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State Agencies & Govt'l Affairs-Senate

February 4, 2021 ·2:00 PM or Upon Adjournment Whichever is Later ·OSC (Public Comment Holding Room: 272) ·59:52
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Bill Title Sponsor Status
HB1117 Act 284 · 3 mentions in chapter, agenda, transcript
Matched: “HB1117 Wardlaw CONCERNING THE DIVISION OF CORRECTION INMATE FARM F…”
CONCERNING THE DIVISION OF CORRECTION INMATE FARM FUND. Wardlaw Notification that HB1117 is now Act 284
HB1153 Act 127 · 3 mentions in agenda, transcript, chapter
Matched: “…A PROCESS TO SELL STATE LAND; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. HB1153 Ladyman TO AMEND THE ARKANSAS EMERGENCY SERVICES ACT OF 197…”
TO AMEND THE ARKANSAS EMERGENCY SERVICES ACT OF 1973 CONCERNING THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF … Ladyman Notification that HB1153 is now Act 127
SB188 · 3 mentions in transcript, chapter, agenda
Matched: “…so that we can move forward. Thank you, Mr. Chair, members. SB 188 is very straightforward. and it basically says that if you'…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING POLLING PLACES; AND TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING ELECTIONEERING. A. Clark Died on House Calendar at Sine Die Adjournment
SB252 · 3 mentions in transcript, agenda, chapter
Matched: “…o speak on this bill, Senator Garner is prepared to present Senate Bill 252 and I also know”
TO PROHIBIT THE ARKANSAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FROM ESTABLISHING OR MAINTAINING AN OFFICE IN CHINA. T. Garner Sine Die adjournment
SB258 Act 330 · 3 mentions in chapter, agenda, transcript
Matched: “SB258 Bledsoe TO AUTHORIZE NONMANDATORY MULTIYEAR REGISTRATION AN…”
TO AUTHORIZE NONMANDATORY MULTIYEAR REGISTRATION AND LICENSING BY THE CONTRACTORS LICENSING BOARD. Bledsoe Notification that SB258 is now Act 330
HB1202 Act 128 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1202 A. Collins TO AMEND ELECTION LAWS; TO AMEND PUBLICATION REQ…”
TO AMEND ELECTION LAWS; TO AMEND PUBLICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR ELECTIONS; AND TO REQUIRE PUBLICATION OF … A. Collins Notification that HB1202 is now Act 128
HCR1004 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HCR1004 Bentley CONCERNING THE CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY VESTED IN T…”
CONCERNING THE CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY VESTED IN THE PEOPLE, THE STATES, AND THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. Bentley Approved by the Governor
SB163 Act 522 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB163 J. English TO CREATE THE ARKANSAS MILITARY AFFAIRS COUNCIL…”
TO CREATE THE ARKANSAS MILITARY AFFAIRS COUNCIL ACT; TO ESTABLISH THE MILITARY AFFAIRS GRANT PROGRAM; … J. English Notification that SB163 is now Act 522
SB165 Act 155 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…rke Tucker RE-REFERRED TO COMMITTEE Number Sponsor Subtitle SB165 J. Hendren TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE TERMINATION AND…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE TERMINATION AND CANCELLATION OF A RESIDENTIAL LEASE UNDER THE … J. Hendren Notification that SB165 is now Act 155
SB183 Act 324 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ILITARY AFFAIRS GRANT PROGRAM; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. SB183 K. Ingram TO AMEND CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAW; TO PROHIBIT THE US…”
TO AMEND CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAW; TO PROHIBIT THE USE OF CAMPAIGN FUNDS OR CARRYOVER FUNDS … K. Ingram Notification that SB183 is now Act 324
SB241 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…ING PLACES; AND TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING ELECTIONEERING. SB241 Caldwell TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE SALE OF STATE LAND…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE SALE OF STATE LAND; TO ESTABLISH A PROCESS TO … Caldwell Sine Die adjournment
SB75 · 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…N THE PEOPLE, THE STATES, AND THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. SB75 M. Johnson TO AMEND THE PROVISIONS OF ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION…”
TO AMEND THE PROVISIONS OF ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION, AMENDMENTS 91 AND 101, TO PROVIDE THAT PROCEEDS … M. Johnson Sine Die adjournment

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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 0:00
I'm getting ready to call the quorum, so somebody, you want to see if Senator Bledsoe's out there? Chair sees
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Senator Breanne Davis Unverified 0:16
a quorum. Members, we're going to move pretty quick today because the debate
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 0:21
that went so long on the floor is thrown off. I've got some meetings coming up, so we're going to move as quickly as we can. So if you are actually here, if you're sitting here for presentation of the bill, especially if you're doing it on behalf of a House bill and we don't see your name here on the list, please let Maddie know, staff know, so that we can move expeditiously. Some of these bills, if there's any members that might be watching this just to catch up on where we're at, if you have not contacted staff about your bill there are some of these bills that are getting ready to go to deferred list and we want to get these bills heard and have everybody taken care of. Also want to prepare the committee that in the future we get February 10th as you know is the deadline for constitutional amendments and then after that deadline we'll probably schedule one day where we'll just take up the constitutional amendments and do that as has been custom in the past. So thank you all for being here. I'm just going to begin to go down this list and Maddie, if you happen to know of any others, the ones that I've got, three I've got on deck that I know are here. And so if somebody else is. Okay. All right. And then. Okay. So sounds like Senator English, we're going to have to skip over that. We're going to have to skip over that bill that you're going
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Speaker 7 1:51
to run for Senator Hendren? Are we going to have to? I know they were talking about
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 2:01
an amendment. Excuse me? He needs to skip over it, members. They thought they had it here, but they don't have it, so that's the problem. So they're going to try to get it here, and we'll take it up before we get out of here as best we can. Okay, very good. Thank you, Senator English. With that, we're going to slide down the list very far to HB 1117, and I believe that's Senator Gilmore is going to run that for Representative Wardlaw. Mr. Garner, if I'll prepare you, I know you've got a bill coming, but if you don't mind, after we do this one, I'm going to jump down with this quick one for Adam, and then we'll move on. Senator Gilmore, good to see you. If you'd state your name for the
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Senator Ben Gilmore Unverified 3:01
record. Absolutely, Mr. Chair, thank you. ben gilmore senator district 26 i'd like to ask secretary graves to join me as well all right be very good and members why he is well i'll let him state his name for the record as well
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Speaker 18 3:24
hello secretary graves good afternoon mr mr chair and members of of the committee Solomon Grove, Secretary of Corrections.
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Chair Unverified 3:31
Thank you for being here. You're recognized for
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Senator Ben Gilmore Unverified 3:34
presentation of the bill, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Members, this is a fairly easy bill. It's a good bill. You may or may not be aware that Community Corrections has extensive farm operations that grows produce that inmates consume. They are allowed to borrow funds to cover the cost of the production of the farm, which, to put it simply, is paid back through the consumption and saving funds through the consumption of the produce that is consumed. That being said, the Division of Community Corrections is not allowed to do that same function, basically for technical reasons, which this bill clears up. So with that, I would ask Secretary Grave to perhaps expound on
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Speaker 22 4:23
that. Mr. Chair, I believe Senator Gilmore did a great job explaining the bill. In effect, all it does is allow for the consideration of consumption by the Division of Community Correction, meaning if our residents or inmates in those facilities consume commodities produced by the farm, That consumption counts against the repayment considerations of the Budget Stabilization Trust Fund law. Members, any questions for Senator Gilmore or Secretary Graves? No
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 4:54
questions. Are you closed for your bill, sir? I'm
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Senator Breanne Davis Unverified 5:00
closed, Mr. Chair. Is there anyone here to speak for or against? I haven't seen anything. I have a motion to do pass, Senator Ballinger. I have a second, Senator Bledsoe. All those in
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 5:13
favor say aye. Aye. All opposed, no. All right. Bill passes. Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. I
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Speaker 24 5:19
want to yield here. Senator Garner for 1153.
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 5:37
Senator Rapp, you're recognized to present your bill. Thank you. I was looking around the room. I don't know
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 5:45
if A.J. Gary is here with Adam. I don't see him. Do you see him? There he is. He's the far side. If you wouldn't mind, I'd like him to
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Speaker 28 5:51
join if there is any questions for him. Absolutely. Sir, just
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 5:55
say your name for the record and your title. Senator Rayford, District
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 6:04
35. Thank you. Thank you, A.J. This is House Bill 1153. Very short bill. The bottom line on the bill, this division
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 6:14
has now been all moved, all these services and this activity has been moved to Adam. I think it's dealing with AWIN, correct? And the situation is that they actually have no authority like the former entities to accept funds that might want to be donated to a particular project for installation of an antenna etc that's kind of the bottom line and i want to yield to director gary for any technical information on the bill sir
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Speaker 32 6:48
can you say your name and
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Speaker 33 6:50
title for the record please good afternoon aj gary the director of the arkansas division of emergency management and as senator rapert said this is really pretty simple AWIN, the Arkansas Wireless Information Network, was housed with DIS and ASP. It was moved to ADAM last year. Those agencies had that ability to accept funds. ADAM didn't. So as the senator said, not only for donations, but if a city or county needs to install more capacity on their tower, normally now they would do that and then turn it over to us. This could give us the ability, if that city or county wanted to, we could do that work or AWIN could do that work and then the money could be transferred over to AWIN to cover those costs. We've got some questions about user fees. This has nothing to do with user fees. Doesn't authorize them. Doesn't have anything to do with that. Thank you. Any questions,
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Speaker 34 7:49
committee? Seeing none, anybody signed up to speak for or against the bill? No. Senator, are you closed for your bill? Closed, sir, yes. I'll entertain
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Senator Trent Garner Unverified 7:58
a motion from the committee. Motion to pass from Senator Bledsoe, seconded by Senator English. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Congratulations, Senator.
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Speaker 36 8:23
All right. So we got those knocked off there. Okay. Senator Bledsoe, are you ready for
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 8:32
Senate Bill 258, ma'am? All right. We're going to go ahead and pick that up, and then we're going to come grab, I think, on our time here. We'll get Senator Garner. is there going to
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Speaker 12 8:55
be several here all right well we'll try to grab senator clark did i appreciate
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 9:01
you telling me that uh all right senator bledsoe
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Chair Unverified 9:06
you're recognized ma'am all right thank you uh members of the committee this is a bill uh for the contractors licensing board and senate uh Secretary Bissett of the Labor and Licensing Floor, has approved of this, and this is very much like what we do now with our license renewals for our car. It is a registration may be renewed for a period of one year, two years, or three years with the fee of $100 per year. and it's up to the board. So I would think it would be non-controversial. And again, the secretary brought this to me. All right, Senator. I'd be glad to answer any questions. Thank you very much. Senator Tucker. Thank
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 9:54
you, Mr. Chair. I just have one
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 9:58
question. I think I have this right. I just want to make sure.
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Chair Unverified 10:02
You're not changing the fee. No, no, no. Not changing anything except the ability to buy a license for... More than one year. Yes. Okay, thank you. Yes. Thank you, Mr.
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Senator Breanne Davis Unverified 10:12
Chair. All right. Members, any other questions? Any other questions? Is there anybody signed up at all on this? Senator, are you closed for your bill? I am. All right. I
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 10:28
have a motion do pass. Senator English. I have a second. Senator Ballinger. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. All opposed, no. Thank you. Thank you.
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Speaker 50 10:37
You passed your bill. Okay. All right. This
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 10:42
puts us back in position. We're going to start at the top of the list now and come back down. So Senator Clark, are you here? I believe you are. If you're ready, sir. Senator Johnson, are you here for Senate
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 11:07
Bill 75? Okay. Okay. Senator Johnson, Senator Clark, you're recognized for presentation of your bill. Some of you that come in late, I just want to tell you that we do have a meeting
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 11:18
that's going to be pushing a little bit on this, so I encourage
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 11:25
you to get to the point on the bill so that we can move forward. Thank you, Mr. Chair, members. SB 188 is very straightforward. and it basically says that if you're going to be a polling place that on election day or election days that you'll be a polling place and not private property and I'll be happy to take
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Senator Breanne Davis Unverified 11:49
any questions. Members you have any questions for Senator Clark? Senator Davis. Can you can you give a little bit of background on, I mean, I read through the bill and it sounded like maybe there are specific
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Senator Alan Clark Unverified 12:07
instances. Yes. Of course, I've been running for office since 92 and used to, I don't know of any problems, but in the last several years, there's been lots of problems. And what election commissioners are saying is that this is private property and whoever owns the property at the polling place can do what they want. And so we have things like sometimes at the polling place, they'll say you can't put up signs, they'll say you can't electioneer, which means you can't ask people to vote for you. Now, we're talking about obeying the law outside the 100-foot, that you can't park a vehicle there, that you can't gather signatures for petitions. It's rarely that I agree with the issues that people are gathering signatures for, but that's one of the basic parts of our government is self-rule. And if we're going to say that that's the way people can change their government and then say, but on Election Day, the main time you can find registered voters, you can't get on the property where you vote to gather signatures, that we're really doing away with grassroots government. But the basic problem with the property rights argument is that we can say Senator Davis' opponent, if it's really property rights, Senator Davis' opponent could put up signs, but Senator Davis can't. Or that this one, and we actually do this, this person got this amendment that somebody wants to gather signatures for popular initiative. Someone can, this one someone can't. And that's certainly not proper for elections. And, you know, our elections are sacred, and on election day, polling places should be polling places. And it's especially important that we continue to allow grassroots candidates and grassroots organizations to have access. If you have money, it doesn't matter whether you're out there waving signs or not. But if you don't have any money, but you have lots of volunteers, that's the day you need to be at the polls and you need to be getting people's attention. And we shouldn't have anything that's keeping you from doing that other than the regular federal law, 100 foot, you can't talk to people within that are standing in line and all those things are, we spell them out in the bill, but they just match, they just match the law.
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Senator Breanne Davis Unverified 14:45
Members, any more questions for Senator Clark? Seeing none, is there
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 14:50
anybody here that's want to speak for or against this bill? Seeing none, is there a motion? I have a motion from Senator Clark. Tucker? Well, I want to call you Senator Clark, don't I? I've done that all the time. Senator, it's just, I'm sorry. Senator Tucker's motion, I have a second from Senator Bledsoe. All those in favor say aye. All opposed, no. Thank you for the bill, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, members. All right. Okay, members, due to the time and the fact that we have people that have come specifically to speak on this bill, Senator Garner is prepared to present Senate Bill 252 and I also know that some of the departments have a meeting pending as well so we're trying to be
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Chair Unverified 15:35
respectful of everybody best we can. Senator Garner, you're recognized for presentation of your bill, sir.
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Senator Trent Garner Unverified 15:42
Thank you, Mr. Chair. If we do this, we'll face retaliation on soybeans from China will cost us untold amount of money in trade. If we do this, it will negatively impact Tyson. If we do this, we have no impact idea of the impact on Walmart, on our farmers, on our manufacturers. If we do this, we will end communications for Arkansas-based companies with China and they will not be able to contact anyone to be able to sell their goods. If we do this, it will have a dramatic impact on the customers and businesses in Arkansas and affect our communities. If we do this, we could lose billions of dollars in trade. If we do this, we're going to go out still going to do business with China but not be able to compete in the marketplace. If we do this. What I just discussed were the comments and questions from the April 9, 2020 joint budget meeting where I presented a budget amendment for ADEC. Those listed concerns that I just shared were brought up by those who opposed the bill. They said we would face those issues. We would lose revenue in trade, cost these major corporations we all care about millions of dollars or billions of dollars in trade. If we do this, what is this? You know what it was? You know what this was? It was shutting down our office in China. We discussed that in April of 2020. The governor's office shut down that office in June of 2020 That office isn't open today Whenever I put this bill out there, Roby Brock, which many of y'all know from Talk Business Politics Wrote a headline which I thought perfectly encapsulates this discussion State Senator Trent Garner, R. El Dorado, filed a bill Monday, February 1st, to close Arkansas's Economic Development Office in China. But Arkansas does not have an office in China. I'll note the snark in Roby's post. But that is exactly the point. We don't have an office in China, which is exactly what this bill does. Let me ask you all a question. from June of last year to this day. Have you seen those negative impacts that were brought up in that committee? Have we seen businesses shut down and trade stop with China because we stopped that office? Have we seen the world stop spinning from the chicken little emotional pleas that were made that day about how this would destroy our economy? Of course not. Listen, we have real issues dealing with China moving forward, dealing with our trade. I mean, if you're Tyson and Walmart, there's major economic considerations from the Trump policy that was more aggressive versus Joe Biden's policy, which is going to be a different way. We have COVID-19 fallout that still impacts our ability to get raw supplies. We have critical PPE equipment, other medical supplies that China still makes to this day that is a long-term issue for us to try to address. And we have intellectual property issues that are very real for many of the companies and businesses that are in here. Those are real issues. They've got nothing to squat 0% to do with opening and closing this office in China. Of course, when I put this bill out there, the governor's office pushed back on it. He used nearly the exact same talking points as of April of last year, very similar in language, like it was copied and pasted. But the office doesn't exist. You've got to ask yourself, is this really a legitimate concern about trade and policy and issues which I can understand having a fault for? Is this about something else when it comes to our policy with China? Let me close by saying this, because I know we are limited on time. This bill is simple. You can all see what it does easily. It doesn't change anything we're already doing. It doesn't cost us one penny. It won't change anything from yesterday to today. It won't trade one contract, one policy, one economic difference from what we've done in the past to what we're doing right now. Y'all, this ain't even a baby step in addressing the substantive issues with China. I'm not going to rehash them. You know them. Releasing COVID-19 on us by lying to scientists. human rights violations that Senator Raper greatly brought up last year from a multitude of different sources, including concentration camps of their own citizens, intellectual property where they're stealing from us and using our IP for their own purposes, multiple other issues that China does every single day against America. And this bill isn't even a baby step to address it. This is a bare minimum, a policy we already adopted to take the first of a little micro step to do something about China. I've got more aggressive bills, of course. But if we can't pass this, if we can't do it, then we just might as well admit that the state of Arkansas will not address these real issues. That's fine. I'll live it, but our kids won't. They'll address it. Our grandkids will. They'll address it. This isn't going to be a world-changing bill, but it's a small step in the right direction. If we do this, we can make
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Speaker 64 21:57
a difference. Thank you. All right, Senators, are there any questions for Senator Garner
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 22:04
on the bill? Senator Garner, I would have a question. You may or may not know it offhand. Do you happen to know how many different states actually have an office in China that's their own independent state-run, state-financed office? No, sir, not off the top of my head. Like I said, we used
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Senator Trent Garner Unverified 22:23
to have that office, we close it down, but we still do contracting, believe, with a consultant who could go over there and travel. I pared this back from even that bill last time. That would not affect the
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Speaker 65 22:34
ability of that consultant to be hired here and do that. It would just affect having
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 22:40
the office there. Have you, in your research, have you had any businesses that have contacted you or perhaps had a senator or representatives that has contacted you and advised you of any adverse impact since the closure of the office? No, sir. I have
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Senator Trent Garner Unverified 22:54
not heard of any impact. I did a quick Google search if there was anything that could be addressed to that. I saw nothing. Like I said, there are real concerns with China's policy moving forward that are outside of the
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 23:07
preview of this. All right. Thank you. If there are no questions, we do have some people signed up to speak, looks like against the bill. Senator, thank you and obviously stand by for close on the bill, proper time. The first one on the list is Director, actually Secretary Mike Preston now, to switch to transformation speak. So, Secretary Preston, you're recognized if someone's here to speak with you on the bill. And is Matt King in the room? Matt, okay, Matt, we'll take you up next, sir. Thank you for being here today. Secretary Preston, if you would, just for the record,
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Speaker 70 23:52
both of you, please state your name and your position, who you represent. Sure. Thank you, Senator, Mr. Chairman. Mike Preston, Secretary of Commerce, Executive Director,
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Speaker 72 24:02
the Arkansas Economic Development Commission. Jim Hudson,
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Speaker 73 24:06
General Counsel for AEDC. Thank you, Senator. And we are here to speak against the bill and not
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Speaker 74 24:11
here to defend China or debate China's practices in terms of their government, their structure. I am here to speak to the fact this bill does stop Arkansas from having an office to assist businesses in the largest consumer market in the world and the second largest economy in the world. We have had an office there since 2008. I do kind of want to set the record straight. When we say an office, it is either in some cases a physical office or a consultant. It's been a blend of both, and sometimes it was both. It was two people, two consultants. So if you go to where we were in April, we actually had two consultants, one who was part of the physical office and a Chinese representative there, and then we had our U.S.-based consultant who represents us in China as well. We made at that time the decision to scale back based on economic conditions, trade war, the effects of the pandemic, to go down to one consultant. So, yes, we still have an office there through a consultant. It's not a physical place we're going to go to on a day, but we call our China
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Speaker 70 25:18
consultant our China office in the same vein. Our China office represents China, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. So this individual is actually a U.S.-based citizen who travels there frequently, and we refer to that as a China-based consultant. This is done in many states. Senator, you asked the question. There's 21 states who have an office in China. When you look at where we compete for jobs and foreign direct investment, we're in the Southeastern Conference. We're in the Southeastern Conference in football and athletics, and that's where our main competition is. Ten of the 11 Southeastern Conference states have an office in China. The one that does not is Texas, which they do. There's a little bit differently. They do it run through their cities. So their large cities, Houston and Dallas, would have offices, not necessarily at a state level.
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Speaker 75 26:02
the u.s based consultant as i mentioned represents us in china hong kong and taiwan that represents
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Speaker 74 26:11
our fifth seventh and fifteenth largest export areas for our state collectively that would be fourth on our list for all exports very significant impact to our agriculture this bill would not hurt china however it could lead to retaliation to arkansas companies that do business in China. We do have 240 Arkansas companies that have a location and presence in China and is an export destination and many more who are in the supply chain. We want Arkansas to remain competitive on a global basis. Not allowing us to have an office to assist Arkansas businesses would hurt our efforts in Arkansas business. As I mentioned, many other states have these offices. We look to our competitor states that we have to stay, remain competitive. You know, make no mistake about it. This isn't about sending Arkansas tax dollars to China. This is about using the tax dollars to support Arkansas businesses, mostly small ones. There's big companies that, you know, they can fight through on their own and be able to manage the intricacies of China. It's those small businesses who are looking to do trade with China, who have some type of material in the supply chain, they run into issues that they can call us and that we can have our consultant office, whatever you call the person to assist them through this process it's to support export and trade opportunities for arkansas businesses and further our economic prosperities we can't just ignore the second largest economy in the world the largest consumer market and say that that's going to make a difference because arkansas decided to close an office it sends
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Speaker 70 27:50
a message to china but what's the message of retaliation back from china to us we'd happy to answer any questions
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Speaker 77 27:56
and so that's my testimony is against the bill. Senator Ballinger.
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Speaker 79 28:06
So if this bill passes, are you going to interpret this code as shutting down the consultant relationship that you have with the individual now
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Speaker 77 28:16
in China? I would be concerned that that's the message that the legislature is trying to send, that we don't want us to have any
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Speaker 81 28:23
relation or actions with China, and I worry about
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Speaker 79 28:26
that's where this could ultimately take it. I'm asking, obviously you'll comply with the law. Are you going to then shut down
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Speaker 86 28:33
your office there in China because you say this would apply to your consultant agreement?
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Speaker 75 28:38
That is leading down to the way that we interpret
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Speaker 86 28:42
that, yes, sir. Okay. And just hypothetical, and we've had this conversation, but I think that it's really important. If Nazi Germany was still around today,
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Would we do business with them if there was
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Speaker 74 28:59
good money in it? I don't necessarily think that's a hypothetical. I want to address that the State Department approves this on who we
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Speaker 82 29:07
can do trade with. As a state, do you feel like we are
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Speaker 89 29:11
morally culpable if we're doing business with a nation that is carrying out the Holocaust?
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Speaker 75 29:18
Senator, I'm not going to delve into that. This is
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Speaker 74 29:22
a country that has been approved by the State Department for us to do trade with. As I said, I don't want to debate the tactics or defend China or discuss that or talk about Holocaust in Germany and World War
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II. That's not what we're here to talk about. But no,
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Speaker 86 29:39
we are. I mean, that's the point of this bill, is that currently there are Uyghurs, citizens of China, who are of a minority religion, who are actually being put in labor camps.
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Speaker 79 29:52
I mean, you agree with that, right? I mean, you believe that. That's pretty widespread and been communicated, correct? Senator, that's correct.
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Speaker 74 29:59
And like I said at the beginning, I'm not here to defend China and talk about the practices. China is a country that our country has deemed that we are able to do trade with. If
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we as a state then decide that we're not going to do trade with China, then we're one of 50 states now that does not do trade because that was a decision that the
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state made. I honestly think that that's probably a debate and discussion that we should start having at some point, and maybe we are to some extent, but we're not going that far, right? We're just saying whether or not we're going to, as a state, have a permanent building located there, and honestly, I think there's a good chance this bill passes. I would be extremely careful about how you say that you interpret this language because I would see you as having a consultant doesn't seem like that would fall into what appears to be more of a brick-and-mortar location. But if that's the way you interpret it, then, frankly, as far as I'm concerned, maybe that's actually a good thing. But this, to me, seems like a relatively small step. It's something we can do to say, look, we recognize that there are people over there who are being separated from their family, who are being locked up in cages, who are being treated as animals, who are put into labor camps by this nation that we frankly are just happy to continue to do business with. And I get, like, there's a lot of money in that, and so it's not easy. I'm not saying that this is easy. But I think that we should decide whether or not we're willing to do business with Nazi Germany, right? And then we have to make that decision, like, where
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Speaker 86 31:32
do we stop? Well, I understand, not all nations have protective freedom like we do in the United States. And so there's different standards, and I get it, right? But the question
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is, you know, where do we draw the line as to when we're going to lock arms and we're going to become partakers with them We're going to give them the money that they use then to fund their operations to gather up Uyghurs, right? So I think that there is, I think that debate
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Speaker 86 31:56
is something that every Arkansan, and if you don't want to have it, I understand, but from a policymaker's standpoint, I think we have a moral obligation under God and under the citizens of Arkansas to consider that. I mean, you
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Senator Breanne Davis Unverified 32:12
can at least understand that, right? Okay. Okay. Senators, any other questions?
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 32:22
Senator Tucker. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I was having a conversation about this piece of legislation earlier today, and someone mentioned something that the specific aspect of the trade negotiations between China and the Trump administration. I was not aware of the specific piece, which is that China had to increase their imports of American agricultural products under those trade agreements by about $200 million per year. And I was just wondering if I understood that correctly, whether that's still in effect, if you have information about
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Speaker 74 32:54
that. As far as the policy stands right now, that is correct. I don't know what's going to change under the Biden administration, but certainly Arkansas stands to be a state that would benefit from that and increased products going into China. All
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Speaker 97 33:11
right. Members, any other questions? Senator Bledsoe?
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Speaker 98 33:18
I'm having a little trouble hearing with all the masks. Did you say how much Arkansas benefits from trade with China? I'd say China is
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Speaker 75 33:28
our fifth largest export destination. Hong Kong is our seventh and Taiwan is the 15th.
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Speaker 74 33:36
That's our office in China, our representative who represents us in those three. Collectively, that would be our fourth largest export destination as a country if you combine those together. And Senator, if I may, from
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Speaker 99 33:48
2017 through 2019, the aggregate value of our exports to China were just a smidge under a billion dollars. All right, thank you very much. All right, members, any
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Senator Breanne Davis Unverified 34:01
other questions? Secretary Preston, I would just, And actually, Senator Boundary did a great job
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 34:10
of talking about the consultant, because I had already written down that this would not prevent a consultant, it just prevents a brick and mortar office space or the maintaining of an office, correct? Yeah, and we can talk
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Speaker 74 34:25
about the interpretation. I'm worried that that's where it's going and sending that message that we're not allowed to, because I said, we were scaled up. Excuse me just a minute.
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 34:34
You're going much further than the language of the bill. And that
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 34:39
was the point trying to be made. It just says the commission shall not establish or maintain an office. And so a consultant, by virtue of definition, is not even an employee of AEDC. It's not an office. And so I know that it's a sensitive subject and all that, but I just want to make sure to hit that again. If
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Speaker 99 35:04
I may, Senator, I take your point on that, but the consultant
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Speaker 71 35:09
doesn't always stay in the United States. Obviously, he's traveling to mainland China, and if I may elaborate just a little bit, he may be there on an extended basis. He may be working out of an office on an extended basis.
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 35:23
Where in China was the office? Shanghai. Shanghai? Mm-hmm. Why not Hong Kong or Taiwan since it serves three different areas? that's that was the big that
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Speaker 74 35:34
was our where our consultant who was based there was lived in shanghai and that was the kind of the that is the epicenter for trade for for china if you will we're we're more focused on on trade rather than than beijing and the government side of it
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 35:52
well again i just i think it's important i mean you know sometimes you come in here and testify and you inadvertently go further than the intention of what was actually stated in the bill. So I just wanted
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 36:11
to do that. It's just puzzling to me, you know, that I would be interested to know, and we did have this debate before, and all of us know that the State Department, the Secretary of State has spoken very clearly about China, has spoken very clearly about the subversion and things that have gone on. Secretary of State for the United States actually sat in a meeting with governors from around the country and named off individual governors that they knew and had been reported that there was Chinese communist activity to influence them improperly. And so we know this is problematic. and I recall what happened in Arkadelphia. Did they not renege on their pledge for a billion dollar program for the city of Arkadelphia and our state that we were very excited about? Yes or no? They did, yes, sir. They did. So in international affairs, and again, I don't view Arkansas as the State Department, but when you look at the balance of what the action is here I don't think that if I was China and realized that somebody had reneged on a billion dollar deal for our state of Arkansas that it would hurt their feelings that much if we decided not to put up a 14 or 1500 square foot office over in China. I just I just don't know that I equate it that way. The other thing is that this bill does not prevent the Arkansas State Chamber of Commerce from establishing an office in China, does it? No, sir, but I should
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Speaker 74 37:56
point out that the Arkansas State Chamber of Commerce is opposed to this bill. They couldn't be here today, but Randy Zook wanted me to pass
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 38:02
that along. Well, that's good, but the fact is it doesn't prevent them if they wanted to do that. It doesn't prevent any private business or any association. It just says the state of Arkansas doesn't want to spend their taxpayer dollars on probably the greatest world threat to the United States of America today has been identified by our military and the State Department as the Communist China. So I just want to make sure those points are out there, okay? And I'd like to know what is it that your office can do for the businesses there that the United States State department in our embassy and our consulates could not do if there was a problem. I mean, they
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Speaker 74 38:44
can work directly with the business. Our consultant is there right now and has been there for an extended period of time to Mr. Hudson's point as well that, you know, sometimes, you know, he's going to be there for, you know, weeks at a time and it might require a temporary office space for, you know, through a region office or, you know, to be there. So So he is there working for specific Arkansas companies who have requests, wouldn't be able to divulge that information, but they're looking for business opportunities and making connections. In other ones, it's companies like you say with the Arcadelphia that reneged on a deal and we're trying to make sure that we can have a path forward on some other potential deals. There are Chinese companies that have located who have committed to their commitment like Rice Ever in Jonesboro or a TY Garments in Little Rock. And they obviously run into many issues with visa issues and other travel restrictions. Certainly it's been a lot harder during the pandemic. So that person is there to assist those companies as well. So there's
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Speaker 73 39:51
a lot that they're doing currently as we speak in their time that's in China
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right now. Okay. Well, I'm not going to belabor the point,
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 40:04
but obviously I would not be intellectually honest to sit here and act as if there's no problems. We haven't even talked about the Confucius Institute issues and the closures around the country. We haven't talked about the U of A professor that was actually arrested for basically espionage and spying here at the U of A in Fayetteville. And so I have nothing within me that would want to defend anything of what China's doing and not to mention their basic human rights abuses against the Muslim Uyghurs in China, as well as Christian churches. They bulldoze churches, they burn books, and they imprison those people. And so I tend to agree with some of my colleagues here about these problems. And again, this has nothing to do with my support of Arkansas business. I support Arkansas business. Absolutely. But you're not going to throw any baggage on that wagon of my support to say that I've got to do business with people that imprison people simply for what they believe. That's against the tenets of the republic. And so, anyway, and it's not against you either. But I want to point out, if we don't put up a brick-and-mortar office, there's nothing to prevent a consultant or you hiring 10 consultants if you still want them to be over there. And it would be interesting for me to know even how long that this person even actually is in that office. You understand? Frankly, if it was my consultant covering a billion people in China, I don't want him sitting in the office. His job is to go consult and to see people and meet people and take care of things. I think maybe we're arguing just about almost nothing. It's not even open now and no bad things have happened. So, members, are there any other questions for this particular witness?
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 42:04
Thank you, Secretary Preston. Thank you, Mr. Hudson. Mr. King, you're recognized, sir.
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Matt King Unverified 42:25
Good afternoon. My name is Matt King. I'm the Director of Governmental Affairs and Public Relations at Arkansas Farm Bureau. Mr. Chairman and committee, I appreciate the opportunity to come speak to you guys today. The Arkansas Farm Bureau is in opposition to Senator Gardner's bill, SB 252. Agriculture is the state's largest industry. The University of Arkansas estimates that about one out of every six jobs in the state is tied back to agriculture. While our farmers produce the food that we all eat every day, they produce more than what we can consume here in our country, and our farmers depend on trade. They take pride in feeding the world and do not discriminate based on political or societal benefits. In Arkansas, the USDA estimates about 36 percent of our agricultural receipts come from exports. In 2019, the USDA estimates over 60 percent of the rice that we produced here in Arkansas was exported. half the soybeans were exported, and about 12% of the chickens that we produced go into the export market. While there's no specific data on how much of these products were actually destined to China, we do know that China's the third largest export market for U.S. agricultural products. USDA reports about 18% of all of our poultry exports are destined for China. Over half of our soybeans go to China, and a growing amount of rice, thanks to the new trade deals that have been signed, are going to start going into China. We look forward to those kind of opportunities. China is such an important trading partner that I led a group of Farm Bureau leaders a few years ago on a trade mission to China to help promote Arkansas agriculture and explain the diversity in our state. It's very eye-opening when you visit with folks that they don't understand the diversity of agriculture. Here in Arkansas, many don't even realize that we produce rice, even though that would be one of the number one commodities we'll have opportunities for in China. With a growing middle class in China, they continue to demand more and more U.S. agriculture products from the grains that we produce in the Delta to the high-quality meat and poultry products that are grown in West Arkansas. Our farmers need to be able to continue to trade with China. We feel we need to keep the official Arkansas presence in China as it helps our producers and businesses when issues arise. Many companies in Arkansas have a presence there as well as many trade associations, but having that official state presence there can help us develop relationships, potentially increase exports and investment to our state, and give us that local tie-in that many people look for whenever they're looking at the export market.
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Again, I appreciate the opportunity to speak today, and I'm happy to answer any questions you
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 45:11
might have. Members, any questions for Mr. King? We appreciate you being here. I don't know, can't speak for everybody, I say most of us absolutely support Farm Bureau here in our state and worked with you and you have to understand that this is a separate issue. Yes sir. Thank you very much. Anyone else would like to speak for or against the bill? Senator Garner, would you like to close for your bill?
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I recognize, sir. When it impacted us last year, whenever COVID-19 affected us, then we knew that the Chinese
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Senator Trent Garner Unverified 45:55
Communist government was responsible for many atrocities that led that to our doors. We found out very quickly during the middle of a pandemic that we didn't have the capacity to do medical equipment at the level that we needed. that causing supplies to be low supply, demand to not be met, people to die. We've done nothing in Arkansas to address that going forward, bringing those kind of critical needs back to our state. Actually, it's going the other way. If you look in Dallas, two men started up a company called the 1836 Project to make masks for people. We're still in the middle of the pandemic. still fighting it every single day. They can't sell their masks because they can be bought at China just a little bit cheaper. This problem isn't going away. I understand the interest of the people here. Trade is very important. As you know, this won't stop one cent from being traded from a major company. But it will send a small but real message that when it comes to what we care about in Arkansas. We'll stand up for Arkansas values and our ingenuity, our ability to grow, our ability to good things, rather than to sell our future generations away when it comes to kind of things. Mr. Chairman, with that, I'm
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 47:21
closed. Thank you. Senator Bounger, I have a motion do pass with Senator Bounger. Do I have a second? I have a second. All those in favor say aye.
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 47:38
Aye. All opposed? Bill passes. Thank you, sir. You want
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 47:41
to actually do a roll call? I actually had already called it and said the bill passes Senator. I apologize for that. If you do want to force it though I would have to be happy to do it again. I just but I've called it. I typically don't go backwards and I was going to look actually that'd be a good state what's our new rule on that with that with the vote is it two hands or one I think it's just one so Senator do you want to press it Senator English you want to I'll accommodate that though I have called it but be happy to to do that if you would
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Speaker 111 48:17
Senator Maddy, prepare a roll call. Senator
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Speaker 113 48:27
Bledsoe. Senator English. Senator Hester. Senator Hester. Senator Davis. Senator Ballinger. Senator Tucker. Senator Garner.
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 48:47
Well, obviously the bill has failed. Maybe I need to have my ears cleaned out again. But I
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 48:53
thought I heard it just a little bit the other way. So, members, I would ask you on the voice of votes when you do send them, since I'm sitting so far and some of you are looking away from me, please speak up very loudly on that because it's difficult for me to hear that. Senator Garner, obviously you have the ability to bring the bill back if you want to do that. Thank you for your presentation. Thank those for coming that wanted to testify on the bill. I actually have gotten some extra time, so I'm going to go ahead and do that for right now. All right, members, we've got a few more people that are here. We've got
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Speaker 20 49:29
some that have left, or we do have... Senator Sullivan, you only have one left, sir? I think it's a resolution, correct? Resolution? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Senator Dan Sullivan Unverified 49:52
Thank you, committee. Yes, this is a kind of
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Chair Unverified 49:55
a 10th amendment. Members, I want to point their attention. It is that top one. It's the HCR 1004. Are you ready for me
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Senator Dan Sullivan Unverified 50:09
to proceed, Mr. Chair? Proceed, Senator Sullivan. Sorry about that. That's all right. Thank you. Yes, this is what we call the 10th Amendment, and if you'll, I'll go over it pretty quickly, but you can, I think you have it in front of you, and you can kind of read through it. It talks about all powers, not delegated to the United States by the Constitution. It talks about states' rights and individual rights, enumerated rights. It quotes a number of our founders and the importance of the power of the people and the power of our state. And at this time, I think in our nation's history and all that's going on, our state's rights are really important. I'll stop there and answer any questions if anyone has them. but to answer any questions if you have them.
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Senator Breanne Davis Unverified 51:14
Do you have any questions for Senator Sullivan? Seeing no questions, anyone speak for or
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 51:20
against, none signed up. Entertain a motion? Motion do pass. If a motion do pass from Senator Garner, second from Senator Boundary, all those in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed, no. Bill passes. Thank you, Senator. Thank you, committee. Members, I do not see anyone else here. Well, you know what? It's due Senator Davis. Yeah, we were prepared because I might have to leave, but I got some grace. Senator Davis, if you would be so kind, thank you for your patience. Have you got something that you needed passed out there, Senator?
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Speaker 7 52:15
And what is this? The handout. Yes. That is a list
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Senator Breanne Davis Unverified 52:21
of counties. The ones that already go ahead and submit their ballots to VoterView, which is the Secretary of State's website that they use to post sample ballots. And then the ones that do not, and the ones that gave comment as to why they do
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not. I just wanted that just so that
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 52:42
I could have that on the record, what we passed out. So, Senator Davis, you're recognized for presentation of your
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Senator Breanne Davis Unverified 52:49
bill. Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the committee. This bill, all it does is requires counties to post sample ballots on VoterView on the Secretary of State's website. Currently, 55 out of 75 of the counties do this already. This will just require everyone to do it. We know that transparency is a very important part of our election process. and also a convenience factor for the public being able to go online ahead of time, look and see what their ballot will look like when they actually get to the polls so that they have an idea of how they want to vote or if there are candidates or issues that they want to research before they head to the polls. In fact, one Republican election commissioner in Pulaski County, Christy Starr, and she is a supporter of this bill and she mentioned that posting the sample ballots online in Pulaski County actually helped them identify an error in one of the ballots this year that they were then able to address before the election. So this is something that counties are already preparing and they say it takes about 90 seconds to process each ballot to get it online and Pulaski County has you know probably I I think the most ballots in the state, somewhere near 600 different ballots that they post. This takes them a day or two. They're already doing it. And so for most counties, it wouldn't take that long. The Secretary of State's office is in full support of this. The Association of Counties is supportive. The State Board of Elections is supportive. And the Association of Counties reached out to all the county clerks, and no one raised any objection. There is no cost to this bill. It's already being done. and the software already exists. So we're just trying to help it be uniform for all 75 counties across the state. I'll take any questions at this time. Senator
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Speaker 131 54:46
Ballinger. Why do you hate Newton County?
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Senator Breanne Davis Unverified 54:54
I love them. Any other questions? Seeing none, do I have a motion? Motion do pass for Senator Tucker and a second for Senator English. All those in favor
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 55:10
say aye. All opposed, no. Thank you. Thank you, committee. Members, if you'll hold briefly, I believe we have some action on the bill for Senator
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Speaker 7 55:20
Hendren, correct? I'm sorry, speak up. You have the amendment, but...
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 55:28
Well, you're prepared to run it for him, aren't you, Senator English? let's look at that see if we can't fix it up for him because this is supposed to be very very simple amendment and personal privilege
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Speaker 63 55:41
mr chairman colonel sorry personal privilege right proper time okay uh
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 55:46
colonel wood stepped out for some reason i'd be happy if staff would want to see if colonel wood is here because again we were trying to be accommodating he's made the trip made the effort he's waited and and I've even postponed my meeting for all this so pardon just pardon me just a minute I've got a point of personal privilege and I want to keep him where
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Speaker 122 56:13
he can say that Senator Garner yes sir I don't know if this is personal privilege
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Speaker 140 56:17
but I've worked with Colonel Woods on this so I prepare to talk about it more depth if needed okay Okay. Well,
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 56:24
that's great. Well, I hate for him not to be sitting here. Let's see if staff is able to locate him here just second members and this shouldn't take very long. And I appreciate you staying here working through this and getting folks taken
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Speaker 142 56:46
care of. It's tough to come up
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Speaker 143 56:49
here when we've got these restrictions.
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Speaker 86 56:53
So. Okay. Mr. Chair, my motion was to expunge the vote on which SB 252 failed. If the sponsor can bring it back, work with people and get things worked
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Speaker 79 57:06
out, I just want him to have
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 57:08
the ability to... Without objection, so ordered. Typically, just members know that we and our committees have absolutely allowed members in Insurance and Commerce over the years to come back, but that is a proper motion. and we have actually just done it as a matter of courtesy. But if it failed, I believe it was twice, I believe, in my other committee, then that was it. We didn't like to go again. Colonel Woods, if you would come and appreciate you holding on tight through all this. We have stayed here just for all your benefit, and so Senator Hendren has been indisposed in another committee. So I want to recognize, if we'll take it back to formal order, Senator English, if you'd just state your name and get you to do so.
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Senator Jane English Unverified 57:56
Senator English, District 34. Colonel Jeff Wood, Arkansas National Guard.
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Senator Mark Johnson Unverified 58:02
Colonel, thanks for being here. You're recognized, Senator English. Okay,
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Senator Jane English Unverified 58:05
this is an amendment, an agreed upon amendment. Without objection, the amendment is
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 58:10
adopted. Thank you. You're recognized for presentation of the bill. Okay, the rest of
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Senator Jane English Unverified 58:15
it is the, I don't have a copy of the bill, but it's the Soldiers and Sailors Relief Act, basically. Mr. Chairman, this is a
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Speaker 148 58:23
bill, I think, that ran last week, and Senator Garner and Senator English wanted us to change some language. It did say six months, and they pointed out kind of a loophole in there, so we went back and changed it to where the soldiers' primary residence, it's not someplace they have to have lived for six months. It's what's ever in their military record, And what we did in the amendment is we listed the official Army record repository, the Air Force, and kind of a catch-all in case I missed anything. So that way the soldier can just pull an official military document and say, hey, this is my primary residence and get the benefit of it. It was a really good amendment and it makes it a better bill. Very good.
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 59:03
Members, do you have any questions at all on this? Seeing no questions, I
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Senator Breanne Davis Unverified 59:09
have a motion from Senator Garner. Do pass. I have a second from Senator Tucker. All those in
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Senator Jason Rapert Unverified 59:15
favor say aye. All opposed, no. And the bill passes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator Hendren, it'd be best if you did that all the time. You just, but thank you, Colonel Woods, and thank all of you members for your work today. And with that, we're adjourned until Tuesday.
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CALL TO ORDER

0:17

HCR1004 Bentley CONCERNING THE CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY VESTED IN THE PEOPLE, THE STATES, AND THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.

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SB163 J. English TO CREATE THE ARKANSAS MILITARY AFFAIRS COUNCIL ACT; TO ESTABLISH THE MILITARY AFFAIRS GRANT PROGRAM; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.

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SB188 A. Clark TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING POLLING PLACES; AND TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING ELECTIONEERING.

11:20

HB1153 Ladyman TO AMEND THE ARKANSAS EMERGENCY SERVICES ACT OF 1973 CONCERNING THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF THE DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

5:32

HB1117 Wardlaw CONCERNING THE DIVISION OF CORRECTION INMATE FARM FUND.

2:31

HB1202 A. Collins TO AMEND ELECTION LAWS; TO AMEND PUBLICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR ELECTIONS; AND TO REQUIRE PUBLICATION OF SAMPLE BALLOTS ON AN INTERNET SITE.

55:04

SB252 T. Garner TO PROHIBIT THE ARKANSAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FROM ESTABLISHING OR MAINTAINING AN OFFICE IN CHINA.

15:36

SB258 Bledsoe TO AUTHORIZE NONMANDATORY MULTIYEAR REGISTRATION AND LICENSING BY THE CONTRACTORS LICENSING BOARD.

8:50

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