed or had already purchased lan with building plans I take fifty one did not generate these they were already here they were already in the processes. So we've got problems and we need to fix it so in house resolution a thousand nine we have a list of things that will probably help most likely I think or fixed most issues. This will not be I will not go through the resolution line belong but I will go through these points and I will be very concerned because I know we're limited on time number one clarify a men and return local control to counties and cities. Number two. Noise reduction by requiring fully enclosed envelope on all sides on the top on sides on and underneath it need me or be two thousand feet from a nearest residential or commercial structure. In addition use a closed loop liquid and i'm going to use the word sealed. Or submerged cooling. That also brings up more questions about water usage however with local control going back look of control can regulate the amount of water usage based on walk on each rule water providers have much different capacity abilities than a minute support water provider that can be decided at the local level. It is the intent that the noisy aunt box van cooling will be prohibited. Number three prohibit for an ownership a citizen of entry count any country that is on the US international traffic and arms regulations list. Or listed as an unfriendly to the united states. The office of agriculture intelligence are arkansas office of agriculture intelligent reviews it ownership. If there's a need they can refer it to the attorney general office. Then if there is a need there can actually be judicial for closure. Number four. Emergency class without any grandfather clause provisions this will include any new facilities that are proposed or currently being built the time to comply for existing facilities. To these amendments would be ninety days. So I think we have touched on some of the issues that have already been mentioned I know you're going to hear another resolution that may have some copper has some complementary provisions and it also sold i'm a better for questions. Don't see any questions. Now I do representative dalbert you're recognized thank you thank you for bringing this at the question I have is just cause maybe i've misreading or something but on page three line thirty it says except as provided by a subsection of this section a local government show not but there's no subsection d so what are we are I would have to get back to you on that cause we have this has been gone through so many times where we'll have to get back to clarify that because you said it's not going to limit local control but that the language it's limiting local control we want to make sure that we get the local control so back to local sale if we have a problem the language will get that taken care of maybe follow up madam chair. May have a follow up also in that same page right up there line twenty a local government shall not pay out once again were limiting with local government can do which prohibits an individual for engaging in home digital asset mining well if I have a if I have a home and i've made it as large as I want for my digital asset mining it could be possibly as large as some of these commercial line mining ones so i'm just curious as to why we're telling local questions control when you said that we're not represented already I think one of the next ways of this when it's already here is going to be the home issue at this point in time. On your laptop at home your desktop you can be you can mind. I understand all that not only interrupt because we're limited for time it's just that my question really goes to your statement that were letting local government control but then we're not letting local government control and that's really what i'm interested in I don't need a definition of okay I don't understand that I think the the intent there is not in to get into the homes but that is a separate discussion i'm i'm open I mean a cities want to go in and regulate inside the homes maybe we need to allow that to see but from a power generation issue I don't think it's going to be a concern for multiple reasons represented I failed your recognized thank you madame jeer represented the clear appreciate your efforts to to fix this problem in our state my question is this bill that you're proposing would it help the people of both no arkansas with this i'm sure you've heard the horrific noise and watched videos yes would your bill and bother you would your bill help that well with the emergency clause being internet have ninety days to comply they they don't have to build that thing and have it in the sealed envelope or they're going to have to move it. Thanks. Seeing no other questions thank you thank you. Now then we'll move down to house resolution ten twenty representative more please identify yourself for the record and then you may begin. Thank you madame share members of the rules committee my name is representative jeremiah more a represent house district sixty one. This has been a very long and ongoing issue for both me and my constituents it all sorted in september right after I got engaged. Learned of news that a crypto mounting facility was going in just outside a city limits and would arkansas. For the next two and a half weeks and I swear that i'm not overestimating I spent no less than sixty hours on the phone talking with concerned citizens and constituents of mine. See the thing is dewitter it's a small community is that I bought home town that everybody would be proud to be from and everybody loves going back home to it's kind of placed where they say the prayer before football game on a friday night it's kind of place where they respect each other's property rises neighbors and it's a place that patriotism runs deep. These crypto mounting facilities this emerging market is so new and so it's not well understood. And there's so many factors and variables that can either make four a good neighbor as seven my colleagues have crypto mounts in their districts or can make for a potentially catastrophic neighborhood. Whether it's the fear of noise the fear of one of our foreign adversaries owning thousands of computers within two miles from an electrical grid or a substation whether it's a fear of depletion of natural resources. These are all issues that do to other colleagues and these occurrences. Had been brought to the table today what i'm asking you to do is to hear this resolution because while I do not have all the answers. It is worth studying and work putting this forward to do something we've never done which in a fiscal session is pass nonfiscal related items it's a big hurdle and I know there's interpretation out there but these rules exist for a reason and I believe that reason has come to existence today. This house resolution. Ten twenty. It doesn't it still needs to be changed and the committee process i'm aware of that I know you bought red and a some of you have voice you're concerned and but we are dedicated to getting this right and to doing it in a manner that benefits everybody involved. The reason we need state regulation is for the issues that have previously talked about whether there'd be noise for an ownership issues like electricity and natural resources such as water and the reason that my bill or resolution. It's so important it's because it gives the power. Of regulation and oversight to the state. They were to small community around three thousand people are consolidate counting is run. Seventeen or eighteen thousand people we're talking about billion dollar corporations if not multi million dollar corporations coming in and running rough shot over these communities. I tell you what in my home county of monroe county we do not have a crypto mine. But in my county of sixty eight hundred people we do not have the way with all over the capabilities of overseeing and regulating these industry this industry even if local control was back and I am four local contr. We need department of energy and environment is my resolution states to have the authority to create rules and regulations that will then be approved by a lc us the governing body and then be promulgated and enforced. The. In fact this cryptomarn and dewit has sued arkansas county. How do you think that faired. Not very well in fact. They had the goal to subpoena their state elected official me for my documents and communications regarding my efforts with adq. And to keep them and compliance which if you look at eighty accuse website that crypto mine was not in compliance. They were in error they were at fault and they must be held accountable. Whether it's noise foreign ownership through the international traffic and arms regulation power water these are real issues and we must study them we must create rules for them and we must ensure that these corporations these companies behave appropriately as a good neighborhood indeed with arkansas thank you now moving for questions are there any questions. Seeing no questions thank you i'll bring you back in a minute first we have rick smith. To speak for the bill please I introduce yourself at the record and who you're with separate their server at them. The. Thank you my name is rick smith I am a pastor from the morning community near russellville arkansas. Thank you for the honor of allowing me to address you this morning and for. The incredible service I think you do for our stayed and for our many citizens. You may not hear it enough from various individuals among your constituents but let me let you hear it from me this morning we do appreciate you and we appreciate all the work that you do and we know it's a hard and tedious task but it is noticed and it is appreciated i'm grateful for representative duffield working in close relationship with our district representative standbarry the support that they're given us. And. You know from my chair all of you look very intimidating as someone ever told you. And I feel like those gas in washington do when they're sitting before send it hearing. Senator kennedy is about to ask questions a though see a familiar phase representative here and I have a common connection in singing southern gospel music are do sing better than he does but we won't go there. You know the issues that bring us together today are growing rapidly in various parts of our state. Including our little more community there not just one but too cryptocurrency mining operations are currently under development within hundreds of feed of the building where we meet each sunday for worship. In addition to that there are no lench than eight residential dwellings within that same proximity. We've had a lot of discussion in our community in fact a few weeks ago we held a public gathering in a church that brought some two to three hundred citizens around the russiaville hector moral and atkins uh dolver communities and we in paneled a number of people from among our state and local officials to answer questions. Because there's a lot of questions out there if you were to go to the internet tonight and sit down in spend about two hours researching crypto currency in all of these things related to it. At the end of that time you will know more than about ninety five percent of the people in arkansas. Because the question that I confront often is what are you talking about what is crypto currency what is a crypto currency mind what do they do why is this a problem. And it has been the conviction that I have had to be informed and to be able to share credible information with our community and with our church. Because I have learned that if good credible information is not given people have a way of coming up with their own answers and then we have to confront a lot of misinformation and disinformation which creates confusion and hostility and there has been the perception among members of our community that you are not doing your job that you have let them down and I have tried to help them to understand that that is not the case. That you are working that you do have wheels in motion and i've encouraged them to trust you and to trust the process and be in here this morning and hearing all of the things that has been presented to you reaffirms to me that you are indeed involved that you are indeed aware and that you are indeed trying your best to make things happen. I think that if you make some good decisions in this process it's going to show several things and i'll just mention these quickly and passing first of all it'll show that you're you have a personal acknowledgement that there are real problems that they really currently exist with these operations. Things like noise disturbance stress on our power grids environmental concerns relating to the water usage. One of the things that our community is concerned with this the effect that these situations have on property values I mean can you imagine the lady that lives next to the facility in bouno putting her property up for sale. If she could sell it she would more than likely have to sell it at a far less value than it is worth because who wants to live next to there our people have those same concerns and of course all of the national security questions related to the chinese ownership as you have discussed today. I may not know better but i've actually walked into these facilities and met the operators i've driven into the chinese complex too the right of our church and actually drove up and spoken to the chinese people who are building it and operating it I ventured them questions and the interesting thing is they have all assured me that their operations will an absolutely no way in cumber our church or our community and i've looked them in the eye and said well I appreciate you telling me that and I will hold you to it. But I need you to help me hold them to it and the best way that you can do that is to consider the necessary steps to attack this issue now and the get them to where they need to be. Whatever action you take especially if it is positive action will show that you acknowledge that there is a problem it'll also show your constituents. That you hear them and that you care because i've heard them stay I just don't think they care for us up there in little rock what's happening to us an our communities. And i've tried to assure them that that is not the case. But you're actions here this week we'll speak volumes to them that you really do hear them that you really do care about what they're going through i've heard it suggested that some of our state representatives. Don't feel like there's great concern because these facilities are not located in their districts. Well lemme ask your question. Do you have an electric substation somewhere in your district is there a property available near that substation that can be acquisitioned. If so then there's a very strong likelihood that this is going to become a reality in your district with your constituents. I don't know where cbs got their information about fifty of these facilities about to break out in arkansas. But if that is indeed true it's very likely it's going to be on your front doorstep very very soon. Another thing your action will do is show your colleagues that you're willing to step back and correct an oversight in my notes I actually had at an error but I think that's a little too strong. I know it's not have heard here today that things were made in haste and that certainly is understandable but if you take the necessary steps beginning today you can show your colleagues and your constituents that you are willing to accept responsibility that you are willing to push back dick deeper learn more discover more facts re evaluate and start the process again of open debate and discussion due diligence and correcting that oversight that was done when fifty eight fifty one was passed. It'll also sold show these miners that you're open to their business opportunities in the spirit of american free enterprise but. Not without some restrictions and regulations the same in which we impose on multiple businesses that operate in our state we welcome them to our economy i've told our folks we're not going to be able to shut down these minds and push them out of the country but what we do want them to do is be fair with them as we are with all businesses. And make them accountable to regulations and respect the communities where they reside we want to ensure that their operations pose no incumbents to homes. And families and schools and yes churches medical facilities take care centers and other businesses that's shouldn't be too much to ask. And then finally your actions here will show that we can work together. And establish an effective legislative framework and system to accommodate crypto mining if we must the new structure that you could create in these next few days could not only effectively regulate this industry in arkansas but it can serve as a working model for other states where crypto mining operations are expanding across the country you we here in arkansas could be a pioneer in how these facilities are better regulated and government so enclosing let me just say I assume that you know your heart. I assume that your greatest desire is to better serve the people of arkansas and the community that entrusted you to this office I assume that you see your role in these chambers as doing the right thing in the right way with the right people and for all the right reasons for the better meant of all our cancens and that is my humble and urgent appeal to you today thank you for allowing me to address you this morning thank you for being here pastor next we have jackie johnson oh representative jane you had a question yeah you can represent pastor pasterick pasterick will you come back and take a question. The. He didn't let it before I said it sorry representative jean you are recognized thank you i'm i'm over here behind the cab I had to do that you seem to be an expert over yes and I would just want you done some research how many of these facilities are throughout the state of arkansas. We actually have a gentleman in russia russell wheel who is a retired major general with the army with a lot of the international intelligence you may have heard of bill harmon bill is a a great expert at these and he's actually compiled a spreadsheet where these facilities are in the number does not come to my mind immediately but I could certainly pull that up and send you a copy of it I would appreciate the end of this follow works of have i've heard the number eighteen I don't know if that's right or not. But of them do you know how many of these are chinese I don't without looking at that spreadsheet do you know if any of them in the state of architect arkansas owned and operated. Supposedly the one that is going in across the street from our church a company called block ups is a an american company will have an answer american said ar. I think that there are some out of status yeah but but are any of them arkansas owned and operated I do not know the answer that question right bareness thank you representative defial d thank you could get that from the past to ring it to the committee members that would be much appreciated. Thank you sir thank you now then jackie johnson you're recognized please as state your name ma'am and who you're with for the committee. Ah my name is jackie junk blow your way out of better back up my name is jackie johnson in arm from the weight are owned lawrence garden with my husband and my daughter and I am here to just represent it all of arkansas about these and are the first thing I would like to say when I got up this morning are didn't sleep all night because I knew how very important this was going to be for mac community in mass state to come here in speak on what's going on in our state today in it was early in the morning in an island has been us said you have any advastate before I get there he said yes I do he said speak the truth in don't curse in our second and I said well that will do most best so yes i'll albert strine massive today that's that's one of the more one of my scenes i'm sorry telling all myself the first thing I would like to read to you today is john eight thirty two in its shall know the truth in the truth shall make you free today i'm gonna share with each and every one of your the people behind me the people this view and this is it's is it's going out to work in sar some very serious truce that we found out about these demands in i'm gonna start out in this is something that is really being overlooked about these cripped onlines and that is a health issue. In the reason it's called manning is because your member back in the day when they come and and it was black dust in all the people suffered from the black lung. This is something that happens with manning crypto currency but association group in all the crypto matters out there we got a change there the reason it's called manning is it's cook like the old days of the gold rush. The. What happened in these crypto mans they are thousands in thousands of hour speed computers it those computers just aren't turned on it's like you used to when you kids and outright have their own cars but when I was growing up you had moment daddy's car and I would give you election and tell you when you go out don't go over the speed limit in the first thing we do we get out of sight we would start that time to the floor a week and let off to leader we ran out of gas we would point up the driveway the way a crypto learn for cility functions is it is why open the entire time it's running in all those thousands in thousands of computers or disintegrated they kick off days that are in those computers in that goes out into the atmosphere in its called pm two point five is banned particle dust made of all kinds of hazardous chemicals in this has nothing new this would be the route for a long time people that leave close to industrial parts suffered this but the crypto mand is expectedly. I don't know what the word is how it pertrudes out because the nature of the based of how crypto minds or designed in the first amount spoke I sort of met represent german more in a column court meeting when this offers came up in a spoke in after I get this speaker it was on television in when I got home I got a phone call and I got a phone call from a million dead is a burned about families he is a pathologist you know studies tissue you've tathered one of the largest pathology to part the ceilities in the united states at one time and he called me up and he suggested he said there's something that nobody will be talking about if he said this is this band particle dust he said absolutely laughs work looking at slads looking at tissue and this is a real thing that happens to people would anybody like to guess where his facility was it was in texas in texas has the largest group of crypto man's in the largest crypto mans in the world in his jackie when you get up to talk he said the first thing you say is you were man all these people that every person that lives down wind from one of these facilities to go to the exposed to this in indeework in saw where we have description mom facility do you know what we've got down we the first thing we have we have our beautiful methodist church that ever sunday about three hundred people get together in dick out of that church roddon down from that we have our kindy garden in our prescore. Connected to that we have our middle school and then connected to that we have our hassle. Those children every day would be exposed to this you know right jeannings a while back into the kind of separate before the conceptor if they donated scholarships to the children in our schools but yet they're defendant a company that will be kicking out these fond particle dust that will give our children asthma forgot we also have a nursing home at you go is just a strip you go right on down and there's the northern this particle dust every day they take a breath deal breed the san and I wonder how long it's going to be changed said it won't be too terribly long said they'll start heaving respiratory issues so we've seen it in texas what they'll start having asthma this also run your blood pressure up in public forms you know people speaking you have all the crowd in when it's a lot of people you also were any public discussion if people are fried in their mouth standard but once over we have and i'm sure you ball experience that this don't come up to you in the outside jackie I got a question and there was a young lady and she was pregnant and she came up to me in she said i've been ringing a lot about these cripped demands in unknown leaving close they calls miscourages because like run your blood pressure up they pollute she said do you think i'm gonna be okay in a lot of the I now said what I pray that you will have that baby before the crypto mond is up in running in what she said to me she said I probably will but she said I want to have more children he didn't move away from the wit in a said I have no idea but i'll find out. Yeah. I want to move on because the time is limited but I want you to realize there are true real health effects for these crypto minds if you don't have to do a study in arkansas because these studies have been done they've been done all over the world crypto learning is not a new thing these crypto facilities have been run out of countries all over the world but we welcome them into arkansas network on earth did we do that. Think about it because they don't make anything they don't do anything what a cripped out facility is with all those computers it is an organizing gambling facility for billionaires dyman for a big coin in let me tell you your chance of winning the lottery is greater than making one bit coin because a big coin facility is not only competent against other big point facilities to northern circle every bit coming facility is and i'm glad your set in class cause i'm spit number sorry but anyway a big coin facility one of them they are competent against every bit coin facility in the world to make that big coin so what is the chances so that's where it comes in all this fraud that comes around because what they'll do they'll tell you i've got a big coin facility what would you investigate we're really making a lot of money so the nice start getting more and more money in the big coin industry is a hollow there's somebody here i'm stepping on your child and sorry because this is going to ruin arkansas is going to ruin these fortunately I mean ruin our communities because he's already been done they've already ruined places other places that's why they're kipped out but anyway they run the price a bit going up in any body that is a legitimate person in bananas will tear you this is equivalent to a pet rock or a beanie baby there's nothing secure about any of this it is fraud in it opens up the door for bad actors to come in and I don't want anybody be followed here sarah sanders knew exactly what she was doing which she opened the door for the cripped ombuds to come in here the people that wrote this beautiful touchy action group i'll get to tell you about the images the second. Because I had first hand experience with them over a week ago but anyway it's all fraud in in the legitimate breath is anybody business summer in here it's not a crypto manager and it would be answer saying gravel yes your business you provide in the community tell me something would you run your business do you destroy other people that live miles from you do you have their business high now you don't you responsible launcher you can't ask the committee quite a welcome i'm so sorry but but that's fine i'm sorry you know if you'll be wrapping as we do that thank you yes something else that that I want to speak about I talked about the health problems we in our make this quote but it's something very very important I need to get to is on these crypto facilities everybody keeps talking about did they use a lot of energy but nobody ever tears you exactly how much in what that's going to do to your community. We had found out and we spoken to two different commercial electricians both of them worn work so on cryptomans when he's been in the crypto facility outside the wit in we have not been able to get any information exactly how much energy that's going to use but they have in what's going to happen is that facility when it starts up we found out it is equivalent to thirty walmart superseniors or even of their thirty walmart superstates in the state of arkansas is there but thirty right outside a wit in the reason is so crucial for a crypto man to be with in two miles at the substation is because it gets all the energy in what you get is what's left over so that means when that crypto station like I told you that fires up in its go and why I opened there's no electricity left for other businesses so when the hot summertime with laurence garden i've got not beat foods going or a farmer scottish ras will go in or a sheet factory that's been there for seventy five years in all of overseas and there's no power it just goes down do you know how long you have to turn off a piece of equipment before it burns it up you have less than two minutes so if you're not home in your air initial units running you have power going in your house is going to burn it up that ras well for that former is going to burn up that shoot factory that's made it seventy five years manufacturing choose in america is going to burn out it because there's nothing out there you've got a breaker in your breaker box and you get too much electricity ill trip that breaker but long energy there is nothing out there or lower low voltage electricity they can save any other equipment is is that going to be okay new community how many air conditioners do you think will burn up before the insurance company say I won't insure you anymore. How long do you think that she factory the equipment in there can burn up and they have to lead go someplace sales because that's not that's exactly what we're facing but let me check you something that there are really wonder share gard is an on time guard he is not late in he is not early in a week and a half ago I was still in really day on because our new the chower working on this eat thrilled to me it's just a god scene that you all are bringing this up because I know the damage that is fixing to do to communities all over this wonderful wonderful state well I got a phone card from dumas arkansas from miss and gamble has who has the floors and it was almost ten o'clock and she said jackie we got word that the city council is going to meet there's a mayor coming and he wants to put a crypto man in doomus instead there's nobody there that knows anything about crypto manner in which you please come I should ask him if I can be on their gender she saw jackie supposed to be public form going to speak so I go and want to get there's typical citi counts for meeting and there's a man set in the row in front of me and i'm never seen a rears. We're set near the galf figure business and they get done in this crypto man gets up to speak. It when he started to speak a recognized a language he was speaking he was speaking the sotashi action group topping points in a garage there and he kept talking if it was nil amazon the youngest part in there they were elderly people there that that would just you know the people that you're having community and I started asking questions in one little lady she asking she said sir sir you sign the true gonna make my electric bill go down he said no not exactly because their electric bill will end up going through the roof they're closing you leave to a crypto mand your bill will go up anywhere she asked him she said will sir another ready ditch said what he is criticised in this crypto matter said what is crypto you know where you told her he said well it's a way to pay your bills online which is a laugh in the end is he kept talking kept saying all this in the said our facility uh do misses are very unusual little time it has a power station rather right in the not brought in the middle but just you come into domest in this guy was want to purchase this property in he he started challenging he said this critical marine picked and put it is gonna be small just gonna be for your you won't know it's there is going to be wonderful it's going to create all these jobs would I share this in source and helping job this will create what kind of revenue we're gonna get this it he didn't answer in the kept asking these questions the finally I was held behind it in a since sir could you please tell me I said in these people how many jobs it's going to create he said maybe five in then he talked about dot the boxes that were going to be there and this is the keeper this is the most important thing this is why senator king touched on so many things about the the regulation that needs to be out there they met the main cities it's gonna be a close loop. System. In I held at my hand and I said circus and knew about closely system acid and he talked about the they'll be cool it all in this closely system and assist certain that have to be discharged because we can't get a answer about the one outside the weird in found out what they're going to do with the water in that general and tell me and i'll tell you who was at the end I said. What are you going to do with that war I see is it going to stay in there he said oh no ma'am all crypto minds have to discharge their water. I think we it's got that clueless it has all that in it acid you didn't have that on your little you look presentation what you can do that water you know what he said he said we're gonna dump it in the domasts sewer that is highly illegal that cannot be done there is an answer that the eighty two should have already had that we've been waiting on but I heard it out of the horse's mail then the next thing that he talked about he said we got a bill up he said I wrote that bill he said this up before the legislator is going on in our save with the head and the just what branch bill he said yes my ideas this means name are that man's name is kamerine baker he is head of cryptic farms he's the one that also helped get all the crypto mans in texas. He said they are in you've got a record you can call up this city council will do this in band out everything he said but today i'm handing you not a smoking but a smoking cryptomat just see how these people chartered them in manipulate what they're doing when they come in these communities in the scariest thing and i'm going to end it here is he was talking about he said we're going to be a candor gentler cripped online facility we're not gonna be like jones digital and weird said they have great plans for the weight there's fixing too expand even I said that we've been trying to get that information from at their absolutely sick it must dummic because we have been up day in night hour after our below in your phone at blow and all these agencies in the state's bonus to find out what their intentions were but this man came out baker he knew their intentions because he talked to him in he said there are competition that's why we picked doomus in they're not only going to put a little facility they wanted to inside doomes he told her we're going to put three massive facilities outside of doomess that will be arrived called what all that noise we couldn't get that information from anybody but this dude he's built a beans about what they were supposed to be doing so i'm telling you these people's intentions are not good it needs up to your yall or the firewall for the interstate of arkansas to stop this if other countries date and want crypto man's in it in they kicked it out while their head altone it down while the heck should we will welcome them to arkansas this is not a republican democrat or left or right issue it is a right in wrong issue about the people of this state in our wellbeing for our children in our. Future have a business in a legitimate business in I don't hurt my neighbor and I don't polite my neighbor in they shouldn't either i've taken enough of your time appreciation it might have lowered blass each in ironing all that if set through this thank you very much in our answer questions if you have any thank you for being here thank you okay so this is how we're going to do this we're going to go and bought in the order in which the resolution yeah we're going to close but we're gonna let each one of your clothes representative miller is going to close for all of here's resolutions and then we're going to take each resolution app separately and boat on each one separately and then will go to the net so we're going to stay in the order in which they were given or presented so representative miller would you like close for your resolutions. Madam chair members of the committee I know it's been a long morning lot to digest I appreciate shell stay in in here and less than down their serve. I was told last week then. Yeah. Resolutions I was going to lose. All political capitalism hell i've never had any so I didn't have any more that much anyway lesson. I'm here in front of you right now I want. A fair. And wide discussion. I'm whatever legislation. Open the door they've passed all but seven or eight resolutions. House members the way you want to be ones who don't. Allow those to happen. Yeah. I don't think so. There's folks out here. That really hurt because what's going on here. And if we don't do something. There's a lot more folks who are really hard and it's all funny games. Till it comes in next door to you. So that's why they mirror twelve gotten involved I know the lady in bono. Friend of mine hate to see what's happened in there. I wrote just a couple of days I will say i'll shut up. Number one I drove around my area all the time. The. But I see. A large exam stations. So yes. Places say cell phone towers water departments water towers. All of these things that are crucial to our infrastructure. Our utility infrastructure. I have never seen that one time. An armed guard. Outside of any of our utility. Structure stations. Out of these crypto. Better innocent. The. I'm not even trying to get in how to explain all that because i'm way about my paper. Now. That means said. If those committee passes all was eight resolutions. I want to vote for all eight. On the floor. I will have I won't have a wide open discussion and let them. The interested parties come together come up with a good bill or two that fixes the problem the legislature has these avenues to deal with things in the first session for times like this. Why not deal with it now let's not spend the taxpayer money in a fiscal session let's not make people suffer longer to wait until you all come back next year. That's mark thinking about ask this question number shower. Why don't you just try to the original bill sponsors. And their res. I'm going to vote for their resolution. But I don't let the same man take me snarp putting twice those yeah from the country you'll get there i'd appreciate a good vote on all six. Of center teams and mount resolutions thank you what's the will of the committee on house resolution ten fourteen. We have a motion to pass all in favor say opposed no it's past what is well at the committee on house resolution t and eighteen. We have emotion do payout selling favors they are opposed no the mouth house resolution has passed what is the will of the committee on house resolution ten fifteen we have a motion to pay us all in fibre say I against no the motion has pay us the resolution has passed. What is the will of the committee on house resolution ten seventeen we have a motion do pay out all in favor say a pos no the as have it. What is the will at the committee on house resolution ten sixteen we have emotion do pay our solemn fibre say opposed no they are have it what is the will of the committee on house resolution ten nineteen we have a motion do pay for and oppose no the motion has passed representative mclure would you like to close for your resolution. Well thank you committee for being patient or someone thanks under king and miller and all the others that have put in a lot of research thank those who came to speak for one against the bill. Would you identify the problem we now have to go to work and try to solve the problem so I would appreciate it a good vote and let's move forward. Representative mclear has closed for his resolution with the will of the committee I have emotion do pass all in favor say a opposed no the resolution has pay asked representative more would you like to close for your resolution. Madame share members of the rules committee thank you all for hearing everyone's testimony today for what it's worth i'd hear that this industry not even exist but here we are we're in a fiscal session and this is an issue that must be dealt with and if these businesses are going to continue to exist we must ensure for critical conditions that the state has the authority to regulate and have oversight versus noise. Second is foreign ownership with a zero percent ownership threshold on the under the ator designation. And having spoken with national security experts in dc this is a real national security threat the third is power and electricity the fourth is water. The statements have oversight over all these concerns regarding this business and with that I would appreciate a good boat thank you representative more has closed for his bill what is the will of committee we have a motion to pass all in favor say I uppers no the resolution has passed thank you