ALC-JBC Budget Hearings (9a-11:30A)

Our members it's not Clark we're gonna go ahead and get checked does started chair ceases A quorum. At first that is item be that's report from the personnel subcommittee I am going to turn it over to senator eaves. Thank you Mr chair the personnel subcommittee of a healthy JVC met on Wednesday October twenty eight committee her presentation from the department of higher education for each of the listed institutions of higher education the committee also reviewed the personnel related special language for the institutions as well the committee adopted the higher education coordinating board's recommendations I will be happy to take any questions questions and move adoption of this report the proper time. Thank you Mr chairman we have any questions or comments. All right seeing none we have a motion. About chairman we have a second all those in favor signify by saying it to adopt the report all those in favor signify by saying aye all those opposed. Not sure what happened so but I do believe we've adopted the report. Moving on to section C. presentation about the request will begin on in tab three page at two sixty seven of your manual. And then I'll turn it over in your weapon present the the first section. I thank you Mr chairman don Coleman with your legislative research department of corrections administration insured services appropriation summaries on page two sixty eight your manuals administration insurance services total for appropriations totaling up to around one hundred thirty three million dollars for fiscal year twenty two and just under one hundred forty million dollars for fiscal year twenty three. Exactly recommendation an agency request identical for each appropriation with the exception of the department of correction appropriation. It's on page two seventy will find the criminal detention facility review appropriation criminal detention facility review committees are responsible for annually inspecting jails that house city and county prisoners to ensure that the facilities comply with state mandated minimum standards. This appropriation is funded through the state central services with the exception of regular salaries and personal services matching the level appropriation is fiscal year twenty one continued for both years of the biennium for which both executive recommendation an agency request show one hundred forty nine thousand two hundred forty one dollars for each year the biennium. See on page two seventy four you'll find a department of correction shared services appropriation. This appropriations created to consolidate common division services such as administration. Human resources finance legal and can operations. Exactly recommendation is slightly higher than the river agency requests in terms of regular salaries and personal services matching this is the only difference in the exact a recommendation nays request for either year of the biennium. in terms of appropriation moving down the appropriation request there is one hundred thousand dollars requested for overtime pay for each year that but I biennium. The next commitment item is operating expenses requested just about seven point six million dollars for fiscal year twenty two and just about seven point eight million dollars for fiscal year twenty three. Next we can see the largest commitment item in the appropriation request for both years of the upcoming biennium as professional fees and nearly eighty three million dollars for fiscal year twenty two I nearly eighty five for fiscal year twenty three this larger view the seventy three point four million dollars medical and pharmaceutical contract moving from inmate care and custody. Under division of correction to shared services. According to agency that to twenty point four million dollars refunds reimburse items due to the division of correction community corrections county jail reimbursement funds being transferred to shared services an effort to limit invoices. And then the related expenses items intended for use in the circumstance operations may be affected by a cover nineteen outbreak. lastly to regional jail commitment item is requested to relocate three hundred thirty six beds currently and we county Texas. The facilities in Baxter Andrew counties the total IT request just over a hundred thirty two point eight million dollars for fiscal year twenty two and just under one hundred thirty nine point five million dollars for fiscal year twenty three. Executive recommendation provides for the agency requests for appropriation only also a detailed list of all those positions I mentioned transferring over to shared service can be found on pages two eighty two eighty six. Page two hundred seventy six to find a criminal detention committee expenses appropriation the appropriation provides for the operating expenses of the criminal detention committees that inspects jails the house city and county prisoners and is funded through general revenue agency request an executive recommendation are for eighteen thousand six hundred thirty nine dollars for each year of the upcoming biennium the same this fiscal year twenty one. Page two seventy eight shows the transportation of juvenile offenders appropriation this appropriations funded by general revenue through the miscellaneous agencies fund is used to provide grants and reimbursements to counties and cities for transportation of juvenile offenders to appropriate care custody facilities or license juvenile facility to provide a court the executive recommendation provide for one hundred eighty seven thousand dollars for the program for both years the biennium and general revenue funding of one hundred eighty three thousand seventeen dollars one hundred eighty seven thousand dollars for fiscal years twenty two and twenty three respectively. Mister chairman that concludes my presentation on administration said services. And we have a common a question from C. seventeen I apologize I can see far enough to. In fact you're recognized Sir thank you Mr chair all over this White House I. That the server. Add I caught the tail end of it when I will as well walking in but you said that we transfer some prisoners back from Texas to some facilities here in Arkansas I'm not I'm not sure that that's been done yet but I talk to the agency and they said it was an issue of the governor's to eventually move those three hundred thirty six bad from doing county Texas to Baxter county facilities for any more specifics than that I would probably deferred agency okay I will right out I would have just wonder what the dollar amount Evers that savings are what what that was I am not sell to that not quite sure about the exact number but. Agency can help you ice agents. Okay I think we have a question and hope you get here and so will will turn it over to the agency to respond. If you don't mind could you just go ahead repeat your question just in case and then. I AS A there were transferring some apparently the future will be transference of prisoners back from Texas facility back into Arkansas I was just wanting what the net difference in the revenue was as a result of that transfer. Yes Sir you're recognized you can hear me. One second Sir. We need to hear request but ninety nine. Hey if you can I think you maybe your mute button is. Yes it made you best but may be cursed on your end. As travel more time. Hold tight for just one second receiving figure out. Better at your house now yes Sir. Our orders for them is Mr chair of the of the morning song where the sector corrections it off your question the amount that is being after just one second two we'd figure out. Was that a delay on me. Senate pretty good. I think we're good we're good to go ahead and go I'm not sure what is that. Yes Sir I come Senate pretty good. Members let's just hold tight for just a second I think there's an issue with maybe that he streaming. coming coming to better yes Sir. For those sued senator DISMANG us again problem Greg sector correction ribbon Representative Beck in response to your question regarding the regional jail the amount that is being requested in both years of the biennium is that your friends of the operational costs we are currently paying for the blue each county contract person what we are a a what we will be paying to Bradley Andrew Collins. Just quickly. What was that what line was Iowa pages I don't see. Is on the. Should be the department of correction Mister two seventy four. For. And it's the last line item on the appropriation regional jail. Okay. So. The understand said that that's this is the difference between the two. It is the the reading the operational costs are higher for the branding drew county of regional jail project that facility will hold five hundred inmates for the state of Arkansas verses the three hundred and thirty six and make that are allocated in the of we county contract. Were. We're we're transferring three hundred. Yes Sir. It's four million for half million dollars per year are provided. Our intention to reallocate three hundred and thirty six inmates in the movie county contract to the result valid south Arkansas the daily reimbursement for the daily rate that we would be paying the regional jail is higher because that facility will allow us to provide programming. to the inmate is housed there that is currently not available to the inmates that are house under the. It is just for a quick reference and then I'll I'll I'll I'll be quiet so what is the date was a difference of the data right between the Texas facility in Arkansas facility I understand also designed for an additional services. The wood paneled proximally thirty six dollars and believe county and the rate and though the south Arkansas we we know there will be approximately forty four. Thank you. Sir I'm recognized Representative house for question. Good morning the secretary can you hear me Sir back last session the state license to be on women's facility and the hi I'm bluff to an organization two of house batteries train them job training rehabilitation center and that's been now over a year would you give us a little run down on how that's working if it's working what is going on with that also of what I have to well that that organization was not able to see you were adequate funding program. Okay so that particular piece of real estate back in the hands of the department of corrections yes Sir okay thank you very much Mister chairman for. Representative six sixty one you're recognized. Thank you Mr missed searchers wondering on our our page two seventy two on the regional jail expenses there's a increase from twenty twenty two up to twenty twenty three what is the reason for the increase should spike four point four million dollar increase between the two years. He contract is structured in such a way where there being a escalator built in each year of our topic. In. What are the components that. The drive up the escalator I mean what what or how well the follow up and get you a copy of the contract but in summary it is based on a percentage of the southern region the store price index. Is that going to push it up above the forty four forty four dollar. Is the starting point then is that based on the four point three million or the eight point seven million. For the forty four dollars it is. With or. What is your one of the project. So the daily reimbursement rate is going to go up in twenty twenty three. I'm sorry. Mister chair good you're recognized. I think part of what's going on there is that the regional jail is scheduled to open on January one and someone please correct me if I'm wrong here it's scheduled to open in January one of twenty two So the funding there would be for half of the year in the first fiscal year and then for FY twenty three we would be funding operations there for a full twelve months correct so the forty four dollars a day and then they would escalating year two and also include well that is correct so we got rid so when is fully operational what's going to be the daily reimbursement rate. Senate will have to look at the contract and see what it would escalate to in your view of operation I notated less and forty six but all I will have to the exact amount after today. So the eight to ten dollar gap between what we're currently paying by them being in Texas and what we're going to pay for them to come into Arkansas. Is going to be for programming services that they weren't receiving in Texas. Yes Sir and and also those are Just got a note it is forty four dollars for both years of the buying. escalate past forty four dollars and. The Senate bill would. We have since twenty fifteen utilized bids in Texas which has not been the For calling me at the for for the state it makes it hard for families to maintained maintained ties it makes it hard for us to provide me interest services to those offenders are bringing them back to Arkansas yes it will cost cost. But green then back to Arkansas is the right thing to do are in terms of programming for the inmates and also of the right thing to do for us to support our dear reentry into society which next to public safety. And how much is it going to reduce the population in the county jail if were bringing back three thirty six that's capable of holding five hundred. Will that difference be utilized to reduce the overcrowding in county jails and. Increase of a hundred and forty six bit Mr. And the money that. This is set up under red ranger county will those counties individually benefit any as far as money into their county revenue. Yes Sir drugs such a way where our range are a to the counties in sales. Thank you Mr. I thank senator Six thirty three. Thank you chairman of secretary graves the knees garner in the corner over here I've just got a question on the professional fees the. Where where did that come from the four. Previously vocals contracts are were paid out of the divisions those are medical services and our of intermission contracts. So for the entirety of our bond we will build up to shared services and okay great that's what I need to know thank. Thank you Representative seat twenty two senator Elliott. Thank you Mr chair senator grades for the escalator that you talked about for the new facility DO a that's different from Our work our mission. I'm. There US would be request yeah I I didn't completed anyway I was asking about of the escalator for the new facility that escalator is going to match the southern cost of living how how does that match up with Whatever kinda escalator that we get in the other facilities other they and what the what we determined that any kind of increased or going to get going to get. other state run facilities yes right he ours we build and as part of our. I annual request you year a small increase in him and I'll to lay increase cost eighty deal with these I don't know I can't tell you how the percentages match of exactly between movie county I'm sorry between the south Arkansas regional jail and our other facilities but senator we doing not include a escalator increase for him and you're buying I guess what I'm trying to I'm sorry I understand what's the what's the rationale for having an escalator for one facility that might not be the same as the rest of the public facilities why that different. It is. As with any other entity the cost of operations increases every year and the the calendar being that is a revenue you will to maintain the level of services we expect them to provide concert. Senate so in essence are a weed then With and substitute within and substituting state money to make sure the counties have what they need beyond haven't of folks who understood Who were there it on behalf of the state we are we make enough money to the county can run is facility by happen at an escalator in there but we don't have that same escalator. A in the other facilities is a seems like an equity to be that I'm not grasping unless there's some rationale I don't get. So I'd be happy after the date to sit down with you with the contract and X. explain the rationale behind it structure. I'm. So if what percentage of our budget was presented percentage of of the state budget vis a vis the our county budget are are we fighting for the for the entire operational costs to you know. The facility will fall five needed in merry state of whole earn their their country eight word count I should read resolve eight years for both Bradley county twenty two and then they'll hold about forty five hundred based on final design ask the or the US marshal service so roughly about half. Will stay. Okay and my other question has it has to do with the the overtime the the amount of money we have appropriated I think it's a foster page a hundred thousand dollars for by and FOR in each fight this year the biennium thank for that cover all over overtime expenses. For our shared services division yes ma'am you'll see separate overtime appropriate for our other two made to the movies and done this on correction and he's in our community correction this. And the last request when it went when you give me the information about what the state is paying for this facility and and not drew Bradley county of we just give me a plane break out in here's what the entire facility up the cost and just show me what part of that in raw numbers the state is is footing and that bill or process okay to do that Thank you Mr chair. Thank you senator six seventeen represented back recognized for a question. Of the thank you Mr chair of. Just doing a quick math of the forty four dollars actually is. five point four million dollars uh per year. Of so I was curious as to how that worked out because you're only asking for. Asking for four point three but if you do forty four. Of times I I now use a number three thirty six is that maybe maybe that's the wrong number but three thirty six inmates in that equals and actually equals five point four million dollars. For thirty three hundred sixty five days. At the nine. Okay the actual okay. I think I think you I got my question answered here they said it would only be for half a year. Is that correct Sir we're only asking for your on the. I apologize nonsense. All right thank you see sixty one Senator hammer. They share a treat this some additional put a flag on it that's all. Okay thanks we get that done Members do we have any other questions or comments. I think I one thing the refunds or reimbursements twenty million four hundred fifty three thousand is currently included in this overall preparation because the way that we structure our essay and we can confirm this with The director but it would be to do go ahead and pass the preparation as is minus that line I'm in and have a separate preparation for at that amount for county jail reimbursement. Any objection to that. Beginning it it is tested to the funding of our essay. Take there is no I've got one question on seat. Eighteen. comment. German have. There being late but. I wanted to I want to talk about personnel if it's appropriate at this time is that is that appropriate. Yes Sir Mr. You mean personnel on on that the report that we are okay number she of the total numbers of employment. We In the department of. Corrections including I saw six thousand two hundred and thirty seven authorize positions. the. About fifty one hundred were budgeted. But you have eight hundred and ninety six positions. The server vacant. Field. Seven hundred and forty one three hundred forty one hundred and seventy eight. Date back to twenty. Sep twenty seven date back to twenty fourteen twenty sixteen. Sixteen and eighteen twenty eighteen seventy twenty eighteen another thirty five. Shared services said to and then in twenty twenty and forty four. positions that were vacant. The in looking at it. The thirteen pages. In the information have been provided to it was seventy. Position purpose page. Vacant. It's forty point nine million dollars. Hello to you all explain having that many positions. That are vacant. And I realize that hiring you're a. Security people in your garden that thing they're hard to come particularly were most of your facilities are located. But the do you see my point that we have a forty point nine million dollars the time of the this this could be used to reallocated or you look this I'm just ask have you all the value what is those positions have you looked at your total positions Mr sector. represented will not begin year after nine law I actually had our HR staff and our. The date and the house concern when I saw the number of positions that had been thank you for that operates the comp or. And the US one number of those position based on are you I am or out of that one hundred and forty or so that are thank you for that extend your op I actually makes these. does makes provisions are provided to the army as a form contingency should we are run into that situation we can't meet with staff of certain certain certain critical areas so those are not those legs are not. The. regular regular mobile their field on an as needed where an individual alum The if you have any to do what our whole one on military legal these enormously are secured we have two immediately after we clean staff from critical meeting area that's what we will bills next with these now what. Your call waiting I share your concerns about our big even numbered since I will name sake secretary in the in your life to the office one. In one of my primary years old is resting are Our recruitment and in the proper. we were able to hire correctional officers on an average I thousand year but unfortunately we would say well forty nine are you we are not really. Recruitment engine would what I would call a systems approach are we left the and the local level for our wardens are basic level of support from the central office to figure out Adam staff in their area how to train staff that there will be leaders out challenge are you. House party on training administrator to really eighteen at a Arden why level how we are stacked up for the first time you actually are hired on a recruiter I was going I'm very focused will be. recruiting staff in our uniform used in our services the division and our licensed mental health position with your art the highs I am here I will also look at how we're getting out I don't think we really reverie our social media leverage our ability to market our staff the basin. The last one that we are releasing this twenty first St century and read the movie either of our. Allen who need to address our training. by and large are treating have remained stagnant for well over a decade in some cases are we are we teaching persons of the same year asked one year and that's regrettable a lot more words are large tires. Their early needs ones and we've got to make sure there are trying like you're of the The personality traits that individuals are building generation ACT yes in in summary number that will be it is a concern for me we are working for me we have to and what would be willing to work with staff and also. Last thing I want to dress you are. In you may represent the end of your questioning to the amount of one we have. we always have to be mindful of our by the compensation liabilities specifically the original that we eight to our security staff because the curry. meetings for sure of that we that we have to operate or not. The entirety of our existence in all honesty you have to maintain a certain level of salary savings to be able to pay our staff of the. Angels that they are entitled to a school with the. Miss. Intended to start off by. Resolution you own your appointment I think it's great. Thank you Sir the Having been a state trooper and and then the the Cummins twice in order to Tucker once during Or S. to know exactly what your staff is Against. My point being that of the hundred and seventy eight positions are over two years so and then the total staffing of eight hundred ninety six the I'm not trying to take any money way. What I'm concerned about is we presenting a true pitcher. To. The people of Arkansas relative to the one as good stewardship of the funds that they're giving to us and then forty million the reference. Trying to share or tell you have a run that to me that could be used to increase the salaries of those correctional officers who are calm betting that down there. So Mister chairman that's that's all live in. Thank you thank you Mr secretary. Yes Sir. One thing to keep in mind a Representative these are the a preparation threshold that I think in is explanation part of that is them in there for the position at need composition in case there's an emergency and you have some folks that you know are going to remain employed but we need someone to step in their place for temporary time period at that's the way that I understood it and then also you know this is not the funding side quite yet and we're just talking about the appropriation levels I with that. I will twenty five. Senator hammer you're recognized for a question thank you Mr secretary you're a what is your projected hundred percent occupancy occupancy time of the facility. This can be run by law shall from the time they get open and you're talking about five hundred are you expecting that within the first year the first couple years or how long. It is our intention to new I merely you know there are silly G. up to capacity once those dates are. And your budget numbers that are presented reflect being at a hundred percent occupancy. Yes Sir okay and regarding the hundred and forty six that are going to come out of the counties and now the county lock up their understanding that that money will no longer be coming to them are you anticipating that there will not be a of the the county jails will not fill back up to for those hundred forty six or what's the the third. The. The card. The not request a increase and ninety or funds we were expecting that afterwards opening of this additional capacity would lead to the population remained flat obviously are are referred me to see a reduction in the. Ladies and Meeks state we care what the bill would house. Placed under the care custody of the state state so. The pay scale for the low sale employees versus the state employees that are running the facilities around them are they comparable or as low self going to be offering more now is that going to affect your recruiting and you have fun sufficient to offset what about that. We sent him I don't I don't know that they have made a final determination as to what their final compensation levels will be we do have very sizeable of ran all ready with the the southeast Arkansas community so well I I I expect that we are non commodity we have in some cases several generations of families that I work within our facilities I expect that we will be able to. Continue to road crew as I will be to and my answers to represent ludens line of questioning we do have to change the manner in which we recruit really hot and eyes are efforts in some areas yes cast a wider net but I expect that we will be the citizens. Thank you Mr. Thank you senator the. See twenty eight a plea that senator bond so right now. okay Representative you're ready recognize. That attorney of heated warmer time. Thank you Mr chairman. The question for you Secretary Solomon you know in the past I think that the funding for the county reimbursement is is it currently twenty nine dollars a day Sir. we are current operation that will as as we know is getting ready to. I miss that Michelle meant what do you say that there was be the current authorized level I would just increase to thirty two dollars thirty to okay joint at the regional jail is actually around forty four up against thirty two for the counties is that about right. Yes I predict what the reimbursement rate will be two years from now in the county for our traditional county jail population but as it stands right now the reimbursement rate is thirty two dollars thank thank you Sir thank you Mr chairman. Thank you Representative. Senator Elliot you're recognized. Thank you Mr chair Mr secretary for the I believe it was eight dollars difference for the services that are going to be provided and by lasalle that are not provided in the bill we county facility do you do you have a break out of what those services are that they're going to be getting in the next facility they're not getting now. And. About the the difference between our we county in the southeast Arkansas yes I am yes I am. We are it does. Working on the where. All on give that to them and get that after we need today and not contractor lines out the problem ninety arms. It's not Arkansas what do you know if they're going to. The be brought in line with match in the services that we presently have at State comedies or be more. Yes. Contrary required the facility need American correctional association standards of for operation and those operational standards have a programmatic requirement to them so the same level of service all of our facilities within both the division of correction and the division of community correction are ACA. credited on those same standards those same operational requirements will be in place house are ready and that regional jets. Would it be fair then for me to conclude that we had folks house in a facility that into a county that did not meet A. C. A. standards is is that a correct statement. Were. are providing the the department of and as I'm sure you remember existing will ask credible level in terms of our housing it was not the our ideal situation which is why there is and you know it's you know project to develop and south Arkansas it was clear to our board on a clear two RPG's managing our in our current. Our. The may two Arkansas option or S.. I agree with that and this is just not division of budget for the most part right now but you know I I think. We were the public and at least thought we were placing our folks in a facility that was clearly in line with any ACA guidelines and so I guess that'll be instructed to us moving ahead and if you will give them that information Mister secretary I would appreciate that because I'd like to see just what it is the of the eight dollars difference or whatever it was what's going to be provided as a result of that rather than just a generic you know say we're gonna provide services thank you so much. I you senator at the. Actor I just like to say I appreciate what you're doing and bring those individuals back to Arkansas and and look forward to having some improved outcomes for them. And then I think. Representative Wardlaw are you one for question you just popped up on the screen so we could see this one okay all right with that one recognize senator eads. I thank thank you Mr I'd like to make a motion that we accept executive wrecked with the exception that the refunds reimbursement line on page two seventy four which is the one that's the actual county reimbursement be drafted as a separate appropriation. So the motion is to adopt exactly wrecked with the exception of the every funds and reimbursement line and that will be a set up is its own set stand on separate preparation. Thank you. We have a second Is there any discussion Senator Elliott. I don't want a big long discussion I just like to know why we're separating it that's all one reason add to separate that out is it's right now currently in their overall the preparation if we separated out it either some assurance then that those that that amount is only spent on county jail reimbursement. So just kind of a guard rails around that or something of that we're saying to yes my questions about that okay yeah and it follows what we've done traditionally in our safer last for years okay alright thank you I thank you. Twenty other questions or comments. I have a motion by Senator eads we have a second by a. Represent Wardlaw all those in favor signify by saying aye. All those opposed motion carries moving on to the division of correction. And Sir you're recognized thank you Mr chair will start the division of corrections appropriation summary on page two eighty nine E. manuals. For the division of corrections eleven appropriations the agency has a question about three hundred sixty four million dollars total for fiscal year twenty two and three hundred sixty one million dollars total for fiscal year twenty three. The first appropriation listed for the division of correction is county jail reimbursement which is directly related to that motion we just passed and can be found on page two ninety one the agency has transfer the seventeen a half million dollar appropriation level along with general revenue funding of over fifteen and a half million dollars from county jail reimbursement to the refund reimbursements commitment line item seen on page two seventy four and the department of correction shared services appropriation. The second appropriation we have is the work release cash appropriation okay on page two ninety four new manuals is cash appropriation supported by over five hundred inmates to participate in a work release program. Program allows inmates to hold paying jobs in the community well being house in a correctional facility provides an opportunity to earn wages pay restitution fines and fees. Work release participants by the division of corrections seventeen dollars a day to offset costs for maintenance and operations centers continuing level appropriations fiscal year twenty one authorize it just over a million dollars. The department of correction sex offender assessment appropriation request is located on page two ninety six in your manuals fund for this appropriation early for the U. N. as juvenile sex offender assessment and are collected by the crime information center for two hundred fifty dollar fee from each person required to register as a level three or four sex offender fees are split between the crime information center and the division of correction continuing level of preparations fiscal year twenty one authorize it twenty five thousand dollars. An expropriation on page two ninety eight is fire station treasury Cass this provides for support of the fire station constructed the Cummins unit eulogizing inmate labor to lower the cost cash funds are collected through the fire protection revolving fund request appropriation for each year the binding as fiscal year twenty one authorized twenty five thousand dollars. The inmate Karen because the appropriation is on page three hundred one of your manuals. Funding is primarily from general revenues but the usage of cash and special revenue per inmate care and custody fund operations allows agency to budget to meet the contingencies of population growth. The agency is requesting the transfer of personnel and supporting operation appropriation to division of correction shared services totaling around ninety two and a half million fiscal year twenty two and ninety four point eight million for fiscal year twenty three includes the following transfer of one hundred forty two positions. Longer regular salaries and personal services matching with appropriation level. I mean with appropriation and funding at levels of roughly eight point five million dollars for both years the biennium nearly a half million dollars in operating expenses appropriation a reallocation of seventy three and a half million dollars a professional fees due to transfer of the contract providing medical and pharmaceutical care. And two point two million dollars for fiscal year twenty two and four point four million dollars for fiscal year twenty three for out of state that's appropriation. For capital outlay agencies requesting just under one point four million dollars in around nine hundred seventy two thousand dollars for each year of the upcoming biennium respectively a holiday compensation line item has been established to allow the division to budget and pay employee holiday compensation for which five and a half million has been requested feature the biennium. Lastly the energy savings and efficiencies line item has been added for a contract with integrity involving the Tucker unit it is the request an executive recommendations differ slightly due to expenses related to positions with posters under three hundred ten million dollars for fiscal year twenty two and just over three hundred seven million dollars for fiscal year twenty three. On page three of four he will find the prison industry appropriation correctional industries exist as a self supporting operation within the department of correction and is funded by special revenues generated by the sale of products to public agencies and non profit organizations. By my gold industries program is to administer and operate the various industry programs to provide inmates with training opportunities for the five hundred inmates participate in the various work programs which include planning and graphic arts digital imaging engraving janitorial product manufacturing school bus fire truck repair. Furniture manufacturing refinishing upholstery vinyl products and athletic equipment. Programs that McPherson pine bluff or a partnership with private sector companies an employee inmates at prevailing wages. With the exception of regular **** salaries personal services matching capital outlay continue appropriations fiscal year twenty one authorized capital outlay request of a hundred seventy thousand dollars for fiscal year twenty two and two hundred thousand dollars for fiscal year twenty three for new equipment. Is that your recommendation provides for the agency requested over ten point two million dollars for each year the biennium. Page two sections the farm operations appropriation this is a self supported agriculture operation of the division of correction provides vegetables meat milk and eggs to the inmate population generates revenue by selling products such as soybeans rice cotton and we. Primary goal the programs to provide meaningful work for inmates of which three hundred are currently provided jobs through the program while maximizing revenues by providing and selling the affirmation goods annually two and a half million pounds of vegetables are provided from the preferred processing facility at the Varner unit for and make consumption cold storage facility in creamer in the Commons unit provides beef and dairy products for all units about two twenty thousand acres. I devoted to cash crops vegetables Hey production in livestock fiscal year twenty cash crop sales brought in around five point four million dollars from regular salaries personal services matching cap outlay the continuing level appropriation as fiscal year twenty one authorized they disease capital outlay request for new equipment is four hundred ninety thousand dollars in fiscal year twenty two and five hundred fifty thousand dollars fiscal year twenty three but lower than the fiscal twenty one year authorizing out of six hundred eighty thousand dollars exactly recommendation. As for the agency request and over seventeen point one million dollars for fiscal year twenty two and seventeen point two million dollars for fiscal year twenty thirty. The inmate welfare treasury cash appropriation okay on page three oh eight is funded by cash and treasury and provides inmates opportunity to purchase various commissary supplies such as hygiene items paper and stamps in very snack foods. Centralized banking system manages the inmate funds and the profits from the stores are used to purchase items that benefit inmates. Such as tables and chairs for visitation televisions televisions and recreational equipment with the exception of regular salaries and personal services matching. Attorney level appropriations fiscal year twenty one authorized executive recommendation provide for the agency requested just over fourteen point two million dollars for both years the biennium. On page three hundred ten you see the non tax revenue receipts appropriation misappropriation is funded by proceeds drive from contractual agreements with the telephone service provider for the operation of a cordless telephone system. Program allows inmates to call family or friends with a portion of the receipts from such calls paid a department of corrections appropriations used for and make assistance projects security equipment long term needs in general appropriations as provided by the board of corrections. Commissions been waive the restricted visitation policies do a cover nineteen resulting in a decrease in revenue receipts. Continuing level of appropriations fiscal year twenty one authorize it just over two and a half million dollars for both years the biennium executive recommendation provides for the agency request. Page three twelve shows the paws in prison appropriation miscast preparation is funded by marketing and this distribution proceeds in cash donations house in prison support the training of rescue dogs by inmates and allows for the docks of initially be adopted as pets continuing level appropriations fiscal year twenty one authorized the executive recognition provides for the agency requested one hundred fifty thousand dollars for both years of the biennium. The medical monetary sanctions appropriations located on page three hundred fourteen cash and treasury preparation is funded from liquidated damages impose according to correction community correction contracts for comprehensive inmate and offender health services. These funds be used to improve healthcare services for inmates there no change levels in a preparation the executive recommendation provides for the entity request at one point seven million dollars for both use the by any. And that concludes my presentation division of correction I thank you Sir Representative makes recognized for a question thank you Mr chairman the question I have is on page three oh one this new line item there one to ADD for energy savings I guess my first question might be the staff is this something that other state agencies of don and if we are giving them this energy savings. Line item which as I understand it is from savings there realizing from the energy efficiency that they've created. What are we authorizing them to do with this money is is basically up do whatever we want line item. Your record. Thank you Mr chairman can Kevin Anderson bureau of legislative research this is new the I'm not familiar with this haven't seen this and have it dealt with it in the past so I think I have to deferred the agency. as that term is something that we can get a answer on from the agency is my my assumption would be for having savings at the savings should be going back into their operating expenses and not create a new line item saying we've got the savings. So my in my other question would be how how do we determine what those savings are and then what are we gonna do with the savings if they're gonna do import energy which is energy related which is what this is that okay yeah you might could justify that otherwise I don't see the point of. Creating this new line item. your if I may use Mr it. Yes Sir. Meeks the way this this line item was created at the request of the board of corrections we're just the rationale you raised in your line of questioning we have a multi phase energy efficiency project going on right now within the division of correction and are bored because they contracts that sal specific savings threshold that must be guaranteed to be realized during the course of that contract our board wanted to specifically allocate those savings to our they're fairly sizeable capital. Total maintenance needs within the department so this line item will be structured specifically Bob ward policy to be limited to only utilization for issues related to maintenance within our correctional facilities and the division of Kirk. So with that said instead of creating a separate line and I understand I think it's great that we want to track our energy savings I think we should do that to know that we're getting a return for that investment but why not just if you're expecting you know one point four million dollars why not just increase your capital outlay line item by one point four million dollars to reflect that versus creating a whole new. Line. Of it were the records ward that day be able to see specifically way understating are all white and what is being done with. Okay but the intention is those saving for only gonna go towards capital improvements and. Because my concern is I don't want to just give you a blank check to go spend one point five million dollars **** nilly you have a plan in place to make sure that these only go towards. Maintenance operation capital right. Yes Sir there the old there there is the of wanna be a specific plan in place and it just won't be a blank check a slush fund what the department to use that is at its discretion thank you that's that's what I want to hear thank you Sir thank you Mister yes Sir no Sir represent makes I think what it will also help do is in the futures were looking at this again it's flag its own separate preparation once those funds are expended they've gone through the project then it's not you know what we're not trying to figure out where it is in the bigger capital outlay sue there's will be more transparency and appreciate the for side by the board Let's go to the seat fifty five of Representative della Rosa. Thank you Mr chair I have a question about the form operations. The it's on page three of five in three of six but Thanks I've got two questions about it one. It looks like you're wanting to put. Additional four hundred ninety thousand in capital outlay in fiscal year twenty two five hundred fifty five thousand in fiscal year twenty three. For a new replacement capital equipment which I can understand. But it doesn't look like there's funding for that so is that something you're just going to be coming back for asking for the funding and right now you're just asking for the appropriation. Both are agriculture in correctional these are structured the. So what did they do not received general revenue funding costs say they're all raised so if they don't generated with the our. Property. That means that they are able to live coverage okay the second question I had is is what approximately what percentage of the inmates of food consumption comes from the farm operation. Minimum is we have us generated by point six million includes consumption in order for the arts the revenue stabilization trust fund loan could be forgiven last year's consumption number was just at six. That forgive me but does that mean half their food comes from their orders on earth I mean I'm just wondering how much how much forming they're doing and how much of that they actually get to eat themselves I mean or they've fully. Supplied first and then you sell the access or how does how does that work. The bill gross to you if you will allow birds you are chief financial officer Jenny was. I also want to be able to actually provide better aged. These with which you do our work as used to provide. You're recognized since the question. And she on. Right. Williams with the department of correction and. Would you please. Repeat the question I'm sorry I'm having a little difficulty hearing. The house wearing a mask to ensure that didn't help anything. What percentage approximately of the inmate's food consumption comes from the farm operation in in other words the fresh food You know dairy of beef vegetables fruit it cetera how much of what they actually eat comes from the farm operation versus how much. Is is sold I'm just trying to figure out what the priority is with it is the priority. To sell and make enough money to fund the operation or is the priority to feed the inmate's fresh healthy food verses crappy comes in again. The primary goal of the program is to provide useful and meaningful work for the inmate I thank you for days that the fishing cost effective the need for inmates without sin and and maximize those revenues from production and sales of marketable field proper lack not and. The department is authorized upon approval of the the at as the make line from budget thank unless they contract for the operation so if we certify that funds for you to be created prisoners in that land forget that and for the following year and so. Approximately twenty five or thirty percent of. The. David I'm parking for your twenty by the arm within approximately eighteen to twenty million and the warehouse dot. Okay thank you. Senator Stubblefield you're recognized for a question. Thank you Mr chairman. Solomon I'm not sure going back to the loft not division how much revenue to the beef cattle segment of livestock division generate last year. This will be we have that number what are you I. So the bill. But they did it and probably before this call is as aren't and it were those with those cattle marketed in the state of Arkansas. Or with A marketed in. We ordered our. The home we also use a on line auctioning service which they reads obviously state and. Okay did the a couple more questions chair real quick. Rated loss last year and how many days during that fiscal year to the day was the day ever on a degrade status during the last fiscal year. Sir I don't have that in Wesley are agriculture ministry We but I can't follows after you get this question okay if you could get that for me and let me know if the dairy actually operated at a loss. In the poultry. Section of the. Division also. Yes Sir thank you Mr thank you chairman. Senator. Senator bond you're recognized for a question all right of. Thank you. So the secretary graves could you tell us what our current population is and and the department of corrections. This morning are. The. Thirteen thousand eight hundred and thirteen. Our of that is our in house out of. Which does not include those inmates house. Do you have the it well I'll ask you of the county jail site that's the lowest in a long time right yes Sir very internal during this endemic with the support of jump right in saying and reporter correction you implementing target the these program that have allowed us. Lois ladies Majority marker so maybe in the last ten years would you say or maybe longer than that. Yes what do we have in county jail backup. Our county jail back up we have two hundred and thirty one emails read the bill eighteen hundred twenty five males backed up and county deal That number had. Approximately eight cards. Inmates there are in what's called a short term basis program where the parole board actually with someone to the division of corrections for nine days and days and there are. Thank you all they are placed on the back of lives order for the. Allen's compensated For their stay Instagram Ballinger program transferred into the division of corrections very long winded way of saying of that absolutely two thousand interviews that are one of the agency record what is only about twelve hundred of those are come into Arkansas. So our our overall numbers or go to and I think what I was looking at in your budget here if you look at the overview I guess it on page two eighty nine it looks like our in make hearing tested the. Transformation makes the comparisons difficult but we. We're not saying significant savings in our inmate care and custody in this budget do we have a plan and I think the legislature should have a plan to keep her trying keeper numbers that are confined in our prison system down at these you know historically low levels we have that plan in place and if so we're in our budget in these budget numbers on and make care and custody is our lower population being considered or we predicting another insignificant increase in population. In terms of our numbers population yes yes in a bar we do have of contingencies in place that should we begin to see a taken our in house population we do have contingencies in place that we could have led me to maintain the level where act which we feel to be sufficient in order for us to maintain Necessary capacity to isolating quarantine as needed in terms of our budget are we really look at reason transformation reinvestment efficiency reinvestment has R. or T. so for us we entities that our budget is relatively flat and we're not coming to the the legislator asking for Recipe any cruises that off budget because we're looking at how can we do board how can we. With what we are currently appropriated with what we're currently. I a couple other things real quick on page three of. The Lawson page number but the holiday. the holiday. Compensation the five million five hundred thousand this new line item in the budget. I had it on page three of one but I think that's wrong. I know there is three oh one sorry the holiday is that going to house to make sure that we pay our officers are uniformed personnel on time for their overtime and comp time I know that's been a huge thing where we have an always paid a month times been very upsetting to a lot of different members of the legislature. yes is that a of pieces the birds in our One track to of a over time and holiday in a timely basis I actually authorized on earlier this month A. out of who com two staff we're look where checking now to be able to do in another pay out of a crude holiday and over time at the end of this calendar year as of last week our of. Over Tom liabilities of were we had we we have a rule five hundred and thirty seven thousand in accrued over time are holiday liability as of last week is not a hundred and twenty five thousand approximately so that is great progress I was in the are you a member to your previous service in the legislature there was a time when the department was carrying liabilities in excess of fifteen million dollar and I'm I'm thankful that we've been able to adjust operations with the support of the executive and with the General Assembly not be there L. at this point in our existence the establishment of a holiday line item is really goes back to the same answered that I get a Representative makes his life question about in energy efficiency and this this is about to that budgeting and transparency operations we have historically pay our holidays out of a group salaries. so what we are proposing to be year is take that appropriation out of our regular salaries line I will let down to its own line item so it's clear to our board clear to. The legislator clear to our employees where we're paying holiday out of how much you have left allows us to be more strategic operations alright last question you mentioned licensed mental health professional recruitment that something that you and I talked about before an addiction treatment you know we're supposed to we're supposed to be giving these folks opportunity to rehabilitate themselves do we have our or we hired up on psychologists and object detection treatment specialists and we've been behind on that in the past and then a last and then I'll be quite honest the second question just to say in other industries we would increase pay grades for these people to get on hired we haven't done that within state government time so are we figured we have a plan to get these people hired because we know addiction treatment and mental health issues are huge issue in our present population. As I mentioned earlier we just hired one last week a recruiter which is the first time in several years that we've had a dedicated position spoken school Kamel one employee recruitment that individuals power to you will be constructing a plan with feedback from my office in our division directors on how we increase our efforts to prove uniformed staff food service and licensed mental health staff of which are social workers are included in that descriptor we have enough positions I have a do we. Or vacancies that I would like yes Sir but we do have sufficient positions on the books right now to meet RD should we be able to fully assess. And I I just have the follow ups are how many positions we have open there and the licensed mental health professionals it's. Once bond built you ask that question and I will we will notice that you can't you can get that to me via email but I think that should be a property thank you for your patience Mister chair. I would senator and I think god will notification she got someone from Activision that may be able to help answer some of Senator Stubblefield questions is that right. Yes Sir all right yeah I will go ahead and in turn them on and let them kind of maybe go through some Senator Stubblefield question. Actually we're here. If you all could just go ahead recognize yourself for the committee in a if you need me to will will turn Senator Stubblefield back on and of letting repeated questions if you're good to go you want me to start. Kim dexter Payneham director for the division of corrections. On the. If you would repeat the question of Senator Stubblefield. Center can you turn there any are. You're recognized thank you Mr chairman up for the course first question I had was how much revenue to the livestock division generate during the last year. Senate I'm not sure the exact number on that I could I could get that for you I know of the the farm division generated a little over five million dollars last year of but I don't know the exact dollar amount on the last up to you can't break down the number of caves that were sold or the number of wake as it were so. The twelve hundred thirty BCal. Yes Sir I have to that have to get it broke down for you and city if possible Sir okay if you could if you could get a copy of those receipts of where those cattle were marketed and the price received from those of those cattle. And also also the the the dairy operation. Was there any days during the last year that it would it fail to operate because of the degrade status. Yes Sir there were there were some days that we did not operate the dairy and we've also had some issues with do recall with that we do not operate the dairies yes Sir and how exactly did the code would interrupted dairy operation well as it is you know our inmate population assist us in our dairy operations so at that particular facility we head of covert nineteen outbreak we weren't allowed to have inmates out at the dairy working at that time. What drug you know is wells ida cal's have to me milk twice today who who milk for cal yes Sir that would that would that would be staff out trying to do it but I production was not as great as it would have been on a normal basis with our inmate population out when you said your production was not. Up is much as it normally would have been. Yes Sir we we we are a sworn allowed to turn out to the sea this. So the staff for art is not good dairyman. What you're basically saying is that correct I'm not going to say this over we we did our staff could never replace the inmate population that we have that assists the we don't have enough staff to replace them on hand for in an emergency situation maybe the inmate's the to be run in the dairy. No service this week we've got staff that run the berry but the base will rise the inmates how many days was a dirty grated. What reason I would have to get with the farming get those numbers circuit at email those to your call you. Yes W. five what about just one more question what about the poultry operation. What kind of a. Profited. Mike in the in the last year. Or did it did it return a profit. It would you explain exactly how that poultry operation operate. I have to get you numbers on the poultry the of for. Is part of the five million I don't have it broke down Sir but I can break it all down in and deliver it to you and you want to know how the poultry operation operate is it is it a laying operation of brawl operation. So what we do we start out with the. So we start out with course with the cheeks in the old something in the name of the house. We start out with the cheese of course once we raise them in it for six to eight weeks we move over to a different house a laying house where they produce the service laying operation yes Sir at youth and you did you have a cell the aids. Yes Sir we sale lease and we also will feed the X. who are inmate population right. Is there ever been a a sale of age to outside sources or trade for eggs for any other food products so we see Eakes to lark Arkansas community correction is we'll so based on yes Sir our our thank you Mr chairman a Tallahassee. I think Senator. All right let's move to Representative Beck you're recognized for a question. Thank you Mr chair of I've I believe this is for the agency of I'm looking on page skews me three oh one in the out of state that the notice that in twenty twenty to twenty twenty three that number one two zero and I was wondering does that correspond with that. Move of. To the regional. Yes Sir. Yes Sir okay. Yeah reallocation of the existing but we county contract. To offset a portion of the operation costs for the southeast Arkansas. Okay and I I thought so but I was. I was looking at the numbers as I travel across in. We reduced about twenty two million and then the regional area we increased about forty. For. We increased forty actually forty four four point four skews me I I. Our state correct okay with. With decreased about two point two million and we increased about four point four million then we advanced on father where we decreased this would be in the twenty twenty to twenty twenty three we went to zero which was a decrease of two point two million. And yet and we have another increase of about four point four million so. Help me out with those numbers. Thank you Representative Beck that is is due to the a quiz operating costs for the southeast Arkansas regional jail but also the fact that in the first year of the biennium we're only going operate that jail facility for six months in the second year providing. For twelve months of operating costs it and I realize is these are only appropriation numbers but using the appropriation numbers that it actually shows that. We we're spending we're serving a dollar we spend two dollars to save a dollar. And the numbers are almost exactly double. The. There we go there all is. should not solely be a financial considerations again housing out of state is not the preferred housing option for the board of corrections for the executive or ward record for myself we need to bring arms at this facilities out these Arkansas provide sentence a state and secure option to hal's the raids we your allocate we County Arkansas right in state along with providing additional one hundred. And. Sixty fourth day's. In additional capacity. A okay I understand I do recognize the importance of bringing those individuals back home or better hopefully a better result once there they release but of if it's okay Mister I have one more question. A my question was on another line also on page three one the energy savings and efficiency which is the one point four million that we were represented makes was talking about earlier how exactly. Of the cells funds. Flow into that for instance I would assume and I and I may be incorrect about this that would be decreased energy costs related to some of the things that you've done so how would you determine that figure would that just be a number that would flow out of your operating expenses assuming that your energy is is in your operating expenses of. How the hell does that money get there I guess. Because it would be a savings. Mr Lee or miss Williams so the question. Miss Williams. I am in my understanding is in and maybe maybe I'm office before you have the start savings start program to get to spend the money on the on the items that that my understanding they were splitting this out out from capital outlay to demonstrate what they were going to spend on the sufficiency program with the head not something I'm right so this should be something that goes away in future years which is also the benefit to being its own separate line item you know after the exhaust the program to their initial purchases in this is something eventually as the program matures we're not going to see a because there won't be the capital outlay. Hello. My apologies any William and again with the department of correction yes this requested just to re allocate from our operating expense line nine. And he's pay the debt service on that and teller and energy bill online it is the energy cash flow approximately three hundred and twenty eight Alan grant and an annual cash flow three hundred twenty eight thousand each year that we eight back pain and and are requesting. Utilized for future projects that the agent with at any capital project or department. So it is an actual you guys are making an estimate on reduced operating expenses that are going into the this is to help you pay for obviously some for the project but also for some future energy saving project is that would that be a correct statement yes Sir yes Sir it is energy savings that we have in the one point seven that guaranteed from integrity left the annual debt service payment of one point four million. With that in your past the three hundred and twenty eight thousand thank you very much. Johnson. Thank your seat eighty eight. The just wanna make a comment that I mean it's going to have an effect on. everybody wants to see the pluses and the minuses in the farm operation and whenever I re review this two years ago. Your greatest the. S. it is going to be land leveling and adding additional whales for future income that'll that'll make the biggest difference when are reviewed your operations and with the price increases over the last year. I would I would to. I would encourage you to use those funds the director and and your operations to the. To the to do those needed things so because those are just direct sales there's very little that sense corn it can be fed to the cattle and things that the but that will have a great impact on your production if you if you are able to water and efficiently water and I think that'll make your operations a lot more Tangibly Efficient to the to the people that are looking at these numbers the but this is my suggestion that's all the statement I wanted to make its just reinvest so so you'll have a better future. Yes Sir I agree thank you. Thanks center for the comments members was gonna remind you with policy for not speaking you're not taking a during need to put your mask on with that I'll turn over Senator hammer. Thank you Mr chair A on the farm operations five point six million is what you'll get out of the. I want to the funds can you tell me the. Just refresh my memory as far as how that applies against the expense to run the farm I know there's a value in having three hundred inmates that are actively working and not you know in the barracks understand that part of it but as far as the overall operation the pharmacy expense the justification to keep the farmers to sell on it that five point six million that we contribute can you tell me how it played in this year. Hammer as as on CC no we we are able to receive any type of. Loans or any type of contingency support to get seeds in the ground to you get a quick meeting two harvests maintain our fields the gate of purchase the to keep our livestock. So that five point six million are as a loan provides a contingency to the. Our division in order to operate until in a way to Dan generate funds that reviews are food costs it is always be in the position of the state should we certain arm generate dollar for dollar what draws down from that are it's a long day and those funds are we're giving because it is viewed as the state receiving that. Do you have a comprehensive plan to make that a reality what you just spoke to and taking in consideration what senator Johnson said because over the years I've been down here so is a healthy debate about the farming about level in the land dwelling drilling wells. Do you have I'm a director and I have actually asked for Mar eight the. The straighter one on his multi years later so we can see the Parkers. I've been made a book at the steps necessary to get our farm are all right. The place that we all want to correct all right what your current recidivism rate. You know right all our. Our the division rate is approximately fifty six percent within the division occurred. So the numbers that senator bond was talking about what goes first reduction in the number in makes a male fifty six percent they all make it back into your system and just recycle through. Well being reduction that are discussing why with senator bond is more. Operation Not necessarily a reduction in recidivism because we look at recidivism three years al it's you. The most recent of recidivism numbers that will looking that we look at where we're selective of the operational decisions we were making a calendar year twenty sixteen. Okay and then on page three oh one extra help positions. The number of positions has gone up from thirteen up to a hundred and seventy but if I read the budget right the budget amount stays flat at a hundred thousand can you help me understand why the increase in extra help positions but the budget number doesn't gravitate up. So the number extra help positions that we utilize and FY twenty was only thirteen are we were on the authorized. I believe that actions your hundred seventy from my recollection of Staff. Fourteen day that one sixty eight next hi. In seventy authorized. Extra help positions we've only. Fiscal year thirteen are you gonna ask me is. Okay then the last question is work release it's seventeen dollars a day. you know I've had quite a few conversations back when Kobe was run in full force that a lot of work release prisoners did not get to get out and work in the community what was the total dollar impact to your budget how does it and how does it have any effect on the numbers that were reviewing and your budget question. Nearly one. Senator hammer asking. Lead to. That you. The. Number of thirty if Senator hammer are work release from grants were only five hundred were only five hundred ninety eight thousand dollars. How does that translate to the impact to the budget. those special though rates going to a special revenue fund which we do not use for What I would call direct operational cost so the impact will be somewhat mitigated I how we utilize those funds those funds are traditionally you because we as are most apartments not funded for a capital equipment of procurements we use our work release rant to procure capital equipment for facilities things like so AC AC units laundry with with me emergency vehicles are procured out of our lease rates what the reduction in rent payments will do is we do this our ability to procure those funds as as may become necessary for the department in the inmates were not charge the seventeen dollars a day why they were not working is that correct image not it wasn't postpone to the backside or anything like that was made and were released is not working of they are not charter thank you Mr. Thank you senator. See see twenty two. LA reckon thank you Mr chair secretary graves ms Williams might need to get this isn't this information but I'm looking at page is two ninety four but I probably. Let's take it to ninety three just a summary that might make more clear what I'm asking about. about the work release program and we have the inmate's if you look at line just line three of the summary what they have the opportunity to earn pay restitution fines and fees and then they reimburse seventeen dollars a day for maintenance and operation of the centers out what I'm wondering about if either one of you can give me now I tell me later what's left for the A that the person who is working here. Or is anything left for that person is for is any kind of personal funds yes yes Sir Elliott the specific amount after you collected is contingent on the. That individual salary at the job site they are arts and. And After any under obligations I will bar not that the department was required to collect are taking out being the individual's arms are placed in a. Trust account that they are limit the rock from our intention is that our work release inmates are able to leave our care custody rates a savings account that allows jumpstart the a lot. And and in multiple cases nine or inmates we do our best to be in excess of ten thousand dollars. Johnson I don't like. Do you a day it is there a requirement that they are paid to a prevailing wages or how's that determine what they're. General wage will be. Sir I'm sorry. Little bit multiple mine as it is there is there is there what are they paid of the prevailing wage of wherever they are. What did you yes rebate and. and. State lands in certain in certain cases grants and we have individuals our Mississippi county and work release Facility your work in the steel industry in their salaries are significantly above the state minimum wage they would be commensurate with anybody else that's working at that level for example now in the steel industry is is that correct Senate bill. Yeah okay thank you so much I appreciate that that's all I have Mr chair. Thanks. Thank you senator the seat eighteen represented with you're recognized for a question. on the page three oh one. The explanation I didn't quite understand the explanation of the show expenditures in nineteen and twenty of ninety one thousand four thirteen positions in you've got a hundred and seventy budget but the the a male remain a hundred pounds. Yes Sir so the way our extra help positions are utilized it is the intent on what those extra help positions are. The staff is. So you're there in that area extra help positions is this balanced manner A. I. T. position. It is going to pay whatever the salary is or that information technology grade is though positions are established and a lower rate and users one is going to pay the salary at that position so those thirteen provision that we're utilize. When when established generated salary committee the department also. Total we only have a hundred thousand dollars in appropriation FOR Exter extra help positions they're not acting. Be close to a report on job is very much to be eight one as needed and cities maybe a week or two your. So so. Thirteen were a higher paid positions T.. Is that what you're saying. Jean extra help positions in twenty twenty the actual budget. That they were happy how are paid then some of what you may. I would have to get back with our age arts and I get this city utilization of Exter extra help positions all right that leads me to my next question Mr chairman it by Monday. Rational fees and this may have been covered. We spent sixty nine million. We had seventy four budgeted and then your show one six hundred and eighty three thousand. What was it what's the difference I mean wine. But what what's the difference between six hundred ninety three thousand and sixty nine million. I'm available. You referred to a line item again. one question I health Mister secretary I think we can cover that real quick that's were you all did some of the shared services transfers so turn it back over I made a mistake the little bit. Thank you Mr chair to represent net is the. Which one is that seventy three point five million dollar transferred a shared services for the medical contract for medical and pharmaceutical care I believe it also includes dental for the inmates. Of the. The next question operating expense on page three oh six from E.. For my operation your show and a point to your request to get a point man that's of. Three million dollar enquiries. Sorry what page page three oh six nine. Operating expenses at the four. Farming operation. Represent would again this is appropriation only the card is intended to be self sufficient our very own leads and where they are able to generate. Course of their operations. This next question one more. Forming people post Purchase of cable and me six hundred and forty nine thousand. We're we're in your. We're in your calculations do you show the income following center Stubblefield question where do you show one funding sources the income that you have in the cattle sales. Two against this six hundred and forty nine thousand expense. You get an income I mean you sell cattle and. We're is shown. Yes there is income for the for the meet. and also there's what we call a refund to expenditure so the bill seal meat well actually build bill sale cattle and then they'll they'll buy meat with the with the cattle sales. What I'm saying we're is that income for the cattle shall. When you sell you get dollars on June. It's it's in the revenue it goes to the revenue line item. Wing IT staff can answer exactly where that is just for which special revenue. Yes Sir if you look on page three of six and you stay in column twenty thousand nineteen twenty twenty go down to the bottom part that five point five million and special revenue is funds that were generated by those sales and crop sales it's all combined with the Linn's who. Well the numbers of the question. The budget in nine point one million. In the five point five million in revenue. What whether we budget nine one I mean I understand how you over calculating all your form and come down there show special revenue will. It would appear to me that that the. You would show it is income relative to the other levels above it. The purchase of cattle in me. Well how many K. L. should we bet. It one dollar ma'am. If page six forty nine. It kills the sale. Our. Yes Sir. Yes Sir. We're represented wooden I think it would be better bills this all This is not of what I would consider to be a traditional on balance sheet and the questions you're asking are of bills you would obviously expect to see on a traditional farm ballot she we can get two Kevin for dissemination so you and Senator Stubblefield any other member of the counseling JDC that would like it the detailed balance sheet that we maintain and Carly for Activision so you can see specifically in FY twenty how many tells we so how much we got for those Carol's specifically there are specifically will remember new generated from our row crops and gardens and the other business lines within our activities we'll get that to you this afternoon okay thank you Mr chairman I submit to you that is it relates to the flooring operation down there and I know we have many farmers in the legislature several would know more about it than I have to do with where we're going is a true picture of the farming operation that is always been an issue. Relative to profit loss. We're either making money or we're losing money and the this certainly no reflection on you all at the penitentiary this is the way it's been done. But we need we need something that reflects when you sell health and you back as well as in you feed Kells or all for poultry or whatever you've got other calls you got in. And your redeemer in a profit or not but this to me this the joint we're we're we're spending eleven point five million we're requesting seventeen point one million that you no less six million dollar increase in the farming operation. A Representative will not lose your. Right now you're recognized again represent a wooden when a when you look at the appropriation summary or both are present ease the division and our bond funds we're not asking or eating general revenue from the state wide program we're simply asking for the authorization and the revenue we are generating both of those areas which are any intended to be self sufficient if we ask for twenty million dollars well form. And we already your rating sending me again here in revenue you are able to be we're only going to spend seventy dollars is is not what I would call a traditional agency requests where there may be some general revenue dollars tax all of the students don't generated as run. Appreciate that miss secretary and that is new to this is been this is an ongoing situation the circumstance the long before you ever I'm just asking for a ballot she a profit loss the shows the income shows a I'll go you made a profit or you didn't. Amend. Not intended is not intended intended to penalize you all of us and when we you know we need just do away with it is just simply meant that we like you have to be good steward for the people of Arkansas all relative to what we're spending what the income is and once you know we just need to look at it thank you Mr chairman. Yes Sir. And and so I think we're hearing is I just want to amend we see the appropriation there's access preparation because you don't know how much you're going to grow or what price is going to be whatever and so it's hard to follow that in the budget presentation they just want to see a piano and a ballot sheet of kind of what's happened and how much is going when you're not gonna receive revenue for the items that you know we're being consumed you know at the facilities so that needs to be plugged in someone I in my mind it probably with clouds things the most is that never kind of the it is harder to follow so if we just all get that the members I think that that will help With that we're gonna go to seat eighty five which thank you chairman Representative Bentley just be recognized Secretary thank you for coming to answer questions today I have not seen if you could tell me where how much we're spending on drug rehab in the present and giving little detail quick on the operation which in there because we know that's what I'm forty brings many of our folks in the force for the drug issue so what are we doing on that how much are we spending on that. The only those bonds would be from in within our other inmate here because the expenditure will follow up after this meeting with staff and giving specific dollar amounts was standing but generally you have drug treatment programs so let's see within the state we operate on their beauty community program within the recreation of corrections something treatment is and the division of corrections along with not treatment drug and alcohol education programs these are we're in the process now of used for sure in our program the division of broader. A our quality improvement program evaluation administrator of with our charge be looking at our current programmatic offerings and making a determination of are we following evidence based standards industry recognized. Within those areas to structure our program to card with the department of one of the scenes we are having to deal with that all of no first first hand with the term various communities we represent is the impact of opioids we're seeing more and more inmates understandably coming to our care us the opioid dependency so we're having to evaluate our program. He closed and also explore the utilization and this is the there within the division of corrections that something grant funded several years within our community correction the reason that director pain and I both have an insurance. Meeting. Thank you please give us more details on that on specifics I would appreciate it and change. Representative seat ninety to believe that Senator Clark. Thank you Mr chair and I don't want to be redundant but on the farm. Of I have said here for eight years and listen to us Senator Eddie Jo Williams question in question question and Senator Stubblefield and now represent of wooden and it doesn't seem that it would be hard in fact I know it wouldn't be hard to get the numbers that they've asked for and so I would like to join in of in saying that a. We after at least eight years that I know of we need to just get the numbers thank you. I think Senator will have if you don't mind if you all can provide that information staff and is suppose just piecemeal wanted out to the various members and that way we don't have anybody turn the Mike on this specifically asked for information it will just letter sent out to the committee. Alright members that think that takes us to the end of any other questions or comments. All right seeing none. What's the will of the committee. We have a motion to adopt executive director by senator Elliott we have a second by Senator Hendren all those in favor signify by saying aye all those posed all right it's been adopted we're gonna move now to division of community correction. Sir you're recognized thank you Mr chair at. Community correction preparation summary can be found on page three seventeen six total appropriation for the division. First of these the residents castrating appropriation on page three nineteen the preparation provides for the operation of community correction facilities commissary. Is a self supporting operations which residents can purchase various. I'm sorry supplies primarily snack foods in the department's very centers. Appropriation also utilizes the previously mentioned proceeds from the cordless telephone program. These funds are used to purchase items of mutual benefits all residents the proper preparation is also used for inmate assistant projects security equipment and general operations the exception of capital outlay continue preparation is fiscal year twenty one authorized. Cap outlay request for six hundred sixty thousand dollars in fiscal year twenty two and a hundred thousand dollars in fiscal year twenty three will be used to purchase replacement vehicles and capital equipment is needed executive recommendation provide for the agency request for both years the biennium. Okay on page three twenty one the second appropriation for the division of community correction is the community correction special appropriation. Operations you I support until probation parole services as well as for special programs for substance abuse and mental health treatment. Special revenue supporting this appropriation include fees and sanctions levy by courts are authorized by the board of corrections and paid by offenders. Probation pro fees provide safety equipment vehicles drug testing supplies and the regular salary and personal services matching line items in this preparation being discontinued to reflect the reallocation of those positions to the community correction state appropriation. One point eight million dollars also being moved from community correction programs to establish the transitional housing line item in order to better manage trans transitional housing expenses I which is kind of what secretary grades is talking about with the transparency and. To level of preparation for capital outlay of one point two million dollars is requested for replacing equipment is needed exact a recommendation provides for the agency requested just over fourteen point five million dollars for both your the biennium. Next we have community corrections county jail reimbursement procreating appropriation located on page three twenty three much like the county jail reimbursement appropriation for the division of correction standing as he was question three million dollars appropriation almost two point seven million dollars in generate a new funding being transferred to department of correction shared services namely to the refund reimbursement line item U. SEC a recommendation provide for the agency requested almost two point seven million dollars each year the biennium. Page three twenty six you'll see the preparation for community correction state this division you the division uses this preparation for daily operations funding comes from general revenue and cash funds received from the rental of the buildings Texarkana unit to other state agencies. This division also uses this preparation for federal grant awards appropriation is based on what we saw on division of correction that most of the changes we do the transfer positions and expenses to shared services. He's transfers include fifty two positions overtime operating expenses and professional fees after these transfers and on top of fiscal year twenty one authorize appropriation agencies requesting roughly five hundred twenty five thousand dollars each year for eleven authorized positions four thousand dollars each year of the biennium for expenses relating to the opening two hundred thirty seven additional beds. Relocation of three million two hundred eighty four. Sorry three hundred three million two hundred eighty five thousand dollars and operating expenses to the reentry line item for program expenses and unfunded capital outlay of five hundred thousand dollars for equipment replacement. The agency request additional general revenue funding of almost six point five million dollars to restore category the funding and support operations is a recommendation provide for general revenue funding amounts just over ninety four point three million dollars in fiscal year twenty two just under nine ninety four point four million dollars in fiscal year twenty three. The agency requests to discontinue the appropriation located on page three twenty eight for court accountability grants the one time funding being expended it's preparation provided distribution grant funds to adult and juvenile specialty court programs. The final preparation for that is with the division of community correction is the federal asset forfeiture appropriation was established in fiscal year twenty to provide FOR operating expenses funding for this preparation is derived from the federal asset forfeitures settlements and agency request is five hundred thousand dollars fiscal year twenty two and twenty three exactly recommendation provides for the agency request Mister chairman I believe that concludes my presentation on this section. Thanks Sir. Fifty five Representative della Rosa. You're recognized in thank you Mr chair my question is regarding the residential services appropriation of page three the eighteen three nineteen Can you explain to me how how that works are I'm I'm reading the description on page three eighteen self supporting operations in which residents can purchaser is commissary supplies in the department's various centers including the telephone program. Explain to me how that works me where where the inmates getting the money to pay for any of this in the first place is it through outside work I'm trying to envision what this looks like. Your secretary you will take that we have somebody here. Mr the bill also this as the of same is the case with the division of correction these fonts are generated through deposits made in the residence trust accounts by their friends and family they in turn. Use those funds that are deposited in their trust accounts to purchase items at their leisure art community correction center commissaries or utilize the video visitation equipment or utilize the telephone system both those Three contracts the commissary media business Asian and telephone systems have common have commission structure there being conned me into this residential services cash on now with the endemic we have reduced the commissions or telephone and video visitation make it more practical for residents and inmates to remain in contact with their families well we have suspended in person visitation so we're not realizing commissions from either of those two contracts into this cast on right now with the division is continuing to receive commissions from the sale of commissary items to residents. Just just for example and prior to that the current situation right now where you've reduced the or eliminate commission I was just a phone call cost. Williams the number to all contract in front of you might be one thing that. I do not. Representative della Rosa house bill will Rescue the repaired and have the telephone region from the I'll get those from staff and fall back on I apologize at appreciated if I can get that and also what commissary costs as well because I have a fundamental issue because I mean I realize what you're doing with it. But I think everybody here needs to realize we're not punishing the inmates were punishing their families their families are the ones that are having to pay for somebody to be able to get a bar of soap or for them to be able to get deodorant and it's it's almost accounts to extortion of these families and I've I've never liked it I've never liked the whole process but I I'd appreciate if I could get those rates because I'd like to see what it is we're charging the families to be able to communicate or for their loved ones to be able to get something that doesn't come directly from the kitchen thank you this will lead them to the response was in the air. Thank you. up next is Representative back. Thank you Mr chair up missed sector of looking at Page three twenty three of which is the it's understates the reimbursement for county jail. That's in may so we have house there. The correct. Yes this question of the accounting bill appropriation paid for injuries that are house in the it is in our community correction. I'm sorry could you repeat that in here that said if you can. This question of the county built on houses Hayes board residents that are waiting there will be a the division of community okay so. ana and I may be lawful my numbers here but you you you you mentioned that there were there were basically twelve hundred dollars that your commenters eight there's actually two thousand but you said that the eight hundred of them were in a different type of program. That the number that is down for the division of corrections the number of as though of this morning there are Hundred and fifteen. Of individuals being housed in A county jail awaiting bed space within our community correction centers or supervision section from or. Okay thank you of and I guess I was looking at the the going back to earlier we were talking about the regional. Jail that we were putting in and I I understood that. Of the they were gonna base hundred hundred sixty some odd pads that we're going to be used but two different counties in that regional center. Is that are occurring that allocation provides for right and one hundred it's nine the our to be utilized by Bradley and drew county at their discretion. So. So the so are is is there are we charging them to house their persons is that what you said what is actually Bradley drew county so so okay they're charging us to utilize their opinions okay. Our. I was just wondering why why he did this it seemed like we were having some of those new beds allocated in we want reducing this cost but I think you covered and thank you. Thank you Representative of C. eighty five percent of Bentley. Thank you chairman I appreciate just a couple quick questions that we have on three twenty one can you tell us some of the capital outlay projects to be a plan pretty big increase and capital outlay on that so as on page three twenty one. Yes. Some of the projects we're looking and within the division of community correction include building acquisition and FOR our. Vacation issue instead A hang rank in a lot of those locations I'm sorry I'm looking at law the wrong numbers that that appropriation is or the acquisition of Arkansas with our community correction I was looking at our budget was which is the separation that that that will quest is when the opposition of emergency. Set for a parole officers or whatever emergency vehicle all parole and probation officers and for our facility staff and our community correction centers why they are licensed alcohol and drug treatment facilities they operate within they operate operate as correctional. One more question chairman this okay. I'm looking at the professional fees on that same page as a pretty big increase as well the amount of money that we're spending a professional fees up to million dollars from a hundred thousand so can you tell me what we're using those funds for. As in the same page three twenty one for. Mr chair you will allow recognize this millions. provide. Sounds good miss Williams recognized. And if you need us to will. Airmen and any William that I'm I'm sorry I could not hear the page with the lan line nine in its up page three twenty one wall three twenty one is the page professional fees would be Allan two three. Line six so we went from a hundred thousand to a million dollars on that I'm just curious. Yes ma'am we will utilize that in the event that we need to an extent our medical contract. So case we need it for medical services or. Medical staff from gears on that. The department by the division and thank you share a medical contract. If the comprehensive medical dental and pharmaceutical services for the inmate. And we have. Traditionally background that general revenue appropriation then we added additional then that we needed to procure an additional funding to. Provide the medical contract for that as. Essentially a contingency or any kind of architectural fees or any other contract that we ninety. Okay thank you. Thank you Representative. Senator hammer you're recognized for a question thank you Mr chairman page three twenty four of our manual. And the question first question head was on the increase in operating expenses of four hundred thousand. Related to the opening of the two hundred thirty seven additional biz could you tell me again what that was for wine you need that request. We we have you realizing our our special revenue within the division okay and constructed homes are constructed dates and our Texarkana community correction center. Arkansas community corrections center in our state community correction center in west near this request provides the appropriation to operate those additional games at those locations okay and on the reallocation of the three point two eight five operating expenses to the re entry line why are you haven't to reallocate that money and put it over. Again transparency similar to the there were raised in the years correction appropriations four one entity there is have a dedicated line item were you treated or injury housing needs in Jersey so we get better correct though the expenditure of bill sponsor army asking our board asking you ask and. And almost all all right and then the last one on same pages about transferring personnel and sporty operation pro rations over from you over and if you get to the break down it's all going over to the shared services what are the benefits of moving those positions over to the shared services or is that because the the whole division moved over there or can you explain that please. So what we've done within the division of corrections are within the department of correction post transformation is so ministry on our previous house in. H. R. training accounting budgeting information technology policy. air. Yeah our patients are with their personal standards you're all B. we need we structure does aerials to not just served there started using for the entirety of the are we do all bills to the chair starts at ninety nine a appropriation bill earlier these are simply reallocation or positions that are associated funding I work. Division of community correction to the insurance services a preparation. So were there any identified savings by doing that take out the read the the conversation reduction and personnel but as far as anything that you can point to that created any savings by doing that is there anything you cannot the Roommate one of the things we really been able to do in here again or not A enterprise and system wide approach forty. Engine instead of our previous system which in some cases at the division of correction and the division of community correction because they have correctional facility that are. In some cases Jenner competing for the same work so we've been able to be more strategic within our The engine efforts in that particular area we've also been able to hold several positions within our shared services there so this morning that would be a position would your roughly about twenty five percent of our. **** authorization to make it more now in uptown starts your service which of the water to be directly to really take a hard week at their positions and Provide some planes as to what they will. Well not long term we've also in terms of the information that knowledge you source allocation we've been able to our we do our utilization of software license. Austin department by utilizing contracts in the county jail within a particular division on the smaller signer and it's our under vision of community correction will get a preparation are smaller and we've really been able to increase the level of operation. For that they are able to no we see instead of having to seeing or. Your me over to the operator process and service bureau the process the house now. Oscar. Having to the bill on the division of information systems FOR and use it in your support and for our. More boards commissions into our parking. Little rock so they now have one side not. We we've really been able to which scenes are near. Your benefits from transformation really looking for terrorists seeing our G.. Group system board of during my junior secretary. Thank you secretary. Of. I move on to a Representative will. For question. Mr secretary how many of those fifty two positions were like. I don't know how many of these Pacific fifty two positions were vacant at but within our shared services division as well as a whole which consist of positions that were have been rolled down from our division of community correction division of correction and our parole board we currently have forty eighty positions they can within our shared services unit which is approximately twenty five percent of our authorized staffing within that area it it your central office. Shared services. Yes Sir in your. Your. Office of accounting or whatever you call it So if you had forty eight fifty two. Are you saying that the forty eight were already there and you move fifty two more over there I'm saying the do provisions that ARE records on page twenty four are part of the box need one hundred ninety conditions that are within our shared services the division of that total one hundred and nine which consists of again and stepped into position publication of community correction includes positions transferred or. Rejection includes positions transferred our state Cold War of that whole one hundred ninety as of this morning forty eight or bills are thank you and as a indicated returns it Senator hammer we're Jean all prices are you ready our our station of our shared services model to determine if if the dollar bill thank you law. I'm still. Great we did if you had forty eight vacant you move fifty two over what what work was going done done by the forty eight vacancies how much. Where they. We have or you operate represent. We have a total of one hundred and ninety approximately shared services position on that one hundred and ninety. Fifty two of those came from the division of community correction on that told so we're not we didn't have forty eight thank you in the end we will number fifty two positions some of the forty eight that we have thank you likely word shared services position we will note from the division of community correction texted staff during your line of questioning and asked them to provide me a break down of our current forty eight thank you positions I was just giving an aggregate number in advance of the budget hearing this morning and we'll have that to be A list of responses we provide cabin after after our of the budget year in today. Thank you the next question this is of the staff. The old page three seventeen. Analysts Boeing only a simple answer. The the amendment to the shared services transfer. It shows it is seven negative thirteen point three million. See. L. A. you take thirteen point two million from three point five million in the budget. I guess I'm having trouble understanding you miss it well. If all the other line items going up and down the you got a plus over here. Who would you get them into the three point five million then you're sure you're showing a minus of thirteen point two. The rule where do you come up with the thirteen point two eight one is this supposed to be at. You all of budgeting process is that a plus even though it shows a minus. No I just believe that's the total amount coming out of community corrections and going to. The shared services well what would you take it for a. You didn't have the there's nothing shown. I believe the majority that was coming out of the community correction state appropriation. Welcome welcome with Osho actual expenses. We show a negative budget is that three point five million. I'm showing a thirteen point two eight one million coming out of. Community correction states and that's due to all those position transfers and operating expense transfers. so I am showing that on page three twenty six two shared services. That's where that came from yes Sir and it's just a this summer and then yes okay alright thank you Mr chairman. Yes Sir thank you With any other questions or comments. All right seeing none I what's the will of committee. Get a motion by Senator Elliot we got to sit a second Representative Wooten all those in favor signify by saying aye. All those opposed all right we've adopted the executive report moving on department Christians Arkansas Senate sentencing commission. Thank you Mr chair. Department of corrections Arkansas sentencing commissions appropriation can be found on page three hundred thirty four new manuals this is the Senate commission syncing commission state operations appropriation purpose of the commission is to establish and maintain sentencing guidelines and educate the criminal justice community and the public regarding sentencing laws and policy. Should ensure that sentencing is proportional to the seriousness of criminal offenses and takes into account the history of offenders and doing such. Composed of nine commissioners appointed by the governor to five year terms operations are funded through the miscellaneous agencies fund account. Appropriation request includes a seven thousand one hundred thirty four dollar transfer FOR operating expenses FOR IT often that the only differences salary and personal service matching adjustments. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request appropriation only in general revenue funding in the amount of three hundred ninety five thousand seven hundred forty four dollars for both years the biennium. Mister chairman as the sentencing commission I think Senator any questions or comments. With the motion and I'm not good enough to catch it all so we got a motion and we got a second. Okay not represent makes Senator Elliot of promotion and second with most motion for executive rack all those in favor signify by saying aye those opposed are adopted executive wrecked moving on to department corrections parole board. Thank you Mr chair from the corrections pro board appropriations on page three hundred thirty seven your manuals. Pro board is responsible for conducting pro hearings throughout the state making decisions on conditional release of inmates from correctional facilities. In all part and executive clemency applications. The board consists of seven full time members appointed by the governor would staggered seven year terms. Board is funded from general revenues to the miscellaneous eighty eight agencies fund account the preparation request include several transfers the shared services as follows transfer of two positions with salaries personal services matching reallocation fifty thousand five hundred dollars and operating expenses for IT and reallocation of sixty five thousand dollars a professional fees. It is here's a question over two point three million dollars in both use the biennium in a general revenue funding increase of one hundred eighteen thousand seven hundred fifty eight dollars fiscal year twenty two and twenty three the second recommendation provides for the agency request appropriation only and general revenue funding in the amount of two million two hundred ninety four thousand three hundred twenty seven dollars in fiscal year twenty two and two million two hundred ninety five thousand one hundred eighty seven dollars in fiscal year twenty three. Mister chairman as the parole board. All right thank certainly any question or comments. All right senior was with the committee. Got a. See that for all right we got a motion by Representative Beck a second by the all those in favor signify by saying aye all those opposed right with doctor executive rack moving on to our final item for the day and that's part of corrections riverside vocational technical school. You're recognized Sir you Mr chair front of corrections riverside vocational technical school preparation summary on page three hundred forty in your manuals side provides the cation training all qualified inmates incarcerated when the Arkansas division of correction and community correction first of the two list appropriations for riverside is the riverside Votic state operations appropriation with the exception of regular salaries and personal service matching continue level appropriation fiscal year twenty one authorized agency is requesting a general revenue funding increase of one hundred seventeen thousand dollars. For fiscal years twenty two and twenty three to support the agency appropriation request. Executive recommendation provide for the agency request appropriation only and general revenue funding in the amount of two point two million dollars in the fiscal year twenty two and. A just over two point two million dollars fiscal year twenty three. In the next preparation for riverside is the. The plumbing apprenticeship program appropriation is program consistent one faculty member that provides technical training in the area plumbing qualified person or persons incarcerated and community correction facilities continue level appropriations Fiske your twenty one authorize for both years the biennium seventy nine thousand thirty two dollars. Executive recommendation provides for the NC request in general directed at sorry general revenue funding in the amount of seventy one thousand six hundred. Seventy six dollars in fiscal year twenty two. Seventy one thousand eight hundred ten dollars in fiscal year twenty three and the chairman I conclude my presentation thank you Sir to twenty questions comments concerns. All right with motion for executive read by represent meets with a second by Senator Elliott all those in favor signify by saying aye those opposed gay with the doctors executive rack members do we have any other business secretary Preciado time today being thorough taking time range this questions and look for to get into that initial information back and and of the state personally proud of what you're doing. So. Can you support yes Sir thank you have members next week we have Wednesday seven thirty meeting for special language Tuesday's election day so we'll pick back up with budget on Wednesday because tuition officers audit A bill are in in Thursday will be the ACT department I with that seeing no other comments or business meetings during take for time today.