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April 8, 2025 ·Upon Adjournment of House ·Room 149 ·2:28:53
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Bills discussed (62)

Bill Title Sponsor Status
HB1978 · 6 mentions in transcript, agenda, chapter
Matched: “recognized to go to the end of the table, present House Bill 1978.”
TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL JUDGESHIP TO THE SEVENTEENTH DISTRICT OF THE STATE DISTRICT COURT SYSTEM. Gazaway Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1057 · 4 mentions in agenda, transcript, chapter
Matched: “…HE LAW CONCERNING COST SHARING FOR DISTRICT COURT EXPENSES. HB1057 R. Scott TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING POSSESSION OF A FIREAR…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING POSSESSION OF A FIREARM BY CERTAIN PERSONS; AND TO PERMIT … R. Scott Richardson Recommended for study in the Interim by the …
HB1178 Act 993 · 4 mentions in agenda, transcript, chapter
Matched: “…COMMITTED CRIMES WHEN THEY WERE UNDER THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN. HB1178 R. Scott TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE CONTRACTING OF A M…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE CONTRACTING OF A MUNICIPAL ATTORNEY; TO AMEND THE LAW … R. Scott Richardson Notification that HB1178 is now Act 993
HB1033 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…NSTITUTION EMPLOYEE. DEFERRED BILLS Number Sponsor Subtitle HB1033 McCullough TO CREATE THE "ARKANSAS RED FLAG LAW"; AND TO CR…”
TO CREATE THE "ARKANSAS RED FLAG LAW"; AND TO CREATE AN EXTREME RISK PROTECTION ORDER … McCullough Recommended for study in the Interim by the …
HB1136 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…RIOUS Richardson MEDIA IN THE COURSE OF ELECTION CAMPAIGNS. HB1136 Achor TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE CRIMINAL RECORD SEALING AC…”
TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE CRIMINAL RECORD SEALING ACT OF 2013; AND TO PROHIBIT A COURT … Achor Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1141 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…AN EXTREME RISK PROTECTION ORDER AND WARRANT. Page 3 of 5 HB1141 R. Scott TO CREATE CRIMINAL OFFENSES RELATED TO DECEPTIVE A…”
TO CREATE CRIMINAL OFFENSES RELATED TO DECEPTIVE AND INJURIOUS MEDIA IN THE COURSE OF ELECTION … R. Scott Richardson Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1306 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1306 Furman CONCERNING CIVIL IMMUNITY FOR A CHURCH OR OTHER PLAC…”
CONCERNING CIVIL IMMUNITY FOR A CHURCH OR OTHER PLACE OF WORSHIP; AND TO PROVIDE CIVIL … Furman WITHDRAWN BY AUTHOR
HB1430 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…ON WHEN A PERSON IS SUBJECT TO AN ACTIVE WARRANT OF ARREST. HB1430 K. Moore TO AMEND THE DEFINITIONS UNDER THE DOMESTIC ABUSE…”
TO AMEND THE DEFINITIONS UNDER THE DOMESTIC ABUSE ACT OF 1991. K. Moore Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1431 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…AMEND THE DEFINITIONS UNDER THE DOMESTIC ABUSE ACT OF 1991. HB1431 K. Moore TO AMEND THE DEFINITIONS UNDER THE DOMESTIC ABUSE…”
TO AMEND THE DEFINITIONS UNDER THE DOMESTIC ABUSE ACT OF 1991; AND TO PROHIBIT THE … K. Moore Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1473 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…SE OF HARBORING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. HB1473 Pilkington TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING HEALTH-RELATED CASH…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING HEALTH-RELATED CASH DISCOUNT CARDS. Pilkington Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1481 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1481 Long TO CREATE THE ANTI-ATF COMMANDEERING ACT; AND TO PROHI…”
TO CREATE THE ANTI-ATF COMMANDEERING ACT; AND TO PROHIBIT THE PROVISION OF MATERIAL AID AND … Long Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1535 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1535 Duffield TO PROVIDE AN ENHANCED SENTENCE FOR PERSONS CONVIC…”
TO PROVIDE AN ENHANCED SENTENCE FOR PERSONS CONVICTED OF RAPE OF A CHILD TWELVE YEARS … Duffield Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1553 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1553 Ray TO REPEAL THE PROHIBITION AGAINST THE SALE AND DISTRIBU…”
TO REPEAL THE PROHIBITION AGAINST THE SALE AND DISTRIBUTION OF NOVELTY LIGHTERS. Ray Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1655 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…TION AGAINST THE SALE AND DISTRIBUTION OF NOVELTY LIGHTERS. HB1655 Long TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF HUMAN SMUGGLING; TO CREATE TH…”
TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF HUMAN SMUGGLING; AND TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF HARBORING ILLEGAL … Long Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1663 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…CERTAIN PROPERTY USE RESTRICTIONS BY GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES. HB1663 K. Brown TO PROHIBIT AN AWARD OF ALIMONY OR TERMINATE ALIMO…”
TO PROHIBIT AN AWARD OF ALIMONY OR TERMINATE ALIMONY FOR A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN … K. Brown Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1664 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1664 K. Brown TO AMEND "QUINCY'S LAW" CONCERNING PHYSICAL EXAMS…”
TO AMEND "QUINCY'S LAW" CONCERNING PHYSICAL EXAMS AND OTHER TESTING IN AN INVESTIGATION INVOLVING ALLEGED … K. Brown Recommended for study in the Interim by the …
HB1676 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1676 Womack TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING GARNISHMENT AGAINST THE…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING GARNISHMENT AGAINST THE STATE OR A SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE; … Womack Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1678 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…DER OF PROTECTION AVAILABLE TO A VICTIM OF VIDEO VOYEURISM. HB1678 Long TO AMEND THE ABORTION-INDUCING DRUGS SAFETY ACT TO INC…”
TO AMEND THE ABORTION-INDUCING DRUGS SAFETY ACT TO INCREASE THE CRIMINAL PENALTIES AND CLARIFY THE … Long Recommended for study in the Interim by the …
HB1754 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1754 Gonzales TO CREATE THE PRIVATE PROPERTY PROTECTION ACT; AND…”
TO CREATE THE PRIVATE PROPERTY PROTECTION ACT; AND TO PROHIBIT CERTAIN PROPERTY USE RESTRICTIONS BY … Gonzales Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1765 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1765 Underwood TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING DOMESTIC BATTERING IN…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING DOMESTIC BATTERING IN THE THIRD DEGREE; AND TO AMEND THE … Underwood Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1823 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…HE LAW CONCERNING THE STATE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE FUND. HB1823 Duffield TO ESTABLISH THE DISRUPT EXPLICIT FORGED IMAGES AN…”
TO ESTABLISH THE DISRUPT EXPLICIT FORGED IMAGES AND NONCONSENSUAL EDITS ACT OF 2025; AND TO … Duffield Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1885 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1885 Barnett CONCERNING LAW ENFORCEMENT; AND TO REQUIRE A LAW EN…”
CONCERNING LAW ENFORCEMENT; AND TO REQUIRE A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER INVOLVED IN A DEADLY USE … Barnett Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1947 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…WHEN THE VICTIM WOULD BE THE PAYOR OF ALIMONY. Page 4 of 5 HB1947 Clowney TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE OFFENSE OF POSSESSI…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE OFFENSE OF POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA. Clowney Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1948 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…NCIDENT TO BE PLACED ON TEMPORARY LEAVE AND ATTEND THERAPY. HB1948 Joey Carr TO AMEND THE CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH THE OFFENSE O…”
TO AMEND THE CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH THE OFFENSE OF NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE IS COMMITTED; AND TO … Joey Carr Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
HB1953 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1953 Torres TO PROVIDE FOR A SURCHARGE TO BE ASSESSED ON INMATE…”
TO PROVIDE FOR A SURCHARGE TO BE ASSESSED ON INMATE PHONE CALLS TO OFFSET THE … Torres Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SB277 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…FICIENCIES AND QUALITY IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES. SB277 J. Bryant TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE CRIMINAL RECORD SEALIN…”
TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE CRIMINAL RECORD SEALING ACT OF 2013; AND TO PERMIT THE FILING … J. Bryant Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SB302 Act 659 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…Howard M. Beaty, Jr. REGULAR AGENDA Number Sponsor Subtitle SB302 Gilmore TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF GIFT CARD FRAUD;…”
TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF GIFT CARD FRAUD; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. Gilmore Notification that SB302 is now Act 659
SB314 Act 661 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB314 Irvin TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING SEXUAL SOLICITATION; AND…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING SEXUAL SOLICITATION; AND TO AMEND THE PENALTIES FOR THE OFFENSE … Irvin Notification that SB314 is now Act 661
SB321 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB321 J. Bryant TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE STATE ADMINISTRAT…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE STATE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE FUND. J. Bryant Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SB325 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB325 A. Clark TO AMEND THE ARKANSAS JUVENILE CODE OF 1989; TO AM…”
TO AMEND THE ARKANSAS JUVENILE CODE OF 1989; TO AMEND THE CHILD MALTREATMENT ACT; TO … A. Clark Died on House Calendar at Sine Die adjournment.
SB326 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…THE LAW REGARDING THE CHILD MALTREATMENT CENTRAL REGISTRY. SB326 A. Clark TO AMEND THE ARKANSAS JUVENILE CODE OF 1989 AND TH…”
TO AMEND THE ARKANSAS JUVENILE CODE OF 1989 AND THE CHILD MALTREATMENT ACT; TO MODIFY … A. Clark Died on House Calendar at Sine Die adjournment.
SB342 Act 749 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…ARKANSAS CODE WHICH RESULTED FROM INITIATED ACT 3 OF 1936. SB342 A. Clark TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING INJURIES TO CERTAIN AN…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING INJURIES TO CERTAIN ANIMALS BY DOGS TO AUTHORIZE TREBLE DAMAGES. A. Clark Notification that SB342 is now Act 749
SB355 Act 1000 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…MINIMUM AGE NECESSARY TO ADJUDICATE A JUVENILE DELINQUENT. SB355 J. Bryant TO AMEND THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF OBSTRUCTING GOVE…”
TO AMEND THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF OBSTRUCTING GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS. J. Bryant Notification that SB355 is now Act 1000
SB364 Act 750 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…O DEFINE "HEALTHCARE WORKER" REGARDING ASSAULT AND BATTERY. SB364 Hester TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING VIOLATIONS AND PENALTIES…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING VIOLATIONS AND PENALTIES RELATED TO CONTRACTORS. Hester Notification that SB364 is now Act 750
SB375 Act 662 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…AMEND THE PENALTIES FOR THE OFFENSE OF SEXUAL SOLICITATION. SB375 Stone TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF CAPITAL RAPE; AND TO AMEND A…”
TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF CAPITAL RAPE; AND TO AMEND A PORTION OF ARKANSAS CODE … Stone Notification that SB375 is now Act 662
SB426 Act 654 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…HE SEVENTEENTH DISTRICT OF THE STATE DISTRICT COURT SYSTEM. SB426 Hester TO CREATE THE DEFENSE AGAINST CRIMINAL ILLEGALS ACT;…”
TO CREATE THE DEFENSE AGAINST CRIMINAL ILLEGALS ACT; AND TO ESTABLISH ENHANCED PENALTIES FOR ILLEGAL … Hester Notification that SB426 is now Act 654
SB427 Act 663 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…EGAL ALIENS WHO COMMIT SERIOUS FELONIES INVOLVING VIOLENCE. SB427 J. Bryant TO AMEND PROMOTING PROSTITUTION OFFENSES; TO ENHA…”
TO AMEND PROMOTING PROSTITUTION OFFENSES; TO ENHANCE THE PENALTIES FOR PROMOTING PROSTITUTION IN THE FIRST, … J. Bryant Notification that SB427 is now Act 663
SB428 Act 664 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…CREATE THE OFFENSE OF PROMOTING PROSTITUTION AT A BUSINESS. SB428 J. Bryant CONCERNING A CIVIL CAUSE OF ACTION FOR VICTIMS OF…”
CONCERNING A CIVIL CAUSE OF ACTION FOR VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING; AND TO PROVIDE A … J. Bryant Notification that SB428 is now Act 664
SB429 Act 665 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB429 J. Bryant TO EXPAND THE SEALING OF CRIMINAL RECORDS FOR VIC…”
TO EXPAND THE SEALING OF CRIMINAL RECORDS FOR VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING; TO PROVIDE THAT … J. Bryant Notification that SB429 is now Act 665
SB430 Act 666 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB430 J. Bryant AN ACT TO REQUIRE MANDATORY RESTITUTION TO BE AWA…”
AN ACT TO REQUIRE MANDATORY RESTITUTION TO BE AWARDED TO A VICTIM OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING; … J. Bryant Notification that SB430 is now Act 666
SB435 Act 753 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…IES TO CERTAIN ANIMALS BY DOGS TO AUTHORIZE TREBLE DAMAGES. SB435 Irvin TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF AGGRAVATED ASSAULT…”
TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF AGGRAVATED ASSAULT UPON A HEALTHCARE WORKER; AND TO DEFINE … Irvin Notification that SB435 is now Act 753
SB442 Act 667 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…T CERTAIN SEXUALLY EXPLICIT PRODUCTS THAT RESEMBLE A CHILD. SB442 J. Bryant TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING HUMAN TRAFFICKING; TO…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING HUMAN TRAFFICKING; TO PROVIDE FOR FORFEITURE OF ASSETS USED TO … J. Bryant Notification that SB442 is now Act 667
SB449 Act 669 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…REATE THE OFFENSE OF HARBORING AN ENDANGERED RUNAWAY CHILD. SB449 Dees TO PROVIDE CIVIL IMMUNITY FOR CONFISCATION OF ALTERNAT…”
TO PROVIDE CIVIL IMMUNITY FOR CONFISCATION OF ALTERNATIVE NICOTINE PRODUCTS, VAPOR PRODUCTS, E-LIQUID PRODUCTS, TOBACCO … Dees Notification that SB449 is now Act 669
SB457 Act 1001 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…T OF PROPERTY AFTER TEN YEARS HAVE ELAPSED SINCE THE THEFT. SB457 G. Leding TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE RELEASE FROM PARO…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE RELEASE FROM PAROLE OR POST-RELEASE SUPERVISION OF CERTAIN PERSONS … G. Leding Notification that SB457 is now Act 1001
SB459 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…ND TO AMEND PROCEDURES AROUND REPORTING CHILD MALTREATMENT. SB459 G. Leding TO AMEND THE MINIMUM AGE NECESSARY TO ADJUDICATE…”
TO AMEND THE MINIMUM AGE NECESSARY TO ADJUDICATE A JUVENILE DELINQUENT. G. Leding Died in House at Sine Die adjournment.
SB485 Act 670 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB485 C. Tucker TO REDUCE RECIDIVISM; AND TO AMEND THE LAW CONCER…”
TO REDUCE RECIDIVISM; AND TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE SUSPENDED IMPOSITION OF A SENTENCE, … C. Tucker Notification that SB485 is now Act 670
SB487 Act 754 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB487 Irvin TO AMEND THE LAW ON THE DESTRUCTION OR EXPUNGEMENT OF…”
TO AMEND THE LAW ON THE DESTRUCTION OR EXPUNGEMENT OF JUVENILE DELINQUENCY RECORDS. Irvin Notification that SB487 is now Act 754
SB488 Act 755 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…SENTENCE, PROBATION, PAROLE, AND POST- RELEASE SUPERVISION. SB488 Irvin TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING WHEN A JUVENILE IS CONSID…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING WHEN A JUVENILE IS CONSIDERED TO BE ADJUDICATED DELINQUENT. Irvin Notification that SB488 is now Act 755
SB490 Act 972 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB490 Irvin TO ALLOW A COURT TO WAIVE CERTAIN FEES WHEN A JUVENIL…”
TO ALLOW A COURT TO WAIVE CERTAIN FEES WHEN A JUVENILE IS ORDERED TO REGISTER … Irvin Notification that SB490 is now Act 972
SB511 Act 757 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…CO PRODUCTS, AND CIGARETTE PAPERS FROM A MINOR AT A SCHOOL. SB511 B. Johnson TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF AUTOMATED TELL…”
TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF AUTOMATED TELLER MACHINE IMPAIRMENT. B. Johnson Notification that SB511 is now Act 757
SB512 Act 758 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…HE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF AUTOMATED TELLER MACHINE IMPAIRMENT. SB512 B. Johnson TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING ROBBERY AND AGGRAVAT…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING ROBBERY AND AGGRAVATED ROBBERY. B. Johnson Notification that SB512 is now Act 758
SB513 Act 759 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…LAW CONCERNING ROBBERY AND AGGRAVATED ROBBERY. Page 2 of 5 SB513 B. Johnson TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF MAIL THEFT; AN…”
TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF MAIL THEFT; AND TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF … B. Johnson Notification that SB513 is now Act 759
SB514 Act 760 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…UNAUTHORIZED REPRODUCTION OF A MAIL RECEPTACLE KEY OR LOCK. SB514 B. Johnson TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE UNLAWFUL POSSESS…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF A SKIMMER; AND TO INCREASE PENALTIES … B. Johnson Notification that SB514 is now Act 760
SB537 Act 763 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…THE UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF A SKIMMER FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS. SB537 Gilmore TO CREATE THE EARNING SAFE REENTRY THROUGH WORK ACT…”
TO CREATE THE EARNING SAFE REENTRY THROUGH WORK ACT; AND TO CREATE A SENTENCE CREDIT … Gilmore Notification that SB537 is now Act 763
SB539 Act 723 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…ME CREDITS THROUGH EMPLOYMENT; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. SB539 Gilmore TO UPDATE AND CLARIFY CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THE LAW R…”
TO UPDATE AND CLARIFY CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THE LAW REGARDING THE DIVISION OF COMMUNITY CORRECTION … Gilmore Notification that SB539 is now Act 723
SB555 Act 765 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB555 J. Scott TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE OFFENSE OF VIDEO V…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE OFFENSE OF VIDEO VOYEURISM; TO EXTEND THE STATUTE OF … J. Scott Notification that SB555 is now Act 765
SB575 Act 989 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB575 C. Tucker TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING INSTALLMENT FEES COLL…”
TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING INSTALLMENT FEES COLLECTED IN CIRCUIT AND DISTRICT COURTS; TO AMEND … C. Tucker Notification that SB575 is now Act 989
SB590 Act 769 · 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “SB590 Gilmore TO CREATE THE RECIDIVISM REDUCTION SYSTEM WITHIN TH…”
TO CREATE THE RECIDIVISM REDUCTION SYSTEM WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS; AND TO DECLARE AN … Gilmore Notification that SB590 is now Act 769
SB597 Act 770 · 2 mentions in agenda, chapter
Matched: “…THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. SB597 B. Johnson TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF THREAT OF HARM…”
TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF THREAT OF HARM UPON A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION EMPLOYEE. B. Johnson Notification that SB597 is now Act 770
HB1871 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “HB1871 Gazaway TO REQUIRE A PERIOD OF INCARCERATION FOR DEFENDANTS…”
TO REQUIRE A PERIOD OF INCARCERATION FOR DEFENDANTS WHO REPEATEDLY VIOLATE THE TERMS OF THEIR … Gazaway Died in House Committee at Sine Die adjournment.
SB313 Act 733 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB313 Irvin CONCERNING FORENSIC MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATIONS AND TRE…”
CONCERNING FORENSIC MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATIONS AND TREATMENT; AND TO PROMOTE AND IMPROVE EFFICIENCIES AND QUALITY … Irvin Notification that SB313 is now Act 733
SB431 Act 987 · 1 mention in chapter
Matched: “SB431 J. Bryant TO AMEND THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING ACT OF 2013; TO EL…”
TO AMEND THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING ACT OF 2013; TO ELIMINATE THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR … J. Bryant Notification that SB431 is now Act 987

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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 0:05
First bill up is going to be with uh Representative Richardson. Representative Richardson, you, you are recognized to present House Bill 1178. House Bill 1178 members. You'll identify yourself, you'll be recognized to present your bill. Thank
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Representative R. Scott Richardson Unverified 0:26
you, Madam Chair. Scott Richardson, a House District 13, uh, Members, you've heard this bill before and I, I won't belabor the, the long story on it. This one is uh a constituent-led bill, um, the, uh, the chief complaint during our last session, was that there were concerns that this could create a condition where prosecutors might pick and choose, uh, which of the, uh, which was more monetarily beneficial to prosecute. So in order to address that, we amended. the bill, and if you look on page 2 of the bill line 4 through 12. We took out that language and we just said a city of the second class or an incorporated town that chooses not to have an office or city attorney may contract with an attorney for legal representation. This gets us back to just status quo. They can hire an attorney to prosecute their their needs and move forward. And with that, I'm happy to try to address any questions or concerns. Members, are there any questions? Seeing no questions, we have no
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:38
one who signed up to speak for or against the bill. C. Richardson, you're recognized
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Representative R. Scott Richardson Unverified 1:43
clothes for your bill. Thank you committee. I appreciate you letting me uh get this uh a minute and bring it back and uh I would appreciate a good vote and make a motion to pass. Members, we have
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:55
a motion to do bass on the table. Is there any discussion of the motion, seeing no discussion of the motion, all in favor, please say aye. Any opposed say no. The eyes have it. You've passed your bill. Members, let's take up House Bill 1057, House Bill 1057 representing Richardson, for the record, if you'll just go ahead and
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Representative R. Scott Richardson Unverified 2:19
identify yourself again and then you may proceed. Uh, thank you, Madam Chair. Um, House Bill Scott Richardson, uh, district 13, um, sorry, let me pull up my notes on this one because there were quite a few more questions on it, and I want to make sure that I go through each one committee, um, again, this is a bill that you've, that you heard previously. There were a number of concerns around the bill. Um, I went back to try to address as many of them as possible and still accomplish the mission associated with the bill. Um, if you, uh, We had concerns around what happens if a convicted felony in another state, um, if they're convicted of a felony in another state, um. We looked at line 518, sorry, I'm trying to read my notes and, and go through that line, uh, excuse me, page 5, line 18. Um We addressed that concern, um, by, uh, making it available in the NCIC. We had another question concerns around officer had conflicting information, um, if they were out and made a stop, what if the ACIC said one thing in the NCIC, uh said another thing, how are they going to address that? we address that, um, by adding the responsibility for the ACIC to update NCIC associated with that, um, that restoration of, of rights, um. Again, on page 5, down around line 29, uh, so those were the two primary, uh, questions and concerns that were presented. I know there were another, uh, a number of uh uh excuse me, groups, um, our prosecutors association, the sheriff's association, and the state police that still expressed some concerns with this bill. I, I don't think they've changed their position necessarily a lot. I will speak to the biggest concern that came out of that. There was uh there was made mention during testimony that that they've seen and I, I would agree that they've seen situations go south once an individual's been stopped at a light. I would suggest though that that that's the risk with any individual who has a violent tendency. However, these individuals that we're addressing are nonviolent criminals. They have not demonstrated a violent tendency and so the risk associated with those individuals should be roughly the same as as an individual who hasn't been convicted of a prior uh uh serious crime. So, um, that's uh that's my perspective at this point, and I'm happy to try to Try to approach any questions that you have.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 5:17
Members, any questions? Seeing no questions, we do have someone signed up to speak for the bill. Michael Chamley. Shimla. Sorry, Michael Chamley. First off, I'd like to tell you I appreciate y'all
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Speaker 21 5:33
hearing this, uh, I've been, don't forgive me if I get a little emotional, but I've been looking at this for 40 years, uh, 40 years ago I got into an incident where it made me a fell and uh but I love to hunt fish. And I've been trying to presidential pardons and other issues, other ways, governors. To try to get this resolved. I noticed like Mr. Richardson, this thing has questions to it, you know. There are people out there that even though if they were fortunate enough to be able to have their rights reinstated, they may still make another mistake, I think that's just part of what we deal with today. Um, me and myself, uh, I got fortunate enough to go, uh, which surprised me.
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Speaker 23 6:23
I went to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Kuwait, uh, I stayed there for 6 years. I tried to Assist soldier. To keep the soldier alive because uh as we said, uh, They go out at night and they protected us.
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Speaker 21 6:39
They kept us safe. I never worried once while I was overseas, uh, for my safety ever. I tell some people in this country that it's kind of ironic that I felt safer over there than I do here, you know. Uh, I tell other folks that back in the old days, a person had some uh dignity about him, if you will, whatever you want to call it that if they had a beef with you, they'd, they'd invite you out in the street. Nowadays they just drive by and shoot at everybody, which is wrong, you know. I feel sorry for the children in schools, but I do also believe that since how The Supreme Court, whenever they came down with their ruling or the brewing situation. It is already made a lot of these laws unconstitutional and my, my opinion, they're unconstitutional anyway. But, uh, it made them unconstitutional and they're challenging a lot of them now and they're winning a lot of them now. Uh I do believe that The Constitution, as it says, as I, as I have. Uh studied uh Checked into That it's supposed to be the supreme law of the land. This supposed to trump all of the laws is supposed to Trump state, federal, all laws. That Constitution gives me my right as the Bruin decision did, as the Supreme Court ruled me still being a citizen and even though I've got a felony, I'm still part of the public. I'm still a citizen of the United States. I still have the right to self-protection. I still have the right in a couple of weeks, I think at least to go out and try to shoot a damn turkey, you know, doesn't mean that that might be right or wrong about what I want to do because I know I, I paid my dues the way they wanted me to, but it just seems like now that it's kind of a double jeopardy thing on me. Or I guess I should say all of us cause I'm not really speaking for just me, you know, I'm speaking for all of us. I'm, I am saying that like I said. ago, there is an opportunity out there that if you people or anybody for that matter, give us the opportunity to try to prove ourselves to you once more that we have changed. It doesn't mean that they may not do something different. I know human nature that well to know that's possible. And in reality, I'm really not a betting person, but I would bet it's gonna happen, you know, I do. But at the same time, you don't ever give us the damn chance. How are you ever going to really know? How are you gonna know that I'm gonna stay on the same line that I've been on now for the last 40 years. You know, How are you gonna know that I'm not gonna be the one. Like that poor lady was down there at Outback Steakhouse in Texarkana. Whenever she walked in the door,
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she was pregnant and that man killed her. How are you gonna know that that I might not be the one there that might be able to stop some incident like that. You
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know, we don't know until we try. If we don't try, we will never know. That's why I come up, like I said, 40 years, people I've been looking at this. I'm going to keep looking at it, even if you deny it today. I understand that you're right to do so. I'm only grateful that for at least now after all of that time, I have got to sit here in front of a bunch of people like you that are trying to do the right and the better thing and, and, and at least State my case, so to speak, you know, have my say, so to speak. You know, I'm not trying to convince you to do it. I'm just trying to plan a little seed in your mind about thinking about it. And seeing if you can't come up with something, even if this one's not the right one. Please try to come up with a different one. Thank you, Mr. Shameling, for
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 10:29
your, uh, testimony today. Thank you, ma'am. Members, we have uh a couple of people who have signed up against the bill, Gary Sykes, Mr. Sypes, Chief, if you'll go to the end of the table, you'll be recognized. Just identify yourself and you may make
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your statement. Thank you, ma'am. I'm Gary Sibes, director of the Arkansas Association of Chiefs of Police, our stance is still the same as it was the last time the bill was brought up. I appreciate the gentleman here, uh. Fighting for our country. You have police officers that are out on the streets every day doing the same thing. They're facing these guns every day, um, I'm sure this gentleman is a good person and he's, he's not the one that we're worried about. It's the other ones that we have to worry about and there's a whole lot more that we had to worry about then. This gentleman. It's a shame that we have to do this, but it uh it's just we have a process in place now. And um The chiefs would like to see us
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continue the way we're going now. Any questions for Chief Sypes? See no questions. Thank you for your testimony today. We have one other individual signed up to speak against the bill, Colonel Aaron.
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Uh, Jason Aaron, Lieutenant colonel with the Arkansas State Police of the Arkansas State Police opposes this bill as well for the same reasons Chief Sops. There's already a process in place. It's through the executive branch of government to seek that pardon, uh, to take that power away from that and move it to the judicial branch. Uh, we're taking that power away from the executive branch where it's already a process is in place. Uh, a part of a deterrent of being a convicted felon is losing those gun rights. Uh, and that's, that's where, that's, that's part of that of a consequence of committing a felony, and there's a process in place already that exists. They can seek to get those gun rights back, but, uh, just the state police opposes this bill as
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 12:46
well. Thank you. Are there any questions? Seeing no questions, thank you, Lieutenant Colonel for being here today. Members that saw, uh, of the audience we have signed up to speak for against the bill representative Richardson, you're recognized the clothes for your, oh, I'm sorry. Are you signed up this morning. We'll let you come to the end table we, no, you got to sign up again, but we'll let you speak. You were here this morning, signed up for it. We do have that, so if you'll go ahead and go to the end of the table, you'll be recognized. Good. If you'll identify yourself. Then you may
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Daniel Shue Unverified 13:37
present your testimony. Madam Chair, my name is Daniel Shu. I am the elected prosecuting attorney for Sebastian County, 12th Judicial District, and I am the president of the Arkansas Prosecuting Attorneys Association. Chris Walton, Saline
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County prosecutor. Thank you. You gentlemen. Uh, thank
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you, um. First of all, um, there is a as as the testimony I've heard so
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Daniel Shue Unverified 14:09
far, uh, Arkansas Constitution Article 6, Section 18 gives the power to pardon to the governor. In 1995, uh, with the agreement of the governor Jim Guy Tucker, the legislature passed a special procedure for restoration of firearm rights outside of a park. Um, and you can go online to the ACIC uh Website and it has the instructions on how to fill in the form. The form is 8 pages. It's fill in the blank. And then you have a the 9th page is a choice to ask for a pardon or restoration of firearm rights. Um In this particular bill our issue, we have several, but for me it's on page 5, dealing with filing the uniform petition. Um, you, you've probably familiar with the petitions to seal. Well, the petitions to seal have to be verified. Uh, just to seal a felony, and here you're having a felony removed and the petition doesn't have to be verified, but that you're you're placed under oath and you solemnly swear that this is true. And the reason I say that Oftentimes I do all the responses for the judges on petitions to seal. It's my responsibility to make sure that they have paid all their fines. They paid all their court costs. They've paid the restitution and they haven't committed any new felonies or any other information that the court may require. Uh, this procedure. Bypasses that. The prosecutor is not notified. I never know. And those of you that are lawyers know that a judge can't do this. A judge can't go research the issue and decide the case. They have to listen to the case and then decide. In addition, uh, It says it's in the circuit court of the county in which he or she resides. So a case that is adjudicated in Sebastian County, uh, maybe he decided by a judge in South Arkansas. Who knows nothing of those facts. So how is the judge going to learn those facts? Um And uh, I guess that, oh, Chris, you may have some comments yourself, but uh That's kind of my criticism of this is is the principle, OK, yeah, the principal's OK. There are some felonies that after a certain amount of time, you might need your firearm rights restored, but there's a process that you passed in '95. Outside of a pardon for someone to do this. So that's my critique. you recognize Chris? Thank you. The
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Speaker 53 17:14
one concern I have whenever you have a giant list like this, you are always going to miss certain offenses. DWI felony, that's, that's not listed here. Child endangerment, that's not listed. So those are offenses that would fall under or fall differently than what I think that you intend to do because you're trying to get rid of serious offenses. Meaning that they wouldn't have the same process, but you're missing it, you're missing it if you and anytime you get into a list, you just do that. The second thing I would say is, uh, to, to, to kind of echo, uh, Mr. Xu's point. A judge is going to get this, but there's not someone actually screaming and looking at it. A good example of something that I would be concerned about, and this is something I actually do with pardon applications. Run that person, see if they've committed any additional offenses. They might not have committed another felony, but if you have somebody that has committed 3 domestic batteries or a number of assaults or other misdemeanor crimes, do you want that person automatically getting their gun rights back. And that is a concern I have, you know, this is a shall, uh, statute, the judge shall uh expunge or or seal. And If a person has been committing crimes just not to a felony level during that occasion, a judge will that will end up, they will have their firearm rights restored, and I don't know that society
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wants that. That would be my comment.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 18:55
Representative Crawford, you're recognized for a question. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um Prosecutor's shoe. We were
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Representative Cindy Crawford Unverified 19:04
so close, 2 years ago with Representative Flowers, she ran a bill like this. We got it on the house floor. It almost passed. What's the difference? Do you remember why is this one so much different. If, if I could, I would tell you
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Daniel Shue Unverified 19:27
sometimes things go in one side of this bad haircut and out the other. Uh, I do not recall what the issues might have been. I, I think theoretically something could be drafted, but, but the, my issues with this one is the, the due process. People sometimes forget that the state has some due process rights, and there's not a way to litigate this with, with what's in this bill, a way for the judge to go. OK. Here's my standard. Is it uh preponderous to the evidence? Is it clear and convincing evidence? What do I have to decide and how does this evidence get before me and you're maybe putting it in front of a judge who who never heard the case. Because you're, you're finding it in Pulaski County and the conviction was in Crittenden County. That's my issues
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with the procedure, not with the theoretical concept. Follow up. You're right. So
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Representative Cindy Crawford Unverified 20:23
do you believe that we could work together in the interim. And we could In 2 years? We could craft a bill where people can get their gun rights. We have to get with law enforcement and make get everybody at the
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Daniel Shue Unverified 20:39
table and, and probably come up with, you, you did it in '95. Well, I didn't, but. You weren't born yet, right? Representing Gonzalez, you're recognized for her
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 20:53
question. Madam Chair Representative Crawford took, took one of mine,
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Representative Justin Gonzales Unverified 20:59
but, um, I heard you say that this is a shall bill, but it's, and you're partly correct, but it shall grant or deny. So it's not automatically getting your gun rights back, right? What would
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be the basis if the prosecutions, if nobody is coming, if the prosecution, if the state doesn't understand that it's coming forward because we haven't been notified of this. Who is going to put up the objections. That's the practical aspect of it from my only from my limited perspective. OK, thank you.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 21:35
Representative Unger, you're recognized for a question.
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Representative Steve Unger Unverified 21:38
Thank you, Madam Chair. Gentlemen, I'm just because I'm curious, the restoration of gun rights. Action that is possible, which you mentioned, could you give me a Ballpark figure of how often that is actually used in a year. I, I, I wish I could. That would be something
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that the the governor's office would keep those when I
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Daniel Shue Unverified 22:01
When I was in private practice for 6 years. I did 3 or 4 of those, and I know I did, uh, at least 2 pardons, just, and I did them pro bono publico. I did them because it was the right thing to do for those people. One of them was like a, it was a burglary conviction from like 1957 and he reached in the window and took a purse. I remember that. Thank you. members, any other questions? We have
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 22:32
No one else signed up to speak for against the bill. Thank you, gentlemen for being here at the end of the table and taking questions. Thank you for allowing us to
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Representative R. Scott Richardson Unverified 22:49
testify. Representing Richardson, you're recognized to close for your bill. Well, let's start pretty simple. I appreciate the testimony from law enforcement and from our prosecutors. I don't necessarily um Have the same perspective that they do. Uh, my perspective is, is significantly different. This is a bill that keeps coming around because it is the right thing to do. We ask very specifically when we started this process, what are the what are the crimes that you believe constitute a person actually losing their gun rights in the first place, that these are violent crimes or potential violent crimes. From that, we added those to the list that were recommended. Happy to do that. We, we were able Come up with a comprehensive list, and then in addition to the list, we also added any violent crimes that happen to be listed in currently in statute under violent crime, under the violent crime statute. So anything that gets added in the future automatically disqualifies for this. This is the right approach. This is the way, this is the best way that we can restore these rights to these individuals. I appreciate that that there is always going to be concern that when a police officer comes to a door at a house or comes to a car door, they're always going to have a risk associated with this. These are individuals who have never demonstrated that risk. So why would we consider them any different than anyone else. These are nonviolent, mostly financial type crimes. These are not crimes that people have done that that create a violent tendency or demonstrate a violent tendency and therefore there their tendency to react would normally be the same as anyone. else's. Is there the potential for violence? I think there's the potential for violence. As much so for anyone who is Who has not been convicted of a violent crime and just happens to be their first attempt. Beyond that, I understand that there is Governor pardon capabilities. That is not addressed in this bill. The governor still has full capabilities within this bill to do pardons. That's not changed. In addition to that, 1995, um, there was a clemency requirement or clemency piece that was added for 8 years that the governor could grant. clemency for these individuals. We know that there are 19 other states that already allow for Uh, either a Non-governor intervention and restoration of gun rights, or they never lose their gun rights, and that's because it's the right approach. These are nonviolent individuals. I'm sorry, I can't remember the witness's name, but that's just one example of probably 150 emails that I've received from individuals all across our state that have the same problems they cannot get through the process. They cannot get taken care of through the standard mechanism, nonviolent people deserve to have their gun rights back, and with that I will be closed, make a motion do pass and would appreciate a good vote. Members, we have a motion to pass on
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 25:57
the table. Is there any discussion of the motion? Seeing no discussion of the motion, all in favor, please say aye. All opposed say no. The nose habit, the bill has failed. Members were turning next to house Bill. 1978 representing Gazaway, you're recognized to go to the end of the table, present House Bill 1978.
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified 26:44
Go ahead and identify yourself. We're ready. Thank you, Madam Chair. State Representative Jimmy Gazaway, District 31. Members, today I have before you House Bill 1978, which proposes to create a new district court judge position. For District 17, which is green in Clay County. This is where my legislative district is also Representative Wooldridge, Representative Kavanaugh is a small portion that, uh, this district court serves and also Senator Johnson has the entirety of this district. We currently have one district court judge position that is serving two counties. And I'll just kind of tell you. For many years, decades, I suppose now. Uh, we had one full-time district court judge that served only Greene County and Clay County. which has the cities of Pigottt and Corn in Clay County is one of those unique counties that has a dual county seat. Clay County had a part-time district court judge, so What we had for many decades is a full-time district court judge in Greene County. And a part-time district court judge in Clay County. Recently, or fairly recently when there was some consolidations of judicial districts and reworking. Uh, redistricting, if you will. Clay can they eliminated the Clay County part-time district court judgeship and the Greene County, they combined those two into one district and the Greene County District court judge, of course ran for that new position. And so now he is doing what I believe is the equivalent of a full-time job plus at least a part-time job. I can tell you that the city of Perigold we're very proud of this, is a is a growing community, one of the probably few growing communities in eastern Arkansas. I think it's the crown jewel of eastern Arkansas, if you ask me. But, uh, it's a growing community and we just approved a tax in Per Gould, the voters did to add 16 new police officers. So in addition to all the work that our district court judge already has to do. We're going to have 16 new police officers on the streets in Periggould that are going be making arrests, requesting search warrants, is it going to add even more to his workload and so With that, um, in talking with the district court judge, he said that it would be helpful if we could add another district court judge position. I know that uh he, he works hard, he has a lot of work in sign and search warrants late at night. You know, he may get a search warrant request at 1:30 in the morning. And, you know, these are the things and the duties of a district court judge that many people don't see. And so if you just look at the time that he has to spend in court. That's one thing, but it's another thing if you try to take into consideration the warrants that he has to sign, uh, at all hours of the night, um. Search warrants, arrest warrants, but the court that he holds, he has civil divisions, small claims division, criminal division and just the way that Greene County is growing, the way that the city of Perigold is growing and then putting the additional responsibilities of Clay County on him. And you know what you have in Clay County, you have the city of Piggott, City of Corning, City of Rector, City of Marmaduke, they all have police, police officers, police agencies, they have state police, they're stationed in Clay County. And so now he has to get all of those warrants, all of those. affidavits and the Clay County Sheriff's Office from multiple law enforcement agencies that he did not have to serve. And so because of that, uh, we feel like that there's a need for another district court judge position. That's what this bill does, but very interestingly, I want to point this out. So before I filed this bill, I had a meeting with the mayor of Perrigould. The Greene County judge and then I didn't speak personally with the Clay County. Judge, but I know Senator Johnson did, and They want a new judgeship so badly that they are willing to pay for it. So the city that includes the salary, the retirement, all the benefits. The city of Perrigould and Greene County will pay, and this is in the bill for 75% of the entire expenditure necessary to add this judgeship and Clay County will pick up the remaining 25% of the expenditure. So the point is it's not going to cost the state any money if we do this. And so, I think, you know, if it's not gonna cost us any money there's not gonna be. Any fiscal impact to the state, then I think there's a good reason for us to To do that and accommodate people who are asking for it. So with that, that's what the bill does, and I'm happy to answer any questions. Gonzalez, you're recognized for a
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 31:51
question. Well, he kind of answered my question because I was going to
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Representative Justin Gonzales Unverified 31:59
ask about if these cities and counties had agreed to pay this additional salary, but now I want to ask, do we have the situation anywhere else in the state where we have multiple district court judges where the salary is shared by cities or counties or anything like that, and then, you know what happens in the future when if that's not the case, and what happens in the future when they come in and say, Oh, well, you pay for everybody else's, but for some reason we're, we're paying for ours and we want to eliminate that. So now the state's on the
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 32:34
hook for it once again. Let me, can I answer that question? Yeah, let me answer that because we just passed uh the big bill on district courts, and it's now act, I can't tell you what act it is. There is no county or cities that will be paying for their district judges. The state has taken that on and so this concept it is not. allowed I mean, we have taken that on because they're now state district court judges, and that was part of that 2025 year process. So no, to answer your question, no. Now there are some cost sharing in clerks because the clerks aren't uh state employees, OK? So I don't want that to get confused, uh, but that's, there is that cost sharing but not for district judges. Is that did that, I'm sorry to interrupt, but it's just one of those things we've been through all that study and referencing Gonzalez, you weren't part of that committee that heard all of that and so I, so I just want you to be understand what that was, uh, Reine Clowney. recognized for a question.
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Representative Nicole Clowney Unverified 33:40
Thank you, Madam Chair. Representative Gassway, I'm sure you can guess my question. Um, so we have a district court resource assessment board on which I sit. The job of that board, um, the statutory obligation of that board is to make recommendations for or against a new district court when people in the state come to them and ask. So it's a pretty clear set out process that um since I've served a number of judges and other stakeholders have come before us to um ask for a recommendation for a district court. I guess my question to you is, why didn't you utilize? crab
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified 34:13
in the formation of this. So that's a great question. I did anticipate that question. Um. I believe the responsibility to take a proposal like this. I'm not sure that that falls on the legislator. Uh, I think that our current district court judge considered that, and I think there may have been some discussions about taking it before Drab. I know that that's typical protocol, but it's not required. In my understanding is that is that this legislature, if it wants to create a new judgeship, it can, but you are absolutely correct. The typical protocol is, is that you Take these types of proposals to de crab. You get their approval because they analyze, as you've noted, whether or not this is necessary based on case load, a number of other factors and for one reason or another, which I don't really know right now. That didn't happen, but that does not prohibit us from passing a bill to create
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 35:11
a new judgeship. Representative Clowney, if you'd like to look at Arkansas code annotated 16-17-103. The duties of the district court recess assessment ward, which we refer to as D crab is tasked by the legislature to recommend that each regular session. One criteria for the creation and placement of full-time state funded district court judgeships to revisions of current district court judgeships or the redistricting the district court judgeships, looking at the caseload and the geographical area, uh, and then the procuring of the Supreme Court also enters into their discussions and any other matter that the board determines and the 3, the other part that we established in law is the number and placement of full-time state funded district judgeships. So that's what Drab does representing Tasha recognized
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Representative Dwight Tosh Unverified 36:07
for her question. Thank you, Madam Chair. Representative, I, I'm just curious. I know there's probably been a lot of discussion and did a good job of explaining the need for the additional district court, but how is that going to affect the uh I guess the city attorney or uh right now, are they going to share those the city attorney, will they share those responsibilities or what uh what thought has been given to how that part of it's going to be handled. Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, in terms of the increased
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified 36:37
workload that I think the city of Perigold expects to see. Do you mean from the hiring
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Representative Dwight Tosh Unverified 36:43
of those additional officers? Yes, and then the workload with that and plus now, I'm sure the city attorney there's just one, they've got +11 court,
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified 36:53
one district court, and now they'll have 2 my understanding that correctly. Yes, there would be 2 divisions within Division 17 that, uh, that's going to require to be more court dates, uh, you'll have to have, uh, yeah, more. Time the attorneys will be spending more time. I, I don't know if they'll want to hire someone new in Perigold, that's the branch Thompson firm that is the city attorney has been for years and they hire people to serve as their assistants, so maybe they choose to do that, I don't know, but yes, to your point, it will be more court dates. It'll be more resources all the way around. Represent Springer, you're recognized
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 37:32
for a question. Thank, thank you, Madam Chair, and good afternoon. I'm not sure that I
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Representative Joy Springer Unverified 37:40
heard, but can you give us some information with respect to the case load that you're talking about between the two cities, do you have
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified 37:51
any information regarding that? Thank you for that question. I don't, um, I don't have all that information at my
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Representative R. Scott Richardson Unverified 37:58
fingertips. I think that I see, uh, Mr. Cavan is back here in
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 38:03
the back from AOC, could, would you be able to answer representative Springer's question. Well, if you'll come to the table and identify yourself, that may help. Representing Springerson, if, if you have that information and you can share it, you'll identify yourself for the record and then represent Springer, you may need to repeat your question. I'm not sure if Mr. Cavan has heard it or not, but. I'm Keith Cavanau,
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staff attorney with the administrative Office of the courts. Representative Springer, you want to repeat your question? Yes, ma'am. Let
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 38:35
me see if I can remember. I, I think we were
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Representative Joy Springer Unverified 38:41
talking about caseload between the two cities. Do we have any information with respect to what the current caseloads that are that they are in question between the district court judge in
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Speaker 91 38:56
the two counties, the two cities. Revenue representative Springer, I did not bring information to break it down by city because currently one judge serves both counties and all of the departments of the court. So AOC caseload data shows for 2021, there was 20,117 cases filed in the 17th District. In 2022, 18,0653. 2023, 18,00063. In 2024, 17,000789. So, actually, the data shows the case load is trending downward. Alright, thank you.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 39:47
Members, while we have representing cavernous. Um, at the end of the table, are there any other questions in regard that he may be able to answer. As to caseload. I have a question uh Mr. Cavanaus. Can you give us an idea how many days of the week
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Speaker 91 40:12
this particular court meets. Yes, Chairman Dalby. According to The currently approved administrative plan filed by this Court. Court is held 9 days per month. 4 of those 9 court days. Or half days. There is no court held in the 17th District on Thursday or Friday. Members, any other questions from Representing Cavanaus?
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 40:49
I mean, Mr. Kaas, sorry about that. Former Judge Gavinous, I guess I should say. Saying no further questions, thank you for coming to the end of the table. We have no one signed up to speak for or against the bill, members, are there any other questions of Representative Gazaway. Seeing no further questions, representing Gassway, you recognized to close
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified 41:11
for your bill. Thank you, Madam Chair, and I, I do appreciate the questions by the committee. I think those are good questions. I will say that It is within the province of this legislature and this committee if we pass this bill out of here. To create a judgeship or not, and while I understand that D crab is typically an important part of that process. It's not required for us to create a new judgeship. I understand that the argument's been made that the case load is going down, but the city of Perrigould again with the hiring of these 16 new officers is going to create a lot of more work. For a district court, and I'll just go back to point out that the judgeship was a full-time position when it was just Greene County. And now they've added Clay County to that which comes with a lot more law enforcement agencies and a lot more responsibilities, but, uh, no additional help for the judge. No additional money. We're going to put a lot more work on you, but we're not going to give you any more money and we're not going to give you any more help, and that's the position that my district court judge has found himself in, and I don't think any of us would accept that if we were in, uh, If we were in a similar position and so he's requested that it would be helpful if we had another district court judge and so, uh, that's why I'm running this bill. And again, I've also talked with and I think this is an important point. My local leaders in the Mayor Perry Gould. The county judge for Greene County, the county judge for Clay County, and the point is, is there, they would like this judgeship so much that they're willing to pay for it, and I understand that that's not typical protocol, and I understand that that's the process that we're moving away from. We're moving to a fully state-funded. court system. However, I will say with the deputy prosecutors, for instance, there are certain districts around the state where the localities fund the deputy prosecutors. And so my point to you is, if the city and the county are willing to pay for it. It's not going to be at any expense to the state of Arkansas, then I guess my point would be. Why not allow it? And so with that, um, I'm closed for the bill, would appreciate a good vote and make a
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motion to pass. Members, we have a motion to do pass on the table. Is there any discussion of the motion representing Clowney. You're recognized for
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discussion. Thank you, Madam Chair. Representative Gassway, you're, you're doing right by your district and your people by, you know, advocating for it is for what it is that they want. I'm certainly sympathetic to the struggle of of your judge and so many across the state. I think what's important is that Dcrab exists, and, you know, if you're reading of the laws that it's not required to go through Drob understand that, but I think the advantage is that Derop can take a holistic look at what's happening across our state. Um, it was, it was created to avoid, you know, individual legislators. I think every legislative session coming forward and suggesting new district courts in their district, and, um, I, you know, this problem sounds um real and burdensome, and I would encourage if this bill doesn't get through today, you know, coming before the crowd and seeing what we can do to help give some relief, but for today I'm going to have to be a no because they're just so Many others in the state that I think would would have asked for the same thing. Um, so I will be in on this. I will also say that I'm concerned about the funding piece, um, listening to Che Dobby, it sounds like um the funding mechanism that's put forward in this bill is is no longer going to be possible. So for those reasons, I'll be a no. Members in the other uh discussions, seeing
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no further discussions, all in favor of the motions, please say aye. And he opposed say no. The bill has failed. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you. Members, we're going back to the very top of our agenda. It's time to start Senate bills. For anybody who is in the room or watching, it is the goal of this committee that we will stop at 7 o'clock at the latest because no good decisions happen when we are tired, and these are Senate bills, so. Representative Beatty, Senate Bill 302. Members, if you'll turn to Senate Bill 302. We have an impact assessment we're passing it out, so. Hi, Representative Betty. You are recognized to identify yourself and present Senate Bill
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Representative Howard M. Beaty, Jr. Unverified 46:32
302. State representative Howard Beatty, District 95, uh, members here to present Senate Bill 302, and it's to create the criminal offense of gift card fraud, and it also has emergency clauses on the bill. Uh, this, this bill is aimed at addressing the issue of gift card fraud by creating a criminal offense, um, basically summary of the bill, it, it has the definitions cardholder and card issuer and identified the redemption and then the value of to cover the scope of the offense. Uh, the bill states that a person commits gift card fraud if they acquire, retain, or use a gift card or gift card redemption information with the purpose of defrauding the owner of property. Um, the severity of the, of the offense is determined by the value of the gift card or the gift card redemption information involved. It ranges from a class A misdemeanor for lower value cases to a Class B felony for higher value cases. Uh, emergency clause, uh, basically is there's a prevalence of gift card fraud in the state and the economic consequences faced by our business and consumer, um, that makes this an emergency and it requires the emergency clause. Um, so with that, I'll entertain any questions. Members, any questions?
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We have no one signed up to speak for or against this bill. Representing Betty, Betty, you're recognized the
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Representative Howard M. Beaty, Jr. Unverified 48:04
clothes for your bill, members, again, this bill just aims to combat gift card fraud, establish those penalties for offenders based on the value, uh, and provide some immediate protection for Arkansas businesses, uh, with that, um, I'm closed to offer a motion do pass and would appreciate a good vote. Members, we have a motion to do pass on the
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table. Is there any discussion of the motion? Seeing no discussion, all in favor, please say aye. Any opposed? Say no. The ayes have it. You've passed the bill. Do you have another one referencinging Betty while you're there? I
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Representative Howard M. Beaty, Jr. Unverified 48:38
do have another one, Senate Bill 449 is um with Senator Dees. Hang on just a minute. Let everybody find that. Members,
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if you have an agenda, it's on the 2nd page of the agenda, Senate Bill 449. Hang on just one moment. All right, you're recognized to identify yourself for the
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record, and you may present Senate Bill 449. Uh, State Representative Howard Beatty District 95, um, uh, Madam Chair, members committee to present Senate Bill 449, uh, basically it's a bill to provide civil immunity for the confiscation of alternative nicotine products, vape products, liquid products, tobacco products for, and cigarette papers from a minor at a school. Uh, basically what this bill is doing, it aims to provide civil immunity for individuals to confiscate certain materials from a minor at a school setting. Uh, the product's covered by this bill include, uh, as I said earlier, the alternative nicotine products and vape products, um, basically this bill is meant to protect those who take action to confiscate these, uh, these products for minors at school and to prevent the use of these substances on school grounds. That I'll entertain any questions. Representative Collins, you're recognized for
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 49:55
a question. Thank you, Madam Chair. What
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 50:01
kind of lawsuits have been coming out of confiscation of these products. Representative Collins, I'm not aware that there, there have been any lawsuits on the side. I think it's the concern about the lawsuits that could come out. That's why they're wanting this immunity. Follow up, please. You're recognized. I genuinely, I mean, I'm not even I'm not really against it at all. I'm probably for it. I just, I mean, what, how could you even sue someone, for taking that nicotine product, it's like what would be even the theory behind it. What, what would someone say? How, what would be the cause of action? Well, I think some of the fear from some of the educators and
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folks on school grounds, is that that action could lead to to litigation with other things right now in society, um. I think there's just a fear. Some of them, is there an unwillingness to act, uh, based on a fear of, of being sued or placed in that position. OK OK. You good? Do you
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need another you're good? All right, any other questions? Remember seeing no other questions, we have no one who has signed up to speak for or against the bill. Representative Beatty,
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you recognized clothes for your bill. Members, I appreciate your attention again. It's just to provide a little protection to those, those um educators, folks at at school, uh, so that they, they have a little more confidence when they confiscate these products. They're not going to be placed themselves in some uh some position of having to face a lawsuit on that side and also to prevent the use of these substance on school grounds. With that, I'd offer a motion. pass and I'd appreciate a good
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 51:35
vote. Members, we have a motion to pass on the table. Is there any discussion of the motion? Seeing no discussion of the motion, all in favor of the motion, please say aye. Any opposed? Say no.yes have it, you have passed the bill. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you committee. All right, members, let's go back up. the top of our agenda. It's my understanding, uh, Representative Duke couldn't be here to present Senate Bill 314 representative Richardson, you've indicated that you'll present Senate Bill 314, so you'll be recognized to go to the end of the table. passing out an impact assessment. Just give us just a couple of minutes and get that out or 30 seconds and then we'll go with you. Members this will be Senate Bill 314.
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Josh. Representative Richardson, you're recognized to present Senate Bill 314.
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Representative R. Scott Richardson Unverified 53:11
Thank you, Madam Chair, Scott Richardson, District 13, uh, running this, uh, bill on behalf of Representative Duke, um, who had to leave for a family emergency, um, I, uh, uh, as I understand it, the, uh, the, the crux of this bill associated with addressing the challenges with sexual solicitation and a current undefined or unclassified rather misdemeanor, moving that to a standard defense for the first offense, class A. misdemeanor and for the 2nd and subsequent offenses being class D felony, and with that I will attempt. And to field
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questions. Members, any questions? Seeing their questions. We have no one who signed
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up to speak for or against the bill. Representative Richardson, you're recognized clothes for the bill. I
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think I've said everything I can say about it, so I'd appreciate a good vote
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and would make motion do pass members, we have a motion to do pass on the table. Is there any discussion of the motion? Seeing no discussion, all in favor of the motion, please say aye. Any posts say no. The eyes have it. Members, we've had a couple of representatives who's who've had the joy of, of sitting with us all day long waiting for their Senate bill to come up, so I'm going to drop down a couple of Senate bills, um, just because some of us might need their vote on the House floor tomorrow for something, so we're going to just drop down a couple of bills and go to. Senate Bill 313, Representative Moore, you're recognized to come to the end of the table for Senate Bill 313. We have an amendment on that bill that we need to pass out. So let's get the amendment taken care of. On the first page. Senate Bill 313. Represent more you recognize to identify yourself and present your amendment. Thank you, Madam Chair, Kendra Moore, state representative District
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23. Madam Chair, with your permission, may I have
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Scott Bradley and Taylor Hanford join me at the table. Certainly. While they're enjoying table, you want to explain your amendment real quick so then we can Take
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care of that, so just a few points to highlight on the amendment, the changes on page 2 was just suggested by the judicial council as part of a judicial economy efficiency, page 4 of those changes were just to address lack of fitness to precede language regarding administration of medication and then page 6 just clears up some language on motions to request an in camera or ex parte hearing to protect potentially privileged information. Evidently on your iPad, it
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 56:39
shows 66 pages, we're counting 3, but I think that takes care of it. Uh, Representative Eubanks. We have a motion to adopt the amendment. Is there any discussion of the motion? Seeing the discussion are in favor of adopting the amendment, please say aye. And he posts say no, the eyes have it more you recognize to present your bill as
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amended. Thank you, Madam Chair. So Senate Bill 313 is a culmination of months of hard work between many agencies toward a common goal. DHS, the judicial counsel, the sheriff's Association, and many prosecutors have all collaborated to reach what we feel is a good bill to help our judicial process. I sit on the Public Health Committee and so June of last year we had a joint meeting with the House and Senate public health that was held in Fort Smith, and we heard testimony from many of our county sheriffs regarding a systemic issue such as hundreds of detainees and county jails awaiting forensic evaluations and treatment. This was the catalyst that triggered the creation of a working group, including legislators, county sheriffs, DHS, mental health experts, and prosecutors to address these issues. A forensic evaluation process or fitness to proceed examination is a critical part of our judicial system. For we non-lawyers in the room, this is the way the courts determine whether an offender is mentally capable of standing trial. Unfortunately, these exams take time to administer and can create a costly backlog in our county jails resulting in extended stays that burden our system and delay. Definitive care for those with mental health conditions. The ultimate goal is to move these defendants through the system quicker, getting them the treatment that they need and ultimately giving justice to victims quicker. So what this bill seeks to solve is a few little things here, reduces the time it takes to get that forensic evaluation after that fitness to precede motion occurs. This will reduce the time from 10 to 6 months, decreases the backlog in the official system by decreasing the number of evaluations ordered and reducing the number of inmates sitting in our county jails awaiting evaluations, reducing cost, keeping our jailers safe and bringing justice to victims through restorative services. Again, I just can't say enough about DHS and their partnership in this legislation. A lot of this was led by DHS in the development of these solutions such as additional beds at the Ash Hospital reimbursement for medication and a process to path for these restorative services. The bill is supported by the Arkansas Sheriff's Association, the county judges Association and DHS. And with that, I will attempt to answer some
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questions. Members, any questions? Seeing their questions from the committee, we do have a couple of folks who have signed up to speak against the bill, Greg Parish, Mr. Parish, you recognized to go to the end of the table and identify yourself and may speak against the bill. Thank you, Madam Chair. Greg
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Parish, the Arkansas Public Defender Commission. A couple of things I
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think I need to point out. What we're talking about the terms that you'll see in the bill is fitness to proceed. And criminal responsibility. Fit is to proceed is if someone can assist their attorney and their defense. Meaning if I go try to talk to my client, and he or she thinks they're on Mars. OK. Criminal responsibility comes in after fitness has been determined to determine whether or not they were criminally responsible at the time they committed the act. or suffering from some mental disease or defect that impacted them. We handle probably 90% of these cases. I don't see that the problem is the evaluation process. That's not the problem. The problem is once an individual has been found not fit to proceed. That's when it impacts the sheriff's offices. Because these people are sitting in jail 6789, 10 months awaiting transport. To the department. The Arkansas State Hospital for restoration. That's the delay. And now we've started, we're allowing for restoration to start taking place inside the jail. Just think if you had to see your doctor under conditions like that for a medical need. Now A couple of things in the bill. That are also concerning is that whenever I file a petition, When I file any legal pleading as an attorney, as any attorney will tell you. It is filed in good faith. If I file something that's not in good faith, I'm subject to sanctions. By the court. But this bill yet requires me to sign something saying it's in good faith and set forth facts that may very well be privileged information that I've got from my client. So it requires me to state the reasons. You will see the jail-based restoration on page 2, line 9 where it talks about restoring these people in jail. Uh I'll just say the name of Larry Eugene Price, that ought to ring some bells. And finally, the one thing I'll I'll point out is page 6, line 10, which I, I would think needs some. Definition Law enforcement officer may employ reasonable force. In cases where an individual refuses administration. The court ordered treatment or medication. Let that soak in. You've got a person in jail. Who is not fit. And the statute allows a law enforcement officer. To employ reasonable force to make sure he or she takes their medication or their treatment. What is reasonable force and with that said, and then the thing I will show is the following paragraph. Provides for immunity for that law enforcement officer. Members any
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questions of Mr. Parish. Representative Hudson, you're recognized for a question. Thank you, Madam Chair. I think those
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of us here at the end of the table we're not sure who Larry Eugene Price is, and I was just curious because I, I wanted to make sure I understood what you're trying
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to. He was the one that was in the Sebastian County jail suffering from a severe mental defect and died in jail. Thank you. Members, any other questions?
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Representative Springer, you're recognized for a question. Thank you, Madam Chair and thank you for being here.
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Representative Joy Springer Unverified 1:04:27
Can you tell us whether or not you've had any discussions with any of the persons responsible for this legislation
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or any other officials very early on we had an Arkansas Association of Counties meeting where I was invited at, and this was brought up. This was several months ago and we sat and we met and I expressed my concerns with the bill in its form at that time, and the problems that I see from the defense side, especially the public defender side, follow up.
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You're No, no. response, no comments or suggestions I believe were taken in
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very good faith. I know Mr. Rosensweig has made some suggestions which have been adopted as well. In this bill Members, any other questions? Seeing
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no further questions, we have another individual who signed up to speak against the bill, Mr. Rosenswe, you recognized to come to the table. Identify yourself and you may give your statement.
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Jeff Rosensweig, Arkansas Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.
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I'll associate myself with Mr. Parish's problems with the bill. I do appreciate that the amendment did did fix two of the problems we noted in the original bill. One is the privileged, the privilege issue that now allows in camera and then Secondly, the, it adopts the constitutional issues with regarding involuntary medication. I still think you're going to have some problems with law enforcement officers administering medication. I think that, I think they're probably should need to have some sort of medical personnel, the jail nurse or someone like that, uh, doing the position doing the administration and not and not a jailer who has no significant medical capability. It. Hang on,
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let me see. Are there any questions? Seeing their questions, thank you, Mr.
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Rosensweig. Members, we have no one else who's signed up to speak for or against the bill. more you recognize to come and
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close for your bill. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you committee for your time. We're excited about this bill, the collaboration and the results that we'll have for our Jailers for our Mental health professionals and for our victims. Representing
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more is closed for a bill. What is, what are the wishes of the committee? We were motioned to do pass on the table. Is there any discussion at the as amended, excuse me, thank you. Motion to do pass as amended Representative Beatty. Thank you. Uh, any discussion of the motion? Seeing no discussion, all in favor of the motion, please say aye. Any posts say no. The eyes have it. You've passed the bill. Thank you committee. Thank you, Madam Chair. Representing Kavanaugh, we are going to Go down to yours that you have. Graciously been here with us all day long, members, let's turn to Senate Bill 426. Senate Bill 426. Thank you, members. Fran Kavanaugh, state representative District 30. You're recognized to present your bill. Thank you. And Madam Chair, I'm Have someone here that's
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supposed to help me. So if it's all right, I can ask her to come down. should take
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We know that person. Come on down, Tommy. Thank you very much. Hang on just one moment for night, uh, no, 426. Tony, if you state your name for the record. Good evening, Tony
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Rowe, chief counsel for the Department of Corrections. You're recognized.
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 1:08:20
Thank you. Members, I'm just going to give you a quick overview of this bill. It does 3 things, and the bill is actually called the Defense Against Criminal Illegals Act. What it does is if a certain set of crimes are serious felonies are actually committed with violence, is going to have enhanced penalties. It's going to work with to make sure our local law enforcement officers cooperate with ICE, and then the third thing it will do it prohibit any sanctuary policies anywhere in the state. And that's a broad overview of what the bill actually does, 3 things. Um, and with that, I'll be glad to start taking questions if Tony would like to, you're recognized for a question. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Representative Kavanaugh, are you aware of any localities that currently are or want to be sanctuary cities. I don't personally know of
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any, but I do know that I've seen them throughout the country and there's a lot of failed sanctuary policies. Follow up, you
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recognize, um, OK, so I guess I'm a little bit concerned about the cost piece as well, um, I have a number of concerns, but that's one concern. Um, what assurances do we have that the federal government will reimburse us and that these costs, the cost of this. are not going to fall on our, um, Local jails or local governments in some way. You. Um, so
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we have a couple individuals at the department who have worked, um, you know, extensively on cooperative agreements with the federal government. We're confident that this isn't going to be anything meaningful at the department level. I can't speak for the counties, but, um, at the Department of Corrections level, we're, we're comfortable with the cost portion of this.
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Members, any other questions? Representing Clowney, you're
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Representative Nicole Clowney Unverified 1:10:12
recognized. Sorry, I don't, I don't want to hammer them, but, um, I just, I have a couple more questions if you don't mind. Um, I know we're obviously super concerned about space in our county jails. It's something I hear about all the time. Uh, what do we see as the impact of this on that space concern. Specifically, do we have any sense of turnaround time if folks are incarcerated, um, new folks are incarcerated, um, What happens? What's the relationship? What's the turnaround time with ICE, um, those are my concerns. Um
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I do not know what the turnaround time is on ice. I think it'd be speculative to, you know, predict any impact if there was to be an increase in volume because of this, and I will say that the federal government, once they take over, um, does reimburse county jails pretty lucratively, so that might offset some of that. OK, one
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Representative Nicole Clowney Unverified 1:11:03
more follow-up, certainly. It's not exactly, um, actually the money on that piece that I'm concerned about its space just because it's something I hear so much about from my county. Uh, but I guess, speaking of my county, and this will be my last question, um, but I remember a lot of talk about the 287G program, way back when. Why isn't it best to just sort of let it leave it up to the counties, um, whether they want to participate in that program rather than going this route. Well, I think
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 1:11:29
what we're trying to do is have a statewide policy for this. Members, any other questions?
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:11:40
Seeing no further questions, we do have an individual signed up to speak against this bill, Mr. Rosensweig, if you'll come to the
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end of the table, you'll be recognized to speak against the bill. Jeff Rosenwa, Arkansas Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, the problem with this
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bill, it says it criminalizes a person is illegally or unlawfully in the United States but does not give a def definitions which presumably would be under federal law. A big problem we're going to, uh, you're going to have on this, which you know from the headlines recently. is does a person have notice that he is illegally or unlawfully in the United States. Now, obviously, if, if a person has, you know, swum the Rio Grande and jumped over the Trump wall, one would, you know, presumably know that. But what about the person or the people who have a student visa and all of a sudden the student visa is revoked the day before and he doesn't have notice or what if a person again, person thinks he's or the, the green card is revoked and he doesn't have notice. What do we do about those? We have a problem when a state is essentially trying to enforce enforce federal law, and we don't even have we don't have a statutory definition and or require that the person have notice that he is illegally or unlawfully
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here. Members, any questions for Mr. Rosensteig? Seeing their questions, thank you for your comments this afternoon. We have no one else signed up to speak for or against the bill. Representative Kavanaugh, you're recognized clothes for your bill. Thank you,
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Representative Frances Cavenaugh Unverified 1:13:38
members, as I started out with this bill, it really just trying to accomplish the three things, um, we've covered those. I think that it's a good bill to start and we made a promise that we would make Arkansas safer, and that's what this is attempt to do is to make Arkansans safer in their own state. And with that, I would
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appreciate a good vote. Members Representative Kavanaugh has closed her bill. We have a motion to pass on the table. Is there any discussion of the motion? Seeing no discussion or in favor of the motion, please say aye. And he posts say no. The eyes have it, you've passed the bill. Thank you, members. Appreciate it. Members, we're going to, I have two senators in. And we're going to go to Senator Tucker first and then Senator Bryant after that. Uh, so Senator Tucker, you're recognized. Well, you have two bills, Senate Bill 485 and Senate Bill 575. So whichever two, which one do you want to take up first. Members, let's turn to Senate Bill 485. Senate Bill 485, Senator Tucker, you're recognized. Come in the table, identify yourself and present your bill.
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:14:50
Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm gonna, I'm going to defer to my, I'm, I, I'll participate as much as the committee would like for me to, but I'm going to defer to the House sponsored Representative Gazaway, and with, with your permission, Madam Chair, we're going to invite Estrella Lopez from the CSU Justice Center to come up and join us. Ms. Lopez. Yeah Jimmy, do you want me to start or on just a second.
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Represent Gassway, we're bringing you a copy of
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the bill. I've, I've got it pulled up now. If. and gas why
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if you'll identify yourself, you're recognized. Thank you, Madam Chair of
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified 1:15:46
State Representative Jimmy Gazaway, District 31. Members of Senate Bill 485 is the act to reduce recidivism, as many of you may recall under the Protect Arkansas Act. Uh, we did several things which increased criminal penalties for Certain offenses and particularly reformed the what we termed our broken parole system so that those convicted of the most heinous crimes, the 18 most heinous crimes in Arkansas law would have to serve 100% of their time. Others 53 crimes would have to serve 85% of their time, and then there were some other categories. That was all in an effort to be tough on crime, but as a part of the Protect Arkansas Act, we also realize that we have an obligation to try to reduce recidivism. And so for the last 2 years we have convened a recidivism task force, I believe Chairwoman Dalby's been a member of that. I, I was a member of Senator Gilmore was the chair. Senator Tucker was a member and As a part of that task force, we brought in the Council of State Governments to study how we can effectively implement. policies to reduce recidivism in Arkansas. As many of you know, we have one of the highest recidivism rates in the country. And it's important if we're going to control our prison population. Uh, and help the people of our state that we bring down our recidivism rate. And so we've studied that for the last 2 years with the help of the Council of State governments, Australia Lopez is here has flown in today to help present the bill, and I think she can give you probably a better outline than I can of all of the ideas that we came up with that are part of this bill to help reduce recidivism in Arkansas and with that, Madam Chair,
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:17:36
I would ask that Ms. Lopez be recognized. Lopez. If you'll identify yourself for
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Speaker 166 1:17:41
the record, you're recognized. Thank you. My name is Estelia Lopez, and I'm with the Council of State Governments Justice Center, um, the council state government's justice centers and national nonpartisan nonprofit, and as has been said, we've been working with Arkansas since 2023, providing support to the legislative recidivism reduction task force. Uh, the task force was established to answer some key questions including identifying the drivers of the state's recidivism rate, assessing how effective supervision policies are, and identifying unnecessary barriers to reentry into society. Under the leadership from legislators and DOC leadership. We had an opportunity to look at data from across the Criminal justice agencies' visit different offices and facilities and engage in hundreds of conversations with stakeholders from all corners of the state representing all aspects of the criminal justice system, and this bill is a reflection of the task force's work. Arkansas's prison population is high. As of July of 2024, it was the highest it's been in 10 years despite experiencing significant decreases during the pandemic at the same time, the state's recidivism rate is also high. Um, for people that left prison in the 2014 to 2016 cohort. Of those individuals would return to DOC custody within 3 years. Arkansas relies heavily on community supervision. 59% of felonies resolved to probation and over 75% of the nearly 91,000 people under the DOC's Correctional control are in the community rather than in a facility. However, in speaking with community supervision agents, officers, supervisors, and individuals who are under community supervision, it became clear that the community supervision system is severely underresourced. There are high caseloads, inconsistent uses of evidence-based practices and limited resources that really constrain the ability that supervision officers have to impact people's behavior and that far too often ultimately results in the intervention of incarceration, which is far more costly. Through the task force's work, we found that from 2014 to 2023, on average 72% of prison admissions were individuals who were under community supervision by the DOC in the form of either probation or parole at the time. This bill represents an opportunity to meaningfully improve supervision practices in order to reduce recidivism and increase public safety. The bill will ensure that valuable supervision resources are focused on higher risk individuals and that the tools and practices being used in community supervision are ones that have evidence to support that they actually work, and this will also ensure that there is consistency across the system. Thank you for the opportunity to speak on
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:20:45
this bill. Thank you, Ms. Lopez. Members, are there any questions? Seeing their questions. We have no one who signed up to speak against the bill, ever seen Gasway, you're recognized clothes for the bill. Thank
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified 1:21:00
you, Madam Chair. And again, this Bill makes a number of A number of changes with respect to kind of how we're doing things, particularly in the prison system with regard to evidence-based practices. That we're going to implement and that was a big part of the PTECT Act that we implement evidence-based practices which have been studied extensively now by council of state governments in our prison system to help reduce recidivism and then provide kind of post-prison resources for Uh, those who are released from our prisons so that they can be successful and not reoffend and end up in prison again. And so that was the goal of this bill, and I want to thank and and Praise the Council of State Governments Australia and her team for the hours and hours that they invested in Arkansas, as she said, going across. The entire state. She came to Northeast Arkansas, visited with, um, several stakeholders in Northeast Arkansas. They covered central Arkansas, Northwest, southeast, southwest, really the entirety of the state to gain perspective and to develop the best strategies to reduce recidivism, and it's just been excellent work and it's been an honor to work with them and also Senator Tucker, Chairwoman Dalby, we had members of the Attorney General's office. We had judges from around the state. It really was. A collaborative effort and so I just want to thank everyone who was involved in that. I think this is a good bill, and I think when we implement these strategies, I sincerely hope and believe that it will reduce recidivism in Arkansas. And so with that, I'm closed for the bill and make a motion to pass. Members, we have a motion to pass
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:22:34
on the table. Is there any discussion of the motion? Seeing no discussion, all in favor, please say aye. Any opposed say no. The ayes have it. You have passed the bill. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you. Members, while we have Senator Tucker at the end of the table. Let's turn to Senate Bill 575. Senate Bill 575. We have an amendment on that, Senator Tucker will let you present the amendment. Before we get to the bill. Thank you,
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:23:03
Madam Chair. The, the amendment incorporates a suggestion from DFNA. We're creating a task force to study some of the fees in the justice system. AOC has to have a second member on there, cities and counties asked to add one person on there, uh, so it does that and then everything but the task force we're going to make the effective date July 1st, 2026. I mean that's part of an ongoing conversation with the governor's office and the agencies who are affected. That's, that's the amendment. Remember you've heard uh
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:23:33
explanation amendment where the will of the committee. We have a motion to adopt the amendment. Any discussion of the motion, seeing no discussion, all in favor, please say ah. Any opposed say no. The ayes have it, Senator Tucker, you recognize to present the bill as amended. Thank you, Madam Chair
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:23:50
and members, I don't think I said Clark Tucker, um, Senator District 14. I think anyone, especially those of us who have served on judiciary know that we need some meaningful reform of the fees and the justice system, and this is step one in that process. When it comes to the fees, I really think the two most harmful fees that exist in Arkansas are the installment fee, which we've had a lot of discussion about and also the driver's license reinstatement fee. The reason for the driver's license reinstatement fee is because now if you've had a couple of DWIs by all means suspend the driver's license, but if you get your driver's license suspended for failure to pay your fines and fees, then that prevents you from going. work to pay off your fines and fees, so This is an idea that I stole from Governor Kevin Stitt out of Oklahoma, which is to take special revenue of these fees and, and to turn them into general revenue. The reason for that is because if you try to reform the fee itself, then you have that legislative work to do, but then you also have work to do with the recipient of the special revenue funds in the in the case of The driver's license for reinstatement fee, for example, a lot of that money goes to the Arkansas State Police. Now I want to reform the driver's license reinstatement, but I don't want to take a single dollar away from the state police when I do that. And so this is doing it, this is approaching this in a way that's guarantees that all of those agencies, including the state police in that example, will still get their money. So what we are, we'll be doing, but again we're we're postponing the effective date for a year and I'll explain that. But what we're doing is we're taking all the money that these agencies have been collecting from special revenue. We're going to put it into the general revenue pot. And then we're going to pay those agencies the same amount of money out of general revenue. So we're not actually spending any money, and the agencies that received the special revenue will still be getting the same amount of money that they have been getting. And as I said, this is step one in the process, and even, even if we don't ever take step 2, there is real value in this approach because some entities that receive money, uh, they sustain their own funding by imposing these fees on people, which is a conflict of interest on their part. So if we, if we fund the amount of general revenue, then At a minimum we remove that conflict of interest, but if we come back in a future legislative session, and any legislator, whether it's me or somebody else says, hey, we need to reform this installment fee, then we don't have the administrative office of the court sitting at the table saying, hey, you're cutting our funding, and so that that's, that's the thought process behind it. The reason why we set the effective date for July 1st, 2026. That's, that's when the next fiscal year starts. That gives us a year to make sure we're getting those numbers right. At the end of the day, There's only 2 agencies affected by this bill. The administrative office of the courts and DFNA. DFNA is really a dispersing agency for a lot of the funds that come through there, including the state police, as I mentioned. So we're going to work with DFNA, we're going to work with ALCD to make sure we get in the governor's office and everyone to make sure we get those numbers right, and we'll, we'll set those numbers in the fiscal session this time next year. And in the meantime, we're going to have a task force to look, to look at that issue specifically to make sure we're getting those numbers right and to look at the remainder of the fees and see if there's an opportunity for other reform of those fees, so I've worked extensively with Those two agencies, the administrative Office of the courts and DFNA and the governor's office and other folks on the, including Chairman Dimay of the Budget Committee. There's, there's no opposition to the bill that I'm aware of. You know, we've we've addressed everyone's concerns and accommodated everyone's concerns, and with that, Madam Chair, I'd be happy to take any questions. Members, are there any
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:27:26
questions? Seeing no questions, we have no one signed up to speak for or against the bill, Senator Tucker, you're recognized clothes for
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified 1:27:32
the bill. I appreciate very much you all's accommodation and hearing me today. I'm closed for the bill, and I
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:27:38
appreciate a good vote. member Senator Tucker is closed for bill. What is the will of the committee? Representative Betty, there's a motion to do pass as amended. Any discussion of the motion due pass is amended. Seeing no discussion, all in favor, please say aye. Any posed say no. Thes have it. Congratulations. seeing more, you know, senator, uh, do you want to get to yours real quick because yours is at the top. I did promise him this is Senator Stone's bill. Senate Bill 575 and then Senator Bryant, you'll be on deck to 0, 375 Senate Bill 375 are I correct? Yes, ma'am. Madam Sheriff,
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Representative Kendra Moore Unverified 1:28:29
you'll allow me to have Justin Brasher with the Attorney General's office. Senate Bill 375, it's the third one
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:28:35
from the top of our page. There is an impact assessment. Hang on, give us 30 seconds to see it passed out. All right, Representing more you're recognized to present Senate Bill 375.
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Representative Kendra Moore Unverified 1:29:30
Thank you, Madam Chair, Cols. Jeremiah Moore here, State Representative District 61. Uh, I'll make this brief and simple. Senate Bill 375 proposes putting the penalty of capital punishment on the table for those convicted of child rape, which is defined as forcible rape. to victims that are 13 years or younger. This is not a sentencing mandate. This simply leaves that um for the ability of the justice system to put that as one of its sentences. This does not apply to perpetrators who are minors themselves. You have to be 18 years or older for this, uh, sentence. Uh, this punishment is reserved for the most heinous of child rape crimes, um, and lastly, it is set up to Challenge a current Supreme Court bench ruling from 2008. Uh, this bill was highly written. This bill was greatly written by the Attorney General's office themselves and then a set up for a court challenge. I will note that the only sitting member of that bench from 2008 is just as Alito, who wrote the dissent, um. I'll leave you with this quote before I open for questions, uh, indeed, I have little doubt that in the eyes of ordinary Americans, the very worst child rapist, predators who seek out and inflict serious physical and emotional injury on defenseless young children are the epitome of moral depravity. I will just second
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Speaker 186 1:31:09
what be sure to identify yourself for the record. Thank you. My apologies, Madam Chair. Justin Brasher, senior assistant attorney General with the Arkansas Office of the Attorney General. We were very involved in the writing of this bill and support it. This is as Representative Moore said, targeting the worst of the worst, and we're behind that. The As a former prosecutor myself, any good prosecutor, anticipates what the people against him might say, so to quickly address a couple of things. The first is that yes, there's a 2008 court decision, Kennedy v. Louisiana, which says that this punishment currently is unconstitutional, and we believe that that is faulty reasoning and are prepared to challenge that in court and wrote this bill with that intention, uh, so with that being said, we support this, and I am more than happy to answer any questions. Representing Cloudy, you're
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Representative Nicole Clowney Unverified 1:32:01
recognized for a question. Thank you, Madam Chair. You're good at anticipating questions. Can you, uh, say a little bit more about what you find faulty about the reasoning in that case and how you see this bill as being a potentially effective challenge
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to it. Sure, thank you, Representative. So first, uh, I actually, it's going to build up a Representative Moore said there are 3 members of the Supreme Court currently who were on the court when this decision was written. All three of them were in the descent, including Alito who wrote the dissent. None of the members who were in the majority on that opinion are on the Court any longer. Uh, much of what the majority focuses on the majority opinion focuses on which was written by Justice Anthony Kennedy was Not based in the actual, is this a cruel and unusual punishment under the Eighth Amendment, but much more based on what is seeing today, what are the prevailing standards of today and was based on a survey of what the legislatures had and hadn't done in terms of the death penalty for rape convictions and child rape convictions. There was a case before Kennedy v. Louisiana called Coker that was 20 or so years prior that held that rape that the death penalty for an adult rape was unconstitutional. Many people read that as saying also that a child rape was unconstitutional and therefore there were legislatures and there's a lot of this in the dissent held off putting the death penalty in place for for child rapes. So at the time that this case came before the court, there were 6 states that have the death penalty in place roughly. I mean, the The count was in flux because as we know, legislatures are passing things and rescinding things, but roughly 6. And the court felt that that meant that the we were currently trending away from the death penalty for child rapes and therefore the standards of our society were such that that was considered a cruel and unusual punishment. That was a major part of the court's reasoning, and we both don't think that it held up at the time, and we think that we're in a different position now to argue that. Uh And so that's a major part of what we think was faulty about the court's reasoning and what we could challenge in a court challenge if that answers your question, Representative, thank you.
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Representative Nicole Clowney Unverified 1:34:24
Um, and Um I would, I, I appreciate why you're pointing out that only 3 members of that court are still alive, but I would hope that we don't see Supreme Court decisions as only lasting as long as its members are alive and then we get to look at everything again and new, right? I mean, that's not really the way that it works. I guess if we want to talk about standards of decency, um, and I'm, I don't have the case in front of me, so I apologize, Justin, but um what I guess we're just seeing, we're certainly seeing a global trend away from the death penalty. I know that the United States is the only civilized country that still uses it um, what do you think specifically has changed in the standards of decency analysis. I know that you said you disagreed with it in the first place, but that seems a different argument than you think things are different now. Can you just articulate why now you think this, this would
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Speaker 186 1:35:21
meet that standards of decency test. Sure. Sure representative. So first, the 3 of the 3 of the 4 of the justices, I should say, including the three that are still on the court disagreed that our standards of decency were going that way to begin with. Um, and so currently, How are you looking at standards of decency. One might look at standards of decency as we're trending away from the death penalty. You look at that globally. Another perspective might be the standards of decency includes what are we doing for the victims of these crimes. Stands of decency might be, and this is articulated in the dissent. San of decency might be that we're providing justice for the individuals who are harmed in such a brutal way such as this. One quote I want to go to is the decision in Coker, uh, which is the, the case that held the rape of an adult. Uh, was you could not have the death penalty for the rape and of adult included this quote when saying that it wasn't as bad, so, so to speak as a murder or a homicide. So that for the victim of a rape, life may not be nearly so happy as it was, but it is not beyond repair. And I think that that reflects a really shortsighted view of the harm that someone who goes through something like a rape or child rape is inflicted upon them, and this is even the decision in Kennedy tries to kind of distinguish away from this and say that we don't really feel that way, but that goes to our renewed the understanding that we have of the mental anguish that someone goes through, not only mentally but physically and emotionally and everything that goes along with that has only increased from the 80s has only increased from 2008 going forward, and with that, I think as a society our opinion of what is just and what is decent both in the treatment of the individuals who commit these crimes and the victims, I think Cannon has changed. You need another
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Representative Nicole Clowney Unverified 1:37:19
follow up real quick. This one will be quick. Yes, that's fine. Thank you, um, and thank you. I know these are, um, This is not just one but two really hard topics, obviously talking about child rape is incredibly hard and sensitive, and talking about using the power of the state to take somebody's life is as well, and so with that I think I just have one more question, which I think is pretty straightforward, um, and you may have said this, Representative Moore, I'm sorry if I missed it. Are there other
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Representative Kendra Moore Unverified 1:37:45
states that do this, and if so, can you tell me how many? Yeah that's correct. Thank you, Representative Clowney. You are right, and this issue should not be taken lightly. It's very serious and weighty, and I take it very seriously myself, um. Tennessee and Florida have both passed similar statutes in recent sessions. Members, any other
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:38:08
questions? Seeing no further questions, we have a couple of individuals who have signed up to speak against the bill, Mr. Parish, you recognized to come in the table, Mr. Rosenwa, you want to join him. If whichever one wants to go first, if you'll identify
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Speaker 137 1:38:30
yourself, you'll be recognized to make your statement. Jeff Rosenwa, Arkansas Association
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Speaker 138 1:38:35
of Criminal Defense Lawyers. Well, uh, the sponsor and Mr. Brescher do concede that under current US Supreme Court law, this bill is unconstitutional. It may change, it may not. We don't have any. way of predicting that, but it is in fact unconstitutional as it currently sits. The pro there are several problems with the bill. One is the number of cases of alleged child rape. Most of them come in terms of numbers, most of them come out of nasty divorces. It is rare to see an allegation where a child is taken and into the woods or a field and brutally raped. Uh, that's not, that's not what the criminal justice system sees. What the criminal justice system sees more often than not is some child is is quoted as claiming that fathers, stepfather, uncle, or someone did something. something to them. That is the vast majority of the actual cases that the system sees. Unlike a murder case where you have a dead body. You don't necessarily have any physical evidence in one of these cases. Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. Hearsay is child hearsay is permitted, and you can end up with a, uh, with a conviction for this despite the fact that the child is not even called as a witness. I could go for hours about how the Arkansas Supreme Court has messed up a number of issues such as access to the counseling records or the or the therapy records of the alleged victim. I won't get into that. Uh. But also also the reality is a lot of these cases are not investigated by law enforcement. They investigated by the child advocacy Center who are not law enforcement or they're investigated by DHS, which is not law enforcement or investigated by CACD, although part of the state police are not certified law. Enforcement officers. They're they're essentially people who were brought over from DHS for the most part. Then you will also have the problem and Mr. Parish can talk about this. You're going to need tons more certified criminal defense lawyers certified in death cases because there will be a huge need and they're, we're not, you're not going to have the people. You're simply not going to have the people with the number of cases that you that you're going to be facing and I would suggest very strongly that you know if you this case needs to be sent be sent to interim study turned down, sent to interim study or something like that, and we'll see if Mr. Brasher's prediction
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Speaker 193 1:42:03
about what the Supreme Court's going to do comes, you know, Comes true
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Speaker 128 1:42:10
or not. Mr. Parish, you recognized. Thank you, Madam Chair Greg Parris, Arkansas Public Defender Commission. I won't
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expand too much further on what Mr. Rosenzweig said, but I'll give you some indications as to the financial impact. And I base this on the numbers from 2023, calendar year in 2024, and these numbers are from the administrative office of the courts. There were 163 capital felony cases filed, capital murder cases in 23, 176 in 2024. That's statewide for a total of 339. Death is presumed in a capital case unless and feel it is waived by the prosecution. That's by statute 1687306. The only thing that could prevent it is maybe the defendant is under the age of 18 or some other situation. But if you just take one half of those 339 cases. And I will tell you we're going to catch 98% of them because no one has 6 figures to defend a capital murder case. We catch them. But I have to appoint two death qualified attorneys as long as death is being sought. Mandatory. I have to appoint an investigator and I have to appoint a mitigation specialist. I have to provide for experts. And I will tell you alone right now in the state of Arkansas. I think we have, and I may be overly conservative. No more than 40 attorneys statewide qualified to handle a death case. And again It is presumed until waived. We just recently had a case. It's still ongoing. It is 3 years old. where death was just waived. I can't tell you the amount of money we spent on that case. Because we have to Because the federal law says we do, and if we don't, The prosecution will be retrying that case again. Maybe not in 3 years, maybe 8, 10 or 15 years. And I know Jeff has experience on cases that have come back, uh, 20 years later. And that is horrendous on everybody, especially the victims. That's all I have. Thank you, Madam
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:44:45
Chair. Members, any questions of these two individuals? Uh represent Gaway, you're recognized. Thank
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified 1:44:54
you, Madam Chair, and I agree with Representative Moore that this is one of the most serious if maybe not the most serious issue, this committee. considers the death penalty and whether or not and how we punish individuals by death in this state. One of the issues, and I think I heard Mr. Rosenwa touch on this is proportionality. And I think I also heard Justin from the Attorney General's office touched on the, the concept of proportionality, and he referenced a quote from a case where they said in rape that Basically there was hope of recovery, whereas in a murder case, you've taken someone's very existence. You've taken their life, and death is as far as we know, is an irreversible condition. And so There's this concept of proportionality. It's somewhat of a philosophical argument, but Mr. Rosensweig, I'd like you to touch on that in terms of in a murder case. Someone is died and so a proportional punishment may be the death. That would be the death penalty because you have someone who's died in these cases, and I'll say I'm, I. I do think we have to move beyond to some degree what a person deserves, and I'd like to hear you touch on this too, because a person who's Truly committed A child sex offense like this deserves to be Chinese tortured and And worse, I mean they deserve the worst of the worst punishment we could give them if you want to know about what they deserve, but we don't always give people what they deserve and so I'd like to hear you talk about number one, proportionality. And How that
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factors into these decisions. Well, you know, we're getting into all
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sorts of philosophy here, obviously, but for instance, look, look at the murder statutes, the homicide statues. We note we have different uh uh uh levels of culpability there capital murder and first degree, second degree manslaughter, negligent homicide because the legislature has recognized that not all Homicides are, you know, are the same, the same would obviously be true in this in this situation, but you're going to have even more so the problem of getting to getting to the truth in these matters, Mr. Mr. Representative Moore, Mr. Brash. quoted the quoted the Justice Alito. I'm going to quote Justice Scalia, and I believe Coy versus Iowa, where he said, where he was talking about the confrontation clause to determine if a child has been coached by a malevolent, a malevolent adult. I can guarantee you that is a huge number of these cases that end up in the judicial system, whether they're found guilty or not guilty or or or what happens. is is cases that are obviously they come out of divorces, they come out of uh relation uh broken relationships. There is no requirement of physical evidence in a murder case, you have a dead body. There's no requirement of physical evidence and and the chances of a bad conviction of an innocent person are so much higher in this area. Uh, then in almost any other area of the law because of the lack oftentimes of any sort of physical evidence and the questionable circumstances in which in which a number of these cases arose. Obviously there are some cases. There are some cases that you clearly have the, the person, you know, the the person that's kidnapped the child and taken the child into a field and But, and whatever that person right now is sentenced to life. Already he'll never be out on the street again because he'll never get a commutation, never get clemency. But you're not going to run the risk, the risk of that innocent person being sentenced, being sentenced to death. I have a, I have a case that I've tried to help on for years where the children were were were uh essentially pressured by DHS that their father had raped them, and it took a year for them to to claimant, he was then convicted. I didn't represent them at the trial, but they are now adults and they came forward and swore in depositions. I, uh, you know, he didn't do anything to us. follow up. You recognized for a
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified 1:50:16
follow up. Thank you, Madam Chair. And so, you know, again, my question to you was about proportionality and the difference between in a murder case we have someone who's been killed. We have someone who's dead, someone who's very existence has been taken and so if one we're going to argue for the death penalty, they may say that the death penalty would be a proportional sentence for taking someone's life because it's Essentially, you know, equal to the act that they did, but in these cases. No one's life has been taken and so there's some argument, and I'm not necessarily making that argument to be clear, but I think the argument is, is that someone didn't die and so to put someone to death wouldn't be proportional. Is that fair to say? Yeah, that would be, that would be fair to say I'm sorry I didn't catch what you're saying, but I also want to be clear in these cases. Does a person deserve to be put to death? Yes, probably, and probably worse, in fact, they probably deserve to be Chinese tortured and then put to death. It, but the, but the point is we have a judicial system and part of that equation is proportionality and that those are questions that we have to weigh, but what I think I heard you talk about was that the risk of wrongful convictions in These types of cases and correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall and I prosecuted several of these cases, to be clear. I've put people in prison for child rape, so nobody knows better than me, but The law is that the uncorroborated testimony of a victim or of a person standing alone in these types of cases without any other corroborating evidence is sufficient to sustain a conviction. That is correct. And so unlike a murder case where you have to produce the dead body. You have to uh prove multiple elements, the uncorroborated testimony alone is sufficient to sustain a conviction in which I I take it to be your argument that uh vastly increases the risk for wrongful convictions and these types of cases. Is that your argument? Yes, it is. It's one of my. All right, and there are others, but uh. I'll get back in
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:52:34
the queue. Thank you. Representative Betty, you recognized
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Representative Howard M. Beaty, Jr. Unverified 1:52:38
for a question. Just, um, and thank you, Madam Chair. Uh, my question is for Mr. Rosen Swagg. A couple of times you, you, you keep mentioning um as far as most of these, most of these cases, something that coming out of a divorce or parental relations. So my question is, um, is the violent rape of a child more or less severe perpetrated by a parental unit or some random act of violence. You know,
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Speaker 138 1:53:10
the the vets, that's not the point I was getting at. Clearly if it happened, it doesn't, it's severe no matter what happened, uh, no matter who did it. The point that I was trying to make is that these cases, the these allegations almost always arise out of a turbulent domestic event. And is representative Casaway said the the what there is no requirement of any proof that anything physical ever happened. It doesn't necessarily will not necessarily manifest itself, and there is no requirement that there be any manifestation of it, unlike a murder case where you have a dead body in the medical examiner said this person. was shot or stabbed or whatever happened to him. You don't even have that. You don't even have that here. And that's, that's the problem we have and the question is, are we going to, or are we going to throw these cases these cases into the death penalty capital murder, system. You need a follow up? Well, I, I just want
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Representative Howard M. Beaty, Jr. Unverified 1:54:35
to follow up. I mean, I understand, you know, you just said allegations, but you know, the death penalty is not going to be in, in enforced on an allegation, it's going to be enforced on someone who's been adjudicated and found guilty. So again, what ifs compared to something that's actually gone through the
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Speaker 138 1:55:01
judicial system, being adjudicated by judge and jury. Well, the, the problem is, is that the the The death penalty system, of course, has been A startling number of capital cases where someone has been sentenced to death have been have been subsequently a person that's been the conviction has been subsequently reversed. The sentence has been subsequently reversed and you know, a number of states have had a lot of exonerations. We haven't had the number of exoneration. here that other states have. I think we should have more than um than what the courts have given us. I don't know if I've answered your
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Speaker 203 1:55:51
question sufficiently, but, uh, just 11 follow up. Hurry, last one.
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Representative Howard M. Beaty, Jr. Unverified 1:55:59
I got you. So, so my, my final question is, would you feel that um In in your position. Death penalty in capital rape is a crime would be a deterrent to someone committing this
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Speaker 138 1:56:16
crime. You know, You know, I, I, I, OK, uh, get the whole question is whether, whether the death penalty is a deterrent at all. Some people believe it is. Some people believe it isn't. For instance, the homicide rate is higher in states that have the death penalty then in states that do not. So the the question in in death, you know, in, in murder cases is more tends to be More what was the level of the offense in these cases it's did it happen at all? I just say it'd be a heck
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Speaker 203 1:56:52
of a deterrent. Is that a question?
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 1:57:03
Representing Gassway, you recognized for a question.
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified 1:57:06
Thank you, Madam Chair. So there is the issue of deterrence. That's one of the justifications for why we have the death penalty, and that's a hard, would you agree with me that that is a hard A Uh That's a hard element to capture. It's a hard, uh, Hard Hard to capture whether or not there's how much the death penalty actually deters any crime. The social science has a hard time determining that. Is that fair? It
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Speaker 138 1:57:39
is because there's uh you're getting into all sorts of issues of human psychology, and it's, it's, uh, it's, that's a hard one to, you know, a hard one to answer. Hard to know
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified 1:57:52
how many people didn't do something. It's impossible. to know really it's
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Speaker 138 1:57:57
the only, the only thing that we have really in in this regard is the fact that the uh that states that have the have the death penalty tend to have higher homicide rates now that there's a chicken and egg problem, uh, there to some extent, but we don't know. OK. And then I
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified 1:58:19
guess, you know, another point. Talk about Reporting. So Oftentimes these cases rely on people coming forward and, you know, I've praised the child victims and their families so many times for having the courage to come forward, uh, because it, it certainly takes tremendous courage for a victim of this type of abuse to come forward and report. Sometimes it's a family member that will report on a loved one, and that takes also again tremendous courage, but if they know death, the death penalty is on the table. Would that possibly discourage reporting? It's possible, depending
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Speaker 139 1:59:01
on the particular circumstances of the case, it
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Speaker 138 1:59:08
could it could, in fact, and you could end up also uh, you know, and if particularly of the of the uh child who realizes at a certain age that he or she has been the been coached or, uh, wrongfully if the if the person is executed, the amount of guilt. that person might have or guilt internally feel it might be, of course, overwhelming as one might expect. All right. Last
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified 1:59:39
point and I'm then I'm done, Madam Chair. If you don't mind, thank you. Again Does a person who has committed this type of atrocious act deserve the death penalty. In my opinion they do. And they deserve worse than the death penalty. I think it's uh again more of a philosophical question for this committee as to whether under the circumstances. Given our judicial system and a number of factors whether or not it would be appropriate. In the past, our, our judicial, our judiciary, including the United States Supreme Court has said that it's not. Is that correct? Yes, the, the,
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Speaker 138 2:00:17
the Supreme Court held held in Coker, a number of years ago, that uh that it was violated the Eighth Amendment with regard to adults and then held, I guess Kennedy was Close to 20 years ago, 17 years ago or so, um, uh, you know, that, that extended that to uh to The child situation. And apparently there is someone's going to try to get a case up there, I guess that's the tenor that I got from them. We don't know if that's gonna happen or or if uh what will happen or not because there are members of the Supreme Court who believe in precedent. Uh, even if they didn't agree with the original. Uh, with the original decision.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:01:12
All right. Fair enough. Thank you. Members, any other questions? Seeing no further questions, thank you, gentlemen, for Being at the end of the table and taking questions, Representative Moore, you're recognized to come and close for your bill. Thank you,
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Representative Kendra Moore Unverified 2:01:28
Madam Chair. Members, I'll make this brief. I'll mention two points that were brought up in testimony. Uh, the first was the topic of nasty divorces. I'd like to point out that that's a red herring and has nothing to this has nothing to do with ambiguous claims. This does have to do with claims that are litigated in court that revolve around what are called aggravating circumstances, and they are necessary for capital cases, um, the ones listed in this bill are on pages 12 and 13, and the prosecutor still has to charge. The case capital and ask for the death penalty. The second is the quote, you will need a ton of a ton more defense lawyers if this bill is passed. Um, I'm just gonna be the first to say that cost should not be a concern when it comes to justice. Um, moreover, the death penalty is waived on 98% of capital cases in Arkansas roughly, um. And there are about 3 full-blown capital murder trials a year in this state, give or take. Um In closing, I could tell you about a number of grotesque and purely evil examples, uh, of these unfortunate circumstances, but I don't want to be one for a performer of politics, so I'll just leave you with a quote from Justice Alito's dissent. The rape of any victim inflicts great injury, and some victims are so grievously injured physically or psychologically that life is beyond repair. The immaturity and vulnerability of a child, both physically and psychologically adds a devastating dimension to rape that is not present when an adult is raped. Long-term studies show that sexual abuse is grossly intrusive in the lives of children and is harmful to their normal psychological, emotional, and sexual development in ways which no just or humane society can tolerate. From 1976 to 1986, the number of reported cases of child sexual abuse grew from 6000 to 132,000, an increase of 2,100%. By 1991, the number of cases totaled 432,000 an increase of another 227%. In 95, local child protection services agencies identified 126,000 children who are the victims of either substantiated or indicated sexual abuse. Nearly 30% of those child victims were between the ages of 4 and 7. This is a serious issue and it should not be taken lightly. Having heard all the testimony and read the bill, with that, I would ask for a good vote and I make a motion to pass. Members, we
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:04:04
have a motion to do pass on the table. Is there any discussion of the motion? Seeing no discussion, all in favor of the motion, please say aye. I'll oppose say no. I have it. Members were now turning
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Speaker 212 2:04:17
OK, roll call. a shepherd. Representative Shepard. Represented Eubanks. Representative Ebanks. Representative Tosh Representative Tosh, yes. Representing Gonzalez. Representing Gonzalez, yes. Represented Gazaway. Represented Gazaway. Representative Crawford. Representative Crawford. Representative Clowney. Representative, no. Representative Collins. Representative Collins, no. Representative Evans. Representative Evans, Representative McCullough. Representative McCullough, no. Representative Springer. Represented Springer? No. Representative Beatty represented Beatty, yes. Representative Hudson. Representative Hudson. more represented more. Yes, represented brown. Representative Brown, I. Representative Unger Representative Unger, yes. Representative Richardson. Representative Richardson, yes. Representative Pierce. Representative Pierce, yes. Representative Underwood, Representative Underwood, yes. Cha votes yes.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:05:51
The bill is passed. Members We're going to turn to 427. Senate Bill 427. Senator Bryant, if you'll identify yourself, you're recognized to present Senate Bill 427. Thank you. Thank you,
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Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified 2:06:21
Madam Chair Joshua Bryant, Senate District 32. Members, if you look at your at your sheet there, there's 6 bills, they're all related to human trafficking, and what I like to do is set up the context. That will apply to all 6 of them. Uh, in the room, we've got the attorney General's office, got prosecutors association. We've got the division of State Police, which is all members of the Arkansas Human Trafficking Council had to set the context up in 2002. The state received an F on our human trafficking initiatives for the through the Shared Hope International scorecard. Upon taking office, Governor Sanders instituted through executive order in Arkansas Human Trafficking Council. And that council had the mission of to prevent trafficking, to protect victims and to prosecute criminals. And what they found is while all of our law enforcement and prosecutors have the mission to end human trafficking and to help victims. um, when they work on island individual through their individual organizations, there's a lot to be lacking. And so what the What the partnership did through the Arkansas Human Trafficking Council as they got the Office of Attorney General of the Department of Human Services, the CID division of Oregon State Police and the Department of Public Safety. Department of Human Services, Department of Health, Children's Advocacy centers, uh, representatives from our University of Arkansas system. Uh, health care, mental health professionals, forensic experts, victim service organizations, they basically got a whole bunch of people in the room, and they started to look at how the state was addressing these issues. And so the conclusion or the result is looking at how other states are doing it better than us, how as, as these courts were adjudicating the the, the, the issues, how victims protective services were treating the victims resulted in a package. of legislation in order to help increase how we deal with human trafficking in the state of Arkansas. So just looking at Uh, Senate Bill 427. There's three main goals the Senate Bill 427 to strengthen the legal definitions and closing loopholes, meaning that we are going to expand definitions to cover modern forms of prostitution, facilitation, including in digital spaces. We're going to remove outdated language and restructure the offense categories, meaning we're going to take first offenses up, 2nd offense is up, and 3rd offense is up a level. We're also going to enhance penalties to defer to deter offenders. Uh, based on severity, and then lastly, we're going to have business accountability and crack down on at least on illicit operations within businesses. The prior laws did not penalize the the businesses directly. That knowingly permitted and facilitated prostitution and what Senate Bill 427 does is it provides a direct liability for business owners, owners and managers with escalating license suspensions and monetary fines for those that permit prostitution on their premises. So with that, I'll be glad to take questions on Senate Bill 427. Members, any questions? Seeing no questions,
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:09:37
we have no one who's signed up to speak for or against the bill. Senator Bryant, you're recognized to close your Senate Bill 427. I'm closed, Madam Chair. I appreciate a motion members Senator Bryant has closed for his bill will of the committee, we have a motion to pass on the table. Is there any discussion of the motion, seeing no discussion all in favor, please say aye. And the opposed say no, the eyes have it. You've passed Senate Bill 427. Members,
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Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified 2:10:04
let's go to Senate Bill 428. 428, uh, Joshua Bryant, state Senate District 32. Members of Senate Bill 428. The, the goal, so currently in statute of limitations for these types of crimes are 5 years. Uh, they toll up until the age of 18 before that clock starts. What this bill will do is match federal law at 10 years for the statute of limitations for victims of human trafficking. So with that, I'll be glad to
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:10:31
take any questions. Members, are there any questions? Seeing no questions, we have no one signed up to speak for or against the bill. Senator Bryant, you recognized clothes for your bill. I'm closed. Appreciate a motion to pass, members. Senator Bryant's closed. We have a motion to do pass on the table. Is there any discussion of the motion? All in favor of the motion, please say aye. Any opposed say no. Tys have it. You have passed Senate Bill 428. Thank you, Senate Bill 429. Joshua O'Bryant state Senate District 32.
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Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified 2:11:01
Uh, Senate Bill 429 has three purposes. The first being to mandate no contact orders and human trafficking cases. The second to ensure human trafficking victims have specific rights. And third, to expand criminal records ceiling for victims of human trafficking. Looking at the um mandatory no contact orders current law, the court may may issue a no contact order. The amendment will require courts to mandatorily issue a no contact order. The amendment will require courts to mandatorily issue a no-contact a no contact order in all cases where a defendant is charged in human trafficking. That being I can give examples of that, but we'll look at uh Key provision number 2 to expand victims' rights. Basically we're going to put the defined human trafficking offense as a crime under the Human Trafficking Act of 2013. We're going to expand the definition of offense against a minor to include human trafficking crimes where the victim is a minor and clarify the victim to include human trafficking victims in addition to victims of sex offenses, violent crimes, and crimes against minors. And lastly, the ceiling criminal records of trafficking. We're going to amend the code to allow victims to have their criminal records sealed if they were convicted of prostitution as a result of being trafficked. And so with that I'm I'm glad to take any questions members, any questions? Seeing the questions, we have no one
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:12:18
signed up to speak for or against the bill. You recognized clothes for your bill. I'm closed. I appreciate a motion to pass. Members Senator Bryant has closed for his bill. What's the will of the committee. We have a motion to pass on the table. Is there any discussion of the motion, seeing no discussion, all in favor, please say aye. Any posts say no. The ayes have it. You've passed Senate Bill 429.
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Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified 2:12:41
Let's go to Senate Bill 4:30. 4:30. Joshua Bryant, Senate District 3. Senate Bill 432 has a purpose to require mandatory restitution for victims of human trafficking and to amend the Arkansas Crime Victims and reparations Act. What it would do is require any person convicted on human trafficking to provide restitution for its victims. Specifically medical and psychological treatment, necessary living costs, legal and court-related expenses, property damages, relocation expenses, and other losses. Um If there are some eligibility considerations the at the victim's return to their home country or absence from the state does not, does not disqualify them from receiving restitution. there were Amendment to the Arkansas Crime Victims Reparation Act extends the claim filing deadline from 1 year to 5 years after the injury or death. The exceptions of the board may allow claims for a good cause, and if the victim was a minor at the time of the crime, they have tolling up until the time they turn 18. With that, that is Senate Bill
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:13:52
430. Members, we have no one who's signed up to speak for or against Senate Bill 430. You recognized clothes for your bill. I'm closed committee. I
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Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified 2:13:58
appreciate a motion to be passed, members. Senator Brian is
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:14:01
closed for his bill. We have a motion to pass on the table. Is there any discussion of the motion, seeing no discussion, all in favor, please say aye. Any opposed say no. The ayes have it. You have passed Senate Bill 430. Let's move to Senate Bill 431. You're recognized. Thank
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Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified 2:14:19
you committee Senate Bill 431. Joshua Bryant state Senate District. 32 Senate Bill 431 proposes amendments to the Human Trafficking Act of 2013 to include the removal of statute of limitations for certain human trafficking related offenses and the creation of safe harbors for miners involved in crimes and the prohibition of Uh, child sex dolls. So the elimination of statute of limitations for certain offenses to include sexual extortion, trafficking of persons, patronizing a victim of human trafficking and traveling for unlawful sex acts with a minor. And then the, uh, Make sure I'm on the right bill here. I believe safe harbors is a different bill. I apologize for that. So this bill has 22 key provisions, and one of which I just mentioned to removal of statute of limitations in the second, the prohibition of child sex dolls, making it illegal to possess transport, distribute, or manufacture child sex dolls to define a child sex doll as an automaly correct doll, mannequin, or robot resembling miner's intended for sexual use and establishes the penalties for such actions. So with that, I'm glad to take
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:15:42
any questions, any questions? Representative Collins, you're recognized for a question?
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 2:15:47
Thank you, Madam Chair. So no statute of limitations. I, um I guess I'm mostly just wondering about this grooming of minor for future sex trafficking. Um, can you tell me the elements of that because I, I guess I'm thinking. A lot of these are more black and white. They're, they're more distinct grooming is, you know, a It's a different thing to prove and so if you're starting this, you know, and the victim is. 50 years old and they were 15 at the time this happened. I just want to make sure I understand the elements that they're going to be trying to prove regarding grooming a minor. For future sex trafficking. Understood, Representative Collins,
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Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified 2:16:31
what I'd like to do is ask, uh, Arkansas State Police, the uh the coordinator of the human traffickings task force to join me at the table.
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:16:49
If you'll identify yourself, then you can answer representative Collins's question.
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Speaker 229 2:16:59
Thank Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh, Senator, um, excuse me, uh, Sergeant Matt Foster, Arkansas State Police. This bill doesn't change anything with that grooming statute, uh, we can, I can easily look it up real quick in the codebook and read to you that grooming statute, but just extending that statute of limitations, uh, for that grooming of a minor and I think I can get on the uh codebook and
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 2:17:31
look it up if you want me to representative. Well, yeah, mine is not working because the internet right now, but um I think maybe it's a a question about, and you're not a prosecutor, but is there any concern about making the case and having the evidence and having the confidence to start a criminal prosecution. decades potentially after the alleged events when it's something so Uh, indistinct is grooming, and I'm assuming it's indistinct. I don't really remember all the elements of grooming, that's, that's why I'm trying to get at what are they and uh is there any concern about
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Speaker 212 2:18:09
them being in distinct. So to give you the facts of how I would investigate that. I would, uh, gather search warrants for
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Speaker 229 2:18:16
digital data. So we have retentions through different medias, social media accounts, things like that, cell phones to where we can go look back to, but as, as you know with those retentions, you, you lose a lot of your data throughout time and so then you have to rely on testimony of the
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 2:18:41
victim. Follow up, please. You're recognized. If I remember right, this committee has looked at removing the statute of limitations for rape over the years and rejected that because of these issues of proof and time elapsing, is that right? do you know if rape is among the Crimes for which prosecution may be commenced at any time, or is that off that list?
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Speaker 188 2:19:05
That is not on this list, and I was just able to pull up the citation 518106
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Speaker 229 2:19:09
for grooming of the traffic victim if you want me to read that real quick for you, if you would. Uh, a person commits grooming a minor for her future sex trafficking if the person only grooms a minor with a purpose to make it more likely that the minor can be enticed or induced into a future sex trafficking act with a person. And then grooming a minor for future sex trafficking as a Class B felony. OK, and we feel like we can
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 2:19:39
prove that decades later. You'll have to based on the evidence, so that's what
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Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified 2:19:53
I would say and reps, we have, uh, the prosecutors association here if you think we need to address the intent, uh, at the committee worked together to craft this amendment. I would
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Representative Andrew Collins Unverified 2:20:03
be interested if a prosecutor representative could speak to that point. Laurie Welcome You've
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:20:11
been here since 10 o'clock this morning. That's all right. We're with you. If you'll identify yourself for the record, and I think you've heard representing Collins inquiry and if you can speak to those,
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Speaker 240 2:20:26
yes, Madam Chairman, members of the committee, I'm Laurie Camuris. I'm the deputy prosecutor coordinator and in answer to your question, Representative Collins, um, anytime I, I think you're getting at the statute of limitations issue and proof, and I know when we have now extended it in sexual assault cases. And it's the kind of situation where in some cases it would be very difficult to prove because you wouldn't still have the evidence, but in some cases there might be the evidence. And so, um, And in the past that was an issue, but those statutes of limitations have been extended in some cases, and I think, uh, as Matt was saying that, uh, depending on the evidence and the proof that was given for the bribery if there was sufficient evidence, it would allow prosecution in those cases, so it would give us another tool in the appropriate case. Thank That gets you question
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:21:27
answered. calls. Thank you for coming to the end of the table. Any other questions? Seeing no further questions, we have no one who's signed up to speak for or against the bill. So you're bright, you recognized clothes
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Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified 2:21:42
for your bill. I'm clothes for this bill. I appreciate
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:21:45
a motion. Member Senator Bryant has closed for his bill. We have a motion of do pass on the table. Is there any discussion of the motion? Seeing no discussion, all in favor of Senate Bill 4 of the motion, please say aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it. The motion carries, and that bill has Senate Bill 431 is passed. Let's go to Senate Bill 442.
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Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified 2:22:08
Thank you committee Joshua Ryan, State Senate District 32. Senate Bill 442. Wait a minute, we
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:22:12
have an impact statement. Sorry, Senator. Hang on just one moment. Yeah. There you go. That All right, Senator Bryant, you're now recognized to present Senate bill. Um, where are we? Senate bill? 44, thank you. I turned my page over
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Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified 2:22:58
442. Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh, members, Senate Bill 442. The bulk of the bill is to address the asset forfeiture for human trafficking cases and working with the prosecutors association, the trafficking council has mirrored the language for the drug forfeiture cases that are handled in the state. This gives a, I believe the testimony was this is the 2nd most profitable, uh, Crime activity produced in the state and the, the, the ability for them to stop human trafficking rests greatly on the ability to seize the assets used in the commission of these crimes. It also creates the Arkansas Human Trafficking Council support funds. There are existing funds that were on the books through the Arkansas Human Trafficking laws of 2013. They were not really used, I think $88 was in one account. This would consolidate and create a new fund for the fines that were applicable to the other cases as well as asset forfeiture to Basically be part of to go into to continue the funding sources for the Arkansas Human Trafficking Council support fund or funds collected from the human trafficking prostitution convictions, asset forfeitures, legislative appropriations, and donations for the permitted uses of housing advocacy, social and legal services for trafficking victims grants to nonprofits to assist them training software and law enforcement equipment. Prohibited items being vehicles or emergency equipment. Additionally, Senate Bill 442 creates the crime of harboring an endangered runaway minor. Um, we did amend it in the Senate to make sure that for those in showing good cause or good faith to, you know, block them from harm or not prosecuted. This is for those intermediaries that hold the victim. Now while waiting on the crime to occur. Um, and lastly, increased financial penalties for human trafficking related cases. And established the human trafficking operations unit within the Arkansas State Police, and that is the intent of Senate Bill 442. I'd be glad to take any questions. members, any questions? Seeing their questions,
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:25:16
we have no one signed up to speak for or against the bill. Senator Bryant, you're recognized clothes for your bill.
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Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified 2:25:24
I am closed for the bill. I appreciate a
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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified 2:25:27
motion to pass. Members, we have a motion to pass on the table is there any discussion of the motion? Seeing no discussion of the motion, all in favor of the motion, please say aye. Any opposed? I have it. Senate Bill 442 is passed. Senator Brian, I know you have a couple of more, but those were your, those were your trafficking bills and uh looking at this, you have members of this committee that are on Your next couple of bills, so we're going to take those up Thursday morning. They're here. I mean, they're going to be here. You won't have to run down, we've got them. So, with that, We appreciate you waiting through Senator for us. Thank you. Senator Collins, do you need to talk with outside of the you know right, members were at I would consider the witching hour. We're tired. We've been here. We've done a lot of work today. I would like for us to adjourn if that's not a problem, because here's what we're going to do, starting off first thing Thursday morning, if I can get us in here early, we'll come in early. But if not, we're going to start with Gonzalez Senate Bill 3 342 we'll start right there at the top and we're gonna work our way down and you're the first one, you'll be the first one up. None of these pills that I'm aware of have any amendments they're coming over from the Senate, so that shouldn't hang us up. We'll just start in. On the Senate bills. I've counted them. I think that uh we can get through them. I've had people text me, tell me how super noncontroversial their bills are tonight. I've seen y'all lie to me before. Those noncontroversial bills turn into an hour down the road. no. yes, represent Clowney. So just to be clear, we're just going to go through in order of the Senate bills? Yes, we're going to start on page one, the first bill that we'll have up on Thursday will be Senate Bill 342, and we'll just go right straight down the row. We have some house bills that were heard. What's today Tuesday last Thursday and it's possible that we could get to those house bills Thursday after we hear the Senate bills, um, and if so, we'll take them up, but we're under the gun and chairs have been instructed to hear Senate bills from here on out, the best we can, and so that's what we're going to do. We've got to take those Senate bills up if we have any time left over, we'll take up those house bills, but those house bills will not be able to make it through all the way. to the Senate. So if anybody is listening that has a house bill that's left on this on our agenda, you may want to consider putting it into an interim study and handle it that way because the chances of you getting through the Senate are probably going to be very slim. Are there any questions from the committee? Seeing the questions, I do want to say to the committee publicly how much I appreciate the fact that y'all hang in there. You, you stay, you stay through it, you hang in, you work at it. When you go and run a bill, you come right on back, and I really appreciate the hard work that this committee does and has done. So with that, let's be adjourned so we'll be rested and we'll come back Thursday morning. Thank you. We are adjourned.
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Number Sponsor Subtitle

SB302 Gilmore TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF GIFT CARD FRAUD; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.

52:52

SB314 Irvin TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING SEXUAL SOLICITATION; AND TO AMEND THE PENALTIES FOR THE OFFENSE OF SEXUAL SOLICITATION.

52:55

SB375 Stone TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF CAPITAL RAPE; AND TO AMEND A PORTION OF ARKANSAS CODE WHICH RESULTED FROM INITIATED ACT 3 OF 1936.

1:34:59

SB342 A. Clark TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING INJURIES TO CERTAIN ANIMALS BY DOGS TO AUTHORIZE TREBLE DAMAGES.

SB435 Irvin TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF AGGRAVATED ASSAULT UPON A HEALTHCARE WORKER; AND TO DEFINE "HEALTHCARE WORKER" REGARDING ASSAULT AND BATTERY.

SB364 Hester TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING VIOLATIONS AND PENALTIES RELATED TO CONTRACTORS.

SB313 Irvin CONCERNING FORENSIC MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATIONS AND TREATMENT; AND TO PROMOTE AND IMPROVE EFFICIENCIES AND QUALITY IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES.

56:01

SB277 J. Bryant TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE CRIMINAL RECORD SEALING ACT OF 2013; AND TO PERMIT THE FILING OF A NEW UNIFORM PETITION TO SEAL A MISDEMEANOR VIOLATION OF THEFT OF PROPERTY AFTER TEN YEARS HAVE ELAPSED SINCE THE THEFT.

SB457 G. Leding TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE RELEASE FROM PAROLE OR POST- RELEASE SUPERVISION OF CERTAIN PERSONS WHO COMMITTED CRIMES WHEN THEY WERE UNDER THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN.

HB1178 R. Scott Richardson TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE CONTRACTING OF A MUNICIPAL ATTORNEY; TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING SUMS COLLECTED BY DISTRICT COURTS; AND TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING COST SHARING FOR DISTRICT COURT EXPENSES.

0:32

HB1057 R. Scott Richardson TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING POSSESSION OF A FIREARM BY CERTAIN PERSONS; AND TO PERMIT THE RESTORATION OF THE RIGHT TO POSSESS A FIREARM TO A NONVIOLENT FELON.

2:10

SB325 A. Clark TO AMEND THE ARKANSAS JUVENILE CODE OF 1989; TO AMEND THE CHILD MALTREATMENT ACT; TO AMEND THE LAW REGARDING REINSTATEMENT OF PARENTAL RIGHTS; AND TO AMEND THE LAW REGARDING THE CHILD MALTREATMENT CENTRAL REGISTRY.

SB326 A. Clark TO AMEND THE ARKANSAS JUVENILE CODE OF 1989 AND THE CHILD MALTREATMENT ACT; TO MODIFY GUIDELINES FOR A JUDGMENT MADE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF A CHILD; AND TO AMEND PROCEDURES AROUND REPORTING CHILD MALTREATMENT.

SB459 G. Leding TO AMEND THE MINIMUM AGE NECESSARY TO ADJUDICATE A JUVENILE DELINQUENT.

SB355 J. Bryant TO AMEND THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF OBSTRUCTING GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS.

SB487 Irvin TO AMEND THE LAW ON THE DESTRUCTION OR EXPUNGEMENT OF JUVENILE DELINQUENCY RECORDS.

SB490 Irvin TO ALLOW A COURT TO WAIVE CERTAIN FEES WHEN A JUVENILE IS ORDERED TO REGISTER AS A SEX OFFENDER.

HB1978 Gazaway TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL JUDGESHIP TO THE SEVENTEENTH DISTRICT OF THE STATE DISTRICT COURT SYSTEM.

26:20

SB426 Hester TO CREATE THE DEFENSE AGAINST CRIMINAL ILLEGALS ACT; AND TO ESTABLISH ENHANCED PENALTIES FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO COMMIT SERIOUS FELONIES INVOLVING VIOLENCE.

1:07:48

SB427 J. Bryant TO AMEND PROMOTING PROSTITUTION OFFENSES; TO ENHANCE THE PENALTIES FOR PROMOTING PROSTITUTION IN THE FIRST, SECOND, AND THIRD DEGREE; AND TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF PROMOTING PROSTITUTION AT A BUSINESS.

2:08:57

SB428 J. Bryant CONCERNING A CIVIL CAUSE OF ACTION FOR VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING; AND TO PROVIDE A STATUTE OF LIMITATION PERIOD OF TEN YEARS FOR A VICTIM OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

2:10:03

SB429 J. Bryant TO EXPAND THE SEALING OF CRIMINAL RECORDS FOR VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING; TO PROVIDE THAT VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING HAVE CERTAIN RIGHTS; AND TO PROVIDE A MANDATORY NO-CONTACT ORDER IN A HUMAN TRAFFICKING CASE.

2:11:01

SB430 J. Bryant AN ACT TO REQUIRE MANDATORY RESTITUTION TO BE AWARDED TO A VICTIM OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING; AND TO AMEND THE ARKANSAS CRIME VICTIMS REPARATIONS ACT.

2:12:51

SB431 J. Bryant TO AMEND THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING ACT OF 2013; TO ELIMINATE THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR CERTAIN OFFENSES; TO CREATE SAFE HARBORS FOR VICTIMS; AND TO PROHIBIT CERTAIN SEXUALLY EXPLICIT PRODUCTS THAT RESEMBLE A CHILD.

2:14:20

SB442 J. Bryant TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING HUMAN TRAFFICKING; TO PROVIDE FOR FORFEITURE OF ASSETS USED TO CONDUCT HUMAN TRAFFICKING; AND TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF HARBORING AN ENDANGERED RUNAWAY CHILD.

2:22:10

SB449 Dees TO PROVIDE CIVIL IMMUNITY FOR CONFISCATION OF ALTERNATIVE NICOTINE PRODUCTS, VAPOR PRODUCTS, E-LIQUID PRODUCTS, TOBACCO PRODUCTS, AND CIGARETTE PAPERS FROM A MINOR AT A SCHOOL.

49:09

SB511 B. Johnson TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF AUTOMATED TELLER MACHINE IMPAIRMENT.

SB512 B. Johnson TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING ROBBERY AND AGGRAVATED ROBBERY.

SB513 B. Johnson TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF MAIL THEFT; AND TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF THEFT OR UNAUTHORIZED REPRODUCTION OF A MAIL RECEPTACLE KEY OR LOCK.

SB514 B. Johnson TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF A SKIMMER; AND TO INCREASE PENALTIES FOR THE UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF A SKIMMER FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS.

SB537 Gilmore TO CREATE THE EARNING SAFE REENTRY THROUGH WORK ACT; AND TO CREATE A SENTENCE CREDIT PROGRAM FOR A PERSON ON PROBATION, PAROLE, OR POST-RELEASE SUPERVISION TO EARN TIME CREDITS THROUGH EMPLOYMENT; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.

SB539 Gilmore TO UPDATE AND CLARIFY CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THE LAW REGARDING THE DIVISION OF COMMUNITY CORRECTION AND THE DIVISION OF CORRECTION; TO CLARIFY REFERENCES TO COMMUNITY CORRECTION CENTERS; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.

HB1953 Torres TO PROVIDE FOR A SURCHARGE TO BE ASSESSED ON INMATE PHONE CALLS TO OFFSET THE COSTS OF SECURITY NEEDS ASSOCIATED WITH INMATE COMMUNICATIONS.

SB555 J. Scott TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE OFFENSE OF VIDEO VOYEURISM; TO EXTEND THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR THE OFFENSE OF VIDEO VOYEURISM; AND TO MAKE AN ORDER OF PROTECTION AVAILABLE TO A VICTIM OF VIDEO VOYEURISM.

HB1678 Long TO AMEND THE ABORTION-INDUCING DRUGS SAFETY ACT TO INCREASE THE CRIMINAL PENALTIES AND CLARIFY THE CIVIL PENALTIES.

HB1885 Barnett CONCERNING LAW ENFORCEMENT; AND TO REQUIRE A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER INVOLVED IN A DEADLY USE OF FORCE INCIDENT TO BE PLACED ON TEMPORARY LEAVE AND ATTEND THERAPY.

HB1948 Joey Carr TO AMEND THE CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH THE OFFENSE OF NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE IS COMMITTED; AND TO REPEAL THE ABILITY OF A PROSECUTING ATTORNEY OR DEFENDANT TO SUBPOENA CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS BEFORE A HEARING OR TRIAL.

SB485 C. Tucker TO REDUCE RECIDIVISM; AND TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE SUSPENDED IMPOSITION OF A SENTENCE, PROBATION, PAROLE, AND POST- RELEASE SUPERVISION.

1:14:51

SB488 Irvin TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING WHEN A JUVENILE IS CONSIDERED TO BE ADJUDICATED DELINQUENT.

SB575 C. Tucker TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING INSTALLMENT FEES COLLECTED IN CIRCUIT AND DISTRICT COURTS; TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING DRIVER'S LICENSE REINSTATEMENT FEES; AND TO CREATE THE JUSTICE SYSTEM TASK FORCE.

1:22:53

SB590 Gilmore TO CREATE THE RECIDIVISM REDUCTION SYSTEM WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.

SB597 B. Johnson TO CREATE THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE OF THREAT OF HARM UPON A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION EMPLOYEE.

DEFERRED BILLS

Number Sponsor Subtitle

HB1033 McCullough TO CREATE THE "ARKANSAS RED FLAG LAW"; AND TO CREATE AN EXTREME RISK PROTECTION ORDER AND WARRANT.

HB1141 R. Scott Richardson TO CREATE CRIMINAL OFFENSES RELATED TO DECEPTIVE AND INJURIOUS MEDIA IN THE COURSE OF ELECTION CAMPAIGNS.

HB1136 Achor TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE CRIMINAL RECORD SEALING ACT OF 2013; AND TO PROHIBIT A COURT FROM GRANTING A UNIFORM PETITION WHEN A PERSON IS SUBJECT TO AN ACTIVE WARRANT OF ARREST.

HB1430 K. Moore TO AMEND THE DEFINITIONS UNDER THE DOMESTIC ABUSE ACT OF 1991.

HB1431 K. Moore TO AMEND THE DEFINITIONS UNDER THE DOMESTIC ABUSE ACT OF 1991; AND TO PROHIBIT THE ISSUANCE OF AN ORDER OF PROTECTION ENJOINING A PARTY FROM ENGAGING IN COURSE OF CONTROL OR DISTURBING THE PEACE EX PARTE.

HB1481 Long TO CREATE THE ANTI-ATF COMMANDEERING ACT; AND TO PROHIBIT THE PROVISION OF MATERIAL AID AND SUPPORT FOR ENFORCEMENT OF FEDERAL FIREARMS LAWS.

HB1535 Duffield TO PROVIDE AN ENHANCED SENTENCE FOR PERSONS CONVICTED OF RAPE OF A CHILD TWELVE YEARS OF AGE OR YOUNGER; TO PERMIT THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS TO ADMINISTER MEDROXYPROGESTERONE ACETATE TREATMENT FOR CHEMICAL CASTRATION.

HB1553 Ray TO REPEAL THE PROHIBITION AGAINST THE SALE AND DISTRIBUTION OF NOVELTY LIGHTERS.

HB1655 Long TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF HUMAN SMUGGLING; TO CREATE THE OFFENSE OF HARBORING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

HB1473 Pilkington TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING HEALTH-RELATED CASH DISCOUNT CARDS.

HB1676 Womack TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING GARNISHMENT AGAINST THE STATE OR A SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE; AND TO ALLOW FOR INCOME TAX REFUNDS TO BE SUBJECT TO GARNISHMENT BY JUDGMENT CREDITORS.

SB321 J. Bryant TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE STATE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE FUND.

HB1823 Duffield TO ESTABLISH THE DISRUPT EXPLICIT FORGED IMAGES AND NONCONSENSUAL EDITS ACT OF 2025; AND TO CLARIFY THE RIGHTS FOR AN INDIVIDUAL AFFECTED BY NONCONSENSUAL ACTIVITIES INVOLVING INTIMATE DIGITAL FORGERIES.

HB1765 Underwood TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING DOMESTIC BATTERING IN THE THIRD DEGREE; AND TO AMEND THE OFFENSE CLASSIFICATION ENHANCEMENT BASED ON PRIOR ACTS.

HB1871 Gazaway TO REQUIRE A PERIOD OF INCARCERATION FOR DEFENDANTS WHO REPEATEDLY VIOLATE THE TERMS OF THEIR PROBATION OR SUSPENDED SENTENCE.

HB1664 K. Brown TO AMEND "QUINCY'S LAW" CONCERNING PHYSICAL EXAMS AND OTHER TESTING IN AN INVESTIGATION INVOLVING ALLEGED ABUSE UNDER THE CHILD MALTREATMENT ACT; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.

HB1306 Furman CONCERNING CIVIL IMMUNITY FOR A CHURCH OR OTHER PLACE OF WORSHIP; AND TO PROVIDE CIVIL IMMUNITY FOR VOLUNTEER SECURITY PERSONNEL IN A CHURCH OR OTHER PLACE OF WORSHIP.

HB1754 Gonzales TO CREATE THE PRIVATE PROPERTY PROTECTION ACT; AND TO PROHIBIT CERTAIN PROPERTY USE RESTRICTIONS BY GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES.

HB1663 K. Brown TO PROHIBIT AN AWARD OF ALIMONY OR TERMINATE ALIMONY FOR A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN FOUND TO HAVE COMMITTED AN ACT OF CIVIL OR CRIMINAL DOMESTIC ABUSE WHEN THE VICTIM WOULD BE THE PAYOR OF ALIMONY.

HB1947 Clowney TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE OFFENSE OF POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA.

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Representative Carol Dalby Chair Unverified
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Representative R. Scott Richardson Unverified
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Daniel Shue Unverified
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Representative Cindy Crawford Unverified
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Representative Jimmy Gazaway Unverified
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Senator Clarke Tucker Unverified
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Representative Kendra Moore Unverified
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Senator Joshua Bryant Unverified
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