Revenue & Tax - Senate

You. again as we go room. Call a call this meeting of the Senate Revenue and Tax Committee together. do we have a House member here to present. Senator Dismang you can present that bill. More. Bills. Senate displaying your heard president house bill one oh one thank committee members Mr chairman this bill that we heard yesterday in committee and also on the floor today I'm assuming on one one zero zero one. in with that I'd be happy to take any questions. One of the questions for the senator. Senator. Mr chairman yes. Senator one last opportunity would you like to add law enforcement to this bill Nassar you don't want to. For testimony that we had yesterday when it was and I've talked law enforcement across the state and they had no idea that we would be supplementing federal law enforcement officers with that bill I think a in in talking to a number of different folks they felt as though I if there was a going to be you know for instance amount of money is set aside that they'd obviously like to have a fewer number people bidding for anything from that so there was a larger benefit per person and so a lot of that information came out yesterday's testimony absolutely not I think there's a better way than one that will be able to work through soon your title to your opinion but asked that I was trying to lighten the mood a little bit for you senator but actually that bill was in the session in the spring. It was vetted and looked at by all of the quorum court all the city council's all the sociais Haitians and for that matter we were advised we had to include them. It may be a surprise to you but as of press no one else I talked to everybody that had signed on as a co sponsor the bill and then voted yesterday on Germaneness of the bill I found one member at all the members that I contacted that were aware that it was going to provide a supplemental payment to federal law enforcement well that's what we read legislation but it was not a surprise neither discussions but that's fine thank you senator. On are there any other questions. You have a motion. Okay. I'm sure. Your question. what we have Some people here to talk speak again for and against Dan Whitfield If you will. All. Mr would feel if you state your name and who you're representing and you're speaking against the bill is that correct yes Sir my name is Dan Whitfield I'm from Bella Vista Arkansas bank account if you wish or relieve your hat I've been on the road for five days sleeping in the car I do apologize heirs mass. All right I'm I'm here representing the R. Kansans of that are working class that will be benefiting from this bill as much as the other Arkansans that will be. So I'm here to speak against house bill one zero zero one and I'll begin with the facts I'm not a tax account I'm sure a lot of people is stable are not as well maybe if you but. Firstly I'm here to represent our Kansans that are with the working class will be benefiting from the bill as much as Arkansans that will be seventy percent of the tax cuts will be going to the wealthiest twenty percent of our Kansans and those over you know this dental go to the people making over sixty thousand per year where the average household income in Arkansas is only forty thousand nine hundred fifty two. Those making under twenty two thousand dollars a year will see no benefit which is thirty percent of all Arkansans one in three our Kansans are disabled and thirty percent of those are actually living underneath the poverty line. And we're looking to use this money to cut taxes for the wealthiest our Kansans while ignoring your Kansans that really need help where twenty five percent of the children in our state go to bed with a hungry stomach where we could end hunger in our entire state for every single person for it sounds like a lot but only two hundred forty million dollars. Arkansas Arkansas a rings forty two an education forty two of fifty forty nine and healthcare forty three in infrastructure and you know we thank god every day here in Arkansas for the four point nine billion dollars that Senate Democrats just brought in an infrastructure bill but it's still not enough to really help those people that need this help the most. So I'll end with this I just implore you all to take into consideration the people that are going to be help from these tax cuts to me personally I will be I'm sure you all will be but there are a lot of people who can't be here today to represent themselves that architect any benefit at all from these tax cuts when these are the really in the near poor state in the country we really need to be focused on those people and help them make sure that they're able to get by every day rather than making sure that everyone who's able to get by every day just fine can get by a little bit easier. Thanks for the questions for the witness. Seeing thank you. Thank you. Next procuring you've got a financial impact force. Thank you Mr chairman of the committee Paul guarantee if a stance any questions regarding the fiscal impact statement it is identical to the revenue impact that we issued for Senate bill one as originally filed or other questions from Mr Gehring. Senator. Report that thank you Mr hearing I know that you guys were working on an updated list I think the last time we had a full updated list was the actual task force that had that list so I don't know if that's is there any idea when it may not be this session but it sure be nice that will have some idea of a list of every single one of those tax credits and what the value is yes Sir Senator Rapert we certainly have been working on it since your request came through earlier this week tax credits within excise tax In that but because of the short turnaround unfortunately we weren't able to have it ready for the committee this afternoon or wish I thought to ask even sooner and the terms of the you're here the expert. Good opportunity asked make sure I'm clear on this do we have any other Tax credit. Four in the end I don't want to use a wrong word which we hear that some of some of it operates as a rebate we have anything that is refundable at all in the code is that all non refundable tax credit I'm not aware of a refundable tax credit Sir because that's a that's a point and that's the point that we even tried in the spring to say well maybe we could amend what we were trying to do to a non refundable that didn't work in the spring either but thank you for clarifying yes Sir. Are there other questions restaurant. Saying no thanks Sir I can share. Center this money ready close for your bill. Senator Johnson. All I see so. that insulin. All over the all conference which covered I'm sorry out. I miss read that and thought it was forgiving. Because it was for. All. Mr Calvert you're speaking for the bill. In order to yourself and. What is Paul Calvert and I thank you for condescension ultra make the short. The taxpayer I really don't like it when government takes my money on threat of men with guns coming to lock me in a cage I don't comply however there is something that burns me up even more than government taking my money. It bothers me even more when government spends those tax dollars when government spends my money that often results in a loss of freedom for good hard working people so I like the idea of having less money stolen from me but I'm even more excited the government will be spending fewer dollars in ways that will almost certainly violate my rights and the rights of my friends and neighbors that's all I have thank you Sir the question should merge Calvert. Singer thank you I'm sorry that I missed rated. Because you you're normally here don't speak for the balance of. Okay now we have a a the motion from centers Johnson is due process second. Center right for. In the discussion on the motion swing none all in favor say aye opposed no. what we have next House bill ten oh six. Members this strikes us amount language related to the initial appointments to the commission it conflicted with another section on and on detailing out how to make the appointment Celeste reckon that it brings uniformity that bill. For the question center. Who would have. What. Okay no one will speak on. Do we do we have a motion. The motion to press second. Center Johnson. In discussion on the motion saying none all in favor say aye opposed no. Center this morning are you going back over to. Hello Sir what level. I just assumed you were close and she walked over and said there about me. Members this bill we heard yesterday in relation to the steel project in the recycling tax tax credits and setting up that new category that will qualify for those credits. Are the question for the center center Johnson. Since. Sir it is mine I've had some people ask me about. Recycling credit period and not just the steel industry whatever just to clarify for those that hardware Arkansas has a recycling equipment tax credit they can be used by other types of business animals and this wouldn't We'll take all recyclers in a different manner of course Recycles some municipal waste products and separate the plastic and the Senate and they have a Quitman that process is that and it's eligible for the credit I'm just warning the public to know that that this is not just about steel mills this is about people that have. Proper equipment purchased for recycling and and offers a tax credit thank you thank you Sir thank you Mister. Saying no other questions. I have a motion to pass do I have a second second by Senator Colwell. Discussion on the motion. Hearing none all in favor say aye. Lows NO members we are a journey.