ALC-Review

Yes I'm seventy six. Make sure don't for myself all. Nine. All right everybody if you want to take your seats are gonna get this meeting started. I want to welcome everybody to the review subcommittee today Senator Flippo for those you have not been here before looking for to co chairing this year with representative Bragg and representative under this your first time you know coach and review so if you've got any comments we have here for you look forward to it and I know we have a in the agenda for the next couple of meeting so we're ready to get on with it. All right all right so members for we get started I know that Kathy's going to go over the rules that need to be adopted that there's are the same rules we've had for the last two years so there's no material changes there but I'm what counties can briefly go through those who quit on them and in a motion to adopt. Thank you Mr chair of the rules for this committee there are just a few things on them number two there is talking about the placement of items on the subcommittee agenda we were we were required that items be submitted to the committee. By a ten days prior to the meeting we get most of our information from transformation and shared services office of state procurement and we get some things from the FAA accounting and then some items grants are sent to the committee directly from the agencies that are submitting them up if an item is not received in time to be placed on our tentative agenda would you will receive your tentative agendas a week prior to our meeting dates and we always meet on Tuesday of the week of counsel if something is not on that agenda and an agency needs something on an agenda we can add it to a supplemental agenda if they provide us with a letter stating why they miss the current agenda and why they can't wait until the next time that we have a regularly scheduled meeting and then it would be up to the committee to then decide to suspend the rules take that item up at the meeting we also receive monthly reports all of the items that we receive in this committee are review items very very very rarely would we have an approval item and if so I'll make sure to note that for the committee everything for this committee is review and then we have a series of reports that we receive each month those are reports that are being provided to the committee of actions that have been taken by O. S. P. of without the necessary review by will the legislature however you all at any time can pull anything off of the report report that you'd like to questions of and then also we do a consideration of office of state procurement rules few years ago. Is in the procurement law and one of them was that any of rules or regulations that office of state procurement puts in place would need to be reviewed by this committee prior to them being adopted by the A. L. C. rules subcommittee so we meet on Tuesday in the rules from OSP would come to us on Tuesday and they would be on the rules agenda on Wednesday and so that is basically the rules up for adoption by this committee today that are on the agenda. All right members you heard explanation of that can I get it I got a motion to adopt. All right got a motion the second all in favor. Opposed. Rules been adopted all right members and with that we'll move into the to the agenda the first item on our agenda will be methods of finance we receive these items from the office of the FAA of Office of accounting and these are going to be for projects for construction anything over two hundred fifty thousand dollars that has not been previously approved by the legislature so when we were in session you all receive some capital projects and made those improvements for appropriations for those these would be any of the projects outside of that scope that you've already approved are of they'd also be for amendments to revisions to that as a finance the first thing you find is a letter it night and the page one this is a letter from. Mr Lethlean and this is the items that they are submitting from office of accounting for today's review and then we have a chart on the next page the first one is the Arkansas state police for their troop B. headquarters in Newport the third column or I guess the fourth column shows the initial cost of the methods of finance and the of the estimated total projected costs when they first entered into it we are today are looking at the of this. CQB six column over the revised total so they are revising their method of finance to a little over five million three hundred forty three dollars and state up and they state that this project which is for their new port headquarters is going to be funded under bond proceeds the second one there is for Black River technical college this is an original method of finance for their various projects for deferred maintenance maintenance and met renovation projects a million fourteen thousand two hundred five hundred twenty eight and the agency reports that they have deferred maintenance reserves to fund that project in that amount. You a division of agriculture has two number three and four for the Newport extension office and that one is being revised to a million eight hundred fifty one thousand seven forty they know that they have unexpended plant in Agra reserves which we used to fund the project and then number four is they're building a three sixty insurance replacement and this is right to replace the storage building they lost due to fire and they have a five hundred thousand dollars from insurance proceeds that they will use for the replacement of that building. On the next page number five is you a community college hope Texarkana for energy saving projects they have a variety of projects including their workforce training center on the Texarkana campus of a seat and hope and seller lab to support the solar energy technology on the hope campus up five million dollars they have a variety of funds that are being used bank loan college savings bond revolving fund loan as well as a grant for this project. Next we have UAMS of they have three they're the first one is for the internal medicine space it's a million three hundred three thousand six ninety nine they have clinical revenues and reserves to fund it you a mess for their teaching kitchen redesign of their generations cafe in the institute of aging and culinary medical medicine teaching kitchen three hundred thousand dollars they have a federal grant that is going to fund forty two percent of that project and foundation funds for the remainder and then you have clean up and restoration from flood recovery and that's two million dollars and they know that they had insurance proceeds to cover that you A. P. B. has number nine layers and hall renovation and that seven million eight hundred fourteen thousand to fifty nine from federal grant and then on the next page the Walker research all in a research facility and that's adding space for the minority research center three nine thirteen thousand thirty four dollars that and this will be funded through the tobacco set aside the tobacco settlement funding initiative. You see a has the final three for our air quality improvements on various buildings thirteen point five million dollars and they have capital reserves reimbursed from the American rescue plan act of federal grant to cover that they have various campus improvements nine point five million dollars with agency back bank funds to cover that and then finally E. and G. renovations for the communication science disorders and fine arts three million dollars with a capital reserves to cover those costs those are all the methods of finance on today's agenda. All right members and four Forrester with any questions I want to recognize representive Wardlaw you got a question reserve what what state are you in are you sixty eight. She said okay. Thank you Mr can we get someone from state police to the police yeah we got somebody from state police here. Of all just moved that we held number one to Friday so they can show up an answer because okay. We will pull that out thank you Sir and then sixty eight is that you representative Cavenaugh yes thank you Senator Flippo my question is for you of a if I have somebody come down answer questions I've got two questions okay. Yes all. Let's the Rebecca. Acari. You know which which is that the number five and number nine you obey. contract zero four seven seven nine and you have a hope in pine bluff right. I tried appear to the front there and if you go ahead and. Give us your name and tell your tell us here with for the record then you're recognized Percy represent kennel your question I thank I Mark Clark on the chance for you I hope you can. Over here ma'am. Hello to read thank you thank you have a a contract here and it's for energy savings projected construction is says that is going to projected cost is eight point four million dollars the initial cost was five million dollars how much savings are we getting off of this eight point four million dollars so the annual savings is regarding our seller right we're expected to have two hundred and. I turned thirty thousand dollars and is guaranteed our first year savings from that. Okay. Let me make a follow up Mr rest for. So we're going to spend eight point four million dollars to save two hundred and thirty thousand. Yearly so the solar array is a one megawatt solar field that will project energy cost annually and I know in the first year they X. they anticipate to earn thirty thousand dollars in annual energy cost savings with our of course with our energy upgrades and so those savings are going to be paying toward that note the solar array The New. Thirteen thousand square foot building on the techs can a campus the seller lab that supports the solar educational programs the only one in the state of Arkansas and our energy upgrades. Mr Jeremiah. Read for more followers and double so two hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year to pay for an eight point four million dollar loan how long is that going to take. I believe along this for fifteen years I don't think it pays off the. Thank you. All right all right there we got a couple more questions seat number seventy four that is. Thank you Mr chair What's the project a lifespan of this solar array I believe it's thirty years thirty years thank you. All right nine seed seventy five. Thank you Mr this may be. I was doing something different back in the bag but that number three U. of a division of ag so I have a question about that the program. We might hear from Division of axes. And really I can go and ask this question is maybe it's staff and help me with this since I'm kinda new to this committee but like online three and we're on page two item B. says the initial cost is eight hundred seven eight hundred thousand seven fifty estimated total project cost is eight hundred thousand seven fifty but then it over to the right is as current revised total is one million eight hundred fifty one thousand I'm just trying to figure out. If the project cost was a hundred thousand how to jump up to the minute million and maybe I'm not understanding this form quite. Yes some clarification a lot of times when we receive a method of finance worst receiving an initial call to work with an architect engineer people to determine kind of what the project cost would be and then they then they look for a funding for it and unfortunately we don't change of the estimated total project the cost from the first time they submit it so a lot of times they're submitting it for an amount that would be for an architect or engineer then they tell on how much the the facilities going to calls they maybe go and sell bonds are raise money something like that they and then they come back and revise it and so unfortunately it does not reflect a change in when they determine that that will actually cost more than they initially so when it says estimated total project cost that's really not the total project cost no Sir it's its total project cost at the time of the initial. The finance. Okay. I guess that answers it thank you for coming down anyway thank you Mr chairman. Thank you representative got representative Cavenaugh. There is a cap no did you have a question thank you Mr yes this is for a number nine Mister chair you of a pine bluff. Okay so when you get to the. To prevent all. If you just ride up to the the frantic about the side right there yes Sir. Nope keep on coming given or. There you go as I see it right here in the front seats and there's a you're the microphone on any bill just introduce yourself and tell us here with for the record. Good evening my name is Jeffrey trust some with the universe of Arkansas pine bluff in director for facilities management our thank you Sir represent cattle you're recognized for a question thank you Mr chair I'm over here to your right thanks on this is a foreign hall renovation it originally had been projected to be three million dollars but it's more than doubled now at seven point eight million dollars why such the increase. Initially when it took this project to be looked at we did a. Brief survey. this project has graduated from two thousand thirteen We look at it and several different aspects. But the last of. Reporter has been done was conducted by a M. are they physically came through and walk through the building and determined that this building which at one point time we look at it too to the actual store to. Which the bill down. So there are some infrastructure conditions that have would you appoint a microphone just a little bit closer some okay there's some infrastructure conditions that had to be met during that time so after looking at it again the the big basically goes back to what we were saying we had a brief look at the building the method of finance has been established this particular matter finance is going to be out of state government for our finance. The radio. Grant government grant. Up again it goes back to this building had been looked upon to be pushed out we went back through the building and recognize that the infrastructural changes that are going to have to be met based on the of these requirements that to make this building a sign top. Per se so those numbers will reflect based on the new pricing so um the reality is what's happening now COVID nineteen has changed and conditions as well the prices that we're getting today Mayberry will have to be looked at again just give an example a two by four today may cost you thirteen dollars the two by four by eight feet long Those prices were done some of those numbers were maybe three dollars her two by four so we're going to see a difference in the numbers and we may see another change so I would hope that we don't have to do this building And phases Vaught Mr chair recognized for fall so are you knocking the building down now or are you renovating the building no the building is set to be renovated and it's set to be a science how per se we have a science and technology okay thank you. Thank you representative all right I think it's representive fault of your seat seventy thank you're recognized for a question thank you Mr chair on a number ten the. The tobacco settlement grants aid. Okay I just the. What is the research call what are you all research there can you tell me is it something to do with the tobacco. I think your documents are the may be better equipped to them give you all the details but it is going to be a research facility for tobacco. in studies. And there's a button on your microphone their doctor if you wanna get that'll let their ego and it will give us your name until so you're with for the record yes good afternoon my name is Ben school more because of it I am vice chancellor for research innovation and economic development universal Arkansas pine bluff. So this building is Walker is or send to adults is that disincentive for a long long time but the the main purpose of the one was less really fulfilled at this moment because the bill the tool Neal buildings the moved most of Tennessee's that used to be done there the move that to a different to science buildings so many of the rules in this. building need to be renovated because of it this tobacco Fund you have to program my new to disincentive and divisions locate the pine bluff of dog pump I will and the minor to the should have which is off campus also you have a. Could I do it starmedia so all these the places they were basically he's got those and there was no senator geo collaboration could be done if the move all these involved please that is the only thing he came up with that building even though the name is stuck there is surge building but that is the very old today so you are the person that phone for this tobacco settlement funds. You Mr. All right thank you doctor once that we got Senator Elliott. You're recognized now I thank you Mr chairman I want to be sure that you know I'm clearly understanding not number nine I just want to just restate what I what I understand about it as I I'm a bit familiar with Larson hall and I'm very familiar with it need it needs work so does my impression from just checking into this is that you're going to do some of the renovation with the amount of money that you had but you got additional federal funds and now you can make that complete renovation is is that correct. Yes ma'am that is correct and further this is just I'm just going now from what I know from what's been happening I know with the with the A human sciences and fisheries and agriculture we have wanted you have the fishery are a kind of Education in the state and that. You were either going to have to look at expanding that or building another building or may be folded into this renovation I never changes so that you could accommodate the fishery and agriculture rather that even thinking about building another building is that what's going to happen here. That is projected plan yes ma'am okay all right so well that's the case I appreciate your rather than looking at some other holding building and getting everything done in this one that makes sense in a logical use of the money I think and I'm on number ten where you said you had three different bill the the research is being done in three different buildings scattered around different places is that correct our goal of building three programs do my new two six which is involved on I have a and minority initiative you have to read the SOP contacts all over our current yes do you know basically goal and you know make the people of Iraq to smoke and kill and the other one is graduate study group if you have a good idea to students and get through and then go get. Jobs related to smoking okay so the this is what I was talking to be moved from the that was like a decision lasers phys other thing since the bill to tool Neil hostilities he is because academic wasn't true they moved up to all those this is from that building would you be and that's what I was saying you consolidating yes yeah all right then we're on the same page and all right thank you thank you very much thank you senator. All right represented something that's you in forty seven is that correct yes all right you're recognized for a question about my questions for you M. S. okay generally or excuse thank you we somebody from thank you so much. You M. S.. Melissa. Welcome back Murray's. Thank you Mr chairman you go against your name well they are here with for the record though restricts B. UAMS. All right representative makes you're recognized president western thank you Sir my my questions related to the length of the flood and the Walker tower that looks like cost two million dollars worth of damage I'm just curious as to the the backstory on that and what caused it and what is being done to prevent a repeat of that in the future yeah thanks for the question yes we had some pipes on some joints that just failed and the of gateway to cause a flood so we're actively working to replace all of those pipe joints so that doesn't happen again so that's they did they were in need of replacement and we hadn't had a chance to get to them and so yea because two million dollars of damage and be covered by insurance but we're actively trying to get to have it had of it so it doesn't happen again so as an aging infrastructure eight songs like the Asian infrastructure and so we've definitely committed to a maintenance program to make sure that it doesn't happen again because especially in the Cancer Institute we have a lot of research going on a lot of sensitive equipment that we do not want to have damage so so we are definitely working to upgrade that critical infrastructure to protect the investment that you all as a General Assembly have been vested into our campus all right thank you Sir thank you Mr. Thank you for. Thank you Mr Rigby all right members so we're going to hold out contract number one for the state police and then without objection that the other items will stand as reviewed. At. Mr chairman the next group of items on our agenda are grants these are discretionary grants where an agency has a is there discretion to of who to provide the grant strict to if it's not in law or regulation then if it's over ten thousand dollars it needs to come over here for review these are submitted directly to the subcommittee from the agencies that are making the the grants the first graders from the health department. They have three on the first page on the first one there is an amendment to an existing grant adding sixty thousand dollars and this is a grant for breast cancer screenings there through a mobile mammography. Program and number two is also an amendment for sixty thousand dollars and this is for increased breast and cervical cancer screening this is for uninsured and underinsured women number three is for comprehensive burn out reach program that's an original grant for fifty thousand dollars the next group of grants come from the apartment Human Services they have several the first one there is the first two are for early head start community hub assistance they're both amendments to that the third one is an amendment for the mental health council of Arkansas for their annual behavioral health institute numbers four through eight are all going to be for improving quality of life for adults with disabilities these are funded by other funds which are from the state income tax check off program of that takes us to grant number nine over on page five this is for of employment and training program to help eligible supplemental nutrition assistance program recipients number ten and eleven or for respite voucher program provided by the Arkansas lifespan respite grant those are all of the grants for DHS and then finally we have grants today for casa Arkansas court appointed special advocates of cost of programs in Arkansas recruit train supervise community volunteers advocate for abused and neglected children of the national casa Association in Arkansas cost to require all program passed a rigorous quality assurance process based on state national standards these grants can be used to pay salaries and related costs for program staff to recruit supervise and manage volunteer. Years of travel expenses rent utilities and other kinds of expenses that cost the Mahdi counter of what you'll see are each of the judicial districts are showing the agency receiving the funding the counties that they serve the amount from the grant from the state that they're being provided and then the percentage of the agency's total budget that comes from those of state funds being provided to them and then finally a list of their other funding sources they do a lot of local fundraising and grants and foundations to supplement there are three pages of those odds a total of one million seven hundred fifty thousand dollars in funding this being provided through costs and so those are the grants on today's agenda. All right thank you Kathy representative Wardlaw you're recognized for a question Sir. I'm sorry representative Cavenaugh. And who is your question for what this I'm sorry thank you Mr this is for DHS but it's just a real quick question that they can probably just provide me after the fact which is on contracts for five six seven and eight if I can just find out if staff to get it for me the number of citizens that these contracts are serving the number individuals that they're serving. Party got that okay yeah to get up with. All right that we got See number fifty three that you senator Chesterfield yes Sir you're recognized as to your question thank you Mr chair mine is a quick question is will I'm hearing about these advocates for children but I'm getting on an increased number of calls from senior citizens who are who's written gone up and they're about to lose their homes because they cannot afford these increases do we have someone in DHS to work specifically with senior citizens to make sure that they're not being gallons in that that their needs are being met and to home when I go in order to address that. Mark can you can you give us Senator centerfield offline or after this you know we had a down and thank you answer that thank you senator. All right members see no further questions without objection these items will stand as reviewed. The next item agenda on the agenda are contracts services contracts we received these from the office of state procurement in addition to receiving the contracts we received a letter from Mr Armstrong and that letter is on the one and it states that none of the contracted other submitted today appear on their face to be unlawful and are therefore submitted for review Mr Armstrong would point out to the committee if we saw any contracts or if he had any contracts coming over that have been pro tested all right had any are needed to be ratified are any kind of other problems that have been encountered with those contract that he felt like that needs to be pointed out to the committee he would do that are the first group of contracts that we look at our construction related contracts and a lot of these are going to be for on call contracts that agencies have in place in case they have a project or an emergency or something comes up if they have a specific project that they are doing they will they would need to bid that but these on call contracts are available if something comes up and they need the first or for a issue Jonesborough in the first four or actually on call contracts that they have for architects and landscaping a and services number five is for the correction department and this is an on call for architectural and engineering services number six is Pulaski tech this is a specific project it is to renovate the existing classroom space in the existing science building next you're gonna be contracts for you a fait it bill they have several long call contract the first is for architectural services number eight there for you a fable is a specific project it's for the student success center numbers nine to eighteen are all going to be on call for a variety of so. Billings you nearing of architect geo technical contracts of those types of things I will note that we're going to see on page sixty two in our in state contracts I believe there is one additional one that is for you a fable that's a geotechnical that was mislabelled and so it's not in the right place on the agenda but I did want to point out that there was one additional one that we'll see later on that takes us to page seven to contract number nineteen there for you a Peavey again this is for us specific project. This is for the architectural services for the Larson hall project which we talked about and looked at the imho elf earlier for that project so those are all the construction related contracts. All right members not seen any questions and see no objections these items will stand as reviewed. The next group of contracts are aggrieved as inter governmental this is where an agency is contracting with another state agency our governmental agency and they're able to use the intergovernmental procurement method of to procure those services so the first one is the correction department with UAMS and this is the original contract or the risk assessments and our risk reassessments of juvenile court the next one is department of commerce for the Department of transformation and shared services for the apprenticeship application program nexus education with the state of Kansas this is an amendment to a contract they have or administering the D. L. M. assessments to students in grades three through high school number four is education with UAMS this is to develop and implement an evaluation plan of for the notice of funding opportunity next is education department for online college and career readiness system of then you have some for the health department the first one there is health department with UAMS in this is to improve the health of our Kansans through evidence based health policy research program development and public issue advocacy statewide the next one is for providing physician consultation and coordination of referrals and tracking and monitoring of follow up services for the Arkansas department of health newborn screening program. number eight is for the health department with you A. L. R. and this is for technical services to implement the women infants and children baby in the parenting program unex is health department with UAMS to promote a long term sustainability reimbursement to and develop a community health worker infrastructure in Arkansas number ten is the health department with UAMS or physician specialists to continue provide leadership in preparation programs that respond to natural and man made events and disasters. Next is health department with UAMS and this is for the medical director for the Arkansas department of health office of health information technology and state health alliance and record exchange that's doctor golden number twelve is the health department with UAMS for trauma image repository will of four time real time access to images for Arkansas trauma patients and number thirteen health department UAMS four of environmental scan for health department as part of the contract close out the liberal bills required by DHS Division of medical services and then number fourteen is higher read with you CA for the Perkins portal development number fifteen is DHS the first one UAMS providing emergency medical surgical services for the state hospital patients on the next page number sixteen the H. S. with UAMS for protective services or adult female victims of domestic abuse and their children number seventeen DHS with a issue Jonesborough for early childhood technical assistance services. The H. as with UAMS for providing training and technical assistance early care and education providers focused on family engagement number nineteen DHS with you a fateful for Arkansas partnership for public child welfare management and DHS with you A. L. R. for staff education and training. Number twenty one DHS with UAMS for a continued child abuse and neglect training for helping professionals number twenty two with UAMS for continued sexual rehabilitative programs diagnosis assessment and outpatient therapy for DCFS S. clients. DHS with UAMS for family treatment service services incest offender treatment and not offender caretaker treatment services DHS with UAMS number amendment seven for contract number twenty four on page seventeen for providing financial reporting and analysis or Medicaid programs waivers and grants and DHS number twenty five with UAMS for continued behavioral health in psychiatric consultation services number twenty six is tobacco settlement commission and this is a contracted up it's a new contract but it's renewal of services with UCLA for evaluation services for the seven programs funded by the Arkansas tobacco settlement commission through to the tobacco proceeds Act of two thousand those are all of the inter governmental contracts on today's agenda. All right representative Cavenaugh who is your question for. Thank you Mr chair of the department of the H. S. okay smoking DHS. Welcome back mark you're familiar with the routine if you give us your name and who you're with for the record. Thank you Mr Clark what for him services represent kennel you're recognized procedure question to Mister chair thank you for coming this is going to be on nineteen and twenty which is going to be on page fifteen. It is dealing with the contract with you of a flight bill and you I of Little Rock. Dealing with a division of child and family services what physically do these contracts do. L. offered this morning on that question from my thank you. Good afternoon I'm Mr Martin on the Director of the Division of Children and Family Services and represent cannot answer questions on number nineteen you have a does all of our field training for new family service workers they then subcontract out with other universities I'm for that field training and then on number twenty they do all that the University of Arkansas at little rock the mid south contract they do all of our classroom training for our new workers and supervisors as well as that contract includes film screenings for area three and six so those two areas are not included in the number nineteen all right Mister recognized for follow so on contract number nineteen I wanna make sure I understand we have paid you have a fate bill twenty one million dollars to train our workers. That's at field training so like that yes that's correct the person is actually in our office in doing that follow up to that classroom training that is a hundred percent federal dollars that we use for those trainings forty dollars you can follow up. More from the president okay I have a. I have a concern and I'm going to voice it is that someone who has a shelter that they're the president of and we're seeing the influx of children coming in because of the abuse of code because of the would be on the rise that were having because the abuse of children during the call would pandemic. We're seeing children that are never being contacted by their case workers. And they're being left in the shelters without anything being done with it so the training that they're getting isn't working it's either because we're not having enough workers and they're overwhelmed and it might be but the bottom line is we have abused children who still are being abused in the system and when I see a spending this kind of money for training and I know personally of children that it's not helping it just gets my goat is the best way to say it. Representative Cavenaugh at at and familiar with your issues I would love to work directly with your shelter and understand better about that those kids not seeing their workers and having the staff that they need we track and have been pretty intense as you are aware about use of the shelter and shelter as the absolute last resort we also not only track how long kids have been in the shelter but we track how many kids are in the shelter after fourteen days because there is a move to place children with family relatives and really the shelter placement as of the last resort I know you're asking about training but I just be very curious to look at that specific shelter work with you on some of the concerns that you're having I agree this does look like a large amount of money for training and training is one piece of the pie when it comes to rip retention and while this money does go to you have a it is got subcontracted out through other universities across the state to then provide that feel training at the local level and we're regularly looking at the quality and and how do we improve so not only do they get classroom but they also get in the office training that yes we're happy to look at it it's much more complicated than just training they'll say there is a disconnect between what is happening in the field and what you think is happening I'm just telling you and you can sit there and you can tell me your on top of it but from someone who's living it every day there is a disconnect thank you and represent have not just respectfully follow up with I didn't say that we don't have issues and we currently are facing an increased number of children in foster care and I and I am connected with what happens in the field and we do face many problems I'll just say that training is just one part of that issue that we face on hiring and retention and having a quality workforce it has been a very difficult year at DCFS am we but training is one piece of a much bigger issue that we face in child welfare. Thank you all right representative makes. Here's a question for education okay. Mark mission thank you somebody here from education. Yeah number four. The minimum five four five just under five okay. Welcome to give us your name and who you're with and representation be recognized procedure questions. Thank you Mr chairman John key part of the education thank you Greg Rogers former education thank you John other questions I have it on number five here the university of Oregon looks like we're spending a million dollars with them and it just says for technical and general services on or if you tell us what exactly what that is that we're spending a million dollars with the university of Oregon and if that is something that. Our universities wouldn't be able to provide us. We have the the expert to awesome this morning will address that thank you. That special but there you go good afternoon Rachel horn director of curriculum and assessment it is actually a college and career readiness tool it is one of six vendors that we utilize for districts have a choice in meeting the needs of their students and developing their plan for college and career. Okay so this is a a software program an online program or what what exactly is it's an online platform and district had a selection between one of six centers and they made that selection for a three year commitment last year so districts review the options available to them and the majority of them are online platforms and then they utilize that to provide career development and career readiness planning for students in their districts follow up requests for follow are are there are universities in Arkansas that provide that and the school districts just chose to go with the Oregon one or is the organ one able to provide the. Options that are universities couldn't provide what what what what made the Oregon university I think you see what I'm getting at why are we going to Oregon one of US foreign relations we we use a procurement process and we utilized and the benders that were available so it's important to know that the university of Oregon is just the the a provider that actually the product is called into careers and so it's a piece that is funded through the university of Oregon but we did it utilize that procurement process okay all right thank you. Right. Thank you guys we have no more questions all right members seem more questions without objection those items will stand as reviewed. Mr chairman the next group of contracts are are out of state contracts and they begin on page twenty. The first it to or for DFA the first one is for The S. A. P. budget and planning implementation project an original contract for that the second one is DFA and this is for software and hardware infrastructure in the hardware supplies maintenance and support for all DFA state revenue offices to print driver's license and ID number three is Department transformation shared services building authority for security guard services AT Fort Smith offices next is Education Department with A. C. T. for assessment testing grade eleven our next is education department with A. C. T. for us fire testing grades three through ten. Number six and seven are for online college and career planning systems Number eight is education an amendment for design in training on use program quality assessment. Number nine Education for organizing in maintaining a technical advisory committee for the department to meet all federal requirements for assessments and accountability. Number ten education department for another one for that online college and career planning system number eleven is of physical occupational speech therapy to this is for the school for the blind for their students number twelve is the health department for storage of the US system and records request portals this is the hardware to allow for that number thirteen is Henderson state university in this is to hire qualified consulting firm to provide financial aid of solutions. Number fourteen and fifteen or both for the Highway and Transportation Department for retirement for management services for asset managers number sixteen is Human Services. And this is for Arkansas State Hospital like chronic health records and patient billing system number seventeen is for camera maintenance and service at the Arkansas Health Center number eighteen health department this is an amendment for continued development of County profiles number nineteen this is gonna be one of several contracts that we're gonna have or variety of services that they provide this one is for home studies number twenty is for adoption summaries number twenty one on page twenty seven is or supervised independent living number twenty two is another amendment for in home services number twenty three also an amendment for in home services number twenty four is an amendment to an existing contract for data mining and program evaluation number twenty five is a contract of for the Arkansas Works program evaluation number twenty six is out medical management information system pharmacy system an amendment to that contract number twenty seven of number twenty seven it's DHS Senate bill note on this one the announcmenet for amendment three which you're looking at today is zero and typically we don't see contracts that have a zero dollar amount they're actually reported to the committee but there are a couple of contracts that I want to point out there are zero dollar amounts but they're on today's agenda OSP is sent them to us because there is a material change in on both of these of they have added a fraud and abuse prevention and loss of for the program and so that's a material change that requires legislative review. Number twenty eight through thirty these are all going to be for the insurance department and they're for contracts for Arkansas Works archer if you actuarial services. Number thirty one a on page thirty one is for the military department to for nursing services number thirty two parks and tourism this is a contract that they have for mailing services number thirty three U. a fait it bill this is or early childhood education a grant that they received for shared resources knowledge of number thirty four at go back to thirty three I'm sorry thirty three is the first one that we have on today's agenda that's a new contract that the sole source of under procurement S. S. yet SSJ that sole source justification and for the committee each time you receive a contract that is either sole source are special I will provide you with the letter that I was P. has provided to the committee of why they have approved that type of procurement and these are printed on today there on the light yellow paper pages one through three or the letter that go along with this particular contract again I said this is a contract for education grant of and the justification on this is that they are the only source available for comprehensive online resource designed to support this project so they were given authority you sole source justification number thirty four U. a fait it bill of this is a contract for continuation of media by execution and maintenance of marketing campaign L. it significantly more than the original contract but I want to point out this is for three years of this contract typically we see one or two years but this one is for three years for a continuation of their media by a maintenance and marketing campaign number thirty five and thirty six are both going to be contracts for you a system And the first one is an amendment to an existing contract this is for a continuation of services dealing with Deploying their workday product the HR and finance They are amending this contract and they had to do this because it covid UAMS needs in another additional year of course the because of that they had some other things going on and so they need some more time to get up and going for the change so that's the amendment on the first contract the second contract is implementation of the student info for the work day contract the the Committee will remember that we saw the work a contract if you years ago here in this committee of and this is for all of the campuses for their student information and those contracts are actually being funded by the individual universities hi number thirty seven as you a fait it bill this is an amendment to an existing contract for providing leadership in European operations to the sustainability consortium you a fait it bill this is for prevention education and regulatory compliance online learning modules solutions project number thirty nine U. a fable for the Hudson Hudson institute of coaching this is for coaches refresher sessions group coaching supervision this is for early early childhood care training and it's from a grant for that you a fait it bill number forty on page thirty three is or projects or in project connect this was done as a sole source it's being amended but he was named in the grant for that number forty one as you a fait it bill this is for global campus marketing campaign again I want to point out this is a more than the original it's actually for three years adding additional colleges and also for three year time period. Number forty two is UALR this is an amendment to into of for services in support of the Arkansas prevention needs assessment you I. L. R. for an amendment for federal government relations services number forty four U. AMS this is up or contract to a try to do a trial assisting vitamin D. supplements in children with a the city related asthma and number forty five of this is an amendment to the contract that they have or financial billing accounting and consulting services to their veterans in both North Little Rock and fateful so those are all of the out of state contracts on today's agenda. All right members see here we got. Who's in seventy four. Your representative Dotson represent Dotson your question for this would be number fourteen the highway department. My name is robin Smith the Astors executive secretary. Red robin represent Dotson you're recognized procedure question afternoon robin if you could this is a. So also there's justification for I guess someone to manage the portfolio. Is. Is this a set amount that they get automatically each year or is this based off of Commissions I guess as as earns how does this contract look at it is a flat fee Castleark not only functions as a investment manager but they also do your asset allocation they do education of the board that they do multiple things up for us and they're flat fee is eight million three hundred fifty thousand they've asked for performance because at the end of last year they made over nine percent for us as a gross investment they currently are making about twenty three percent for this fiscal year so we felt like that was a justified request to check information point three to eight point eight million flat fee for the year for this year and then next year we'll revisit. Okay. And is there. They're the only one in the country that does this sort of. They're not the only one in the country that does it but we have worked with them since nineteen ninety eight and I'm they've done very well by us we let me say this we've worked with this team since eighty eight we worked with actual Castleark when they went on their own since about ninety seven and they've they've been a good team player for us okay. Thank you. Thank you all right. Representative Cavenaugh who's your question for. Highway Department okay recognized for a question thank you Mr do you know how many dollars of assets they manage for that eight point eight million right now it's at one point five. Billion billion okay. Thank you. Thank you representative. All right I've gotten C. twenty two. Yes senator Elliots. Yes thank you Mr chairman. what when's the last when Celeste on this contract has been up for competitive bid. that is not something it looks like we're on Amendment eighty. Well I'm just send amendment Startin thirteen. Yeah. You are Amendment number eight that's when the report competitive bid and what Amendment were on Amendment eighty from the yeah I'm the first one was I will only for the last out for competitive bids I'm sorry for everyone of these amendment I will be sure I understand you're saying so for each one of these amendments that was competitive bid now the first one was the competitive bidding them we've amended each year okay when you talk about the first one are you talking about twenty fifteen. twenty third thirteen yes okay. And so that makes how many times has been up for competitive bidding the number of years. looks like mine. Ninety. Seven years seven years seven years I have seven seven years added today they have always had the the best bid is what this announcmenet is what you're telling us and and part of it too is it so expensive when you move managers as well that's a factor as well because they've always performed very well for us to move you know you have to there's a lot of additional fees I am at now is is so expensive that the expense of moving it out. Would just eat up a subsume out what we might. Be able to. Due to make sure others have an opportunity to be a part of of of working for the state I guess because there I talked to contractors all the time other folks who want to be a part of this so do we save so much money that it actually does maybe make a difference and who we choose of for this contract as opposed to other folks who think they are not having a fair opportunity get this contract would that be a way of justifying for us it just save so much money and may not be worth it to have somebody else of doing the work force. Possibly the Amendment possible and there I and I go back to that we've consistently with this group performed above of the median. so it's you know you kind of get into that they've been a good team player thank they've not failed us and we do have a couple of other investment managers we have Garcia Hamilton which is next on this that went out for bids in twenty fifteen there's meridian which is a local farm we've been with them a long time to because they've been a good partner with this But. We've been very happy with the performance of castle are in because of the nature of investments. I guess and and I we don't have to settle all of this he or not right to do that I guess what I'm trying to make sure I'm understanding is we're happy with them they're good team players they perform well force I don't want us to be blinded by they perform well force but is there somebody else that might perform just as well or better that's that's what I'm getting at I don't want it so comfortable with what we call performing well that we don't explore anything else and I'm right I understand what you're saying okay all right thank you in robin's gonna follow up to Senator Elliot there is a substantial built in your contract with Castleark as far as like the you know certain performance measure so you I think you just said that you know in years past maybe that was last year the at about a nine percent return and your date you're about twenty to twenty three percent is there anything in this contract this as you know you're gonna of. A performance you know measure if the person is we've had some low your stay all the raw honest with the but we've consistently been able to bounce back and we've consistently Succeeded well beyond expectations above the median who says those expectations were used for benchmarking comparison to see if they're realistic or if that's the norm of what I'm median returns across the nation it's usually callin Pat callin will pay up publish of that information and so you can kind of compare with how you've done okay okay I got in there the more questions here I think representative Wardlaw. Sixty seven thank you Mr I just wondered you alluded to the twenty three percent earnings earlier can you get that to staff the spreadsheets that show that earnings so the committee can have a. When you're saying a spreadsheet or you just want to so it may not consume the performance report by a custodial bank. I'd be for. Thank you just in that category and Mr if we could make a note and staff to talk about this Friday and maybe get that before the close of the noon on Thursday so the committee members have time to look at it before Friday. Correct Sir robin can get that tattoo Cathy here she can get that out to members and so we can get that you know if not this afternoon the first thing tomorrow such is not just that all right thank you all right seat number seventy four. Who thank you Mr this is for someone else if there's other. Who is your question for president of the this would be item number forty three you have a little rock. All right that somebody from your L. A. R.. Okay. If you'll give us your name in here with the record. A. Other but no. Right and. Now. It's got a. All down there hello we'll try another microphone that's. See if a. The. There you are I'm sorry new new bank of funds. Correct use your name and who you're with I'm Johnny Lee with University of Arkansas at little rock great art represent Dotson you're recognized for the request thank you Mr thank you Johnny so this looking at this contract we've had this is the fifth amendment on this particular one and this is for federal government relations services is. Is this a lobbyist that were paying for with tuition and fees. Date DU lobby as part of the work that the firm does and this is I think the fifth year of our seven years or so we haven't at this since since then but we did request for proposals and initially there are a full service government relations firm and so in addition to working with our you know congressional delegations on different issues for the campus but also in the really more important work they do is I work in my past with federal relations with that with the actual agencies and a and identifying the program officers in the offices where there are specific people that have the unique you know programs that were that fit with you Eilers research capability so for example we work with the department of defense in the army medical realm on the bone regeneration work we do with our nano technology center and over the life of that project in that work with the department of defense we've required probably around ten million dollars in research dollars to to meet the needs of the army and they're bound regeneration portfolio another project that we do is with the office of naval research and in that instance Dr Nitin Agarwal works on social media analytics and tracks and looks for pockets of terrorist activity are you know misinformation campaigns and all of the things that we know about that that of cyber related I said he works with that office in his or so you know right now for example there's probably about six million dollars of federal grants that with the with the work of our firm in DC that they've helped us to to get into that those projects you also have someone employed from your office that goes to DC and works with them that would be me okay so periodically yes and I have been able to do that this last year much but yeah we've had a lot of virtual meetings with congressional offices and so these are long term partnerships with these federal agencies and the work of our congressional offices is very credit. Call in and you know keep in that contact and working with them in our firm plays the role of helping us meet that need to remember find that matching the federal agency where you LR specific research expertise can be utilized most thank you the representative thank you all right members see no further questions without objection these items will stand as reviewed. What skews me Senator Rice. The money come up if somebody with you A. M. S. on a forty four I just like a contact on that work with the the children that they would be with me offline. Marie's you get that correct thank you. All right who's C. fifty. Jose's center I'm sorry. All right all right members moving on and state contracts to send. Okay okay I'm caught back up now we're on in state contracts beginning on page thirty six of the first two the first one is for Arkansas heritage this is a contract for marketing communications of original contract for their various programs number two is a issue Three Rivers this is for building maintenance ingredient agreement for a custodial services number three corrections department for crop hauling services or the farm unit number for corrections this is for their dietary saw services for all of their facilities. In the Department corrections and the number five also for corrections department this is for aerial application services number six is DFA child support enforcement this is an amendment to their contract to renew the maintenance and support of the Arkansas child support information system number seven DFI revenue services for renewal of technical services for our store. The Arkansas streamline automobile. Program number eight is DFA revenue services or general of janitorial services number nine is Department transformation shared services of janitorial services for the Justice Building number ten is education department and this is another one of the contracts that the original on today's agenda that was done as a sole source the letters of our own pages four through six in the yellow packet that I provided you of this is for us smart data dashboard and it stated in the letters that currently integrates with statewide electronic transcripts system and it's the only company of its kind integrating electronic systems number eleven is the health department eleven and twelve or both for a technical. Programs to deal with improvement services for small water systems number thirteen is the health department with Greg Bledsoe this is of the original contract with them that board to act as the Surgeon General of Arkansas number fourteen it is health department medical waste services for medical waste transportation and disposal number fifteen higher ed this is a contract of four of maintenance in changes to their database hosting number sixteen and seventeen these are both going to be for highway transportation retirement for management services number eighteen through twenty one are all going to be contracts for DHS or therapeutic counseling services. That takes us down to number twenty two on page forty three four of the men that for supervised independent living services number twenty three is for counseling services for DHS number twenty four is a contract amendment for specialized private license placement for agencies number twenty five is private licensed foster homes for DCFS clients. Number twenty six is qualified residential treatment program number twenty seven is an amendment for supervised independent living programs for youth ages eighteen to twenty one of who elect to participate in extended foster care number twenty eight is war amendment to an existing contract for specialized developmental disabilities emergency shelter program services number twenty nine qualified residential treatment program number thirty therapeutic foster care services of thirty one also for that number thirty two is a contract for the American Sign Language interpreter services as needed by of that agency number thirty three DHS or qualified residential treatment program for DCFS clients number thirty four as an amendment for residential substance abuse treatment services number thirty five is also amendment for the same type of service number thirty six is for counseling services number thirty seven on page forty eight is an amendment for intensive family services of as well as thirty eight is with the same thing number thirty nine is for counseling services number forty is for life based team program. Number forty one is for qualified residential treatment program number forty two is emergency shelter services of as well as forty three number forty four on page fifty one DHS's an amendment for therapeutic foster care services forty five an amendment for residential substance abuse treatment services number forty six qualified residential treatment programs number forty seven amendment for residential substance abuse treatment number forty eight amendment for that they have for conducting home studies number forty nine is a contract amendment for therapeutic foster care services number fifty is a contract for a residential substance abuse treatment services of the same is true for fifty one fifty two is of amendment with treatment homes for therapeutic foster care services number fifty three is supervised independent living program for youth ages eighteen twenty one again who are in extended foster care. number fifty four is for qualified residential treatment program services number fifty five is for extended foster care number fifty six is an amendment for intensive family services. Number fifty seven is for therapeutic foster care fifty eight supervised independent living services number fifty nine residential substance abuse treatment services. Number sixty on page fifty six is for counseling services the next one for DHS is for qualified residential treatment program services for DCFS number sixty two is for an amendment for physical and therapy physical therapy services at the Conway human development center. Number sixty three is for respiratory therapist services at the Conway human development center number sixty four is a psychological services for the Booneville human development center and never sixty five is for pharmacy services for residents at all five human development centers throughout the state. Number sixty six is neurology services at Conway human development center number sixty seven is another one of the contracts that is not adding any zero dollar amount to the amendment but it's on the agenda because it's part of the dental managed care program and they added the fraud and abuse protection in Los program to it number sixty eight DHS for therapeutic counseling services sixty nine is DHS contract amendment for criminal background checks number seventy is a contract amendment for national park community college for armed and uniformed security guard services number seventy one three two seventy five or offered nurse investigators for the nursing board. Number seventy six is for parks and tourism of this is their contract that they have amending their contract for advertising promotion for the Arkansas department of parks heritage and tourism and number seventy seven on page sixty one is a contract amendment that they have for the keep Arkansas beautiful commission And that's for advertising marketing and public relations you a fateful has a contract amendment number seventy eight for consulting services for the principal fellows programme number seventy nine of this is the contract for geo technical services on call this is the one that I mentioned earlier it is a construction related contract bill is not identified properly so it got stuck in the wrong part of our agenda number eighty is and this is an original contract they received a grant from the education department the fund that UALR has a contract for marketing communications and amendments to their existing contract and then there are two contracts for Veterans Affairs the first one for skilled nursing of for their Veterans homes in both fable and North Little Rock and then the next one is far pharmacy services for their Veterans homes the those are all of the in state contracts on today's agenda all right. Representive makes you have a question. Right yes foreign and staff may be able to answer this on my my questions on number eight this contract for janitorial services I don't remember us ever really having to approve contracts or grants or all services in the past so is there something different or unique about this or I just missed that in the past number eight. Is that the amount that a few years ago janitorial zero. Termas give me a representative makes that those kinds of contracts were added a few years ago there considered technical services contracts for janitorial services lawn care services those types of things up initially we just looked at him as a request and then when the procurement laws were changed a few years ago they were Roll then with these and they have the same threshold I used to have a different threshold for review but they have the same threshold as other services contracts but yes we do see those on a regular basis now okay thank you. All right center Chesterfield yes thank you Mr this is for you a fair deal okay click. Rebecca. Good afternoon Rebecca Haley University of Arkansas we've never seen you before how are you. I read me in fact normally we're looking at seventy eight normally it is. The university which is the contractor and the school is the agency. But it seems to be reversed you're explaining to me I think I'm familiar with it but help me remember why East what the stadium which is a charter school K. through twelve. Is doing for the University of Arkansas at Phoebe. Yes ma'am this was originally and I of one point nine million dollar grant to the university of Arkansas Code have our college of education and health purpose of professions to help supply a highly skilled teachers and administrators to some of Arkansas's lowest income public schools to enhance that kind of grow their own leaders of principles system principles and in the midst of doing this we do have a partnership with those school districts all over the state that charter schools were added in and of. Eastend leadership with doctor bacon was at a specifically asked for in the grant so that's one of the reasons why we do it with the eastern part by a public charter schools as with a social orders justification for those services because I've asked for and the grant so in order to get the money you've got to deal with the stamp yes ma'am okay tell me this how much. How many of the individuals who participate in the principal principal fellows program. I have gone from where they current where they started to another place where there are probably more needed. I don't have that information in front of me I have certain school districts and give you example of school districts in if you would give me that information it would be helpful because the whole point process was supposed to be to provide data principles to areas of great need is that not the case yes ma'am and if that's not happening I know you'll continue to get the money but I'd like to know how if activities thank you so much Mr thank you thank you Rebecca. Sleepwear Senator Elliott. I will follow up. Before you go there are recognized. I had a question another one but I just have a follow up to this one up Rebeca so I I'm just wanna be sure that I am thinking about this correctly and. So the Walton foundation decided that they wanted to help out with training leaders and education and so the grant went to university of Arkansas and then the Walton foundation dictated who they wanted to do that work is that is that correct would be applied for the grant yes ma'am when you applied for the grant it if you had to use a person they said you had to use and and that in this in this grant and this grant okay thank you this man class thank Mr Mrs yet another questions Senator Elliot I do but is not for you happen operate is not very big round about it so I've number sixty nine at city. I think I've got the right one here yeah number number sixty nine Arkansas information consortium is under. DHS yet yeah human yes Human Services department. Mr Clark what DHS. market when As you use these contractors to do background checks do you have been in any metrics are there any checking in with them to be sure they are still giving you accurate information. How do you determine that in this case no and the reason is this contract is solely for the for like better in the communication back and forth with state police because actually state police that does the background check itself for these for these situations and we do that because the con the statute requires that the state police do this background checks well that's what had me confused about these folks of these folks act as a go between DHS and the state police that what happens they operate the portal that providers can use to arrange that background check and then they now use electronic scanners to to to harvest the fingerprints that are sent a state police for the background check is so if I want to check on your background I would just enter the portal that they are providing and that could give me the background that I need because it's coming from the police no for the portal you basically you would arrange for that background check an individual have to visit the DHS office where we would take their fingerprints using electronic scanners and then that information sent directly to state police for them to process. You don't have the capability within DHS then to to do this yourself I guess is what I'm. It in terms of of actually looking this at an oral history and pulling for a particular individual no ma'am we would everything we use come Sir cliff state police or FBI. What okay I'm I'm trying to figure out I'm I understand where it's coming from but you use this entity to get the information from the state police not the not the information itself is just the procedure of how the fifth of of of painting background check by the the provider painted back background checks is like for example childcare facilities that give their their workers under the finger fingerprints they'll use that portable go in and actually pay for that background checks to be done and then at a range for that fingerprint be taken but the actual process of the criminal history information being transmitted that's directly between state police and us okay all right thank you. Thanks Mr thank you senator. All right. Thank represent Dotson thank you Mr this is for item number seventy seven parks and tourism okay thank you mark spy from person Thoresen. All right if you'll give us your name and who you're with record. Stacey her secretary for the Arkansas department of parks heritage and tourism I Mark camp on the Director of keep Arkansas beautiful. Thank you a representative Dotson you're recognized procedure thank you Mr chair so on this particular contract looks like we're spending almost half a million dollars a year But doesn't say where the funding comes from and I guess it says Fournette eighty four hundred sixty eight thousand for company increase compensation in nineteen hundred dollars for expenses. Can you explain the difference I guess between the two and. We just. Right before there's a. A sixteen million dollar your advertising contract why do we need both of these can't you put this one in the the master contract for advertising. Yes so keep Arkansas beautiful as an agency their advertising and promotion budget is that four hundred and sixty thousand per year and so we have a contract with the Mangum Holcomb and they do all that Work with us doing that so that's where that money goes with everything keep Arkansas beautiful related including our big clean ups to clean up every year comes out of that budget. Representative Johnson that is conservation tax when the conservation tax was passed it set aside funding specifically for keep Arkansas beautiful okay so so that's the other source of funding here it all comes out that com conservation money yes the website is maintained by C. J. R. W. but the advertising contract is paid with conservation tax in that agreement is with Mike Holcomb partners and so we advertise to ask people for. To to get them to come out to do clean ups what how to what we advertising I guess well yes so it's a it's a combination it's a lot of that is awareness about how important is have a you know going green clean Arkansas so it's the whole awareness of what's important to litter what's important for the environment education for children we provide resources for even the department of education on Education giving tools to educators about how important it is the other thing is that we advertise for volunteers and so probably on average we have. Thirteen fourteen thousand our Kansans the come out every year twice a year in the spring and the fall And so that budget is typically about a hundred twenty five thousand dollars of that budget goes to that but if you look at the return on that investment the addition of PSA people advertising basically for us and the volunteer hours then it's about almost three million dollars is the R. O. Y. on that investment. Okay. Thank you Mr or thank you representative see here see number forty two. Thank you Mr chairman a representative very so a secretary is there a source document that has a break down of of how all of that money is spent as far as advertising promotion and exactly where it's going are you referring specifically to keep Arkansas beautiful yes I don't have we can get that for you we can yes Sir I don't have that with me but I appreciate that we can provide that absolutely okay then thanks secretary her speeches get that capping season of the members yes the correct all right guys all right see no further questions in with that but thank does he get the scene over questions without objections those items will stand as review thank you. Mr chairman the only thing left on our agenda are reports and I just want to go over those briefly E. one is a report of all contracts that have been previously reviewed by this committee and there's no material change of being made so they are being reported to the committee R. E. to our executed contracts these are gonna be contracts that are under the threshold for review so they had been executed by O. S. PT and they're being reported and then there's also the report of critical emergency procurements we've been seeing a lot more of that in the last year because of covid but that's of again these are all contracts that have been executed been given permission by is paid to move forward on and they're being reported to this committee today and that's all we have on today's agenda. All right members say no further business conference committee we are adjourned thank you.