Legislative Joint Auditing - Executive Committee

Members false in the audits thank you for being here today. Our first order of business is the adoption of the minutes of the september seventh twenty twenty three mini I have a motion I have a second all the favorite I opposed that has passed. Members are new business today is a request by sergeant hickey request for special audit and procedures and sent hickey you are welcome to come to the. And surf you would identify yourself. Yeah. Thank you mister chair you want me to begin yesterday you're welcome and starting to the please identify yourself i'm jimmy heaky arkansas state senate thank you images the moment please chair sorry members what I want to do is just i'm on one of breed what I had sent to the chairs of this committee and also legislative audit I want to do that first and then we'll kind of proceed from there so what i'd say to them is it just dear chairman wallace and chairman gas away pursue it to the rules of the legislative joint audit committee our request one or more audits regarding the following matters number one is the purchase of a podium or electron hope within this meeting will use those terms anonymous from beckett of the LLC for the use of the governor's office and all matters involved in the governor. In number two is all matters involved in the governor or the governor's office made confidential by section four a of seven of the first extraordinary station of twenty twenty three just to go one step further with that i've had a couple of questions about that you know where it says all matters my intent with that would be all matters where there's been a spend of taxpayer dollars so in other words we made that retroactive back to june first twenty twenty two uh my time would be that that would be if there's been dollars spant that legit legal it would go in and look at those those expenditures of that and then bother our quest that are consultant legislative you know procedures for reporting my request number two above and many similar future in any similar request in the future and compliance with existing in section five aback seven the first extraordinary session twenty twenty three okay my reason for the the last is this as you all know whenever we were in the special session with the uh dealing with the foyle for you recently what what it transpired is there had been I believe three or four separate drafts and in the end what we did of course was just made the uh security of the constitutional officers in this case we're talking about the governor's office so that they would be exempt from four year however there was a there was a request that we made that retroactive back to the june first of twenty twenty two and there was a lot of members just house and senate that had some issues with that and what we did to compensate for that is we did at a calls in there that said that legislate that this would not conclude legislative from being able to go in and look at it and if there was a finding that those could be reported to the legislature. So that was a clause that we added in there to just further explain that we put that in the non cartified section of the statute that does carry the full weight uh of the wall even though it was in the north carified section however not is it just relates to this but for anything for the next harver long this statute is in place in my opinion we need a procedure that has been discussed publicly has been out in the open on how that will be done so in other words as we know leg out it whenever they normally go in to do their standard audits they they go in do those independently basically of the legislature and then what they do is they prepare a report uh some of those reports have no foundings and then some have if they do have findings those are presented to the subcommittees of the wake of it and then that's all discussed in disseminated out publicly I want to make sure and I know it was the intent of the senate whatever we did this in the house to indian that our procedure is it relates to that particular law is what we're used to where that would be dissimilar if there is a finding only if there is a finding within the security that that would be set to the appropriate subcommittee of this body so with their you know my hope would be that you would pass this without any questions but are prepared and there's a lot of there's a lot of information that's been disseminated and I want to go ahead and say this on a friend if you approve this audit a lot of that information that's been disseminated by the public legislative all it will also have to go in and verify the accuracy of all that to make sure you know that everything is that's been put out. Is exactly what is transpired you know through emails text conversation or otherwise so mister chair tempered answer any questions thank you members we're going to break this into three parts so we can discuss and analyze it each part carefully the first part is going to be a paragraph one deals with the purchase of the podium election in with that we are open for questions for the for the first part. Search selling so open for questions to he are we questioning senator hickey. The committee but will you welcome a question maybe bad we want that you you will look at it for you that's cool if you made the point there that information has been disseminated and there are well I got it will verify whether that's all partial are complete list of everything that's out there so would you say that's the purpose of this article if to make sure we have full and accurate information even though a lot of information have been put out there already yesterday in that small from our questions my sole purpose I will have to say that there's some information that's been put out that substantial however uh some of their amazon verified some of it may have just been that was sent to me that supposedly was done through f o I request like all it's going to have a large job because they're going to have to go through there but they do this all the time make sure everything is accurate from our state computer systems or however else they do it. But then in addition to that you know I want to make sure too that there's nothing that has not been released yet I would hope so it is at this point you go but if there's other documents that contradict things there's other emails then there will be up to legal it so that they can get those so that this body can have all the information in a detailed written report that will be done in a public meeting where we can look at it makes them inform decisions so do you have any of the information that's not been made public are you aware of that that you can share now i'm not saying there is i'm just saying if they get in when they're doing their investigation that that then they would be able to to put that into the report so that we would have both sides for like I am sure that people who are publishing this information would never withhold anything or keep anything back in the meeting just and do that and I think that's the importance of having an independent order by legal audit if to make sure that all the information is out there which ever said it comes out on so I appreciate you're asking that question thank you thank you. Members are their additional questions thank you mister chair so I guess my question be for mr norman are whether or not they got it as all the statutory authority that they need and and resources available to accomplish his task yes sir we do we have broad statutory authority to look at anything and everything as as far as the public documents and also seek from private entities that deal with transactions with the state so and we also have subpoena power so I do think that we have the authority and the man power to look at this thank you cause that is going to be a second half of my question you do have some authority to look into the back of the vent llc side of the equation is that correct yes sir we do I mean they they are out of state into day so they're there may be some issues that arise there but I don't do not anticipate having any issues in getting documentation okay thank you thank you mister chair members are there any additional questions for representative I think this is more for mr norman but I need a calendar question uhm the governor's officers up for an audit for the last part of hurchinson term in the first part of huckabee are sanders term and we would be doing that audit at the beginning of january february march of next year is that correct yes ma'am it right now we're in the process of doing the affair in the state white single audit most of our state resources our state age audit resources are are trying to get those because there are some time restraints on there so it would be after the first the year before we would begin our our regular audit of the governor's office so this would be in addition to that and. That art it would be inclusive or when with this site it take place to this this audit if it's approved by the committee today and tomorrow it we will start tomorrow thank you. Members are there any additional questions. Should you on this first portion do you have any comments anything you'd like to say no surgest at appropriate time would appreciate a good vote members again with specifically voting or accepting emotion to vote for the purchase of the police election from back in advance ls for the use of the governor's office that's all we're doing this time sent or silent thank you so again kind of repeater be very clear there is an already an audit planned that will happen in first of the year and really really breaking that audit up into the reparks and this first part they were voting on now is kind of expediting what would have already been done later in the year that accurate yes sir was far as everything that's that's been out in the press and everything we would look as part of our normal audit procedures at the purchase of the the podium by what this would do is expedite that at least that portion of the report thank you in members I want it very soon be accepting a motion I would suggest in this motion if we would have the word expedite in there when this was part and were there do I have a motion I have a motion do I have a second I have a second all the favorite eye it has passed and that we will move on to the second part the second part i'm want to read it to you all matters involving the governor of the democracy office made confidential best section for a first extraordinary session of twenty twenty three that's what we're discussing now and with that german I welcome your questions such a brand thank you mister chair I was as looking at section one it which is mostly existing language. Yeah I don't know I didn't go back to research how long ago section one of that statue was was placed in the in the code but we we've never done this because it it's it's been exempt from four year because it is directly related to the governor of security of the mansion so this is this is asking for all matters made confidential by section four which for a reference to section one which is a different section of code so is your intent to to pull all that forward because we out of the word communications to security footage to data records surveillance footage security footage emergency plans is is the goal for leg audit to actually harvest all that information back to january thought back to june twenty twenty two yes well you have if it hear of the financial impact if there has been and you know I think there has to be a little bit of discretion which we've always given to leg out if there's no a six dollar item that could possibly be excluded on there I mean you know that I don't think that we we believe that but if there's a substantial monetary experience with taxpayer dollars it's been done but calls we made that retroactive within that within that last statute be happy to go into my reason for that if if you want me to yeah II guess it to expand on my question is if if as a new governor comes in any governor and they upgrade the entire security system for cameras too a new system new security IP address is vpn's all that stuff that's obviously a large expense I guess my question be would with that of otherwise been exposed to either this body or to the general public prior to this passing and that and and just to be clear and that's and that's really my last part down there i'm not asking for that to be exposed what what. What a mag asking for that if there was to be a finding that there was to be an inconsistency that all right that all it would see within that purchase possibly if they see something where you know a vendor was not done correctly or things to that nature that part would be what was disclosed if they have no finding the end you know that disclosure will be it would never be made to this body again that will go along with what you know with what we have brought there my reason in and i'll get into it a little bit you know about reasoning for this is a router wrong you know that this issue with the electron whatever anybody wants to call it it's been has been convoluted that it that it goes along with what happened in the special session with for you and I think you all have probably heard the same thing that app heard you know well could that apparently been made a security table issue because it didn't contain cable or in his bullet proof or whatever so then of course we've got all the timeline that has to deal with you know when the republican party you know reimbursed and all that which leg it needs needs to look at but what further you know what I believe further does where we need to look at everything that we made you know back to the retroactive date is the fact that on their podium per purchase whether it was a coincidence or whether it was not that I know that the senate that we adjourned on time ten o two on the fourteenth of september we had a bill sounding that was somewhere probably close to noon and then I found out you know even this this week that that reimbursement was actually done the same day that we left we left after out of here so. You know that reimbursement needs to be looked at you know there's there's other questions out there just to go ahead and kind of put it out you know that and when my opinion that leg out it needs to look at is you know if if states finds were expenditure you know although there may be a reimbursement in who actually who actually would own that because there is a process employees how you dispose of the state assets and of course we all know that this institution only runs as good as as good as all of our procedures are in place and that we make sure that they're followed so you know there there is even some things like that that I believe the need to be looked at hope i'd answer your question sir you did an investor if I have one political negative woman is section section one of the statute that's ripped for tune section in act seven is that normally on the review process of the governor's officers do we do something there will this most of those expenditures would be I think under the state police when they tom and and in so when we do our are testing on the state police obviously we don't look at one hundred percent of the items but some of those could fall within our testing that we do so II can't really say for sure that we've looked at in the past I can't say that we haven't but obviously under under this request we would go back and look at those type of expenditures ripped off right you will recognize thank you thank you mister chairman centre jam lemiescu there sir what would this already have a two part to the us in other words if the governor actually had money in her funding that you wouldn't would we be here today of that hidden been transferred over to another energy to pay for sure. I believe I will be believe representing and of course this is a lot of information that's been disseminated that I am going to go back to the accuracy has to be be proven in just a which I know I spent you know six seven hours must say a person going through gland balance of making some detail getting some notes you know I think the thing is is that I believe that the things they have been disseminated out there actually show that it was going to be that it was purchased as a state asset in that state funds were to be used important to some emails according to a whole bunch of emails so if your question in the years is is whether or not if if an again I am a member of the republican party but if the republican party had actually made this purchase himself the no sir we would not be here it's just that a state credit card was used so many emails that are out there seemed to allude or indicate that that state funds work we're going to be used and again i'm going to go back to what is what I said earlier that by doing this out if there is additional information out there that is contradictory to what we've seen in things like that then that'll be what legal it goes to and finds and you know allows the governor's office to give it to them or or however that works so does that answer your question sir please yes or you have all center g is can I ask you this or is the cost this involved being a nineteen thousand dollars or whatever it may be is that is there a part of this situation sir well I want to I want to be since you said nineteen thousand I want to be very you know exact you know from looking at the invoice and everything you know of the cost of the police myself was eighteen thousand four seventy five. And then you had a case and some taxes in some shipping that were adding on there so I want to make sure that we do that closer was a credit card fee of a fifty four so whenever we say the house to that I also want to make sure that everybody that we're clear here that there were additional expense items that were in that I believe to answer your question directly though from the public standpoint it appears that that that that is an issue that I believe is out there again I will kind of deferred like all it you know if uh again I had the I had the opportunity to chair this committee for four years such as you gentlemen up there and you know whenever we did the special outage you know the way that I always did it is once this committee approved that they've been doing this for years and years and just kind of their other to them as more less independent which they are in whatever they decided was significant that I needed to go in and and do and then put in a report was up to them and I would hope and expect that it would be done the same way with this thanks in regime thank you miss share like representative hard to recognize your thank you sir i'm trying to understand the second part a little bit in my initial understanding was this was we are mainly just talking about the selector in our podium so here on the second item you know can I back to center brian his question about this you know as we're asking about the second item and even representative rise questions you can keep going back to the podium which was already covered in the first item so I guess my question is you know what are you looking for what do you wanting audit to look for that's not already covered by what we've already voted to allow them to do any expense out on the reps and you had just as as I said earlier. You know with the since all of this is transpired at the exact time of our special session with the with the four year law and how we exempted that again I believe that there's a a lot of reason or a lot of feel that people have out there that they are inclusive each other as we know during the special session since we made that retroactive since we made the made all of those items retroactive their words a whole lot of people within the public that did not like that and I know that myself and others that you know that we've justified that we've publicly justified that we've done that that we said that it affect was ever an issue if there was ever an issue with that that leg out it would have the ability to go in and then might that public through the legislature and with the timing of all these and with that happening like I say even for the payment on the same day that we left the items that are stated earlier about could that possibly have been a security adam I just believe that it's going to be prudent for this body if we go ahead and try to clean it up for a lack of wars not only with the podium but that we go ahead with everything that was of such controversy during the special session that we go ahead and have a leg out and look at that so that we can count a start with a clean so I can get us behind us repsiless are over the centre selling your recognizer and i'm great representative harder it's a lot of the conversation has been about the lecture and we've already made their part of this body would you agree with that senator that's as well we're going to do expedited yes sir but my request is for the because out the net yeah that's for my question is because you know we as you stated we've seen a lot of emails for text messages. Newspaper articles all about the elector and I feel confident that people would have were foying other information also but I haven't seen anything I heard anything to that were justify an expedited audit on item too is there anything specific that you have that were people have published information found information share an information outside of what are expedited portion of this audit would be from a macro standpoint no sir but from a macro standpoint as it relates to the special session again I think that's significant fair enough to do it okay thank you thank you representative house that cut you off to soon by a few questions but yes sir as long as you let me go so I guess can I back to what I was saying so it seems like there's nothing in particular that that you're looking for other than the podium if I understand correctly what we exempted in the special session was basically the governor's personal security detail information so what you're requesting is that legislative audit go back and look at all all of this encompassed and what your requesting as the relates to the governor's personal security no sir and as a stated before only only if there had been a substantial or significant monetary span of taxpayer money with there but it is related to her the governor's security own well I mean if if there's some plan that uh they've set out and developed and there was no state taxpayer dollar spin on that then not sure I wouldn't think that that would be included however if there have been other items and there was his suggestion about cameras which I know is only used in its example you know if I got it gets in there in there they're there was a an expense for cameras of some larger amount like that. Uh as they would normally do an irregular audit that they would look at that and make sure that there was no inconsistencies that they seen and again if there is no if there is no finding there if there's no red flag there then that would not be reported back to this okay so some other members are pointed out we have the the way to say about it already does audits of all constitutional officers including the governor every year every other year and then my understanding was the legislation we passed the governor's office and state police will report to alc any expenses that are covered in what you're asking for so if you're already going to be getting those report sales see them what are you asking for again but it it it's all it's all based on everything this happened and everything there's been in the republic eh out in the public to try to start with the clean site I just think that that's the most prudent thing for us to do to to be able to go forward thank you thank you sir sir to pay sure to have a question yes thank you mister chair may have trouble put in this in the words but uh first of all on out of number two were where it starts off and says all matters are you saying that you want to change that to say all expenditures because all over matters that are related to an expenditure but i'll also want to be very careful and again back to my to my bill was letter would leg it that would be what I would I would say that they would look at however if there is an inconsistency whenever they're looking at an around that money had been spent on at that I would not want to impair or bar the ambulance something we do in here by saying they would still have the ability to look at to look at something else that may have not have had that if it was directly reinforced we related and I think they do that all the time so you know I know they're very thorough and. I just want to make that point that although we say monetary if they were for to find that inconsistency there that they would they would see it all the way through okay and so basically during the special session we changed before you are to exempt retroactively and going forward several things and one of the things that we did in that process was to grant the legislator legislature through legislative audit more oversight in enter these expenditures do you think it's important to demonstrate to the public they were willing to do that oversight I think yes sir when as I said before I think we all know that the public you know there there was a large part of the public holiday thought well the security you know they understood the security power and some of the family part and things to that nature I think that there was a way I don't think I know that you know there was a a big question with the retro activity park so I think you want a percent right with what you've said if I could have one more yes or go ahead so basically I think the report that we're supposed to happen quarterly would basically be categoric spending spending and not automaticed in what in what you proceed legislative audit doing under this second part of your request do you see any reason that they were the legislative audit would need to expose confidential information that would put the governor at risk no sure unless unless there was a finding within that specific around and that was. The next part of my request is I wanted this body to go ahead and develop that when I know we'll talk about there but that will be though my next next part of this request so we need to discuss the process yes okay thank you thank you mister. Membership of any other questions on this portion representative listen I understand you're wanting to have the ordered of those issues immediately following the session i'm still a little bit confused if we're going to be doing and added anyway to say as we do a regular audit of all the executive officers how is this different because we're going to go through and look at everything so i'm just confused how is this different in suitability that's left mister norman speak to the first well number one this would be retroactive we would not look at those generally because we'd be looking at depends on how far they go back and we would focus specifically on certain items generally we go in and we look at the entity which in this case it must must the records are gonna be of state police and so we would be doing an art it of the state police as a holes or this would be changing up what our normal audit process would be that now if the committee approves that we could look at it at that time or we could do another special report of i'll honest but without some direction from the the committee unless we become aware of something when we do are normal audit at state police we probably would not spend his extensive time looking at these ends. Go ahead sir unless there's another question i'll just wait on that sir members are there any other questions on this issue I have seen representative right thank you mister chairman branch and let me ask you this under normal circumstances when a claim goes through for the governor for the legislature of you know senator house usually is our only one steel involved in that are there too like this situation I as in would that go up a rare flag for us to look at something sir well that the state is internal control set up dealing with purchasing and disbursement of fine so all of those need to be followed and if we're aware that they're not fall then we would look at that does that entry question so to pay new recognizer thank you and this would be for mister norman so the audits that you do on a regular basis our general audits were assume you do samplings or testings it's not anything that is specific in nature to look at a certain category or anything like that it again it depends it depends generally we go in if we find something when we go in the winning we expand or sample if we find issues or if they're let's say if we're aware of issues such as this but are of this this is a little bit unusual so you know if we could get some direction from the committee is forced what their wishes are I think obviously either way we will span some additional time looking at these expenditures we do have access to all of those type of expenditures though so we will spend some time looking at them okay thank you thank you mister chair central brought do you have a question or just like motion if this gets a just get emotional like that discussion on the motion. Thank you sir members or there any other questions concerning adam too. Representative heart just a question on the process we're gonna vote on to before we go to the next item we're voting simply on adam too now i'm a read that took us to make sure what memories what we're going to vote on if we have a motion is adam to all matters involving the governor or the governor's office made confidential passes for a of action of x seven of the first extraordinary session of twenty twenty three that's what we're working on right now there is a motion regarding this one prefer to my co council coach everything thank you mister chairman I do think there needs to be a point of clarification before we take that up as the motion because the way I understood it senator hickey is explanation was that he he clarified as request on section two to be all matters and I heard two different things when I heard all matters related to an expenditure and then in another time you said a significant spend of taxpayer money this is really kind of what you're interested in as opposed to all matters made confidential because as I think the committee is discussed that would include everything from thousands of hours of security footage at the governor's mansion to every bullet included in a state troopers arsenal to gas that's put in executive protection detail of gas tanks so you know at some point you have to try to narrow that down a little bit because I just don't think legislative audit has the time to audit everything in its entirety and so the way I understood senator hiki was going to limit that was to all matters related to and you might say a significant expenditure involving the governor's office that was made competential now I don't want to put words your mouth but is that is that more accurate as to what you're requesting senator you said it better than I could see what it would be thank you mister. Member of the can I make a substitute one six one members are the questions on the exchange it just happened with that if not i'm gonna go to represent a great and we'll make a substitute motion that we tabled us until our meeting next month. Members we have a motion is there a second. Okay so second members is your discussion yeah all I want to say uh relates to my motion as I still think as I said my initial understanding was this was primarily about the podium i've only recently kind of learned that the you know the second point it seems really broad and scope to me to me I still don't exactly know what would be what's the object of you know what are we looking for on the second point so I think any more clearly maybe from center hiccure others that can take another month maybe narrow the focus of this little bit and see exactly what are we looking for with this what are we asking legislative audit and exactly to look into cause I still don't feel like I have a good understanding of that into me as i'm reading this seems like we would sort of be undoing what we do in the in the special session related to foyer which was to protect the governor and her family and there's their security and I think there was broad consensus in the legislature that we wanted to protect that information and I still want to protect that information so if there's something specific like this electronically and you know I think i'm happy to vote for something like that but just to say we were just going to look into anything to see if we find anything else that to be is not really clear enough and just to broad seems a bit like a phishing expedition to me so i'm asking if we table it get a little more clarity a little more focus about what the ask is on this I can work with senator hickey and the other members of the committee and we can come back next month and maybe narrow the focus a bit on this serious patent thank you mister chair and I appreciate what representative hodge just said I don't see it the same way I mean II think that during the special session we passed legislation to for to guard this confidential information from for you. But in doing so we sold the need to keep that information available for legislative oversight through legislative audit and so I don't see this section to doing anything other than exercising the oversight they were spelled out in that legislation or not undoing what was done in the special session by implementing what was done in the special session. Well and the reason is I think the governor is offices called for an expedited audit to make it a lot of grand if you have you if I need you to make a move on so if the if the public was concerned about what we did buy shielding this confidential for information from for you I think it's important we demonstrate they were willing to do the oversight that we put in the legislation rips of hard you welcome to respond to that okay sir in share to bring you a recognizer yeah just so back to what center of people have sent is we was we before work with four year during the session and and not audit on it was never affected and I assume audit of the state police for pisco twenty two to twenty three is in the work sir that's behind this the second part of the other in a nursery it it is one of those articles start after the first year also so it's it's already already moving forward so II think i'm i'm a support of of represent hardest motions because the very next action we're gonna look at is the developer seizures dealing with request to above so I think we're to me we're going down a path that may be we have a guy down before so we got we got to give they got it some some guidelines but we're gonna also ask him to go here and you know work on issue so i've supported the table at least we determine what those procedures and guidelines are of center hickey's next request dealing with section two of the request members are there any other discussion yes sir representative warmer so just just for clearly I think on a lancer but it is like to be sure we're about to take a vote on representative hardest subsequent motion yes your amount asked him to restate that. Any pertains to add them to okay thank you sir in representative hard are quick calling representative of ground grant whatever you will anything see your motion yes not you know killing this or anything my motion was only that we tabled this until our meeting next month so we can get some more information more clarity and take this up at our november meeting that's my motion table till next meeting members is there a second I see a second all in favor say I oppose they need membership will do real car representative woman represented london representative rare. Representative harders representative gas away. Senator brought. Senator sullivan. Center patent center wallace. This. Representative grant ripped it of hodge your emotion fails. Now members is really further discussion on item to your sir mister chair make a motion that we honour center hickey's request in adam number two with the carrier about it being limited to expenditures. Members we have emotion is there a second I see a second we're gonna do a voice call the first time all in favor say I any opposed to the eyes have it. Members we are moving on to out of three which starts with the words further I requested around saw live slip added developed procedures for reporting my request above it is similar request in the future in the blast with existing laws in section of seven of the first extraordinary session of twenty twenty three with that do you have any questions members. Representative hard you recognize maybe a question for roger it says develop procedures I guess when are we going to see those procedures what we have to vote to approve the procedures yesterday I would think so what what we would do is is work with the committee and try to come up with some some ideas and present that at our next executive meeting in november next month if if we are able to get that a draft together as far as how that would happen but II don't foreseen issues in having a thing. Okay so the committee will though on those I guess is my question yes sir okay thank you senator patent you're recognizer though mister norman with anything any results of the uh audit that starts based on our first two actions will any of those results be released prior to these procedures being developed well II think that this this third action really deals with those that are confidential now and so I mean obviously uh if it depends on when it's voting down by the full committee as far as the procedures are if it if it doesn't happen to left we finish the podium of it then years I mean it could but we would not present in their things that are subject or are not open under f o wire eh we have items all the time in audits where portion may be example but we found a way we summarize things so it depends upon the nature of the documents it depends upon the nature of what is exempt from disclosure so there are some ways around that you're confident that procedures exist though protect the exempted material until we can see it yes or third part yes sir thank you. Members are there any other questions. Say no questions do I have a motion to have a motion do I have a second half a second members hold in favor of adopting adam three say I opposed to that as passed you thank you for your time sir you welcome to stay there or you can have a seat sir i'm owner i'm gonna leave owned out of here I do want to thank the committee for all the discussion this is what the the leg situations about and we serve the public way out of day and I do thank each and everyone of you for that thank you members moving known to adam d status a special reports thank you ma'am thank you mister chair this afternoon we have eight reports that are going to the standing committee of counties in ministalities that have some proper fraud shortage ethics violation and tomorrow morning we have two financial audit reports will be presenting to save your pambod for two thousand and twenty two as well as the office of the ag attorney general for two thousand and twenty two. Members do you have any questions. No thank you ma'am members are me is you have a counter at your desk thank you miss chair you do have a tentative calendar for twenty twenty four in there as far as the dates of the legislative join on the committee currently we have identified I think six months that would be able to meet january in february wearing I think march we have some conflicts with the budget hearings april in may and we have some conflicts with the physical session so we may meet january february june and we're able to meet in july august there's a conflict and then that would give us september and october november we usually meet the the week of the general election and generally right after general election all the new members come come to town and so we have a conflict there the same thing in december a lot of times we have depending on when the the legislative orientation is for the high sometimes that knocks the sale of there but we did want to give you something and we with your approval then we'll go with with this calendar until we find out some more specifics later next year. Members do you have any questions. If not they concludes our business and we are adjourned.