Revenue & Tax - Senate

Being ring. Because we are live streaming this comes out okay Senator Dismang you have House Bill ten forty nine for us today. Yes Sir thank you Mister chairman has you all remember we exempted unemployment benefits from state income taxation for the year twenty twenty in our calendar years twenty twenty and twenty twenty one one of the big reasons we did that was that there was not a method method or the if they didn't have the ability to allow for withholding so you know as these payments have grown because the federal government you're going to create a much larger tax burden you would have had in the past and without the withholding any of that tax the wood had been paid straight of the pockets of those that had received the benefits but one thing to keep in mind the feds do of do actually allow for withholding do with hold on state unemployment this would again just allow the state to establishing create withholding for unemployment I know that we may have a discussion at some other point about should unemployment be taxed in the future so you know we we did the twenty twenty to twenty twenty one because we felt like it was an immediate need and so that need to be addressed now but we can put this in place and then continue that conversation about unemployment. Skews me sorry I was who's in it no you're good trying to make sure that. The about the impact of members are the questions. Seeing no questions Mr hearing you on testify on this or. The if you would come to my from the. They want they want to hear it. Live streaming. Thank you Mr chair Paul hearing DFA. This is DFA agency legislation that we work with the department of workforce services yes there is no revenue impact of their I'd be happy if they would be happy to answer any questions about the bill and as noted on the bill there is a requirement for the US department of labor to to approve this legislation they have already done so in provided their authorization that this legislation meets their requirements. If they would be happy to answer any questions okay members of the question Mr. Senator he just one I guess for either it says if I may elect to do it. The yeah you cannot not required but they would have to essentially either check a box off for you know one way or the other that they're going to allow for withholding which then if they're gonna have withholding assuming they would you know notify us of how many dependents they have the filing status that's worth it is at at a flat rate okay that we work with the. Correct yes Mr thank you. Senator Johnson. Thank you measurement your next if. Mr gearing or or center Dismang Having never employment I don't know how you do you get some W. to quibble at the end of the year so would there be a a statement that an individual would take to their tax preparer in each it would show the amount with hail so that's from a paper work site we are already covered is that correct currently we are the Department workforce services issues the the equivalent of a ten ninety nine and to show within I got some of those for some individual I never heard of it my house but that's another story yes but but certainly there would be a a statement that reflects the amount of the benefits that you received in the amount with held if the if the benefit a recipient elected to withhold state income tax but long before the pandemic that was procedure there was a ten ninety nine equivalent that that went out for people that are on that okay thank you very much thank you Mr. Senator Teague. Check out of somebody asked what we're not doing federal to. Federals already included okay they are doing that is association counties okay now that's the next question that policy there must a month thank you thank you. A further other questions for. Reserve center Dismang or Mr grown. Thank you Senator Teague you're your ringer is off right. Your phone regular it is all. Thank you. Thank you appreciate that arise seeing this has no impact what's will of the committee. I moved to pass a motion to pass second by. Senator Johnson. Is a discussion on the motion we can all second any discussion on the motion if not all in favor say aye opposed no thank you. House Bill ten forty nine has passed. House Bill thirteen forty five a Representative works you would take a seat at the in the table and. Tell us your name. Thank you Mr chairman committee on Keith Brooks Representative district thirty one western Pulaski County instilling county appreciate the opportunity presents bill for you today. All right personally so we got bill H. B. thirteen forty five relatively simple legislation like a lot of them are it is simply amending the language within the law of when counties kit may collect property taxes currently counties open their books the first business day in March through October fifteenth this simply allows counties to collect taxes prior to that should they want to the rationale behind it is some counties are already doing this and allows them to cut property taxes and and follow those down to. Local municipalities and schools so they can get their funds earlier and so this just gives us permission within a lawful under that should they be able to take any questions on. Or other question for most Burch. Seeing none we have. Okay Senator Hickey so. So there's not any starting date whatsoever I mean so in other words I guess the they have to open their books of course is. So that's really going to be the starting date so they opened their books in January. Thank you do that but it would never be. Earlier than that yeah obviously could be earlier than January first right but if they have the ability to use as a for instance Pulaski County open there's on February the fourth and as of last week prior prior to the normal collection time date collected almost one point one million dollars in property taxes. Gates any if you got any feedback that was in a convert of controversial Tapley no Sir and no feedback from anyone opposition house house committee passed full voting in past full House never that never makes. For you just to those guys are crazy honest respectful server Johnson. Thank you Mr chairman quick note personal really just the first bill I've had the opportunity to vote for my friend and my niece state Representative represented Brooks so Keith welcome thank center and I my only real question was that this has been a practice anyway we're just kind of codifying what some counties are doing anyway so that's correct which is simply permissible language I think there were twelve counties for remember correctly they were already doing it because they had the processes in place to do so so this just allowing them a correction to the wall to universities and I have a motion to property I missed your loan to the motion. we have someone to speak for it is my favorite Tax Court. Miss Rebecca Dodd if you would please consisting of thank. If you would state your name for the record in. Rebecca dot Talbert nine Garland County tax collector and we have for years in our county always mailed out our bills over president's weekend there used to be something in the law that said that was a time that you could open the books and send amount sometime along the way that changed I don't know when that started in garland county but since I've been an office in ninety eight nineteen ninety eight that's when we have done. There sometime along the way it said March first was when to open the books and we're just if I changed my superintendents there in garland county and school districts would get were really upset with me. We've are dead you worry we collected about two and a half million dollars by doing that and let them go ahead and pay early. and it just says you can't since we have technology now it's doable and the schools go a long time without the early many our current tax dollars in the way they do their school finding with the splits in the early or the card many in the delinquent many. Thank you to do different things with that and I really want that current money as soon as they can get. Or the questions from the start Senator Hickey just one thing to keep going to the that is the is there something in the statute that says you cannot open your books before January first. Do you know the and here's my reason for asking what what I don't want to happen and I don't think it would but for somebody that says well we're going allows some of our constituents to take a larger deduction allowed them to pay their taxes early in the preceding tax year so that they could have you know deduction off their books and that's what I'm I wouldn't think that that would happen. But I just wondered if there was anything in the statute which said that you could not open those books before. Before Jan one in. Somebody else with the attorney or somebody or may have some answers to that but you would not have a tax roll to open before January one because the S. nine Benesch before the end okay currently currently the statue Senator Hickey says that you should shall be open the first business day in March right and so this is just operating procedures I agree I agree one hundred percent with the legislation I don't even want to think that I was making sure there's not any unintended consequences here that we had in you know that we hadn't thought through just a little bit and maybe your explanation with the assessor is is a good will so we get our information from the elements since prior year right I don't think they cut they cut it off until the end of December and then they have to balance their books before they can give it to us and usually it's the middle to end of January before we can even get that information from them. So to open it before January would be. Next to it I'm not gonna say it couldn't be done by some fluke but I would think it be impossible right and then the and like I say and then you know that you're not gonna have any collections either way in this it was just you know some rewrites somebody wanted to do that so. You've answered my question thank thank you. Are there other questions. Thank you for your testimony. Are you represent Berkshire you through review yes I will okay what's will of the committee Senator Johnson my motion do pass and Senator Hickey second zord discussion on the motion. Sing none all in favor say aye. Lows NO congratulations you passed bill thank Committee projection. Thank you for showing that. Okay. House Bill thirteen eighty three center aids. You know we in model making remember seeing the entity sponsor owned and. Senator H. if you would. Station of record and you're. Thank you bill thank you share land seeds Senate district seven this bill is a clean up bill that comes from the county assessor's association does a couple things number one it allows the sisters to be able to transmit. right electronic documents back and forth between the Fishel's via the software system they have so they don't have to send those hard copy in and helps reduce some waste and then also if it allows. Which makes sense many cases the county clerk's not involved in the assessment or the taxation process and on the statue right now it has the word county Clerk in there so the change that in several areas of this piece of code to say the prepare of the tax books so that whoever is responsible for that in the county is one that has the ability since there's no sense having the assessor for sign off on that I'm sorry the county Clerk sign off on that if they're not the ones that actually manage those those books in the process and that's the main thing it does there's one piece of code in there that's a chart that looks kind of wheeled the all right we'll be but all it's all this is doing this to change this is this changing signature line that that entire charts RT in code so to be happy to take any questions. Members of the question central Johnson. This is more of a technical question Centereach OB. Their long time as you know and I've never seen a bill that had a chart like. How does that go in code and are we properly. Putting something in statute that might be. Problematic as technology and the way things are done changes that we chisel this into the code well senator the appreciate the question that this. Take your charts already in the code and the so all this is doing is using the cop the signature line on that that's that's the that's the only change on that part of the growth in which already in there I guess we such struggle long many years with the I guess it's moot question thank you Sir Page four line eleven it says I under that particular charge the strike to the ward county Clerk on the signature Unisys prepare of tax but that's the only change to the chart okay thank you senator thank thank you. Or there other questions of. Of. Seven three thanks you have a. member for the association counties. OMG French would you like to come up and testify. Thank you. Senator Teague what your motion. Do pass center Johnson seconds during the discussion on the motion. Sitting on all of the First Lady I. Members just those server All right impact statement there's no revenue involved so. With that graduation troopers bill. Thank you Mr chair the committee members we have one other. Supposedly non controversial bill. It's always said that I've never seen one in schools this might be a first centered. Johnson if you would And you should have thirteen seventy seven own your. Three you have a copy of your bill or do you know what. Members you've got a all have a copy of it and an impact statement. Well you have a descended to you over the. Senator Johnson. Senator Blake Johnson. Thank you thank members the. This is house bill thirteen seventy seven and all it is is If instead of trading a vehicle or trailer or semi trailer you sell that trainer re Hickel it gives you sixty days rather than forty five years another fifteen days to offset that you know you're paying tax on the net so it just gives you that additional fifteen days or has no impact. Senator Mark Johnson. Question. Senator Blake I'm I need to get Mr during come help me answer this question going to ask you what I'm gonna have someone ask you first. With this supply if you sold your car to an insurance company for example that the insurance is the insurance company of the individual who hit you in total that your vehicle I have no idea that one from Stricker hi thank you during if you would please come. I like to move into this one. I guess I need to do my disclaimer this chairman is I have a conflict this actually is applied to me and I want to I want to hear it from the horse's mouth so. I just want is going on the street insurer also. If you would like to transfer record. Thank you Mr chair members of the committee Paul hearing DFA in this if you could Senator Johnson would you like to ask that question again did you hear the question miscarrying I did center okay and currently if the individual as a result of a total loss settlement sells their motor vehicle to their insurance company and satisfaction the claim there is no ability to claim that sale as a credit against the purchase of a future motor vehicle and the reason for that is is that currently the insurance carrier has an obligation to reimburse you for the cost of your sales tax on the vehicle that you're selling to the insurance company is a part of that total loss settlement and that is reflected in our sales tax rules as well so to do that what I suggest you would basically be you'd get paid twice on. That that would you would get a recovery from the insurance company and also savings from your sales tax on the purchase of your replacement the yeah is that Reimbursement based on the original amount you paid or on what the sales tax would be on that. Lesser amounts which is the math they give you when you your car's totaled I believe it is based upon the market value of the vehicle that which is based upon the total loss settlement that the insurance carriers would pay the the loss payee but there is an insurance department regulation that I am aware about be happy to pull that up and send a copy to you just to make sure that what I'm information providing is accurate I understand and I thank you for the answer and Senate Johnson I don't want to bug your bill down services unrelated but this might require other legislation the future to clean that up so thank you Mr hearing center Johnson Mr chairman. Two eagles you wanting to say something. Thank you. Are there are there other questions first Senator Blake Johnson or Mr Gehring. Senator car will. motion do pass and second any discussion of the motion saying none all in favor say aye opposed non graduations from church Johnson Senator Blake Johnson you have placed your bill and. All members that's all this is we have and we are adjourned we will have a meeting Monday Senator Mark Johnson is presenting his purchase metal build. Share all that that's Wednesday I'm sorry yeah okay. Okay. Seeing no other business where germs.