Senate Convenes

Documents to do so give us right now for another five minutes five minutes probably. Thank you. Well come to order. I'm secretary please call. Ballinger Beckham Bledsoe Caldwell Chesterfield Clark Davis Dismang Eads Elliott English Flippo flowers Garner Gilmore hammer Hendren Hester Hickey Hill Ingram Irvin Blake Johnson Mark Johnson Leding Pitsch Rapert Rice sample Stubblefield Sturch Sullivan Teague Tucker. Senator Hammer. Like to request leave for Senator Eads. Objection. Mr chairman Senate I would ask for your support. One second. Senate bills got the floor I would experience in the family of missing one will he never missed a session and so we would ask you to thank you for that okay everyone please rise including those in the gallery Senator Solomon is going to Friday. Did you hear what you said centers all. Yeah. Lord were thankful for every day and every breath we drop we know those are from you this is these are difficult times in our family here at the Senate and and the House the legislature and all government difficult decisions are difficult family times going on also we want to pray first for an and her family that she would know that she is in our thoughts and our prayers we pray that you would have mercy upon them bless them and give them comfort in these times lord also pray farm that we extend mercy to one another and grace to one another because they are difficult issues people losing their jobs businesses going close people who are very dissatisfied with one another for a lot of different reasons for help us to look to you for the answers and help us to look to you for the wisdom have mercy on us because it's only through you that we can grant mercy to others would love you and help us to show our love for one another by the way they are our love for you by the way that we love one another in Jesus name we pray amen. All. Thanks before we get going so if you've got your calendar. In front of you. Senator Ballinger will not pass over that today we'll take that off Senator Ballinger is bill as the seven thirty one it has emergency calls the reason I point that out. Is because if you go down to the House bills. H. B.. My glasses on nineteen seventy seven. Is the emergency clause only. In H. B. nineteen eighty two is the bill only without an emergency clause so. H. B. nineteen seventy seven emergency calls only twenty four vote. And H. B. nineteen eighty two bill only. Eight out any questions on that okay Senator Ballinger juror. Shepherd this piece of. Senate bill seven thirty one by Senator Ballinger to establish a right of privacy concerning. Eighteen vaccination status to establish a grant program from COVID nineteen relief funds or American rescue plan ACT twenty one finds and to declare an emergency service thank you well this bill this is the bill is initially that we've seen emailed around all that my intention wasn't to wasn't around at this session if we've got the the other bill passed because we get the mercy calls on that one my intention still is not to run it if we get the emergency clause so if the mercy because other bill passes I will withdraw this bill or let it die you know as we adjourned sine die will be out here I I don't I'm like I don't want to put any of my colleagues in tough spot. I want to go home I mean I do it but is not because I like it I really do like you guys for the most part. You look at some of the biggest names so you know that's but the reality is that people who are hurting back home we're scared we're gonna lose our job to develop skills by working in a in a plant for twenty years and got to the point where finally they've been able to buy their own house they've been able to have the kids you know grow up in high school and be able to buy them a used car. Rich but they're just doing their work in a little hospital right in their their community where they grew up. And I know a lot of people so you just go get another job what we'll let me tell you pretty soon is not going to be a possible we're about to get a mandate this job includes a hundred people or more that they can't there but do we really want to make them unemployable. The. The other bill it doesn't do everything like this is the bill that I like it has a right it's a right that is given to privacy to decide. What we share certain information or not. But that is in a local right right and all this does is the state of Arkansas one of the legitimate functions of state government is to go out and protect rights is why we work instituted what governments are instituted among men is to protect individual rights and one individual right is to decide I don't think it's a an employer there's a whole list in order to read of the questions that the employer should mask one of the questions of questions ask is have you had a vasectomy right well I also think it should be whether or not you have the vaccination that should be something that is private. Now I was willing to forgo what I thought was better policy in order to try to get something that would help my people today because while I knew this would pass and Karan this a week ago I knew what would pass what I also knew that he didn't help those people will be fired in November right to the people who will be fired in the next few weeks so it once again if we get the birds because I'm of the opinion hasn't changed we get the merger because of the bill then then that's great if we don't then that I want to do something the the difference is this bill because it protects right to privacy it's come January when this bill will become law because I have no expectation to get member to close on this one. When this bill becomes law in January when those people go back to their job and they apply for the job that because they got canned because I didn't wanna get a vaccination though the board best not even ask them about the vaccination status because if they do and they don't harm they retaliated against them and they'll be sued just like a lot of other rights we protect just like a lot of other things we're going to say there's a god given in a new bill right to decide to reveal that information for yourself. SO I want to go home I want to we we have a resolution to adjourn I want to be able to vote for that so bad I do. But you know we we have the ability now to offer some help right we can we can work through this process this could be within moments over to the the House they can have a have a House Public Health meeting I've seen them take a bill in the Senate straight over to the house the vote we can still go home today I want to go home today what consent will be sitting on the porch having coffee tomorrow with my only babies around and my wife around I have clients who want me to do work the baby needed to work I want to be able to work for them. But the truth is we did this job I did the job for one reason and that's right to by citizens. We have that opportunity now so I you know if we can do this I definitely won't be voting for the adjournment resolution today will be going on in unless we get the adopt the the emergency clause which I like at this point who knows. But I'm not expecting it anyway I I appreciate a good vote. I the wild Senator Hester. Yeah members I was able to visit with the I would say most to you but not everybody I think some of these Sir Hester if if you wanna make a motion make a motion come down here if you want to speak on it you can do that what's up repente no questions Senator is recognized members per for the purpose of a motion of spoken with many of you certainly not everybody that's some of these issues I don't think any of us are on the bubble on we know the score we heard the debate countless times with our constituents in committee inside my motion is immediate consideration. Non debatable motion requires twenty four votes all those in favor say aye. Close. The ayes have it. Please call the roll. Ballinger Beckham Bledsoe. Bledsoe. Caldwell. Chesterfield. Clark. Davis. DISMANG. DISMANG. Eads. Elliott. Could you repeat that day. Thank you senator. Flippo English. Flippo. Flowers. Garner. Gilmore hammer. Hendren. Hendren. Hester. Hickey Hill. Ingram. Irving. Blake Johnson. Mark Johnson. Leding. Pitsch. It. Rapert. Price. Sample. Stubblefield. Sturch. Sullivan. T.. T.. Tucker. Wallace. It is anybody else. Senator Teague aye aye anybody else cast up the ballot twenty two yeas eleven days Bills passwords Clause is not adopted trends. It to the house. Senator. Hammer. This is emergency clause. Only. Emergency calls only house bill nineteen seventy seven by representative Bryant and senator Hammer to provide employee exemptions from the federal mandates and employer mandates related to corona violent virus two thousand nineteen and declare an emergency. Senator Hammer. Thank you Mr president. I won't take long it's been well debated only give you two stories that were given to me this morning that's why I think that this is been a fight worth fighting even up to this point. Thank members of the Senate. Of some of which I'm a mess but I want to publicly thank the members of the Senate who without their assistance would not be to this point one of the action Missy Irvin in a champion to help get this three one of thank you senator Bob Ballinger one of thank Senator Scott Flippo Senator Alan Clark Senator Hill and all that a vote for this up to this point I want to say thank you for your consideration for your support through this process in a five let you off I apologize here are two things you want to share with you and then I will step to the side. I received this message this morning this is part of the reason why fighting so hard. I work for a hospital for over nineteen years been working from home for the last few years in the capacity that this person holds and obviously I'm. Outing this a little bit so as not to be too identifying of the person because who knows what would happen if her institution decided expedite her firing. She applied for religious exemption was denied appealed three other coworkers were granted the exception but no reason given for her now. This person will be terminated in thirty days if the emergency clause is not adopted she is the sole provider for her and her kids. Second one. This person is a registered nurse. This person work with COVID patients never caught it it shall she worked with the nurse who was vaccinated and caught fire it caught the COVID virus from her. Vaccinated people are not getting symptoms but are spreading it. That would leave you with this comment as far as why. We fought so hard to get this bill to this point and respectfully ask for twenty four votes so that it could have the Emergency Clause protects many people even the two that I just shared. I would remind you of a principle that they were ninety nine that were safely in the fold. We have helped some people stay in the fold by giving them an enormous amount of money including including the hospital facilities for which these people work. We've given them coverage does ninety nine are safely in the fold this is a fight for the one who's outside the fold not because they wanted to be outside the fold but because they've been pushed outside the fold your vote today can help protect people like that and with that I'd appreciate a good vote. Our. What purpose senator garner recommend to well as speaking in favor of the emergency clause okay hang up. Anyone speaking against you won't speak against. Sir Clark thank dollars I'll be very brief because I know we don't abated this into the ground I don't want to reply on the ground we don't hit over and over again. I'm not speaking to the policy of this bill itself. Because you all have your opinion and I talk to enough no people here know that your opinion is something you thanks ballot you have real concerns and I don't think you're a hypocrite or wrong or to feel those ways I understand. But this body is so as the House made decision on this policy are numerous times during the session lose policy fights the coming times I got things I get mad about not wanting to pass through here to does I think back to some are big fights before even got here about the Medicaid expansion and the battles that happen with this body whenever I was even here. But then I think about one step policy decisions being made by this body one way or the other do we is institution. Go forward in a way that best benefits people Arkansas to implement that policy go back to Medicaid station I know there's people here who hated that policy Joe had fights about it. But then whenever the DHS budget would get here you hold your nose and your vote for that not because you agree with Medicaid expansion because you understood that the DHS budget was bigger than just that policy I think about how many bills that I've lost the battle on that my colleagues come to say will you vote this emergency clause and although yes even though I disagree with the underlying policy. And so we face that decision today is should we put this emergency clause in place. And this is why I think we should is very simple. This policy is going to happen one way the other the decision you make is do you have that policy hit sooner rather than later. Because if we don't act today to do the mercy calls three months from now while most businesses or middle Christmas holidays and new year's. They will be hit with this policy months down the road is a probably be after the Biden administration is put out their policy on mandates. Will be a lot of decisions making happen having that timing conflicting things that happen in the next three months. Even if you disagree with this policy strongly which I think a lot of you do why not make the decision quicker so that if you think the court's going to find us on Constitutional they can actually go to court quicker why not put a policy in place that you know the business can have some kind of reference to moving forward and have that debate happened sooner. It's once again I'm not judging you on your policy decision when I'm judging you own is the ability to let's have this thing going to affect let's give that out there to people let's have the debate so that three months from down the road we don't have a new can of worms get open and that I think is good for the institution of the Senate I think it's good for this body I think it's a good policy moving forward so thank you so much colleagues I appreciate y'all's work last few days on this one way or the other and thanks let me say a few words I appreciate it because Senator Ballinger came up here and usually took my state of being that loud guy so I could be the calm got today. Thank you senator garner or Mrs through. What what what one second one second one second what purpose. Okay okay. Yeah I have to come down here but I do objection. Objection what senator mark Johnson is next on the list of people going to the well Senator Mark Johnson told me a minute ago he had been standing over there of what we're gonna go to senator mark Johnson if no one wants to speak against it. Well there's someone to make a motion before you over there in. He's already told me we you know. You still might. In your Senator Hester. Yes. In order to make a motion do I have to be at the well or at my desk many times there been senators that student actors chairs and made motions great. We. Okay just just. If you wanna go back video or somebody made a motion that might happen my general rule is you come down to the well we've talked about that for I believe we made reference to I believe Steven Steven I had this conversation about what is appropriate and what people can ask questions but if you're going to come down make argument about a motion you need to do it from the well. Nothing to do with what's going on here. What's going on here is I was already told that Senator Hester wanted to make a motion filed under right. I'm here I have a list of. So it has to do with where whether at or the director's chair I have the use of that as. Senator Rapert mothers yes. Hold me I think that just okay that there's no one to be punished for weather out there share or in the well I'm just doing that because it's more appropriate for the law I understand okay. If I may. I'm asking for clarification because twice I did from my chair and ask for a motion and I've been denied the opportunity to make a motion from my chair and I was not at the well when they're been senators stand up from their chairs and made motions all over and over and over again. So we did it is important for me to understand why I have been denied twice from my seat making a motion with other members in this chamber have had the opportunity to make motions from their seats so I need that occasion well I assure you that has nothing to do with you personally. The number one number two ninety one ninety nine point nine percent of motions that occur in this body. Are not contentious as to whether they can be done what happens is if someone stands up we'll start to make a motion. This year which is generally may. Unless they say it was. Could you please come to the well did. With the time when a senator goes I'm not moving to allow a motion that you generally never happens so that you it's more that have worked just have a lot of stuff happens because we let it happen and no one object but Steven I talked about what's appropriate and what's not appropriate under the rules and tradition and what we concluded is that as a general. If you're going to speak to a substantive issue whether it be a bill or motion you should be right there do people get away with things. Yes but it does mean again. Some senators what we have for others and I never say anything the speed of fifty people go follow me to give me the ticket you just asked and so it's not personal problems you're in you know better than that I would make it personal and punish you if you wanna make a motion in the German may even you know all of the but there's someone before your motion. Just as it relates to action and I appreciate that. Would you mind at this point for the rest for this particular bill what is the order that you have and how you want the members so what I have an act and I have to go through the for against what I have access to Johnson and then Senator Hester and I. You're standing over there Senator Rapert center or. But what I have but it's not particularly helpful. If people just hang it out intermingled with those who are speaking because then I'm just sort of guess who get all some people like to hang by the board and I have no intention of going to the well I just you know it's best if. The people lined up to speak but you know six people not law I'm sure they don't want to speak thank you. Okay Senator Rapert point personal privilege Hillary's now rise is that I need to make a disclosure that I feel it needs to be made to a property that okay we'll do that we'll take this okay so. In favor corrections okay and then all. We will go to Senator Hester but before anyone speaks again will have an opportunity here against but I haven't found anyone speaking against. Okay. Please go please thank you Mr president. I have my. Here in Webster dictionary here because I want to make clear that I make this word perfectly clear I've learned that my accent sometimes can get confused the the word I want to use you is oligarchy. Well I G. A. R. C. H. Y. in Webster's collegiate defines it is government by the few our government in which a small group exercises control especially for corrupt and selfish purposes. Or an organization under oligarchic control. We're here to discuss the Emergency Clause and. House bill nineteen seventy seven. We pass the bill. And presumably will become law I think it will I think most people think agree that it will become law. The oligarchy. In this state. Opposes this bill. Many of the people who are affected and while as a percentage of our population. It's it's pretty law which may be the one percent or one that that Senator Ballinger discussing. But if you're that one percent it's the biggest thing in your life. And. I know you all had to receive the emails and phone calls and texts that I have similar. But you can maybe you can steal yourself against either for political purposes or for. Purposes related to your district in people that supported you and this is not a clear cut and dry issue I told Senator Dismang yesterday that he did an eloquent defense of one on one hand we need to. Protect businesses and. Many of us in this room have that feeling we we want to stay out of the face of private business and keep government out of them and on the other hand. There's the individual. There's been some eloquent defenses Senator Stubblefield Sir Clark and others not to mention US senator Hammer of the individual rights this whole nation was founded on the basis of individual rights god given rights in the secure those rights. We stab wishes government with all its flaws it's still the best phone it's ever been in the history of this war. Now I had the way these things and I came up with the fact that individual freedom in this case. Will trump. The individual the freedom of the individual employer. We're talking about human beings here not corporate entities. I want you to consider. Just as a technical matter. That this bill is going to pass and if it passes that the emergency call Clause we could very well be looking at ninety days of chaos in this state and I don't even just mean the litigation and going back and forth which is gonna be litigation anyway we know that I think about everything we've done this extended session is going to be litigated thank you we thought that we're just moving forward with it but. Let's give at least for the ninety days let's clarify okay here's the law now you will go to court go to court we'll deal with but please don't give us ninety days of chaos followed by then and more and more and more litigation those of you that oppose the bill in its its substance I respect you but I sincerely ask that you approve the emergency clause let us move on and get through the things we have to get through and the courts get involved the courts get involved as we said when we debated the the. minus of all these issues it came down simply to. What's going to happen how we can get out here what's the what's your mind well the purchase a clause is not an afterthought much like it it was on the redistricting bills it's critical this state to move forward so those of you that voted. Against the bill only in the body the bill I ask you to please consider stopping the chaos getting this thing done let's go home and the lawyers want to get involved in god listen that's what they're there for but I want to appreciate I want to say how much I appreciate every single one of you and your passion because of my question my mind that all of you love and respect people of Arkansas we just have some differences of opinion on how to serve them but in this case let's just clear the decks get this thing moving on and let the courts do what they may or may not do thank you Mr president thank you and after I want to tell you Senator Irvin haven't talked to Steve about this. When senator Hammer Senator Hammer this is still your emergency clause right now I'm sorry this is this is the next so so if you have Senator Hester had not told me that he had a motion and he was just wanting to speak on the years taken precedent but because he's. About to make a motion yours his takes press that's why he gets to go if you were just going to speak about like everyone else your motion would take precedence over if no one if if the gentleman the proposal the bill had left a well. So. That. You're at disclosure takes top priority so please come down. Thank you members as this debate is involved I'll take a look and review some of my clients and my company you know I deal with some private equity interests based on the fact that some of the provisions of some of these bills I do not know whether some of my clients may or may not have interests that would be affected so out of an abundance of disclosure I'm going to make a written disclosure and will affect that with Steve cook to make sure it's on the record because I have no idea underlying some of those companies that have health care related interest that they may be effective and I want to be sure that I don't miss the opportunity to do that so thank you members. Senate is recognized for motion. Thank you governor members I make a motion for committee consideration you for the motion is not debatable choirs twenty four votes all those in favor say aye. Close the eyes have it. I'm secure please call. Ballinger hi. Beckham. Bledsoe. Caldwell. Chesterfield. Clark. Davis. DISMANG. Eads. Elliott. English. English. Flippo. Flowers. Flowers. Garner yes. Gilmore yes Hammer. Hendren. Hester Hickey Hello. England. Irving. Blake Johnson. Mark Johnson. Leding. Page. Raper. Right yes sample Stubblefield. Sturch Sullivan. T.. T.. Tucker. Wallace. Cass. Senator English no. Okay cast a ballot. To get the. Casts up the ballot twenty two days eleven days the emergency clause fails. Senator English. H. B. nineteen eighty two this is the bill. Only. No emergency clause house bill nineteen eighty two by representative speaks in Senator English concerning the definition of the four United States congressional districts of Arkansas and to declare an emergency. Senator English. Okay this is the companion bill to the bill we passed yesterday Senate bill seven forty three the redistricting maps hope for a good vote. Senator Hester you. You wish to be recognized for motion yes. It was the same bill we voted on yesterday I make a motion for committee consideration not debatable question before voters. This call. All those in favor say aye. Follows. I think I call that one. The eyes. Please call. Ballinger. Ballot. Beckham. Thank. Bledsoe. Caldwell. Chesterfield. Clark. Clark. Davis Dismang. Eads. Elliott. Elliott. English. What. Flowers. Flowers Garner. Gilmore our. Hammer. Hammer. Hendren. Hester Hickey. Health. Inger. Blake Johnson. I Mark Johnson. Leding. Yes. Raker I. Right. Sample. Stubblefield. Sturch. Sullivan. T.. Tucker. Wallace. You wish to vote or change their vote. Senator Hammer is hi. Let's go slow subreddit can get if the vote Senator Beckham aye aye. Sir Clark is on. Your body else over here make sure the board reflects your wishes anybody over here. Cast up the ballot twenty one days twelve days the bill is passed return to the House. You wish Senator Hickey. Thank you members of the I need to read yes Senate resolution thirty four by Senator Hickey to provide a recess of the General Assembly and to provide that the ninety third General Assembly will adjourn sine die no later than October fourteenth two thousand fourteen. Members I want to say this about this body that what I am proud of of course emotions went are been how this we all understand that but I will say this there's one thing that whenever you all put me as pro tem that I wanted to see is that we were more delivered the body we did that nobody here can say that we did not deliberate this stuff each and every way. And probably the best deal is even with everything going on. Everybody in here maintain their stability is at least from this body although those emotions are high we did that I want to say thank you what this resolution does is a this is what what allows us to adjourn sine die now we're not adjourning sine die as of today this will be It'll happen automatically on October fourteenth at twelve noon if we don't have to come back in the correct errors or consider vetoes in addition to that this is a Senate resolution in the house has one that's exactly identical it's of course except it says house instead of state Senate. What I'm committing to this body that if there's a veto on any of the bills. That have passed then I am going to call this body back in I've talked to Speaker Shepherd Speaker Shepherd has said he will be doing that from the house for today also so. If anybody wants to come back again if there's a veto. Our parts using let me just say it this way if there's a veto I'm going to want to come back in because that's what I said in more do animal call us back. Any questions Senator Ballinger and then Senator Hammer sur Ballinger. Thank you for the. We. Motion to or. And the House. Senate bill thirty one that is now transmitted to the house it would not have an opportunity to have a great. So you're basically if we pass this motion that the. That will die in the process as for the Senate no Sir if the house was to do that that would be the case in that may have been your questions you may have stated it that way but I want to be clear so everybody here and understands that of course everybody knows we can't control what the house does although I do have the conversation about the resolution I didn't have a conversation about what they were going to do with a bill that with that particular bill that passed out of here but require both houses do not have a reserve in order for us correct not sure yes Sir both houses would have to pass this let's just say for some reason that we passes today in the House does not pass it. Then in all actuality we could come back to more if we just if we wanted to with this body I've talked to the bureau about that to make sure just so that I would know how that would that would work so basically if if of both houses of do not pass it then it's of no consequence. The resolution to what we're about to there will be no ability for them to hear that. If they pass it before before those actions yes Sir that would be correct. Senator Hammer then senator garner I believe. Thank you Mr president Senator Hickey you never lied to me. We've had our iron sharpening iron mileage this section for which I appreciate. I heard you say minute ago I heard you say amended to go. That you would want to call us back into session. Will you commit to call us back into session if. The any if the bills are there are vetoed is that your commitment that if the bills are vetoed or we have to come back for technical correction it is my understanding that you and Speaker Shepherd will call us back in to deal with those matters is that correct Jimmy Hickey is going to cost is going to call us back in. Yes to your question only I have I have spoken to the Speaker and the Speaker has told me that he's going announce that also on the house floor today. All I can truthfully Committee to courses me and the and of course with my dealings with the Speaker Shepherd his credibility and character is a it is excellent and great so that's so we yes to your question as far as the Senate's concerned and he has told me he's going to do that are I would Mr president I'd like to direct this question to Senator Hickey but if he's not able to answer I'd like your stage to render a clarification I please mass. Offered in his in his ability to answer thank you so. So we have Senate Senate bill seven thirty nine and we have House Bill eighteen seventy seven or I'm sorry Senate bill seven thirty nine is on the governor's desk if he vetoes that and it is brought back up for consideration to override the veto that's the only thing we would be able to discuss is overriding the veto not opening it back up for discussion about the emergency clause would you clarify that please one hundred percent correct I'm glad you said that that that is what. And this is the standard resolution that we would use is for concern it's all and it's on the second page starts online thirteen of. For considering vetoes. And correcting errors and oversights or the adjournment. Which the adjournment will be automatic if there are no vetoes. Or these corrections that are technical in nature sometime that you know that we have to come back for our thank you. Thanks because it's important to do this this point H. B. nineteen seventy seven by which the agency calls failed. The bill still will be transmitted we will transmit the bill back to the house even though the Emergency Clause they don't have a question about that the other thing I want to. Mention this is a resolution but it's really a motion it's a motion to recess put in written form so just want to clarify that. Oh sorry senator question. Thank you Mr chairman so you know after we've had this debate about these resolutions and what you should look like I kind of did more analysis of this and the part that is troubling to me from my reading of it is is that this requires a joint proclamation of both you and the Speaker of the house now I'm not putting any aspirational Speaker Shepherd himself but we do this in one of my bills over to the house and due to his ruling said that that was not allowed to be on the call it would be up for a vote so there has been a president set where the Senate has acted in which capacity and then been overruled by the Speaker of the house but it came to that so that we deem reasonable so what I'm worried is in this is an speakership or character but a lot can happen in a week by this resolution if he'd the House clans to have that veto override by this resolution or pass it we could not be to override that veto that. You're going to be a little more clear to me on that last part I heard all of this is that is that just it just a question if you don't mind Sir if the Speaker of the house declines to reconvene then the General Assembly under this resolution cannot reconvene override a veto even if the Senator Hickey himself wants to do that that would be correct you're you're you're going to have to take the that the Speaker of the house that was elected by the majority of that body. That he's going to do what he says of course if the state seven Senate floor as I would expect you all to and would want you to if I didn't come back down here remove me. Okay is there any way we could clarify that just allow the Senate to call itself back in as kind of a separate or the General Assembly without you being minimal that we still have to allow the House. No. Okay. Senator. Senate apparently Senator Hickey satisfied your. Questions Senator Hammer may I ask another one well I. In the queue we're not rational but. And and reasons of common. Senator Hammer thank you your job thank you Senator Hickey I want to say this issue in public if I choose not to vote for this it's not going to be because I think that you would do anything other than what you committed to because in my opinion you're a man of integrity you play hardball you play by the rules but I just want you to know that as the debate continues whatever decision I made if I vote against it I'm personally publicly telling you it's not because I question your integrity or that you would do what you said you would do. Let me just say this showing price obviously not a question we do that a lot this is a non debatable motion really at its core so of. Just get the questions and then we'll have a vote Senator Johnson. Thank you Mr president. Senator Hickey I've talked to privately about the potential session to consider tax legislation special session I'm having a little bit harder. All Mr President I'm have a little bit of a hard time hearing. Is this a little bit better aw well everybody what you hear it probably lot better. Sir you senator of. United private conversation about the tax potential tax special session yes Sir and I am asking and I know you don't have complete control that the governor Mike that the call that but would it be something where if he should do so if we could come in on sign a die and signed it done immediately reconvene the session therefore cut out a lot of extraneous travel and in dates like that is that something we could do is it's getting late in the year something that we could do but I do not anticipate that and that's why this resolution is written this way this resolution is written that if those vetoes do not happen if those corrections are not there that we will sign a dye it will sign a die on that date that's why it's written that way so there's no consequence as far as I was coming back and then doing that because you all will not be coming back I will be coming back. You know I'm not certain I will be down here but we don't we don't have to do that thank you Sir yes Sir Mr. This is what we do that the last one and a long time and we always say we're going to sign we're going to come back in and we'll have details on not have details etcetera etcetera and deal with the corrections or something unusual about this one. The Speaker. Well if you look if everybody would look on page two and again I will be down here out soon but it says on page two it says. Line fifteen adjourned the regular session of the ninety third General Assembly at any time before twelve noon October fourteenth twenty twenty if they determine it is not necessary to reconvene so that would be myself and the Speaker if we determined that it was not necessary to reconvene based upon what's in line thirteen and fourteen what we're discussing the vetoes in the corrections if those have not occurred because the governor has five days to veto excluding Sundays everybody needs to remember that excluding Sundays so if that time has passed our bureau is said there's nothing of most important as far as errors that may have happened in some of these bills we know we called the one with the redistricting which we've already corrected if there's something that you know unless there was something like that then we will not have to come back the body will not have to come. Thank. Thank you Mr president Senator Hickey I'm a bit confused the the. Kind of the background noise is all about Senate bill seven thirty one that we just voted on under the impression when we have sessions that are three days the Senate and the house could not take up the same billing vote on the same day on the same day a committee came but not on the same business that is so even without your resolution or even with your resolution is not the Senate bill seven thirty one could even be voted on by the House stay is that correct. Those are the same way with Senator Garner I heard all the first of what is the direct question the direct question is Senate bill seven thirty one was voted on by the Senate today will be no hard Senate bill seven thirty one one that's right that's what I'm saying is background noise going on Senate bill seven thirty one was voted on by this body today it was sent to the house the house vote on it in committee today but the house is it body cannot vote on the floor that same day on the same day analysts say suspend the rules to do so okay yes thank you but again when they passed when they passed the resolution. Again they can suspend the rules to do that. The. You referred you referred senate Star City constitutional. I thought. All the Senate and house bill same day in the country nice reference any other questions okay this is so resolution but it reflects non debatable motions we can it is very by the really really feels like they need to say someone else. Okay okay Sir ready to decide I appreciate a good vote. All those of favour say aye. This. All those of favour say aye. Closed. That is how that. Majority of those voting not eighteen majority of those voting I saw five answer please call. Ballinger. Beckham. Bledsoe. Caldwell. Chesterfield. Clark. Davis. DISMANG. Eads. Elliott. English. Flippo. Flowers. Flowers Garner. Gilmore. Hammer. Hendren. Hester. Hester. Hickey aye. Health. Ingram. Irving. Irving. Blake Johnson. Blake Johnson. Mark Johnson. Leding. Page. Yes. Two. Senator Pitsch. Right. Right. Sample. Stubblefield. Sturch. Sullivan. T.. Tucker. Wallace. I to vote or change their vote Senator Pitsch is no. Davis is no. Anyone else. Cast up the ballot. Thirteen the eighties eighteen days of the resolution fails. Any announcmenet. Yeah any announcements. Because. Okay members of the body the body voted to stay here I would expected nobody to leave we baby were calling the roll every time that we come in just so that the public knows that the everybody's here due to do this business that you are getting paid for I want to stay here so with that being said it'll be a to call the chair Mr bring of the well and I will be sending text out so nobody will miss it with all the emails that you're getting so it will come through text possibly and emails but if everybody keep your phone close. Centers for a. The House adjourned all of. We'll be here tomorrow. Later today the House. The issue would be the end. If if the house if the house runs that resolution and passed it that this body did not do. At that point right there we would have to come back in and I want to ask for you to expunge the vote by which the resolution failed which would require twenty four. And then at that point we would have to vote again. And if it fails again. We'll just be here all right thank you. Yeah the hearing center. No. If you don't. Just clarification. Senator Hickey does not have funds he could follow the resolution is make a motion not in writing in the form of resolution as is as is in the rules and is and as is custom any other. Senator John. Based on what you just said would such a motion as opposed to the resolution it Senator Hickey just presented fail only require a majority to pass only required majority of those present and voting the German is non debatable requires a majority vote of those voting correct so just like the resolutions that are. K. anybody else any announcements. Sorry service recognize anybody wish to be recognized. When recess subject culture. You. Here we are. Senate will call. Two relative for. Senator Hickey is recognized all right members of a yes I want everybody back down here because I want everybody to know exactly. What the plan is I want you to ask your questions today but here's the plan after after we decided not to pass the resolution I went down and talked to the Speaker and we had a long conversation and what in you all may have already seen if he was going back and back into session he decided that he would not try to run the resolution itself that would have created issues you know if if they are passed it and we had in that we don't want to go down so that was not run so that was that that was where we were at with it also I don't remember the numbers but Senator Ballinger your bill could you tell me those numbers. Seven thirty one as you know they went back into session or some of you know they went back into session thank a sign that to the Committee. It's my understanding from talking to Senator Rice a minute ago that I think that that committee meeting is at three o'clock today that committee is at three o'clock today so if that passes out or if it doesn't pass out that's the process within that committee. The house is going to go in at nine o'clock tomorrow morning so if that bills passed out that bill will be heard on the floor. Of the House. We are looking to come in at ten o'clock. I'm having another resolution. The same as the one this morning with the difference that we're going to move the dates. So we're everything's gonna be bump today so that everything will still be in place. In regards to the corrections in the vetoes I will give you the same guarantee it. Tomorrow that I give you today that if any of those bills or are vetoed that. I'm going to call us back again I'll talk to the Speaker again to make a hundred percent sure that he's going to make that statement from the floor also so is there any questions on where we're at with any of this process. Senator Garvin senator Elliots I appreciate to have this meeting for the meeting that will have more else I really like that and I mean that sincerely I think we need to make it out there so tomorrow committee and and and as soon Senator Ballinger B. R. is her or passes afternoon or just kind of waiting to see if they pass a bill that and then we'll do this resolution after that or how the process that will that I made that decision about us coming in later than the House because here's the thing whether or not they passed that bill on the floor or do not pass that bill on the floor the process is totally complete at that time the house of course would would ask for the the Speaker that that resolution to adjourn sine die that we're talking about he would also do that. I would hope or assume that since the process is taking place that the membership down there will vote to pass it out and then I'll be asking you all to do the same. Thank you Sir thank you Sir. Thank you. And in the event that there is there are vetoes of the reason the tail. Are you looking to call us back on the fourteenth and the resolution image immediately or will that be will be called back and immediately According to when the veto is is is the issue if there is one that is. The day's whatever that we put on the resolution and of course I don't have the old one in front of me we're gonna support it'll be the eight. And that was a was a smoke was one this morning the seventeenth the what. It was a seven fourteen just with a it'll be the eighth in the fifteenth we're still observing that kind of time line is what I'm trying to get clear that's that yes ma'am because those vetoes and I know I said this this morning that will give us time to come back and it would be by anticipation that we would. Basically come back immediately okay thank you. And center just give clarification. Obviously I don't I don't see a draft here you would introduce this tomorrow no it'll be filed today the file to the bureau's working on it will get a copy of it okay you're just moving the two dates to the rights one day on the calendar gotcha. Okay. Senate. This I'm not exactly sure if this is. Process to you for questions you. But it resides in that Senate bill seven thirty nine Senator Hammer is bill without an emergency clauses in the governor's office for final signature my correct in that. And so if we come back tomorrow at seven thirty one which is a different bill. Some of us of RT vo well all of us have voted on once. If they don't get an emergency clause down there. In past what we passed without an emergency clause will that be reconsidered here to do emergency clause and does have a chance to go back there for another vote on emergency clause. Hammer you follow my question is that I. Procedural question that meets. The on site and that's. And he say and what I was thinking but I want to make. The the bill that we sent does not have an emergency clause the mercy calls did not pass out there voting on it without an emergency clause. Okay so they can't they don't have a bill to do an emergency clause either on seven thirty one. I guess my point is these bills for those of us that are yes that emergency clause clearly has passion behind it. And if we don't have any option for emergency clause tomorrow we would have what's the point I mean they'll pass it and then we go to resolution to close and I guess skews me center. From my standpoint. I don't know how anybody here could say that the process is not totally played out and that's what we gotta do at some point you all. Jimmy Hickey is lost I want to hear any of these bills from the first day I understand that the I resigned myself to that at some point the process of this institution the way we operate has has worked it is the way it is there's winners losers. That's the way it is so I will ask you all the more to do the adjournment for us to leave. Well. Quick follow up and as an example and see if you can weigh in on that we've had that happen on Senator hammers bill we voted without emergency clause Senate down there. I assume they sent separate me just answer questions. Of course the mercy calls on but we can't be voted on the same day it has to go through the process single units hit me go means we can't resolve this tomorrow if it goes down there gets an amount under that hypothetical. That's correct. That was. That could even be done process once and again that's what I'm here. Okay senator Hammer then Senator Ballenger Senator Hammer direct questions you Mr president or to the stat Senate bill seven thirty nine I understand as been enrolled and sent to the governor is that correct. Yes Sir what is the status of a house bill nineteen seventy seven where where is it and who is in control of it it's been transmitted to the house so they have their bill back. So nineteen seventy seven has been sent back to the house and it is in their control to do with it and they could send it back here if they want to yes Sir thank you. I think that. So. So it has been set yeah. They had already passed out. It's called the office the the man is gonna be my correct. Which. Which will determine. nineteen seventy seven is courting to the computer made it is on in around the governor's office thank you. The correct. Okay everybody understand that skews me Smith said about the law is going to. The point of clarification from. Possible like I don't have any control over the house public health committee could do they could amended and if that happens Bills. But from my standpoint I'm not that will be hostile Amendment from my standpoint I the bill is what it is we we should be done one way or another. If it died in committee this afternoon or tomorrow one way or another our business should be completed by ten o'clock tomorrow. Thank you okay any other questions. Okay you can do more ten AM tomorrow. And. Anybody have any announcements realign your district yes and here's the thing members. We need as many many of you ought to be here we need as many of you ought to be here as possible I'm already getting some members that are saying that they'd like to do pairs and this is what I'm going to ask you for a minute this body has always used that. As a way to accommodate other members you will need that at some point so what I'm going to ask you. Is that you honor that we've done that on this so if a member ask you to be a bill payer because they've got. Some business thing that they had already planned to as we have been here longer than we should and they're not gonna be here I'd ask that you honor that thank you. Okay. Any other announcements anyone wish to speak. So we're gonna German told Martin and. Gentle ten AM tomorrow subject to the clearing of the.