ALC-Hospital, Medicaid, & Developmental Disabilities Study Subcommittee
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Senator Jane English
Unverified
5:26
Good morning. Welcome to the committee meeting. I call this meeting to order and this morning one of the things we're going to do today is we're going to kind of look at the audit that the alliance for Opportunity did for us and kind of go through that so everybody received a copy of it you were emailed a copy hopefully you had a chance to go through it and kind of look at one of the things the things that they were talking about in here that they pointed out they did a lot of work
and there's a lot of things we probably already know but it was very good to be able to read them and some of the they have some key recommendations for us to think about and which is something we'll be doing as we move along so I'm gonna turn this over to Mary p re
Representative Mary Bentley
Unverified
6:17
s ent ative Bentley thank you senator and again thank you all for showing up. I know that we've we've been meeting quite often but this is really an important topic I think something transformative that were really changed the lives of ouransas
and move Arkansas in a direction we have not been in we've been spending so much money and not really seeing any results for all the money that's been invested and I know that all of you know our ouransas work quite hard for their tax dollars so I'm extremely excited about moving things forward we've done so much with Arkansas Lens and moving our kids forward and with access we've got education moving in a good direction but we need to get those people up that have been stuck in poverty for a long time moving forward so I'm excited about it really you want to start off with a key recommendations I think we'll I think that would be good
so if you guys can look in this report and the audits starting on page 8. I love when we're looking at actionable steps to move things forward here I think it's if you look in the middle on on page nine it's just really excited to see the thoughts that they had moved forward of just getting regional alignment
because each part of our state there's different things that will affect the northeast part of the state the northwestt very different things that are going on so we can come things at work our economic development and our workforce areas and regional asking get
the the regions together working together I think it's extremely important for us to be working forward and integrating work into everything that we do especially when we folks that are going to the DHF's offices if we look and see that's really the one spot in many of our rural districts you know we can come here to Lit Ark and see so many opportunities for people here that just are not available at in the rural part of our state so if we can use our DHS offices and integrate those and get all of those folks trained to what's available for the for our constituents that in rural Arkansas would it be education or work training but have those
folks just just even thinking there is a whole different mindset because right now when you go in the workforce office everything is are you eligible for food stamps so you're eligible for medicaid but this is the first thing is what job opportunities are available to you what can we do to move you forward because some of these people hadn't really even thought about that in a long time they feel trapped and have just felt like they're at a dead end so just trying to move things forward on that thing's really exciting for us to look at that what can we do to get those folks aware of what's available education wise and training wise and I think with snap ENt and all those things we'll really be able to
Senator Jane English
Unverified
8:34
move move folks forward so that's my opening comments so we'll go go from there and I think those the the thinking about things on a regional basis of all the workforce programs and all the DhS programs thinking about those on a regional basis rather than an individual site and that and then unfortunately that's what happens so many times as we have an individual site or an individual workforce area that has its own
plan and has its own things rather than something that it goes across the across the state of Arkansas so we had those key recommendations and one of them was to integrate the administrative structure and that's kind of to move from these siloed agencies that we've got throughout the state government and put put them together in one agency so that we have one group of people and everybody's talking about the same things
and then we have an integrated service delivery which is exactly the same thing it's kind of rather than across the state each individual DHS office and workforce office and healthcare health health department office all of these things would have a central theme and location and a plan that goes across all of them but as aspresentative Bentley said today what happens is is that people go and apply
for a benefit they do not go and apply for a job or think about that in in a job and some of the things that they where they have an opportunity to go they don't have all of the options that the rest of us would have to be able to go in and and see what kinds of programs are available at the two year college or free training or whatever else that's out there in their region of the state so they miss out on those opportunities never really get a chance for a future
Representative Jack Ladyman
Unverified
10:44
Representativeladyman, would you like to check in? I I just had a question Mary if
y'all are ready to take a couple of questions
Representative Mary Bentley
Unverified
10:53
or maybe it's a discussion instead of a question we had hoped to be in room 151 so we'd have more of a discussion but it's not available today so I'm sorry we're having to bounce around and
Representative Jack Ladyman
Unverified
11:03
look around the call yes we're this is discussion time today yes well on page eight there where you were talking about that and I I really liked the idea of having one source I believe that's
something that we need to do not just in this area but in a lot of areas. but on page eight down there at the bottom it talks about a imposed start date of July1,2027 for legislation recommended and then it talks about a new name a new secretary and and create new work groups is I mean where is the executive branch on this are we talking about an additional secretary? are we talking about replacing
Senator Jane English
Unverified
11:46
one of the current secretaries what's what's the thoughts on that? So these were just recommendations that they made and all of that would be to be determined and that's what we will all be discussing but I think that the I believe that the executive branch and the legislative branch will be working together on all of this because it ' s to everybody's benefit so that that what you're asking that question is really to be determined and that's what our committee will be doing. OK so
Representative Jack Ladyman
Unverified
12:18
has has the members of the executive branch been following us and working along
Representative Rick Beck
Unverified
12:29
with this ok all right thank you you're welcome Representative Beck thank you madam chairir. I I sort of question discussion I guess and this might be one of those another falls in that category you'll be determined later but it's it's a we we've seen a lot of cases where where services are being
provided and you know we we go through one tier and then we go down to another tier another a department and then maybe another department down and each one of them is adding administrative cost to whatever block grant they're operating under and all that and you know it's 12%12%,12% before you go too far you're you're you're out of money right or have very little money to to provide services so my question or my discussion I guess would be more
like this I do like the idea of having the central location to where we can you know a person can go and we we can get out we instead of collecting different data in 10 different locations we've got all the data right here and this is this is our path forward type of approach I do like that but it's just would this be done in a matter of where we're adding another layer are are we gonna I guess cut into an existing layer as far as the administrative costs and all of
Senator Jane English
Unverified
13:49
that for this think it really is to reduce the administrative costs if you go through this and look at what they determined while they were doing their studying is is that no inordinate amount of money goes for administrative and infrastructure costs and very little of that money comes goes to servicing or training for people that they're very small amount of money that anybody gets to get or every organization has so the goal here really is to increase the
number of the amount of dollars that we're spending
on people and reduce the amount of dollars we're spending
Representative Rick Beck
Unverified
14:33
on administration just a discussion so so what what it is there is there is it possible and within our legislation that we could somehow put in in that we would be able to say ok there there are people who are strictly administrative and that's what they do they have their snakes and and what
they're doing is is great but you know we find too often in reference to what you just said that there's where all the money's going and very little of the money is going to the actual people who are doing the training or providing the service to someone trying to get them self sufficient is there any way that we can integrate within whatever proposal that we put together that those sort of a a generic guideline as to what percentages of the funds should be spent at the administrative level versus
the level where the to the people that are actually what I would call frontline workers they're actually helping the people get
Representative Mary Bentley
Unverified
15:29
self sufficient what's your on that that's the recommendations that that's what we're after right that's what the task of this committee is to bring recommendations that can definitely be part of
the recommendations that we that we get down into
and if you look at to me I love on page eight where we need to know
and I was going to ask Caitlin to do for us is to find out what is the Eabbijali requirements for each one of these programs like for huD and forsnap and for ENT all of them have different entry
levels what is that can we consolidate that so to me if we can get eligibility also in one spot it's going to decrease the amount of administrative costs and all that and get it all working in one focus get everybody to work there's a whole plan how can we get people earn money and get people that
are in that are trapped in poverty out of that. So if it's ok we'll add uhpresentative Pilkington into the
Representative Aaron Pilkington
Unverified
16:16
conversation. thank you chairs and I I don't have a binder in front of me and I'm a little late to the conversation so if I'm saying anything redundant, please
just shush me but I mean it seems like from what I've seen with a lot of the new with especially the AI recommendations from the governor that came out recently a lot of this though if we can just get a central database that uses artificial intelligence. it can interact with the constituents to get the information and then self ppopulate this information, let them know what programs are eligible and things like that. I mean I think in some ways we try to reinvent the wheel but a centralized hub can be virtual and then of course as we expand
telehealth with rural health transformation dollars as well. I think there's a real opportunity to use some of those telehealth services to do it so a good example if you've got an app on your phone that's your you know eligible to use because you have medicaid yet at the same time while that is taking its information from you. it can ask you a few extra questions it needs then auto ppopulate that information into certain forms and let you know other things you're available for and also probably notify the Department oforkforce services that you are available for work to then send that
information to employers who are actively working for people to work so I don't know if we've had any discussions with the AI vendors or anything like that but I think this is something that that new technology can drastically help us with because we're talking about large amounts of data that we're going to have to comb through and having a program like that that's already doing it I think could massively save us a lot of money and to represent a beck's point I think we're we don't have as large of an administrative cost because we're not using people we're using a program and then the people are actually there on the ground getting them into these services as opposed to being
Representative Mary Bentley
Unverified
17:57
stuck in an office and we're helping someone fill out a form so just want to add that to the conversation. Yeah I think that's highly especially when we're looking at DHS they're already talked about using AI and all that for filling out different forms and getting people but again we're going to have those constituents that don't have that technology in order everyone definitely have case managers available I want you know even each one of our offices DH offices across the state to have people have case managers there to help those folks that aren't to that point right that are because we have different age groups different people. some are very comfortable doing stuff on the phone and others are not
so I just want us to get everybody I want us to have an opportunity for us to make sure those people that are trapped in poverty for generations have a way to get out and someone to help them do that and also I think the way that we do this will hold people accountable I think that's important you know when we have we're bringing in our different community organizations to help people accountable and have people on the right track that are not you know that are actually moving forward and not just trapped in the system and using the system to not go forward and they have something else they want to add to the conversation looking at these key key points moving forward
Senator Jane English
Unverified
19:04
I think all of these two are
opportunities for us as we move forward to have conversation groups and some organized because AI is a really big thing and so that deserves to have a working group of people to to study AI and and what it could bring to this conversation so I'm hoping we'll have a number of different working groups to look at each of these issues
and and have people together to talk about it not just
Representative Jack Ladyman
Unverified
19:46
legislators but other folks as well yeah Representative Lederman thank you madam chairman. looking at page fi3 where's the one door to work. I think that's a great idea. like a clearing house maybe and you know, I think if you could make that work if we could focus on some groups
that I think are are not participating in the labor market because just difficulties that they might have you mentioned pe people that are in generational poverty maybe they live in rural areas and are not aware of any programs or the programs that's one group that needs to be focused on but I think there's a couple of others you know, I I believe we need to tap in more to people that are coming out of prison for a bunch of reasons so that
they don't go back but you know it's very difficult for those folks to connect they have no resources maybe they don't even have any family I think we need to focus group on that that would add a lot of people to our labor market and also people moving into the state you know our population's growing maybe sometimes they're they don't know our departments or who to
contact to find you know a job that they're looking for that maybe they hadn in another state. So I think if we can have some focus groups and I believe that's what you're talking about here the working groups that
Senator Jane English
Unverified
21:20
I think that would be a good thing to consider. and one of the things I think that there's
probably a the forefront of all of this is we have somebody just as you mentioned that has to sometimes have to go456 different agencies to get the same paperwork almost
filled outstead of being able to know that this is the place these are the these are the pieces of paper you have to fill out and that would go across all these agencies as well as here are all the programs that are available for you as a person coming in so that you have an opportunity to look at what you might want to take advantage of what are the options out there today if you just go into the DHS office of county operations office
nobody has any idea inside of there what the possibilities could be we need to change that so that folks that are going into that office would actually have the benefit of knowing what those programs are that are out there that might be able to help them and and not just to go for a benefit but how is this program or this benefit gonna help you to get where you need to be in the work world. the goal really is to start figure out and when there's no silver bullet for everybody
that's that's in that it's not working today or is on the some of these programs today but how do we build a system that includes everything so that the people 10 years from now or 12 or 15 or 20 years from now aren't part of this system but they have been able to find themselves a a career pathway in the future and that's kind of what our our education is the beginning of that so all of these things are kind of working together there's no one silver
bullet or one program that's going to solve it all
it's a combination of a lot of things it's a system and a system
Representative Rick Beck
Unverified
23:24
is not a group of federal programs right Representative Bec thank you madam chairir I I I wanna
jump uhpresentative Pilkington commented on what I said I'm gonna comment back on what he was he had said but but I I think the AI is a perfect is a perfect way to push us forward because it it really addresses the issue at two pointsumber one
is AI will be much more efficient than having offices full of people trying to interpret data so that that always works better and I think that if it's done right AI's just priceless right but if it's done wrong it's it's a it's just another barrier and it will be a barrier as you mentioned earlier to some of the people that you know aren't very computer literate or digital literate or whatever you wanna say but I I think
part of the program also ought to be that with the with the AI group using that as an administrative that we make sure that there's oversight as to how that system is working because I've seen a lot of times in the past we put a system in and oh it's a great system and it works really well we get5 years down the road no one's using it because it's not as great as we we thought it was so almost like a continuous feedback loop as to if someone's not using it why are they not using it what what what's the
hurdle that stopped them that way we can make can I guess I'm being an advocate for having someone working continuously on it don't just do a one and done on an AI thing and say the world's gonna be great to make sure that it works because if we the more that we can push into that arena it means the more people that we can pull out of those offices and put them in front of people actually helping on the on an individual basis so I think it's important that we don't just try a one and done approach to
Representative Mary Bentley
Unverified
25:14
that think that's what Senator English was saying
it's gonna have to be different for for a lot of different folks so we don't need we want no wrong door right? Every door is an open opening for us to get people back to work and and with AI you know we're looking at maybe5050 million if we don't get our error rate decrease onsnap it's really important that we get a more efficient and effective system so to me that'd be a way for us to hopefully get that number down below6 and we're not going to lose that50 million out of
Senator Dan Sullivan
Unverified
25:41
general revenue. All right, Senator Sullivan. thank you madam chairir. Maybe I've
missed it and I apologize. Is there an estimate of how much
we're going to save with this or we're going to spend but we have no
Representative Mary Bentley
Unverified
25:54
estimate what we save no we just we have just looked at you know if we look at the audit here if you go through and see how much money we're spending now on workforce and that's just strictly on workforce the money we're spending we're spending very little on actual training individuals of my insecu them out when the recipe's being spent on administrative costs so we're trying to take you know not necessarily spend less money but spend that money that we're getting federally more efficiently and effectively to actually get people to work and
Senator Dan Sullivan
Unverified
26:19
not just spending money on an office that's allgre and that's what we hope for but at some point it seems like we would have an a range of what we expect to save and what that cost savings is and it seems like that would come fairly early and what with this group plans to do we're going we lay out you're going to do these things it seems like a deliverable would be to come up
with cough estimates and our savings estimates that can be redirected somewhere needs to show up in
Representative Mary Bentley
Unverified
26:55
a deliverable yeah no I agree we'll have that yeah
I think we'll definitely have that as well thank you thank
Representative Matt Brown
Unverified
27:07
you uhpresentative Brown thank you madam chairir. I am assuming that a lot of people who I don't know majority or just a large number but I'm assuming a number of people who
are receiving benefits or who might be eligible for benefits of some sort have possibly got a bunch of misdemeanors and and issues like that lack of driver's license and things like that and people who are coming out of department oforrections that would be eligible to become productive citizens and and and have reason not to reoffend to go back to prison
are we going to be incorporating any of this with their workforce objectives so that we so we can so that we can maybe possibly keep more people from reoffending just to get three huts in
Senator Jane English
Unverified
28:08
a cot. I think the the goal is is to try and get increase the labor force participant participation rate it's not just the unemployment rate it's all these people that are out there that aren't in part of the workforce and they
are part of that workforce so some of those things that you're talking about I think will be our perfect place for the governor's 1033 where they're working hard to try and get to those people and some folks in communities that are in some really untenable situations and how to help them be able to move out of those situations which may not be exactly the same as so many at a workforce services office being able to help somebody with
their a career pathway but sometimes you have to have those other things going alongside to help people move forward and the and the goal really is is how do we get more people into the workforce and and not not and a lot of them are not sitting at home then you will find as we start looking through here that there are a lot of people who are working but they're not making very much money so they qualify for most of these programs so we'll be
looking at all of that as well but but but you're the group that you're talking about is exactly who
Representative Mary Bentley
Unverified
29:31
we're trying to get part of this wonderful thank you Representative
Representative Rick Beck
Unverified
29:36
Beck I'll I'll try to I I want to comment on on the deliberal comment which I think
is a who which I think is a great ideal but I I would I'm not so much interested am not gonna say that but what what I'm gonna say is this I think the deliverable needs to
be tied to performance directly like how how many dollars are we spending to to per person that we're putting making them self sufficient into the system you know that type of deliberals to where it'll have an automatic built in feature where it says ok you know you're doing what we want you to do and that's where you're how you're getting the dollars and trying to keep those dollars under check just like Senatorulllivan said as far as uhpresentative Brown's comment I think that's that's great
because I think you know if you don't certainly the ones individuals coming out of prison system you know if you don't do something they'll be back in a couple of years and and and that's at a cost to the taxpayers so so why not do that but I think one of the things that we ought to try to do is to say if we can help with this system to make the best system it's the system you wanna plug into if you want to get a job and then invite the people from the apartment corrections when individuals are coming out of
that system to be able to plug into this system because this is the system that's gonna take you from what was the thing opened the door the one door to to employment so I think that's a great idd I think both those are great ideas thank you awesome so I think
Representative Mary Bentley
Unverified
31:12
you know when we're looking at this if we can get this with the with the reentry programs that we currently have and get them all into this data hub and know what's available regionally for those people to get a good job and training that we're going to move people out and we know that's going to be definitely more successful for keeping them out of prison if we can get them
Senator Jane English
Unverified
31:29
a good job and moving forward with community support well and one of the things I think too is that that hopefully what we're going to see as I
said we're not there's no silver bullet for today, but if some of the things that we're doing in education and we're trying to help people find a career pathway hopefully down the road those numbers of people will be less and less going into prison, going on the medicaid going on to snap some of these things because they have a life and they are they're productive citizens and they're being able to support their
families to senatorulllivan's thing I think if you look in here one of the things that you have found we found was that through our weoa our workforce things we we have about $14 million that goes out to all the 10 workforce development areas out of that 14 million dollars,1.5 million dollars was spent on training and programs in one of the areas
the only training program that they had was CDL bus truck drivers now there's a lot of people in that area but that's the only training program they had so those are the kinds of return on investment I think we're hoping that we change is that instead of $1.5 million for training that we have upwards of that amount
of money and less spent on administrative costs and infras right Representativeladyman
Representative Jack Ladyman
Unverified
33:01
thank you ma'amir. yeah, I I appreciate what Representative Brown talked about there and you know we've talked about people coming out of prison but there are a lot of people you know if you've been to the courts and you've seen how many people are in there and they're in this legal process they might be in that for a year or two and employers won't hire those people because they don't want to train them they don't know where they're gonna go, what's going to happen so I think we're missing out on
some productivity there if we had a way to connect those people with companies or employers who would be willing to give them the job while they're going through the legal process. I believe there's a whole bunch of people in that group and I believe they're nonproductive right now and I believe they could be productive if they had the right connections to people that would
be willing you know to bring them on board for that period of time even though there's some unknowns there and that's just another group that we can identify and if we all got together and think about it there's probably other groups where we could really increase our workforce. So anyway, I just wanted
Representative Mary Bentley
Unverified
34:18
to make that comment thank you and think I think it's key that we again that we have worked actual industry leaders involved in this conversation because too many times they're left out right and so exactly what do they need and how can we connect it's gonna be key to
making sure we move this forward in the manner that
Representative Matt Brown
Unverified
34:36
we want it to. Sopresentative Brown thank you madam chairir. Two things I'm I'm not quite certain but I believe we're going to be trying to address the benefit clips while we're doing all of this definitely part of the conversation and then another thing that think is very concerning is that we have people involved with DHs which I mean I've got a con it's not
my constituent but a constituent has reached out to me he and his wife are going through all kinds of nightmares with classes and counseling and stuff. he is a productive person making at least 100,000 a year. He has lost $20,000 in annual income simply because of all the classes he's been having to take for things they have not been accused of. We need to look at DHS and see what they're doing
Representative Mary Bentley
Unverified
35:33
to hinder people from making a living while we're at it well that's definitely part of this committee's task so we'll look forward
Senator Dan Sullivan
Unverified
35:42
to digging deep into that as well so Senator Sullivan thank you madam chairir. Yeah I think this idea
that we believe this and we hope this and we anticipate this those are some of those are known numbers we know how many people are incarcerated we have a projection that the people that are doing the study should be able to project that we hope to
improve that number by x and that when those people are involved in the workforce that they're going to make a salary we know what the average salary is with why is and hopefully these people have had experience doing this so it's not just us out on an island hoping and believing there are real numbers out there to to go by we know what those numbers are they can get those from other states and other places they've been involved in you know I don't know any of us that would that would be willing
to invest anything not knowing what a return on investment is and I think that is a requirement to give us a range and they can give us a range based upon what their expectations are and if we expect if these things happen this will be our return if those things happen, this will be our return. Surely they can have the the data out there from other projects and ongoing with this
project to give us feedback on their and I see that in the document that they'll give us continual updates on their success what what determines success? I mean the success saving money is success putting people in jobs and losing money what what determines
Senator Jane English
Unverified
37:24
that? I don't know our our goal really for this committee was to look at social program and workforce development reform so looking at
all the myriad probably40 different workforce development programs and about 80 social services programs so of all of those programs how efficient are they and how are they helping to serve people and how do we do a better job of coordinating those efforts so that more so that we're not just spending billions of dollars a year and it's going out the door but we don't see any any benefit to the people that they're serving or that they're with you
1% those numbers should be quantifiable don't know that we have those numbers that that's what our consultants began to
Senator Dan Sullivan
Unverified
38:21
help us to come up with those numbers don't don't not necessarily disagreeing I'm saying those
numbers should be quantifiable that they're quantifiable now we may not have it and that may be their first project is to quantify what those data points are because that's what we're going to use to make the projection about how much we're gonna save or how
much we're gonna lose in this so yeah I think we're not disagreeing with you but I just wanna be clear that I think there needs to be some ranges out there on what they think we're wasting on our our savings on and what that number will be thank you thank you senator and I agree with you 100% there's
Representative Mary Bentley
Unverified
39:01
no reason we can't get an ROI and what we're trying to do and once we get them specific data what what specific goals we want to go for as well so we have to set out what we want to do
and once we get those data points then we can move forward and get in some specific yeah awesome good deal right anybody else want to chime in on this conversation at this point So right
Senator Jane English
Unverified
39:30
we're going to move to jill. Sure. so Miss Thayyer if you would like
to join us please at the table and we will talk about our contract
Yeah mason's on the the team on the teams so in case we have questions they are here there he is thank you for joining us and a few identify yourself
Speaker 85
40:01
you'll be recognized. thank you madam Chairjill Thayer Bureau of Legislative Research. and I think you should all have and is it in their packets Kate yes you should all have in your packet a copy of a draft
consultant services agreement between the bureau and worked consulting Llc who Mr Bishop represents. I'm just going to go over the main terms of this contract for y'all and then I'll be happy to answer any questions. attachment A to this contract sets out the statement of work that work Ed would perform for this subcommittee as it relates to your study that you were just discussing that was assigned to you under
Act 145 of2025. if you'll look at page two this contract would be effective March 20th. The reason for that is if this subcommittee decides today to move forward with this contract it will then go through the executive subcommittee at its March 19th meeting and then final approval would be by the full legislative council on March 20th and once that occurs Marty would be able to director garrty would be able to sign the contract and it would be effective the contract would run
through June30th of 2027. This would provide you with this consultant's assistance through the regular session if there is legislation that results from your study they can assist with that the maximum contract amount under this contract is $158,000. the bureau always sets out a maximum contract amount that's based on actual billable hours uhorked has set out their fees and estimated expenses in
attachmentb to the contract so they would bill us monthly we would pay them for actual hours worked and actual travel expenses up to $158,000. if they were requested to perform any services outside the statement of work that set forth here you would have the ability to request an additional 10% from the and that would be approved by the legislative council chairs. they do have a few subcontractors listed that
they'd like to utilize in this contract and they are members of the Georgia Center for Opportunity team that assisted you and completed the audit and recommendations that you were just reviewing and they are also listed under the fees and expenses. The rest are just our typical contract terms and I would be happy to answer any questions. Senatorulllivan thank you
Senator Dan Sullivan
Unverified
42:49
my questions may be directed to Mr Bishop if that's is that appropriate at this time
he's thank you for being here first of all and appreciate it and and I may have missed out some of the meetings or some of the questions you may have already answered I apologize for that
so are the deliverables that are in this contract services are those similar to what
Speaker 92
43:16
you've done in other states and they're very similar to my earliest experience in
Speaker 93
43:21
Utah in the 1990s when I was directly involved in creating the Utah Department of Workforce Services
Senator Dan Sullivan
Unverified
43:29
so I've been at this for about30 years was here when you did that I think you've been here to give a presentation haven't you? yeah and I remember being here at that one so again I just wanted to get that on record that you that so are you able then with your previous experience able to give us on go ing return on investment updates when you give those updates you'll be able to come and say here are what we're here's what we're doing this we know the
cost so this will the anticipated savings at this point and those certainly are we anticipate those will change as circumstances change but will that be included in your reports
Speaker 93
44:11
yes absolutely we can do that and I should add that my most recent experience was in Louisiana helping them go through their yearlong process of moving from an executive order task force in their case to legislation a year later so
Senator Dan Sullivan
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44:29
absolutelyI is something we can absolutely help you would see a need to have that in a contract is that normal it's in a contract and I don't mind doing an abnormal but I would see that as having language in the contract that says we're gonna get ongoing return on investment updates and we and
Speaker 93
44:50
we define what that is is that unusual? No I mean absolutely I'm open to whatever deliverables activities you want in the contract and that would be
appropriate at this point you know, I think we left it somewhat highle so that there would be flexibility that I could be directed by you and by the chairs to do the
Senator Dan Sullivan
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45:11
work that you need me to do som fine with that it's got it's got to be fairly general because it's very dynamic in what you're addressing and the conditions change with every new study you do or the outcomes ok thank you very much RI
Speaker 100
45:26
absolutely we can give you ongoing RI updates absolutely
Senator Dan Sullivan
Unverified
45:28
and can you provide that language if you just I guess
it's in another contracts can you work withblr to provide samples of what that language looks like. I hate
Speaker 95
45:38
to create something new if it's already doneenatorulllivvan I would
Speaker 85
45:41
say if that's the will of the subcommittee we'll get it added to the statement of work for what's presented to the executive subcommittee may have to come up with my own contract
Senator Dan Sullivan
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45:49
then because I want to see it thank you Representativelademan thank you madam chairir. I
Representative Jack Ladyman
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46:04
have a question on the contract on that attachment A that first paragraph and I dont hope I'm not duplicating what Senator Sullloan just asked but it talks about services and technical assistance as directed by the co-chairs of this subcommittee and not that I distrust our chairs of this subcommittee but is there any and it talks aboutbl our and it talks aboutblR staff but would the co-chairs of
council or anyone else need to review these requests on an ongoing basis or I don't know maybe chairr can dress that is
Speaker 85
46:46
that necessary? the subcommittee is defined at the beginning of the contract as this subcommittee and that's typically how we do that it wants legislative council authorizes you to utilize the consultant by approving the contract and they leave it to the final say on that is usually the chairs of that subcommittee.
Representative Jack Ladyman
Unverified
47:08
I know a lot of times when we have things like this we'll have just the chairs of council sign off just so that they know what's going on I don't know in this case whether that's necessary or not maybe the chairs might want to
comment on that but just a question about oversight. I'll just say that
Representative Mary Bentley
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47:26
we have kept the chairs of LC in form of every every move that we make. they have been keenly they've been involved in conversations and as we move forward with this whole thing we brought them in to make sure that they're keenly
aware of what we're doing as well as the administration knows exactly what we're doing and moving forward so it's the will of this committee we're just at right now looking at recommendations but think it's highly important to have mason and his group working with us to make sure that we're moving in the right direction. This is very this is complex this is not what we're trying to do here is transformative and nothing simple I think it's really important if we want to do it correctly to have folks that have done it elsewhere in other states to bring us and move us forward in the direction that we want to go so that's what today's contract is to make sure we have their their keen
insight and their experience to move us forward in the direction that we want to go and and do it in a in a faster manner we're trying to get things done pretty quick during as even now we're moving forward with the waivers and stuff for workforce. these are things moving forward instantly that we want to get their input on and they'll be able to attend zoom with us to meetings that we have with
Representative Jack Ladyman
Unverified
48:28
this group so hope that answers your question'm not making a recommendation for
that I just thought it was something that we need to consider and think about thank you madam chair
Representative Mary Bentley
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48:42
have any other questions see no the discussions I have a motion by anyone to move forward with this contract. Representative Beck and doing his in a second senatorulllivan all those in favor of this moving forward with this contract sayy Iy those opposed all right thank you committee looks like we'll move forward with the contract Mason, thank you so much. we look forward to
some amazing trem stormal things happening here
Senator Jane English
Unverified
49:16
in Arkansas thank you so much it's exciting we we have something really really exciting that we can do here in state government we've done
some exciting things over the past few years but I think this is probably one of the most exciting things
we we're finished if see no other business we are adjourned thank you
Agenda
A. Call to Order
B. Discussion of Final Report Provided by Georgia Center for Opportunity [Exhibit B]
C. Approval of Proposed WorkED Consulting, LLC Contract
D. Discussion of Recommendations by Subcommittee
E. Other Business
F. Adjournment
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