ALC-Review

Thank you Mr chairman of the first item on the agenda under Paket B. R. methods of finance on the first page is the letter from DFI accounting of the methods of financing they're sending over today for your review on page two starts the chart the first one is for Arkansas northeastern college it's for energy energy efficiency projects a little over three point seven million dollars and they know that they have plant and loan funds to cover it as well as federal funds then we have some for a issue Jones where the first one for bookstore renovation nine hundred sixty two thousand this is going to be covered under university reserve a issue Jones first farmers market they're building a construction of a new farmers market building this is a little over three point four million dollars they know that the majority of this will be funded through a private gift as well as university funds then you have campus lighting phase three five hundred forty four thousand three eighty they have university reserves for that project as well as for the lab sciences west fire alarm replacement which is a little over three hundred twenty eight thousand then you have number six national park college this is for student housing project to provide two hundred bed student housing facility two hundred fifty thousand dollars currently they have cash funds to get that project started essay you tech for a campus H. back upgrades this is for shoemaker hall and the GM H. fax systems a million one hundred sixty one thousand of a million one or sixty one thousand because that they have federal funds these are coming from the higher education emergency relief grant as well as the next one for them which also is funding from those of federal funds for other campus H. back upgrades for the technical engineering building and that was being re. Advised of five hundred fifty six thousand nine sixty seven you have your alarm number nine with the promenade library plaza renovation five point four million dollars they have foundation gift to cover that then we have you a fait it bill the first one for for civil engineering research and education center this is a little over thirteen point seven million dollars of with a variety of funding sources including bond proceeds give funds university reserve some general improvement funds as well as federal grant funds. Numbers eleven three thirteen are all going to be for you a fable for their job order contracting contracts to have on call if they need them four of the methods of finance to cover those number fourteen you a fable this is for ventilation projects for evaluating and the existing H. back in making improvements shall main plant site the bill engineering the business building seven point six million dollars I also want to note on this that they have an alternative delivery method construction project on this as well as their professional service fees engineering and architectural contract and I'll point those out later this project will be kind of covered under university reserves number fifteen you a fait it bill this one is the multi use silicon carbide national research a renovation of existing place a space at the engineering research center and to create a clean room a research facility and construction of a new lab facility this is three million one hundred eighty five thousand dollars of the overall total project will be a little over twenty three million dollars they anticipate they have university reserves that will be used to start this out and then they hope to draw up federal grant funds to complete the project also this one has an alternative delivery a contract as well as a professional services contract I'll point out later you a fable number sixteen and then science material science an engineering building to provide a clean room laboratory ten million dollars this one is up funded under gift from the Walton family foundation it's the third of the four contracts that they have on the agenda today with an alternative delivery method contract and the last one is you a fable on numbers. Seventeen this is for Wingate galleries to further consolidate the school of art programs at the art and design district thirty four million dollars this one is a hundred percent yes from the Wingate foundation those are the methods of finance on today's agenda. All right members seen no questions and without objection these items will stand as reviewed. Mr chairman the next items on the agenda are the contracts of construction contracts over five million dollars the audit alternative delivery ATMs that I mentioned there are four of them I'll highlight the information I haven't already gone over the first one on item see page one is the Wingate galleries that I mentioned I want to point out that they received eight proposals they interviewed three contractors they've selected Clark contractors of for the construction and Todd Williams as the architect on that project the second project on the next page is there nano scale materials science and engineering building clean room set out we saw the MOF for this one they are received six proposals for the construction of this project they interviewed three of those are selected CDI contractors and health projects for that. The third one on the third page is the multi use silicon carbide national research fabrication laboratory they received seven construction project proposals and interviewed three of those contractors they selected the whiting Turner contracting company for the building of the building and the design press professional be it will be with buyer the last one of their alternative deliveries is there H. back equipment improvements are they receive for proposals interviewed all four of those entities selected CDI contractors and Henderson engineers so those of the alternative delivery construction projects on today's agenda all right members not seen any questions and without objection these items will stand as reviewed. The next items on our agenda are grants of the first batch comes from the health department D. one so the first one for the health department there is a federal grant fund for half million dollars for online on demand training technical support platform to address issues related to social determinants of health and two of collect development of action steps for community partners and local health departments statewide numbers two and three or both grants that are funded by state dollars the first one is to for comprehensive burn education and outreach program and the second one is for bar here education travel associated without reach education and educational materials number four on the next page is again a federally funded grant for diabetes self management education and support number of five is an amendment to an existing grant this is a land of federal as well as eighty percent state funds it is for the infant child death review program number six is amendment of adding to the grant to support the goals of the Arkansas cancer plan and real as it relates to tobacco control that one is funded by master to tack tobacco settlement money number seven through eleven also are funded under master tobacco settlement funds and these are all going to provide office space and administrative support for the community health nurse specialist and community health promotion specialist to carry out the requirements of their positions to provide technical assistance education and policy guidance to school district nurses health communities and community health coal lace coalitions in Arkansas that's seven through eleven number twelve on page four is an amendment to an existing federal grant and this one provides licensed clinical social worker. For services to community health worker assistance in non clinical locations throughout the state were HIV positive our Kansans can receive interventions psychological support and course plotting to expedite their HIV care and treatment assistance and the last one for the health department on page five is an amendment to an existing grant and this one is to provide administration and direct client services for low income HIV positive persons with medical and support services. All right Senator Elliot you have a question. Yes I have a question about number four okay with my faith and help open up here. And it might be more specific or from some Baptists as well Mr if they're here. You said again center I said it might be helpful if the folks who that the grantee Baptist health foundation okay if they were here as well because I rather than have okay they're not here. Let's get the. And if you all will have a seat and give us your names and positions for the record. I'm Christy sellers on the director for the center for health advancement for the Arkansas department help. Tony Bailey I'm impressed you with the crying disease a program. Thank you Senator Elliot you're recognized procedure question thank you and I thank you both I think this is this grant is a very good thing I just wanna know for that amount of money what you're what's the grantee is actually able to do but specifically when people get these kind of grants do they take into account the. Information they give them a based on where the people are at the conditions under which the people actually live. Because for example if they're giving them information about eating healthy foods and they live in a food desert. No that's not going to be that useful in many cases so that's what are they giving false information her their conditions are they just giving out the standard information that people can even access a way to use it. Right your. You know it's on the Arkansas. Read your on his back okay. So it is my understanding that that is that is part of the process so when it when they're doing this and that's what we're looking at on this or you know on the server areas and individuals that that usually can't that I missed out on is to be able to address them not only in their condition but in the area which they live and what's available to them. So when they submit their grants do you I don't know who looks at them but if I were to look at their submission is there is there something in there that will give me a good idea of how you are helping somebody for example who does live in a food desert or in order to do what they need to do is get exercise if there is a place where they can get out walking that kind of stuff in the submission enough. But that's okay that's okay. Because Mr cherry or somebody who represent staff would just get somebody from Baptist this is I just want to talk about this this is not to blame thing. It's it's just a matter I. Honestly just think more intentionally and this time not might not and this is not even the thing that really is. The up Baptist problem is there is a policy problem that we need to address regarding the issues that I just mentioned thank you Mr chair so but I'm just wondering if you're thinking about that when you cannot grant thank you senator that we can get somebody from that district and that's all I need necessary yes ma'am and we can take care of that for you thank you thank you all thank you all right members not so any more questions without objection these items will stand as review. Now Mister chairman today to these are the grants from the Department of Human Services numbers one three three or all going to be for recap providing recovery community organization services in various catchment areas these are federally funded number four is an amendment to an existing grant that they have for a sub grant for employment training services for snap recipients number five is to provide for us a family stability programs federally funded grant number six is an amendment to an existing grant that they have for early head start community hub assistance and those of the DHS grants all right members not seen any questions without objection these items will stand is reviewed the next group of grants are are Arkansas court appointed special advocates casa grants of all local calls all local casa programs in Arkansas recruit train supervise community volunteers to advocate for the best interest of the views in the collected children in circuit court of the national pass costs association in Arkansas costs up require all programs to pass a rigorous quality assurance process based upon state national standards and be in compliance with state national standards for casa advocacy in program management these grants can be allowed to pay for salaries and related calls for program staff to work on recruiting and supervising and managing the volunteers and you the travel this necessary to stay in contact with children training that they provide supplies equipment assisting with rent utilities etcetera and membership in national costs or associations the chart that you received C. shows the judicial district the counties are the third column shows the grant amount from the state and then the next column shows the percentage of that poor. Tion of the agencies that their budget that is state funded and then there other funding sources this is a total of a little over seven one point seven million dollars in funding to these costs a grant programs that takes us through item the three. All right members not seen any questions without objections these I'll stand as reviewed the next group of grants are from the Arkansas soybean promotion board of these are going to be funded by this agency special revenues that they receive so the first one is fifteen thousand dollars for programming at the Arkansas agricultural learning center operated the for state fair for year round advances special programs related to both the industry and beef product nutrition the second one is a grand for midsouth soybean board to conduct research projects in collaboration with the states they work with Missouri Arkansas Mississippi Louisiana at a public researchers work to enhance the soybean industry through research across the mid south region the third one is for membership dues to the United States soybean export council for ten thousand dollars the fourth one is for two hundred five thousand four grow grow for the green to yield contest used to help promote the progressive nature of the soybean farmers in Arkansas and then number five is ten thousand dollars for the national biodiesel board grant or membership dues to that organization number six thirty thousand dollars for assisting in poultry education with the university of Arkansas center for poultry excellence in viable and then finally number seven forty eight thousand one hundred this is for expanding of the solely food value chain in Arkansas so those are the soybean promotion. A board grants on today's agenda. All right members not seen any questions without objections these items will stand as reviewed the final of grant is from the division of workforce services and this is ten of of branch it is three point eight million dollars a hundred percent fairly funded this is for you development services in the delta region of Arkansas and in also in areas where the targeted used by a similar barriers as those in the delta and it works with the consortium of fourteen municipalities community and faith based organizations to engage qualifying young people ages fourteen to twenty one from disadvantaged economic social and family circumstances the two components of their program or the summer youth employment year round and the year round after school enrichment and those are all the grants on today's agenda. All right members not seen any questions without objections these items will stand as reviewed. Mr chairman the next group of items are are contracts on the first page eighty one is the letter from Mitch rouse the of state procurement director of the nodes in the last paragraph that none of the contract submitted appear on their face to have been procured in violation of the Arkansas procurement law so we start with our construction related contracts alone Page two numbers one through three you're all going to be for the Arkansas heritage department and these are going to be for their own call architectural design services contracts of all amendments to those existing contract number four on page four is Department transformation shared services Building Authority Division this is to replace fan coil units for the Rockefeller building Regional contract little over three hundred fifty eight thousand dollars number five eighty Q. four of three point three million dollars for research center for full design services for of building for a warehouse for geologic samples and research as well as office and technology training spaces spread out over two levels number six mid south community college this is architectural services for their bad acts aviation building number seven is essay you tech of this is of for their own call architectural services an amendment to that contract number eight U. a community college at hope this is their own call architectural services number nine of fate bill this of the projects we saw earlier the four projects this is one of those is the design services or the nano clean room project number ten is the engineering services for the project for their upgrades to existing hair handlers you a fable number eleven this is for adding the amount to the final construction cost up for the Arkansas union tenet infill project number twelve is there fine arts theater project amendment to that contract number thirteen is a new contract this is for five years of their senior walk number fourteen another one of those contracts we've already discussed but this is the one the the design services or the Wingate to art gallery and then finally you a fateful architectural and engineering design services for their fight fourth project that we've already gone over the multi use silicon carbide semiconductor national research and fabrication lab. Number sixteen as UAMS this is amendments to the existing contract that they have for on call commissioning services number seventeen you a Monticello. This is there amendment to the contract they have for on call architectural services and you APB has a new contract for and and for a contract for with Cromwell architects for the design of their hazardous hazard skews me gymnasium renovation project phase one those are the construction related contracts. All right Senator Rice you're recognized for a question Sir number five the DQ okay. Yes my from eighty Q. a pair. Welcome if you'll please give us your names in your positions with a Q. and you be recognized perceived questions Senator. Hello April golden chief of staff at the department of energy and environment. Afternoon air black I'm the director of compliance with the environment. Thank you senator you're recognized particular question is this research center that this. A consultant services as far as this on the current I guess campus over the cross river. Yes Sir this would be on our existing footprint at the North Little Rock headquarters across the regular bill all new construction yes Sir the total of the construction will be low. The amount is well we're at capped at three point three million we don't yet know exactly what the price will be because we haven't engaged architect on it but that's the the most it would be it would be the top twenty seven percent state who all was or any other consideration looked into it and other facilities that might be available that could be converted for that type use to got to be on campus yes Sir we've actually been looking into this for about a year now a little over a year looking at different various warehouse locations you may be familiar with the current warehouse where we store the core samples and there are a lot of them. And. That location is not really feasible anymore it's it's pretty dated and needs a lot of repair and so we've been looking at other options and then when we explored of the prices and and not let Aaron kind of talk to some of that because he's been involved in that process a little more this was kind of the the better option for a long term solution. Is the initiative all of by AD cures or any push from a EPA or anything saying we're we don't have Syracuse up regardless of the. No no we've not received this is actually the warehouse part of this building is going to court is. Store the core samples which Arkansas Geological Survey is the one that has has those samples so this will be a kind of a partnership where we have a warehouse for those samples as well as a training technology center for the entire department with this relieve any costs for current facilities that. So yes there there are two buildings that we're looking at selling they're both pretty dated and both need significant money put into them to make them usable and so we will be able to get rid of those things which are costing us money right now in utilities as well as make maintenance okay thanks for the information thank Mr. Thank you senator all right representative makes your question for yes Sir so just so I fully understand so the Arkansas Geological Survey currently located on baseline road or they moving over to the new campuses that's what's going on we're going to sell all the assets over there off baseline road they they are actually already there they've moved to or North Little Rock headquarters the core samples and a lot of their equipment is still stored at that warehouse and we don't have space for it the move of it is going to be a significant move in so we don't want to move it try to find a temporary location of the moved again so that's what we're looking for a permanent solution okay so the Department already move now we're just moving almost okay excellent thank thank you Mr thank you all right representive love you're recognized for a question Sir thank you Mister just want some clarification Not the object to the project I just you said that three point three million is what your cat that in right in regards to construction or is it what you can't that in regards to. To this contract. I believe that's the total amount for the the maximum amount we would spend on this building. For the for the construction of the building correct okay all right thank you. Thank you all right see no further questions without objections these items will stand as reviewed thank you all. Mister of the next group of contractor inter governmental contracts easy to beginning on page nine of the packet the first one is career read rehab services this one is a little over three and thirty three thousand six forty eight is for hiring teachers and program director to serve students with disabilities through injury educational co op services then we have education with a issue Jonesborough to oversee the evaluation and data collection activities as outlined in the Arkansas where project submission number three education with a issue of for positive behavior interventions and support training and coaching services to educational pilot site number for education with the university of Oregon this one is for online career and college planning system number five health department this is with all Rock ambulance authority Ms and this is to continue to establish and operate a statewide infrastructure for the Arkansas trauma system. number six health department this is for pregnancy risk assessment monitoring system of number seven health department with you a Monticello this is for Dr Keith Blount's objector Laboratory at you AM to provide technical support to the department of health do not it is the session section number eight health department to UAMS we do facilitate current real time access to imaging for Arkansas trauma patients number nine and ten these are going to be for DHS and there to continue early childhood technical assistance services. Number eleven and twelve or both for DHS to continue operating child care aware researchers at resource and referral agency number thirteen on the next pages for in person and online trainings on a variety of topics to meet childcare providers needs this is through best care and best care connected online projects number fourteen is to continue to enhance the competence of targeted early childhood program staff on family engagement related to cultural diversity inclusion of children with disabilities training and coaching number fifteen DHS with you a federal to support statewide early care and education professional development delivery system for the two and four year colleges number sixteen is DHS and this is for the team for early childhood inclusion project number seventeen DHS view a Fort Smith or continued early childhood and preschool professional development services. Number eighteen it is for a contract amendment to continue our ready to elevate social emotional learning and Arkansas number nineteen is a new contract or supplemental nutrition assistance program snap nutrition education number twenty is to continue residential educational services. Number twenty one this is for the insurance department is with UAMS and this is for an administrator for the Arkansas health care initiative number twenty two is national park college with Garland County sheriff and that's the contract that they use for their security on their campus and those are the inter governmental contracts on today's agenda. All right representative makes you have a question I yes I just like to learn more about the the the item number one. Okay. Okay so career education rehabilitation services yes Sir. All rights we as may appear correct. Hollowell. Introduce yourself and gives your positions for the record then representative you're recognized proceed. Good afternoon Joe Baxter Commission rehab services. A good afternoon Charles live regional council free of services. All right represent. Okay. Jonathan bill Director of the Arkansas career development center I thank. Right thank you John I'm over here for far right is what that looks like this is a new program I'm just interested in learning more about it and uh who's going to target what you hope to accomplish and so forth. Gramlich John and a company. Yes we have been passed and the workforce innovation opportunity act to partner with secondary education for pre employment transition services to help prepare students with disabilities for jobs that exist in the communities and in doing so we we look at different ways of partnering both with school districts and it was just a natural fit with the educational services cooperative although this is fairly new we had we did our pilot program with the gas meter educational services cooperative on transportation and logistics I can tell you the first school that came on board we had sixteen stations that are all currently in internships around the alma areas they have out of the sixteen fourteen of already received credentials related to transportation and logistics and they were getting very favorable of response from the employers that are partnering with us that they will have they will be extended employment opportunities so we we're really looking at ways in which we can expand that role the educational services cooperative helps us to make sure that we're able to hire individuals that meet industry credentials but also meet the educational requirements so that students can get credit for the for the classes that they're going through so they're getting credit both for the knowledge that they're learning the credentials and also for the internship component some are good programming students we all be able to help with the this program right now with the or pilot program with one class we had sixteen we're anticipating ramping up up to six class six classes by her instructor so you can say that that would be quite a few new statements and that's X.. Banding our current ability which was really located in the hot springs area alone so this gives us more of a state wide presence and actually spread that out and gets it into local areas where students don't have to be transported to hot springs or to have a a long term stay in hot springs area but will be able to be done primarily in the different school districts now we do this through a blended approach we do some distance learning but we also do some very targeted hands on labs so we get the best of both worlds and we also partner with special education instructor at those school districts many of the students that we work with our night at not able to take advantage of some of the safety courses that are available because they're doing course recovery or they just don't have the ACT scores to get into some of the career centers that they that have similar classes so this is really kind of a pre requisite for that and can lead us postsecondary training either at a college or through registered apprenticeship okay sounds like a good program thank you John. That are thank you representative makes representative Smith I believe your you see forty five yes recognized for a question Sir thank you I would like to know a little bit more about number six. Why we're. Sending this study out to okay out of state well before we get there a couple or people that you all make sure that we don't have anything specific to this contracts under hammers yours okay and recognize Senator Hammer. You're recognized thank you Mr and and you just touched on the second goal as far as these of students have the opportunity to be trained in a career technical education center the do you have that in the in the plans for the future I'm I was trying to understand how this is going to help him segue into that work environment yes Sir a lot of the students don't have a lot of that Knowledge or experience toward those different career fields so one of the obligations of those instructors is to do career exploration specifically to these areas and those that are eligible to go to the career centers we help to facilitate that we also have programming at the hot spring center is called our student access and support systems so that we can put any kind of accommodations in place so that they can be successful at the career center's ideally we want those that can go to the career centers to go but we also want to make sure that there are opportunities for those that because of whatever reason are a good fit at the career center so that they can get that technical training okay and one of the things I understand is sometimes industry is a little bit hesitant for whatever reason the hire of folks with disabilities so what involvement how has the industry. Industrial world that would normally be associated with CTE center been involved in the discussion because to me would seem likely to be a natural fit if you've got industries in the community that are present at the city center so they could reject comfort level and remove that that that fear factor arson Sarli involved or not yes they are involved for each one of our training areas we have a business and industry advisory group very similar to what you would see with the CD programme and a high school setting in addition to that we work with that special education instructor who often has some very strong ties to the community in the business and industry area and and I almost for instance on a pilot program we were able to reach about seven different employers that were willing to give internship opportunities that are going to lead to jobs in that while there were some initial hesitation one of the things we're able to do is we have a business and engagement group that works with us through Arkansas rehabilitation services and I go in and can give a presentation on the benefits of hiring people with disabilities and also the income tax credits that are available to them so that has been very successful start thank you Mr president Senator. All right Senator Irvin is this your question for the okay I got. Representative or skews me Senator Elliot is a question for graduation okay you're recognized for a question thank you not that I'm glad alimony has got the pilot but how did you determined and how we determine going forward. Next. Okay one of the things that we've been doing is working with the school districts that are in the dos and cooperative and we start looking at different jobs that are available in the area and we've been doing career exploration with them with some of our existing programs they're located in hot springs and they felt like these will be very good yeah it's for them and their students we've got a really strong program with lake Hamilton school district and also fountain lake found like it's been one of our very strong schools that have partnered with us so we'll be rolling it out through the cooperative the FAQ Walker reaches multiple school districts what we already have school districts that are very excited about the expansion of those that programming for the students with disabilities yes I guess I should have asked Per next to include the next co op next call because I'm really trying to I'm looking at this in a regional way of of yeah all of the state we are we are looking our next co op we are currently partnering with great river co opts out of pine bluff and one of the things that we're looking for with them is not necessarily the CTP route but they're looking for some additional help for psychological services to help folks get on the right track and the ride mindset to get employed and stay employed because they have some very good CTP programs but were really kinda looking at partnering with them on both their alternative learning environment because a lot of those students have disabilities and because of the disabilities as a lot of frustration that is is kind of coin itself out as bad behaviors so if the like if we can provide those supportive services in that cooperative the like there will be a whole lot of opportunities are going to be available on the C. T. E. route so that's another cooperate we're looking at and also looking at providing some some opportunities and northeast Arkansas another even though they're located in a coop in it And as in a particular geographic region there are some collaborations across co ops so for instance cafe enter doesn't go all the way up to Prairie Grove but because of of the close location and the distance learning and the targeted labs we're going to be able to go across those cooperative lines to be able to provide that training and and be able to to help students in different school let me clarify Great Rivers quickly be sure I understand. So for the students in pine bluff. They've got the career tech opportunities voter in this case there bills disability is. Their disability is. What I'm not understanding why with their disabilities all right that a lot of the disabilities are learning disabilities but because of the learning this eighties and the need for support on those they often demonstrate as behavioral issues that are kind of keeping them they've got the skill set the successful in the C. T. E. programs but because of some behavioral set backs there's some problems with them being able to continue on their their training area so this is one of the supports that we feel we can put into place in that area to really help enhance the CD model it's already in place because that cooperative also manages the safety programs of for those school districts in that area I don't think I don't think this is a question that the panel if you can answer but. I would like from somebody from a staff to find out if in the case of pine bluff if we're quoting behavior with to set this up disability because I know that actually does happen and it should not happen because because somebody hit as bad behavior doesn't necessarily mean they have a disability so I'd like that just clarifies and I don't have any questions for where they stand thank you thank you Senator Elliot. Senator eleven you have a question for them. Okay. You're recognized for a question I'm sorry I got to represent Smith. Go ahead not Senator you go ahead he's got a question for another agency. You're recognized no okay go ahead he's got a it's another agencies okay sorry yet just follow up questions I think just following up with what Senator Elliot just stated I think I'm very concerned that children that are having behavioral health behavioral issues that is not equated to disability or to mental health issues and what I don't want to see our children who do have a learning disability might have dyslexia or has a difficult reading that they are put into an alien program and then. You know that we are feeding that pipeline I don't I don't want that to happen because those are children that are not supposed to be in that environment they need they need to be and so I'm just cautioning because when we start to hand out big contracts or contracts that have a lot of monetary value to them what I do not want to see is creating the justification for the amount of money in the contract. So I've I also need some reassurance that we are not doing that because because I don't want to justify the monetary spend of the contract you're advocating for by putting kids unnecessarily into these programs when they don't need to be in these programs do you understand what I'm saying yes okay and so just following up with Senator Elliot this is a huge concern for me as well and the only students that we can work with are those that are five oh for students or those that already have a individual education plans so they've been identified as having a disability there are quite a few that meet that criteria that are in alternative learning but it doesn't mean that they have to be put in I mean the disability doesn't put them in their so we are required by law that's the only folks that we can serve are those that are potentially eligible for our services so they have to meet those disability guidelines regardless of behavior so is is not a behavioral program thank you and I think I appreciate that my comments are more so for anybody that's involved in the education sphere because that's that is we've got to make sure we're solid on these policies not it's not an easy thing thank you thank you senator. All right represent a Smith and I believe you all he's got a question for another agency so you'll not used thank you and purpose but was it the the health department for six okay. Welcome to all give us your names your positions and Christmas to be recognized procedural question good afternoon makes a must after the all ages that the Arkansas department. Good afternoon Casey Corcoran deputy director for programs all right representive you're recognized procedure question thank you Mr chair thank you both for coming to the table for me on page three number six there is a contractor that's been engaged or will possibly be engaged from Rutgers and I'm just curious with all the universities and then the either doctoral students or doctoral candidates that we have at our universities in behavioral sciences or social sciences departments why are we outsourcing this to an out of state university when will it looks to me like we could do it in state. Yes thank you for the question my understanding that the reason why your brokers was chosen is because they have a robust nationally recognized survey research center and the actually administer the prams telephonic survey of for many other states for this particular service. And we don't do that in Arkansas at all I'm not sure the capabilities of the in house of the in state institutions are. This will follow up with that progress for follow up it just seems like it's to me it's not the money but it's the opportunity to train. our own people to be able to do these types of things I've. I've done a social science field research for a decade and Once you get it down in your mind you can do the work if you've got the guts to go engage people and this looks like mostly phone conversations and Relatively simple Research gathering up with respondents and but just doesn't seem like it would be necessary to outsource it but I appreciate your explanation thank you thank representative Senator Irvin should question for the health okay you're recognized your questions Senator thank you so I'm just curious as to how the results of the survey are going to be utilized and will. Will they also be at utilize an integrated into what we have done through DHS in the Medicaid expansion program with the life three sixty maternal items. Thank you for the question I can speak generally to how this information has been used over the past thirty five years and since we've gone into your you know your to collect the experiences of women who have recently given birth to a lot in life for at you know a collecting on information about their particular experiences related to the examples include sleep positions I saw the the information that is gathered from the server help inform a policy as well as programs that are specific to outcomes to reduce morbidity mortality among mothers and and and children right which is exactly what we designed the life three sixty maternal home to do so instead of this information be in silos into the department of health and we're paying for this I'm asking you to set up a meeting with DHS okay and I want you to integrate what we're paying for here into our efforts on the policy that we've put in place with the Medicaid expansion our home a program. That's what I'm asking and directing you to do because there's no reason for this information to be silo to the department of health we were pursuing. The life three sixty maternal home through our home and the DHS and if you will follow up and get back to me with the results of your meeting with them I would appreciate that thank you thank you senator all right Senator Hammer you're recognized for a question could this from the health department yep. We got here okay thank you just wanna make sure I'm on I'm looking at number seven with the University of Arkansas at Monticello as one of your questions about. That is is that okay. If you wanna hold me is fine whatever. Just introduce yourself and Mister position for the record. Can you to your microphone on the of the Little. The other button again. There you go. For a Roth of state public health veterinarian. Thank you lord Sir Henry reckons procedure wishin thank you Mr his per short to the point two years ago we had a public health media thing was we we had a meeting where some folks came in and talked about the diagnosis of diseases that are from Texas and I'm just curious in this research of do you know if Lyme disease or tick fever if there any possibility of diseases that result from tick bites are excluded from consideration no there will be no diseases excluded from this okay that's why I want to thank you for thank you Senator all right thank you all right members see no further questions without objections these items will stand as review. Mr chairman that takes us to page twenty and these are the out of state contracts the first one was pulled by the agency so we'll move on to number two Arkansas tech this is for interim professional staffing for their Russellville and Ozark campus's number three this is Arkansas tech also with the A. B. global this is far providing direct marketing strategies techniques and technology technological tools to effectively promote final of management of students search programs I want to point out on this one that they note in the amendment that they're adding to this that they are needing to sync this up with the original contract and add additional funds to take them through twenty twenty three of point out that prior to today's meeting one point one six million had been approved on this contract through legislative review I however you'll notice they're paid to date is a little over two point three million so that's what they're referencing when they talk about the sinking it up number four is a issue Jonesborough and this is for a consulting firm to conduct successful senior level level search for the dean of the Neil Griffin college of business number five DFA revenue services this is for their online insurance verification system number six disability determination of this is for a medical consultant to make disability determinations. The next was a start several for education department the first one is number seven this is for online college and career planning system number eight is for Katie through eight assessment testing a number nine education with Kelly consulting services for professional consultants dealing with facilities management and the facilities manual our next is education department for online college and career planning systems ten and eleven or both for that number twelve on page twenty four is four K. to public three through eight public and grades three through eight non public private parochial schools for assessment testing number thirteen is education department with pace analytical services and this is for water testing kits in lab of services for lead testing in schools number fourteen education with the renaissance learning this is to administer the star math and reading assessments students engage in grades K. through to nexus education department solution tree this is an amendment to existing contract provide professional development training for educators at selected schools based on professional learning communities at work model number sixteen is education department of this is for organizing in maintaining a technical advisory committee for the department to meet all federal requirements for assessment accountability number seventeen education with triad for electronic transcript rogue Graham and number eighteen education for another online college and career planning system number nineteen it is education educational TV this is a new contract there is a documentary project that they're doing on the selection creation installation of the statutes of Johnny Cash and daisy. Bates of that'll be placed in statuary hall in the United States capitol. Number twenty urgency management for emergency operations center A. B. enhancements upgrades and number twenty one Emergency Management for radio communication site inspections number twenty two is eighty Q. new contract a little over two million dollars for turnkey low income household water assistance program number twenty three is the health department and this is far providing training tobacco nicotine cessation counseling supplies for enrolled participants technical assistance and implementing and maintaining their online data collection tool. Number twenty four starts the out of state contracts for DHS the first one is or temporary employment services number twenty five is for linen rental and laundry services that for the Arkansas Health Center number twenty six is or agency nursing staff or the Arkansas State Hospital that C. N. A.'s LPNs and are in positions number twenty seven is waste removal and disposal for Arkansas health center number twenty eight janitorial services at the state hospital number twenty nine is State Hospital electronic records health records and patient billing system amendments to the existing contract number thirty on page thirty one is for laboratory diagnostic testing services at State Hospital number thirty one is an amendment to an existing contract for integrated management application and implementation services for the child nutrition program system number thirty two is DHS's contract of amendment for development of County profiles also called meta analysis number thirty three is or supervised independent living number thirty four comprehensive residential treatment amendment to that existing contract number thirty five is that amendment to the existing contract for electronic benefit transfer service system number thirty six is a contract amendment for preadmission screening and resident review assessments. Number thirty seven DHS contract for shredding services and number thirty eight of DHS contract with a low asset verification services number thirty nine at the bottom of page thirty five is were all aghast Commission and this is for well plugging services one point one million dollars public employee retirement on the next page up or banking services a number forty one a public service commission this is providing consulting services to this commission of. Daymark number forty two state police this is a new contract with computer aided corporation of this will be for three positions of that will work with the move team and he crash operations to help provide support technical assistance and and by the end users on the hardware software and in car systems that they have you a fable for investment advisory services specifically dealing with the management of bond funds UA Fort Smith FOR analyzing historical data and current prospective student data number forty five also for you a Fort Smith FOR strategic planning consulting services for UA Fort Smith UALR number forty six is for their new contract for the student navigation services those are the out of state contracts all right thank you Kathy. Got along on. Okay. Everybody's phones same time. All right representative Cavenaugh we're gonna start with you and who is your question for. Education department for education K. what's the contract number. Seven through fourteen and eighteen okay. A friend how's my the terminal area I got you now all right. Right. Welcome to tell just give us your names and positions and to be recognized procedure questions represent Cavenaugh thank you. Benefit your microphone on this is right there on the. Are you Sherri Baird program manager for student assessment. Ernie Hoffer says monophysites great thank you all represent Carol you're recognized for it you're right contract starting the page number twenty two it contract seven then we go to ten eleven and eighteen they're all dealing with a online college and career planning system and we have four separate contact contracts with them a million dollars each each year so we're spend of four million dollars a year on this particular service and maybe more just on these contracts what is that for so the million dollars is actually total each contract can get up to a million dollars there is a list of approved providers on our state list and so no one contract because no not all schools selected the same vendor. so each of them only get a piece of that one million dollars. Where is that because your contract says that your is amended up to a million dollars on each one of these it says it's amended to add additional funding for a million dollars on each one of the contracts so where is the languages says that nobody gets we don't get four million we only get one million. A Greg Rogers department education so it is just a million dollars a year for each one of it's not ever going above go above the million dollars when we did the art of Q. Ford for a long time the only system that we use was one called career and district for one different choices so we did the art of Q. weeks at that I think there's three six six so we have six seven that the dishes get to choose each one of them and depending on which district for use in those that's the system that will bills for some none of them will ever go over a million dollars. So you're saying there's six million dollars allocated not the four that I was talking about there's budget but we won't we won't spend the six million dollars because not all of them are going to be used in use at the same time. So we budgeted for more so you're saying that you budgeted for six but you're only going to use a million so you got five extra million dollars in your budget for this. No it we had to have a contract for each one of those And since we don't know how much each one we use the contract goes up for a million that's just allows us to have one of them use it for me and we're not going we don't plan on spending a million each one but we have to have the contract in case it does go to their. But we don't have any language in there it says that we're just going to spend a million across the board in the contract is limited to not no more than a million dollars for each one and represent calculate the paid to date you'll see like on each these a significant lower that one million dollars. Yeah but if they're six level is there what we're saying. If you had six the moment when up to a million eight. And on the contract but not. We want to spend the six man dollars up but we have to have the ability in the contract to go up to that amount but it won't go but we won't spend a million dollars six million dollars altogether on all of. Okay and this is probably going to follow Mister chair this is probably going to be very similar with contract number eight this is dealing with assessments and I think you have three of those assessments contracts in each one of them is for four point two five a year. So that's the same situation there is a state approved list there are for a vendors that you are K. two and three and assessments and so that is the maximum if all districts were picking of one specific vendor but of that's not the case they pick I mean they can only pick one but they pick from one of the four so it's a self selected process so not any of our contracts exceed that amount do we know how much we actually spend on assessments. After it's all said and done what we're actually spending on assessments. I I don't have I can get that I don't if you don't mind if they can get that along with the number of children that were using for that assessment. With the information to you okay thank you and and you all bill senator staff. All right thank you representative all rights. Senator Hammer you're recognized for a question Sir thank you Mr this is gonna be on contract of John page twenty five number fifteen solution tree. All right we need somebody else appear. Creggan take this one. I think I got help coming okay I hope you do you do. Not eagerly coming they're coming. I can give us your name and position for the record and then Senator to be recognized proceed. Go here on. Missy Wally director special projects with eighty good morning or afternoon great you might turn that middle my cough you might need help out thank you. How many schools are using solution tree right now. Within the project we have. Fifty nine here in the project cohorts one through five and were about to open a covert six and that'll be another fifteen schools that will be announced next Friday. Okay and then. Does anybody in a there was education me with last week but I remember the answers questions or to get to ask him how many independent is there any independent assessment of the results of solution tree and the services they provide to the schools that they're contracted to who determines that we're getting return on investment for the money we're spending with them okay well the independent research is happening with education northwest which is a third party vendor that they are using to do that that research and then **** the department we're looking at the different measures is to a to our in addition on measurement of expected this with that as well okay and in that measurement our teachers in the classroom part of that assessment to determine the value of what solution tree offers. So part of that is continuance and that's what they do with their leadership teams at the campus level and that does include teachers said yes teachers are part of that decision okay about election and then how many states have cancelled their contracts which solution tree or are you familiar with that information of anybody that's gotten in into contracts with them and then either terminated terminated early or just didn't renew. Not that I'm aware of could you check on that let me know because this is a seven year contract correct yes yeah okay we're in year five or six. Yes is that correct yes are your talk about within the project how many have canceled well how many how many other states have withdrawn or terminated contracts with solution tree because they did not get the results with them that I thought they were gonna get or for any other reason for that matter confident that that if you can get that the staffing it out to members yeah right okay. Because last thing is I've checked with teachers in my district they're not all real happy with solution tree and and some of the results that they are expected to do and so if I get that between now and Friday when we have a L. C. I appreciated please. Thank you. All right representative Meeks you're recognized for a question whose is what contracts is for us going to be for contract number three was Arkansas tech okay all right okay what we take to what center eleven got a question on this let me get the real quickly representative makes all get back to you. Go ahead Senator I'm right here thank you just if you could give me and it just sends to the chairs the the answers to that which schools are participating sure if we can get that in writing to such the chairs and then to the committee that would be great because I actually have the opposite I hear great things about okay all right so we get that you know sent to the since the staff's when about the members for Friday that would be great thanks okay thank you Senator all right represent missed one punch back in real quickly. Okay thank you all we got Arkansas tech Arkansas tech yes Sir okay. Good afternoon Jamie Fisher associate vice president Act impair ministration of finance with Arkansas welcome January having human would you richer they're just touch the button on the microphone ship that are yep all right reserved makes you're recognized person he's right over there and thank you Mr bring of some kind of caught my eye here that in this contract it says that you are working to promote final management of students search programs can you define what that is first off. So as I understand it this is a group that are student affairs works with with this contract to try to recruit new students to the university so I think it's about finding the right categories and classes of students that we can recruit to our university okay so that and that's that's kind of what I was thinking so my and my second question is it looks like we pay this vendor two point three million dollars to try to recruit and bring students to campus persons using in house resources out and have you all had any metrics on the success of this two point three million dollars have you. Hi we have to check and see if we have that information and get that back to you I I don't have that with me today but I'm certain that we probably have some information I could share okay I thought I would be interested in learning you know if we spent two point three million dollars and hat and and and and have not add to the student body we've just wasted two point three million dollars but if we spent two point three million dollars and we've added ten million dollars worth of revenue from that then obviously that that was worth the money so I would be very interested to see what is a good use of taxpayer dollars are absolutely we'll get to thank you all right the representative in if you just said that staff trying to get out of the members are thank you all right members center for questions without objections reasonable Senate reviewed. Mr chairman the next group of contracts or the in state contracts and these begin on page thirty nine eighty four the first one is Arkansas heritage this is for janitorial services of for their buildings the second one Arkansas heritage for marketing communication plans for the various museums number three is our also for Arkansas heritage for wood biomass administrative services and number four is their security guard services number five is community correction and this is a contract with the energy savings performance contract and this is a contract is not adding any dollars but it is adding the development design construction operation and maintenance of the software services so that's why it is on the agenda for legislators to review number six is corrections department this is for crop hauling services for the Tucker unit number seventy FAA management services for state messenger services. Number eight eight is economic development commission to operate the statewide techno technology commercialization center number nine education department for professional development training for Arkansas leadership academy numbers ten and eleven or for special education hearing officers for the education department number twelve is education school for the deaf or occupational therapy for students at the school for the deaf number thirteen emergency management for software services and maintenance number fourteen health department with you source this is an amendment to provide assistance to the Arkansas department of health promise section number fifteen We're starting a number of in state contracts and management many of them are amendments for services for DHS there are going to be twelve contract scattered throughout the next several pages they're all going to be for therapeutic counselling so I'm going to try to skip over those and just point out the ones to you that are for something else number fifteen is the first one of those that is for therapeutic counseling services as well as sixteen number seventeen is different it is for occupational physical therapy services at the Arkansas Health Center of we're skip over eighteen number nineteen is a different one it's for drug and alcohol safety education program. number twenty one is a different type of contract it's also for comprehensive substance abuse treatment services skip over to number twenty three and again the ones I'm skipping or other B. for therapeutic counseling services number twenty three is comprehensive community support and psychiatric rehabilitation program services numbers twenty four twenty five or go up but it's going to be for comprehensive substance abuse treatment services number twenty six on page fifty. Is far as speech therapy services at the state hospital number twenty seven is or pharmacy consultant at the Arkansas Health Center twenty eight is for we're skipping over it's the therapeutic counselling number twenty nine is for comprehensive substance abuse treatment services that's actually twenty nine thirty and thirty one of those. There's a few therapeutic counselling was given over to page fifty four and a contact number thirty five three thirty seven are all going to be for providing comprehensive substance abuse treatment services. Number thirty seven is for counseling services skip over to number thirty nine and forty you're going to be for operating child care aware research and for of referral agency services number forty one better beginning outreach campaign number forty two for DHS is child care aware resource and referral agency that supports family child care providers number forty three on page fifty eight is for health and well being program number forty four is for DD services number forty five is for comprehensive residential treatment services number forty six are going to be for counseling services number forty seven is an amendment for emergency shelter services number forty eight is that member that they have for therapeutic foster care services number forty nine for a supervised living program for youth ages eighteen to twenty one who elect to participate extended foster care number fifty is an amendment to the contract they have for comprehensive residential treatment services fifty one and fifty two were both going to be for extending counseling services contracts. Number fifty three as far substance abuse treatment services to DCFS. Number fifty four is one of the therapeutic foster care number fifty five fifty six or both for comprehensive residential treatment services number fifty seven on page sixty three as far resource parent training services number fifty eight is for emergency shelter services number fifty nine is far continued outpatient and are residential substance abuse treatment services. Number sixty is for counseling services sixty one home studies sixty two is to support the Arkansas coalition for obesity prevention as a partner of the Arkansas House governors of healthy are active Arkansas plan number sixty three is mail processing services number sixty four is physical therapy services at the Conway human development center sixty five is I call of psychologist services for residents of Southeast Arkansas Human development center and then sixty six is psychology services for Arkadelphia human development center number sixty seven is four of the contract for the dental hygienist services at Arkadelphia human development center of sixty eight for respiratory therapy services that Conway development center number sixty nine position services Southeast Arkansas and then occupational therapy services for Jones or he needed help the center number seventy. Seventy one on page seventy one is for occupational therapy services at Conway seventy two is where Ark occupational therapy services at Southeast Arkansas the univallate centre number seventy three is for neurology services at Conway we'll skip over to number seventy five this is another contractor DHS that does not have any dollar amount being added to it but this is for on site and inspections of care reviews health and safety licensure or certification reviews and quality of care reviews and on this one they are updating the price sheet for you services for and the performance indicators of or continuing inspection of care reviews of for that program DHS number seventy six were residential group homes for mail juveniles in D. Y. S.. Number seventy seven is a contract amendment for juvenile justice community based reentry in vocational and career support services and number seventy eight DHS contractor residential group home sex offenders offender services number seventy nine is a contract on page seventy four for information systems with wind string and this is continued telephone transition services of we've got a few here for insurance department is going to be providing of services to Medicare recipients that Texas through to number eighty four also for insurance department which on page seventy six which is for online training portal for insurance agents brokers and a sister certified applicants counselors navigators in in person the sisters of them we have eighty five through eighty seven are going to be for public defender commission and these are going to be some of contract amendments for indigent parent council representation. Texas over to page seventy seven contract number eighty eight is for grounds work and landscaping work for you a community college at Morrilton then we have you a available starting number eighty nine for the principal fail will fellows program for school leadership development training a principles you a faithful number of ninety is for cloud based IT operational monitoring tool to monitor health and status of on premises and cloud hosted infrastructure you a fable for janitorial services for the division of agriculture the cooperative extension services here in Little Rock UALR has contract number ninety two for advertising and marketing services and then you L. R. has number ninety three for Moses Tucker partners of this is far consulting services for private part of public private partnership project to redevelop the twenty two acre university plaza shopping center. Those are the in state contracts on today's agenda all right representative Cavenaugh. Your question for community corrections okay was my opportunity correction. Forty one and represent what was that a contract number eighty one contract number five. What Gillam gives your positions for the record then represented the record at recognized proceed yes thank you chairman names amber she Burton I'm general counsel for the division of community correction Jerry Bradshaw director Division to be correct thanks guys thank you I'm over here to your right this is a nine point four million dollar contract in this for energy savings performance contract and I say that it looks like we've paid it all out can you tell me how much money we saved. So the nine point four million was actually for a different contract under the energy savings performance contract it was for Energy improvements what this amendment as far as a solar services agreement so it doesn't change any part of the other contract that's already been completed I am not sure what our savings today were it's not over as far as the savings go on that part of the contract I actually did not work here at the time we executed it but I know it's being tracked I know we're getting annual reports from integrity and it's one of those performance bonds where it was actually funded the upgrades were funded through add five. and we're paying it back with savings every year unlike our electricity water heaters can you remember what else we upgraded. We did lighting updates in a couple units so right so it actually separate from the solar services agreement that we're here for today I got a question how are you gonna at solar systems without more money else any additional. So the way they do it it's actually integrity is who are contracted with and I think several other state agencies of contracted with them as well and they have private investors to leverage tax benefits and so we're actually doing there's one of two options some agencies I think the department of corrections the Division of correction actually is doing one on their own lands we're doing one that integrity is actually leasing the land building and owning the array and all the agreement requires us to do is to purchase electricity from them at rates that are projected to be significantly less than if we had purchased from SWEPCO. Okay. A chair I would like to ask that you provide me for how much savings did you have done over the last of this contract because it says the energy savings contract was five nine point four mil so for that contract that was supposed to be for energy savings can you tell me through the life of the contract what we say. Yes ma'am we'll get that information for you I appreciate if you send it thank you that staff will get that out all members yes Sir great thank you thank you representive all right members see no for questions and without objection is out of those interviewed. Thank you. Mr chairman of F. one was of a request by the department of corrections it's been pulled from this agenda so won't be going over that that takes us to reports and we have three types of reports on today's agenda the first report G. one or for a contract with no material change. so they're being reported to the committee of group two of it or the contracts that or executed contracts below the threshold there are seven seventy pages of those and in the final group of contracts G. three are considered critical emergency procurements and there are thirteen of these procurements that are done with local hospitals by the health department for COVID medical beds and those are the reports that are on today's agenda all right Senator Rice you're recognized if you could own going over G. three with the health department okay. But the health department here. Welcome to call give us your names and positions for the record and Senator you're recognized proceed. Today Mallory chief of staff health department Joe Thompson CFO. Senator you're recognized proceed with thank you thank you for being here today just basically and the larded of Matt Gilmore might be some questions on this just for transparency the the contracts that we're dealing with that shows contract period from February fourth of this year to March thirty first those were proved that I can January that right. Hello just a second. If you if you have there what was the the total. I thank thank I've got a email that showed was like fifty two million total. Yes this round contracts yes and I believe I saw on there all the one hospital. it spent all that okay are. What percentage of beds were reviews are is the payment. Full payment made regardless of use of better not just because are available with the used. Yes Sir we paid per bed per day regardless of whether those bands were take it or not now at the height of the of a micron those beds were were taken on you know it it was a moving target every day because you know once we got the information it contains five minutes from the end but we do know that there was paid there were patients on a routine basis holding in smaller facilities to to get in those beds and this was all the hearts of funds The right range of those beds was from forty five hundred just seventy five hundred four dollars. the one ahead Senator five hundred four dollars is once got about two point nine million remaining is that. It is a contract over that money be returned or. It'll be. It's just not we would have never paid that that money out they have to invoice us for for those bads so if for some reason they they cut those bed short or you know cut the state short and I wouldn't build this for those bands this show is about two point eight million yes is in the dates are over with as of three thirty one so yes there was a question in the invoicing that was submitted and so my office off the finding is requested we just ask for more information so we actually received additional invoicing today and on the amount of nine hundred and sixteen thousand but the beds have been you stay the a credit we had reports that they did use the best but just the invoice and was a little off so we just ask for additional information okay with that that is been resolved that was years before the three thirty one yes deadline. Okay However however these locations selected. So what we did Senator is we looked at the the facilities that were normally receiving facilities with the higher level of care and we sent an email out to those facilities I in we need we need I see you beds can you spend those up within a certain amount of time for us to. Question yes sorry okay of. And all these hospitals are accredited and and I mean there's criteria they have to meet yes consider or or any of these funded hospitals responsible that you know for terminating a non vaccinated employees without the exemptions statuses that allowed by federal rules. Not to my knowledge at you know to meet CMS requirements in that federal mandate there were there was and the ability to have both a relief medical and religious exemption know whether they terminated employees after that mandate went into effect I don't know that okay was that is the health department funding a facility like that if they did not follow federal federally federal guidelines is there any any call back on that if if they don't follow federal guidelines we you know our surveyors actually under CMS rules and state licensure rules we go in and make sure that those facilities are following on. Regulations and so you know part of what we look at is they do have that exemption available in look at those exemptions that that have been requested in in you know this this is behind us we don't know that we will face it again in the future very soon it could well have that is here and here's my concern. There were entities that we're all trying to do a good job protecting the vote yes I mean the old I'm said with all the criticism we've given department after whatever we all. Loud you for the efforts we appreciate that thank you. And I I hear that my colleagues to they may not tell you but we've tried to say that some as we go along thank you here's my concern sure is towards the end. Around this funding time. There are certain facilities that. They seem to. Be very genuine. And how far they could push. What the federal rules say they can do. For extreme hailed. Beliefs. We column religious exemptions but it's not always has to be. Exactly what I'm our minds definition thanks that is all. So we had some paper what I thank. Did some good things in and really looked at it to see what they could do to keep their facility staffed and all in all everybody wonderfully stay we had some already known that came out and said. You don't paid it but this deadline your girl. And I would I would say they did not have the same mindset looking at exemptions that others and I'm again I'm not preaching the health department yes Sir I'm saying in the future I hope we can find a way. That we do not disrupt and invests five. We all had had people we know the past relative had one two. But I wish we could have come up with some kind of guideline that everybody. TransCanada same level to find a way to get some dead and we funded them just like the ones that did. I just wanted for transparency talk about not only the amount of money we're talking about. But the amount of lives again that were lost due to the. COVID also the lives of changing disruptive because we probably didn't do things in my view as fair as we could have across the board again as not to help part did you always want to the money was going through I'd love for us to do better job before or after they said in the thank you Mr thank you senator thank you all for being here thank you thank you okay thanks one second. At the last minute here represent Alessi's. Thank you just a help me understand something this suggests it's for. Health department if you've got a contract in here for three million five hundred twenty eight thousand for sixty three beds look like they're going to calmly Fort Smith and then your enemy turn the page you got the same exact situation with another contract number for three million. I just kind of wanted a clarification on. Sir I don't I don't have would you have could you yeah what was that contract number again it's. Page five of thirteen. And paid six. What I can I can explain to you the you know the contract and the arrangement with Baptist health and maybe they can explain it initially when they submitted their their proposal to us they only had two locations identified so we had a certain amount of money at the time and this the same rate the four thousand five hundred dollar per be it rate and then they submitted. A revised proposal so as we did we use the same amount of money the same total award but we just force and or we allocate a proportion of that amount to a third location so does that kind of help well maybe are I mean so would would you be saying then that the total contract amount would be more like six and a half million yes if we combine all of those it would be closer to about almost seven million okay at the only thing that confused me was that that the description and the contract somewhere the same twenty eight I guess beds the Conway twenty four port Smith and eleven Van Buren on both contract numbers. Yes what I'm what I the only thing I can sum up with that is that there was a change along during the process we didn't increase the amount that was being given to that hospitals different locations but because they did request to allocate funds to another location it's probably confusing and however the paperwork is set up so so you would say then that that contract amount it's not too contracts for three million something it's one contract center that was over six million. We'll it was a contract to Baptist health for three different locations within back to sell so yes one contract three different locations and each location had their own amount within that contract so those would Baptist I guess the part that's confusing is the description of. But at least these two contracts seems to indicate that it's the exact same sixty three beds being funded twice is that makes sense that is not that was not the case and I apologize for any of you in that but it should have been one contract three locations would actually have the amounts of how much we allocated it was three point five million to Conway one point three million to Van Buren and three million to Fort Smith what was the first amount three point six three point five to Conway okay thank you appreciate the representatives I think that for just looks like maybe just sloppy reporting. Thank you hello submitted to this the staff. All right listen thank you all very much these are reported items in the new not require review and see no further items to come before this committee we are adjourned.