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And. Things that we. Of finance and government on the back of fines and fees always concerns me is is there is a given initiative. To step that up at some point in our citizens I thank would be concerned about that too so I appreciate you enter that question thank you Mr. Any other questions. Thank you Mr bleed if the no other questions those items will stand reviewed will move to agenda item city. These are approval items thank you Mr chair section see begins the approval items the first section see one is the very simply appropriation requests. The first item is a letter from the department public safety division of Arkansas state police this is request increase appropriation by two point six million it is being thirty will allow replacement of vehicles because would be supported by restricted reserve transfer and that request to transfer funds is later in the agenda. The next item is the letter from as the tech it's requests increase appropriation by four point seven million this is being twenty will allow final payments for completion of the Arkansas fire training academy dormitory this request is also supported by transfer from the restricted reserve fund and I request to transfer funds will also be later in the agenda. All right have a seat forty five. Representative. Thank you Mr chair this question is for Department public safety the. The two point six million four. Replacement vehicles. state police. To have someone here. Okay. Welcome colonel right and if you would identify yourself for the record please. Thank you Mr chairman bill bride rector the Arkansas state police. Did you hear the question current kernel Ryan I know Sir I just walked in I was talking to the ledge right outside represented Dotson has question all right so the this is regarding the new replacement vehicles and it's asking us to use restricted reserve funding for this. for a. Aging fleet do we not budget for vehicles to be they are the special types of vehicles or is this don't we have over a recurring budget for that. Thank you I represent Dawson just a little history on it before I came the director the state police the only source of funding for our vehicles was either AG Solomon funds a rainy day funds in a couple years ago we actually starting any three million dollars a year due the recent budget cuts because of cove it we lost that three million dollars for this year so that's why we're asking for the replacement okay that makes sense so Have we looked at building that into your budget for going forward for the next couple years yes probably when the the governor came and talked to all that three million dollars he talked about was gonna be for vehicles to put that money back in okay so that that that's part of the budget request for the next biennium yes Sir that's correct okay great thank you Mr chair and represented also when we get to the transfer or that they've got actually the the vehicle sodomized by the types that they will have a number so we have that see number forty five. All those you okay well I had to have another one that went away them because I thought I had to at one time or any other questions almost on the item C. one. It's not entertain a motion to approve of those items I have a motion second any discussion all in favor say aye. Pose no that motion carried those items approval moved to see to. Thank you Mr section see tear the cares appropriation requests. The first item is a letter from the department of finance administration this is the disbursing officer it's request increase appropriation by five million and is being thirty will out the from eight to process payments for state agencies for pre approved code nineteen related expenses and Mr chair we also have those care to question the supplemental agenda and the first one is on the third page that agenda which I can go room once more yes please. Supplemental a one is also for disbursing officer it's requesting Peace appropriation of four hundred thousand it is being at thirty will allow the department to process for in person requests for you a mess according to the letter you Amos is working with the Arkansas department of parks heritage in tourism and the Arkansas department of health when a public education push to slow the spread over nineteen. The next item is supplemental aid to the also disbursing officer and this request to increase preparation by fifty million the news be thirty will allow the department to process the payment to the unemployment insurance trust fund. Mr those with the character questions these gender. The culture vulture recognized thank you Mr chair can someone can tell me about the educational push to slow the spread of covert nineteen and what that four hundred thousand dollars is going to be used for. Area of identify yourself for the record please. Element day DFA I will I will certainly try to explain the additional money is for to increase or two in to continuing to increase the awareness campaign as we go into the winter two to make people can. Keep them aware of the fact that we need to keep up our basic safeguards against a preventing the spread wear your mascot and washer hands and just to continue also to make sure that we do everything we can to support our businesses and and helping them create maintain environment where they can continue to operate and stay safe and I mean I understand that's what they're gonna do but how is it going to be done. Pardon how is this going to be in how is the money going to be actually says yes Sir it'll be a coordinated effort between the department of health UAMS and FOR parks your tuition tourism as I move forward with the business interruption grants. I don't know that he answered it but okay thank you. Any other questions. Of seat nine. The fifty million the. Okay Senator bond you're recognized. Well I'd like to have a discussion and I have a motion on the fifty million from the unemployment trust the. In the care that committee we discuss this I don't know if anybody Sir to address it. There's twenty six states who have taken a essentially a non charge on the fifty million and status on the experience ratings and so I guess we will hear from commerce on that are you. And Why are we not. Doing a non charge like twenty six other states on the fifty million for the second quarter experience ratings so it's my understanding the governor to do that by executive order even why are we choosing to take this money out of the carriage act funding now and move it over to the unemployment trust it is center right up apologize I'm not the person who can answer that question I defer to the department of commerce or for services if there's somebody in his or someone here probably the commercial work for services. We can certainly court communicate with them and. To get an answer for that. Ms Preston would you identify yourself for the record. Thank you Mr chairman Mike prestin secretary of commerce executive director of the DC you're recognized respond thank you senator for for the question of an option would be an executive order on this to issue a non charge issues we run into with an executive order when the order expires the pandemic is over emergency is over then the that order goes way and the rates within increase on the businesses so essentially by doing that if we you know then came into the legislative session and offer to fix in this is specifically for the second quarter of charges it doesn't make up the difference in the trust fund essentially be kicking the can down the road because eventually those funds are gonna be have to be made up by the businesses at some point so at some point the future those businesses will re experience some type of rate increase to make up the difference by transferring this the additional fifty million completely satisfies that second quarter and allows us to not to the the same. You mentioned the other states on looking at the one two three four six eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen additional states have done with Arkansas is attempting to do here and that is make up the difference by using cares funds proportionally looking at Alabama dated three hundred million I will four hundred and ninety million Mississippi hundred eighty two million the list goes on and on South Carolina five hundred million part of that is to be in I think we're fortunate in Arkansas that are trust fund is in a good position that we're able to do this and offer this is an option to our businesses have we not carefully budgeted thanks to the legislature and throughout trust fund we wouldn't be in a position to do that and those states that issued the non charge at some point they're gonna have to make of that those funds with the be a borrowing from the federal government or charging that back to the businesses. So what is the balance in the unemployment trust fund as we sit here today I'd do not look at it this morning and looking back we can probably get you an exact number I'm gonna say somewhere around seven hundred million maybe give or take we can probably look that up pretty quickly though we weren't six hundred twenty five million when the legislature approved the an additional hundred sixty five million so we've already added a hundred sixty five million you say that eventually the businesses would have to make it up the legislature as you know the legislature could fix the statute and essentially make the non charge permanent for second quarter but we're just making a choice not to do that right we are choosing to spend cares that money even though we have a huge balance and are you I trust fund that's what we're we're making a choice to do that as opposed to doing other things like health bars and restaurants or help teachers or help others other things that are in great need support our schools were choosing to do this well I'm not I'm not trying to make it and you know you have to do this or that are fitting you know one one group against another this is. What we would need to do is a state if we would want to issue a complete non charge and not have to wait for the second quarter of twenty twenty and not have to worry about the business is picking up I don't want to make this you know the of business trust fund issue versus some other you know very worthy cause out there these are the factors is related to the trust fund this is the recommendation that came from the care steering committee to transfer the additional fifty million. But you agree with me that we could choose of the governor could choose he has the authority to issue an or an executive order have the non charge put in place and then the legislature if it's so choose can come chose can come in in January and make sure the businesses are not there in spirit experience ratings are not increased that could we could do that the you could do that but that does not take care of the issue of the funds available in the trust fund eventually it's going to have to be made up I mean businesses will be charged for the rest of the year going into Q. three the numbers tropic it's significantly better going from about two hundred ten million to about ninety million in Q. three so it gets better but is this addresses the issue of actually funding the trust fund and keeping that balance a stable balance into our trust fund. By going that alternative route it does not address that what's the highest our trust fund is ever been right in the last couple of years Senate about where we are now at the would would have been free pandemic I don't know what what point in history or point out waving around eight hundred million probably going up a little higher than that. What's that eight seventy eight so we're we're near record highs that's all I have Mister chairman I think yeah I have a motion of the proper time on this issue if I can be recognized thank senator bond will come back to you for that let me move to seed eighty. Of thank you Mr chair of I have I agree I think are a high water mark is eight fifty eight seventy and we built it up over the years of I agree with senator bond I I I'm I'm I'm at a loss here of we can fix this in in in January the legislature but we're choosing and and again twenty six other states if you choose to use the money for other things that we don't have the ability to for instance the given every teacher in this this state who is facing hazard pay and staff five hundred dollars would we could we could do that in in lieu of the S. and take this up in January of Mister president of the even though that were maybe a a hundred million down from a high water mark over the last. At least four years we have been in such a a positive position. in our unemployment trust fund that we have actually cut the rate to employers in this state correct yes Sir. So I have enjoyed and certainly the hard work that you have done in bringing in jobs in and and retaining jobs the state all lead to that but the but our businesses have have enjoyed cuts in unemployment insurance over the last few years I think we need to think of carefully about the use of this fifty million dollars because in some ways I see this is we're right here at the end and this is the easiest thing to kick in and to and take advantage of instead of thinking through it and utilizing it for of things that we might not be able to again we can fix this problem in the legislature and it is Mr president so that the governor has the executive authority to wave that second quarter and we can take it up of hopefully the pandemic is is will be over next year and when we can take this up in the legislature and fix this of would you agree Mister president. Thank you center yes I I agree that the legislature has the ability or the governor has the ability to do the executive order to issue the non charge and then to center bonds point they could go back in readily actively do it the difference is that does not make up the the funds in the trust fund I'm looking we did the projections would be at Q. one twenty twenty one based on the current spend rate in the trust fund down to six hundred thirty seven million dollars if we do not make that transfer so well it's been in a good position we have been able to you know cut cut the rates in years past on on businesses there is just so many impacted during that second quarter of of twenty twenty I guess making the case you're not for for the businesses you know twenty six thousand of them had experience claims during that second quarter this little out all those businesses to not have any experience charges which to the senator's point can be issued however it would not make up the difference in our funding in our balance in our trust fund and I don't want to have to come back in you know next year when we we don't have cares fund or anything available to say we're gonna have to eventually make up those funds and raise the rate at a future date down the road this will allow us to completely satisfy it for that twenty twenty Q. two now we can continue to look at ways that we can fix it for for Q. three because there's no guarantee there it could go up into Q. three so you know regardless I think of what of what is the decision on this and and making the transfer we do need to address that for for Q. three and beyond because centers what we don't know when a pandemic is going to be over will we see another spike in unemployment we hope not hope we will continue to get folks back to work but is it mean even at six thirty seven we're bumping up against all time highs in the trust fund of some of those that are or that have been around a bit remember when we. were two hundred million in their arrears to the federal government and worked hard to get this trust fund built back up and in the dead and in the did in such a manner that our businesses in the last two maybe three sessions of have enjoyed when we we've cut the of of the Mr president if I remember right. Haven't we cut the number of weeks of eligibility for unemployment insurance in the state of Arkansas from twenty six to sixteen weeks. The. That's correct one verify that and whenever I find that that is also if I'm not mistaken the lowest in the country would would you see if you could verify that for me. If you would identify yourself for the record and then you can respond. Sh raise children first director division of art for services. The question I believe was the number of weeks of run employment. Is that correct yes yes hi sixteen weeks is the number of weeks in Arkansas that was the I'm not sure what year the the number of weeks was reduced another was legislation in the twenty. That I've is a twenty fifteen session and that's when the changes were made to the The calculations I think we cut it for that twenty six to twenty five and then the sixteen in its latest so not only we cut the. So so we've cut it to sixteen and then the follow up was is that the lowest in this in the in the United States for a number weeks for unemployment insurance Senator Inc Ingram I'm not I'm I'm not. Of familiar with the number of weeks for other states to have looked at that in the past but I would be A I'd rather look to make sure I do not believe that we are the lowest okay well I believe that we are so if you check that the and we'll find that out gladly thank you. Senator Murray three yes Sir Senator hammer. Thank you Mr chair just to be clear on the non charge issue is that option that is afforded the states by the federal government or is that an option that was created by the stage and offered up to the federal government. So on the nineteenth of those states have that option to to do a by statute so we don't have the ability statutorily that's what would have to come back in the session to to change your legislation here. And even though it's your statement that even though a state may use that as a temporary fix it's not a long term solution because adventure lead some point the government's going to come back and ask for the for the funds is that correct eight it some point yes those funds are gonna have to be made up in into the trust fund as I said we're we're down to six hundred thirty seven million and and Q. one and what's the. Urgent seven to seven thousand to ten thousand yes Speaker okay just one minute the. Construction okay the. The. As as far as the as far as the amount that's in the trust fund now. What are the advantage what are the advantages to it being built up verses. By holding what we have or even allow it spend down what's the benefits to the employers. The benefits that employers is that there anyone does twenty six thousand businesses that have a lay off and are expecting a an experience claim an increase in the rates I will for twenty twenty one will be capped at the current rate going into twenty twenty one. All right and do you know of the twenty six states that are using the non charge and then the other ones that are using their cares ACT money to address the problem because it it sounds like it's a of a principle of philosophy as far as which what you want to go about addressing the problem do you know if there's any overlap that the twenty six states that are using the Kerr that non charge option are also using cares ACT money or the two totally separate groups yarn I'm not sure on the the twenty six that senator bond speaking of the the ones I'm familiar with the that are using cares money or Alabama Georgia Iowa Maine Mississippi Montana Nebraska New Hampshire North Dakota South Dakota South Carolina Tennessee and West Virginia but you don't know if that's the if they have that option or not those are just the ones that we've looked at for that is used okay Mississippi is to involve. They're Mississippi's them both yes me. Yes Sir okay if you would I'd like you to send me. Anything around that non charge as far as you know what the terms are of it just so I can read it for myself if you don't mind if you twenty all could fund that get sent to me I'd appreciate yes Sir thank you thank Mister. Senator rice you're recognized. Thank you. Disbursements to order I like Mr children did then you give testimony law by combat we were having pretty wide swings In in dollars the. They're in recent months Being used for FOR unemployment. I'm sorry Senator I don't understand your question what's wide swings in about our balances with was going up and down quite a bit is what I thought I remembered and have but let me go back to the article that I thought I read on this if we didn't do this the fifty million and in employers who already teetering in in trying to work through the pandemic restrictions and all this was going to be a possible pretty big hit on them would that be right miss press yes Sir and and Houston in fairness to say yeah the unemployment rate has come down for those with planted it feel like it was too high we we felt like it should come down and I do greatly missed senator Ingram that we we were in a bad shape it one time and it is much better now but it it won't necessarily stay that one I'm very concerned about putting more on any of our business is the the that's not necessary and and there's I know it's been a five all the way through for the carriers that people do to find out you know where the best place to put money years but this this is something affects all way across Arkansas goes down the fact in an employee also we get sick checker week that we've kept employed by working hard at it drown keeper thank you. Representative Dotson. Thank you Mr chair if if you would refresh my memory on if this doesn't happen in the governor doesn't do a and no charge order what. Happens with the rate what what is it where is that currently and what does it go to. It's so it's do you ida rate is calculated on a couple factors one is the stabilization rate that is going to be held consistent for this year because we put the one sixty five and back and and September the second part of that is an employer base you I tax rate which is determined by the contributions and the claims experience that's we're going to run into the biggest charges that you'll you'll see based on the charges and calculated for the end of twenty twenty second quarter so June thirtieth so the second quarter is going to have a significant impact to those charges so in all in that second quarter twenty six thousand businesses had about two hundred seven million dollars worth claims systems not done those claims charges will be made up to the businesses eight four twenty twenty one so in December when everyone gets their all the businesses get their tax bill for you live for the next year those charges will be required to be paid for that quarter so if I recall you had to the the thing that we did with a hundred sixty five million. Saved it from going from a it was a point two twenty point three yes Sir but this one part of that is one part of it the other part of it where is it at now and what will it go to. As far as the that depended on upon each individual business okay so each one has their own but this on rank by doing this this would cover all twenty six thousand businesses that the rates will be held the same that was last year. Based on key to not those Q. one or something before that before the pandemic in there was you know within the business that changes for whatever reason are the pandemic that's not to be a covered they'll have to make up that difference or self this is strictly Q. two hi the pandemic do we have an average I mean the point two point three as a fifty percent increase that was a as kind of a hard number to seven you know I don't want to give out any business names here but there's one I'm looking at the with the numbers on if no action is taken right now they're rate is point three a many they pay twenty one dollars per employee it will go from point three to three point four so the pay twenty men and twenty one dollars to three hundred forty dollars per employee per per month or per year here for you are you okay thank you so that's a pretty substantial hit to every business that might be in that type of a category yes Sir okay thank you. Representative rye. Commission thank you Mr chair mark this is fairly simple I thank you can answer for the the right right now compared to say this time last year. Is it is there a lot of difference between now and last year's force the right that the employers are having a fight. There's not right now and this would be if we did this this would help the consistent for next year so what they paid this year would be the same for next year it will go up otherwise okay will not this is one other thing I'd like to ask you the total wage base will go but. Dr Childress okay. At the taxable wage base which was asked about earlier all the taxable wage base will go up from of five of what it had been previously from seven thousand to ten thousand is that right to me look at my notes just a minute. Yes from seven thousand to ten thousand and we did report on that earlier this year the taxable wage based is is calculated based on unemployment insurance right so that's the number of individuals that are on unemployment it's also based on the balance in the trust fund used to pay benefits an amount of payments that were paid the previous year so if an employer at a total right at three point one percent and has one employee who earns a total of twenty thousand for the year and is paid five thousand each quarter then the amount due Total in those quarters for twenty twenty would have been two hundred seventeen dollars based on five thousand but it will are based on the taxable wage base being at seven thousand which it was in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one it will go up to ten thousand because of the increase in the unemployment right. Okay is okay sorry I was speaking to a Representative rye don't worry C. okay well one of the question of do you think that if we if we don't county held on to the money that we have on the phone right now do you think it could cause a hardship owner employers. Yes I think so. It's going to cost them more money. Thank you thank you. Representative garner. Thank you very much Mr chair I'm I'm just trying to understand exactly what we're talking about here and one I am absolutely for making sure that we have the trust fund where where it needs to be I've got small businesses I we've had to lay off people PPP did not last long enough all of those kinds of things but what I want to know is that when I'm trying what I'm hearing is that there may be other options for this fund of other options FOR waste to replenish the fund as opposed to not having options FOR hazard pay for for Medical of healthcare workers in the midst of covered in that kind of thing so so the question I'm asking is it are we talking about really the priorities for the carriers act funding. Or are we talking about the fact that this absolutely needs to be done in the cares tech finding is the only way it needs to be done or that it could be done. Also this is what will make the trust fund holders options to issue a non charge that would include an executive order that then we need to be followed on by legislative action that could satisfy a non charge but it will not do anything to make up the funds into the trust fund the only way to make of funds in the trust fund or to put these cares funds into it or ask the businesses to do so by doing an increase on what they're paying so you know I. I understand there's a lot of other options in needs out there in the state in that and I do hate we're down to the last you know kind of scraping the barrel at the that cares fund and I don't want to seem like you know this is bill this versus something else first you know all these other worthy causes out there you know we've we've gone through the one point two five billion it just so happened now we're getting to the end of the line for that cares fund and this is an issue that is now going to be coming up because the December tax bills will be issued here next month so we need to know to give our businesses ample time to understand what they're gonna have to to be made up and that is certainly the option to could be do be done. DO legislatively but there's not gonna be the funds into the trust fund. Thank you very much thank you Mr chair. Senator Irvin. Thank you Mr chair and I just wanted to speak on the because of the issue was actually brought by constituents to Representative Ladyman and Representative Ladyman and I scheduled a small business owners as particularly the ones that came or from great clips they are hair salons that got their bills in the mail and not bills but the reports and the mail and from the second quarter which showed how much money that they were going to then have to pay potentially in January so the phone started ringing I'm sure the you've already sent the but from our situation your we've been contacted to bar constituents and Representative Ladyman brought that to the committee to public health committee which and we held meetings on that so you know that was kind of unfolding at that time and so we recognize that this is going to be a huge huge impact to small businesses in particular expressly those who have been hit so hard because they had to shut down like your hair salons like your gems and and restaurants and so you know for for those folks they didn't want to have to They didn't want to have to you know lay people off but that they had to and now they're going to have to pay a huge portion of that because of their unemployment tax rate and so to me this is this is absolutely what we should have done in the first place you know with the the amendment need for the unemployment trust fund it came second you know after the initial point pot of money came in this came secondly but you know this this is incredibly important I think this is something that a lot of legislators have talked to me about as being on the cares committee years during task force and that something they were very very concerned about and so you know the initial amount of money into the unemployment trust fund and then this fifty million and how that's going to offset that second quarter unemployment hit that happened and that they're going to have to pay for now on the backend and they're just not gonna be able to do it mass bottom line they're not going to be able to pay that bill so we I absolutely support this and I just hope that my colleagues I understand you know constituents of ours brought this to us and we did our due diligence of scheduling them for a committee meeting they came down here they testified and and and that just think it's the right thing to do thank you Mr chair. Senator Bonior the last one in the queue so you're recognized for a question or a motion and may have the what's the lowest projection we have for the trust fund next year are what it what are your projecting not though I mean you said and first quarter of next year the trust fund is at six thirty seven six hundred thirty seven million dollars what's it in Q. two I'd have to get that number to you and I'm looking at you one number thanks for the legislatures concern we thank the trust funds going to be at six hundred thirty seven million dollars. We already added a hundred sixty five. Now out of a limited pot of money to deal with cove and we're going to add another fifty million to a fund balance that we know is going to be six hundred thirty seven million nobody is arguing that the that the businesses should. Be punished for second quarter layoffs what we're saying is we have options to do this a different way and the executive branch of the legislature if we approve this is choosing not to do it a different way that's the issue. And sell out I would move that That we approved the cares act request but for the request for fifty million. In the report remove the fifty million from the report and let a else the vote that separately. Artillery. Try to restate that senator bond do you have moved to approve the items and see including the supplemental agenda with the exception of the fifty million dollars and referred the fifty million dollar request to a L. C. for consideration by the entire body is it said yes any state. All right of. Senator rice you're recognized. I'm sorry now and trying to honor run colleagues wishes of of something different let me offer this is a substitute motion. To split the vote on this if he is asking for the. Approval of the other first and then have the the fifty million as a separate vote in here today. I'm I'm sorry senator rice I was checking one other thing you you are just must. Voting this committee pull it out and voted separate but voted today on the fifty million. All right. I had. I had somebody that a web. I don't have anybody else in queue somewhere else like during Q.. Jett low. Jimmy where you. Senator Hickey. Your. Right now. Yes Sir I was going to make a substitute motion but I just want to have that restated to make sure I fully understand. Exactly what US interested are. Senate right. Let me let me do this let me pull my substitute motion and let me let Senator Hickey explain what he would like to you don't have to do that center but to my substitute motion is going to be to approve the whole report. I'll second the okay thank you. All right. We've exhausted. Our substitutes for which we can help. We have a substitute and we can have a substitute to the substrate and then that's it. So right now we have a motion to approve all those items in situ including the supplemental budget. Are there is a motion does everyone understand. It it's it's not voting the fifty million separately it's not referring it separately to the. I'll see on Friday. Okay so that is the motion is to approve all the items and see to including all of the supplemental agenda these are all the carriers appropriation request. Any discussion. All in favor of the motion to approve all the item say aye. All opposed no no. Your rules at the ayes have it the motion carried those items are approved we'll move to this see three. Thank you Mr C. three are the share services appropriation transfer requests. The first item is for it's a letter from energy environment it's request to make a transfer spending authority from shared services to the division of environmental quality the letter knows the transfer will not increase overall preparation levels for the department the schedules on the next page show the requested transfers. On the six pages schedule shows the department request transferred a total two hundred ten thousand and spending authority from regular salaries in mass on items injured services to the same line items of various appropriation sections throughout the division of environmental quality. The next item is a letter from the department of labor licensing its request to make a transfer spending three two shared services from various divisions within the department to support for positions and cover ran internet copier in associate expenses the weather state the transfer will allow the department to pay a vendor from one warrants as a position eighteen different payments to the vendor for totals owed the scheduling next facials requested transfers. And all that pages schedule shows that a proper request transfer in a total of a hundred ninety four thousand in this building authority this is from various divisions within labor licensing to the department shared services section this year those are the shared services reckless any questions on these items C. three. Not other entertain a motion to approve I have a motion the second. All in favor say aye. Opposed no motion carried those items are approved will move to Adam C. for. Thank you Mr chair see for the section is the for a rainy day fund release requests. And the only items the for a is the request from the department transformations here services this is the letter from the governor requesting a transfer two hundred thousand from the rainy day fund to the division of geographic information systems at the department transformation sure services the letter says the transfer will provide funding for coordinated statewide redistricting re districting system. On the following pages provide more information the project to redistrict legend precinct boundaries in twenty twenty one according to the letter the division of geographic information systems has a statutory obligation to collect public information on precinct boundaries in anticipation of a decennial census I saw for purchase will out for a single statewide redistricting redistricted insects tragi to save time money and avoid potential heirs. All right I don't have any questions I have a motion to approve a motion and second second any discussion all in favor say aye opposed no the motion carried will move to see five these are the transfer of request. Thank you Mr chair OC five this is restrict reserve fund transfer recommendations the first one for the school for the blind this first page letter from the CFO recommend a transfer of three hundred and sixty two thousand from the restricted reserve fund to the Arkansas school for the blind and the department of health of education the letter says the transfer will fund updates to IT infrastructure to support needs of educating students in person and virtually it will also of the campus security system on the next page letter from the school this is to the CFO explaining requested more detail this letter add the funds will also be used to improve accessibility on campus by repairing replacing wheelchair lifts and ramps and making repairs to buildings. The next request is on the following pages letter from the CFO Rick recommend a transfer of five hundred twenty six thousand from restrict reserve fund to the Arkansas school for the deaf a similar to the last request this transfers also for IT infrastructure and security system updates and the next page the letter from the school with more details about the request. The next request is for the division works as the police this letter from the C. for recommend the transfer of two point six million from the restricted reserve fund to state police and this fund will be used to provide FOR motor vehicles for the division earlier in the agenda the division may request for spending authority to make these purchases. On the next page is the letter from the department public safety with the schedule showing how the funds would be used. The last request is for a as the tech this is a later letter from the sea of a recommend you transfers four million four point seven million from the restricted reserve fund to as the tech the funds we use to make final payments to Kinkel construction management in Carmel architecture for the Arkansas fire training academy. The the last page is a letter from the school making the request the estimated completion date of the project is March twenty twenty one it sure those are the restrict reserve requests all right seat forty five. Representative Dotson thank you Mr chair this maybe staff could answer this sore or possible Mr believe I'm just curious about the status of the restricted reserve funds and. And if all these are approved what what our current balance is and any plans going forward with that. The current balance board to a trombone just a is about twenty seven million cash is the treasury is that after these are approved and that's before that's the balance as of yesterday so. And have I have an added all these up what. What will be left and then. I don't have to tell you but I can find for you quickly okay Smith Mr believe if all of you have that tally but. About nineteen million left and. What what is our plan on replenishing the restricted reserve fund. You're recognized to check the DFA office of budget when we put together the the RSA for this year you recall we had to cut two hundred and five million dollars we we in March six we presented a balanced budget the Kobe to hit two weeks later we had a fiscal session so when those three weeks we had to take the balanced budget as presented and fine and cut to one a to five million. That led to the category D. cut where we. across the board five percent cuts. We ended up in a place where we had two hundred five billion dollars in cuts since and sixty million dollars that we had squeezed together to meet that we did that by cutting out the rainy day fund we did that by cutting out funding for things like state police vehicles we able to scrape together sixty million dollars instead of trying to distribute that sixty million dollars across the two oh five in making our best guess we put that sixty million dollars into the restricted reserve so at this point every month five million dollars in general revenue give or take is deposited in the restricted reserve. And what we told the agencies is do the best you can with what you got and if you need additional funding that's where you can come and request the category de funding to be restored which is what you're seeing here today with the deaf school implied school. So so basically the the remainder. Yes the remainder the surplus from the the general I'm not reserve fund that we put into the Covert funds that ended the end of the fiscal year. That when we end of the fiscal year we're now using restricted reserve funds for those requests they're coming from agencies. Yes we had a cold and rainy day fund the we went in the last fiscal year we pulled all that money now we put that there to offset any kind of. Bad thing happening the reality was last fiscal year our revenues state stronger agencies were able to absorb it we worked through it now moving forward with instead of using that cover nineteen rainy day fund were really using the restricted reserve fund kind of in a similar process and then finally Refresh my memory on on the proposed budget going forward or how much of that general lot more reserve fund read going to be putting into restricted reserve going for. My recollection is that we do not and the governor's recommendation is not to provide any additional funding into restricted reserve the reason for that is two fold one once we were able to work out the budget and figure it out all of the agencies category D. request that had been asked for were filled in a in the guard balanced budget so that in our mind kind of excuses the need for the the additional funding for the restricted reserve the other thinking is that. The sixty million we have budget in there now we don't know what the rest of the the year may bring but it's very likely they'll be something left over that will carry forward in the next year there is only nineteen million left out of that sixty rent correct but with every month will be adding five more okay so it's a growing balance throughout the year yes that sixty million that we we presented the RSA that'll be spread out across the entire year perfect that that makes more sense now thank you. Any other questions. Senator Hickey yes Sir no problem with a the item I'm talking about is the essay you on the final payments nope no problem with doing that but is that the total amount if that's going to be the total amount for completion is that correct that is not the total final price tag of that project I want to say it's closer to seven and a half million at the end of the day we can total that up this is the last payment though that will be necessary to complete the project I know we made a payment on to essay you last fiscal year as well. So are they going to come back for more money out of the restricted reserve resist the final amount this is it okay and I see that it says the completion dates in March. Do we go ahead and and do the out the whole four point seven million this so you or do we do that any increments house that done we will pay essay you with assuming approval this transfer will transfer the money down as a you how as a you then uses that money to pay out the contractors I don't know but we can certainly get that for you well that's that's fine I was just want to make sure that so there is those other funds that are going to be needed if it is seven million or whatever that's coming from essay you know Sir I'm sorry I wasn't clear we've already made payments to essay you and presumably essay use already made those payments to the contractors this is just the final payment necessary to the school in there for the contractors to complete that the fire training project. Okay but again but again what I understood is this is this is the last amount for that that'll come out a restricted reserve yes Sir okay thank you Mr Billy thank you Mr. Total questions that I have I have a motion to approve second. Second any discussion all in favor say aye. Opposed no motion carried those items are approved will move to agenda item D.. Thank you Mr chair in section the now these are the budget classification transfer requests. The first item is for Arkansas crime information center it's request to transfer twenty five thousand spending authority from conference and travel to operate expenses the transfer will allow the department to refund registrations to law enforcement agencies to register for the fiscal year twenty one conference that was canceled due to cope with nineteen. Mr I believe that the only question today's agenda. All right let's just review out of any questions if not it'll stay reviewed item eighty. Section II begins the miss lance federal grant requests and the first one is for the office of the prosecutor the to request for thirty six thousand three hundred forty five and appropriations been federal funds they have a green for the department of justice to repay student loan that for those who chose careers as prosecutors in public defenders and to continue in that service this item is a hundred and fairly funded. The next item is easy to for development finance authority and this request for three million appropriation they have a grant from the US department of housing and urban development to construct the sensation center rental housing for extremely low income Arkansas veterans and it is also a hundred and fairly funded. Next item the threes division of career and technical education it's request for two point nine million appropriation and they have a grant the US department of education for an increase in funding for operations and for awarding grants to sever Sabaeans. The next item the fourth department of health it's request for two point one million appropriation and they have a grant from the CDC to support state and efforts for ending the HIV epidemic statewide. Next item the five department of parks heritage and tourism this request for forty one thousand in appropriations in federal funds for the Arkansas arts council they have a grant for the national endowment of the arts to increase allocation for funding for state grants in operations. E. six is for the purpose here just once more this is request for one point one million appropriations been funds for the parks division they have a grant from the department of interior of to allow for sub granting of the federal land and water conservation funds for outdoor recreation projects. Number seven is department public safety it's request for three hundred ninety thousand appropriations been federal funds for the Arkansas crime information center they have a grant from the department of justice to pay for a new sex offender registration system. Item eight is for the department public safety it's request for two hundred sixty three thousand an appropriation this is a grant from the if made through the court a coronavirus emergency supplemental funding program to create an update the department's website and purchase laptops printers scanners and other equipment needed for essential employees to work remotely. Item nine is for the department of health and this is a request for for the department of to establish eleven positions the department has sufficient spending authority from a previous MF G. request the positions are part of a grant from the CDC to respond to go in nineteen outbreak ale see review the positions for title in grade tomorrow during a personal report. Nicks items number ten A also department health and similar to last request this item is to establish another eighteen positions for the department spent thirty was reviewed the previous image the requests and again the tiles in grades will be on ales he's agenda tomorrow. the next three items eleven twelve and thirteen for the department of commerce the request total four hundred thirty five thousand appropriation to spend federal funds for the insurance department they have a grant from the private health and Human Services to provide assistance to people likely to be eligible for the low income subsidy program and all items are hundreds in federally funded so moved item number fourteen for the department of health. And this is a request for three hundred thousand appropriation they have a green for the department of health and Human Services to improve minority health using descriptive descriptive statistical analysis and it's a hundred civilly funded. Item number fifteen is for the department Human Services its request for seven hundred sixty seven sixty three thousand appropriation spin funds for the division of aging adult and behavioral health they have a grant from the department of health and Human Services to implement the Arkansas prescription drug opioid overdose prevention program. Next item is number sixteen again the chest this request one point four million for the division of aging they have a grant for the department of health and Human Services FOR the block grant for community mental health services. Next item is number seventeen again the chess it's requests for three hundred three thousand for the the the division of aging they have a grant from the substance abuse and mental health services administration for the projects for assistance in transition from homelessness program where the path program. Number eighteen department Human Services again this request for four point five million appropriation again for the division of aging adult and behavioral health they have a grant from the substance abuse mental health services administration to provide to provide crisis counseling to residents effective October nineteen. Number nineteen again DHS request for one point nine million this is for the division of county operations they have a grant for USD A. for the staff and program. And the last two items II twenty and twenty one are also for DHS request for the request total twenty four thousand and appropriation to spend federal funds for the division of county operations for the snap workfare programs and both items are federally funded. Representative Dotson you're recognized do you need to call which one or ones do you need to does sure it's I thank all of my for the department of health okay we have someone from the department of health. DO built in a by yourself for the record please and Representative Dotson will be recognized. Yes some don Adams deputy director Arkansas department health. Reserve a mental secretary of health are when the oral. You're recognized thank you Mr chair I'll start with the one hopefully is the easier on on item for the. HIV program ending HIV epidemic Do any of these funds go toward educational. initiatives to try to Get people aware I mean we we granting are we getting information out there to try to prevent on the front end people from comp contracting the disease. Begins. Williams. Department of health. I am representing Dotson these funds are used to target testing for identification of individuals that are HIV positive and then getting them link to care so it doesn't include a a prevention education component. Is is there something. Somewhere else within your overall budget that you do that sort of work yes Sir we do that work utilizing other other federal funding streams but this one is specific for identification of folks that may not know that their positive and getting them linked into care. Then I have another one Mr okay the other is on I guess primarily number ten here and get to it. This is I believe. This is the one that talked about personnel for contact tracing Refresh my memory if you will with regards to contract tracing in the overall strategy in goal of it. If I recall it was to try to the goal contact tracing is to limit the spread or contain something in a particular area so so it doesn't get out in. I we kind of past that point this this point it's. It seems to me is if. Covert nineteen is kind of everywhere. And. I'm I'm not hearing great results from contact tracing what what is adding additional staff going to do for that. The question. So Contact which is still in effect at this point and still has an impact on the disease if we did not engage in contact tracing at this time the spread of the cove and within our communities would be significant higher. While there are difficulties and has these have been noted they are being addressed and at this point there's no recommendation from the CDC or other agencies to to abandon current mechanisms for mitigation and identification of individuals are infected so we think that this is still a worthwhile endeavor and we want to continue for with. So is this going to reduce the amount of time it takes for contact tracers overall to actually communicate with folks because I don't know about the rest of my colleagues but I students still here a lot of reports that sometimes it's taking. Weeks for someone to actually and in a they hear about it. Weeks after I mean by that point that are to be out of quarantine I don't know that that's incredibly effective in in the goal of contractors right you are correct that when you are that far out it doesn't have an effect with the that is the minority of cases as opposed to the majority that we are trying to reach in a timely fashion and impact on their spread so the these individuals this funding will help support that this one to become even more important in the face of what is happening today and that is our numbers are increasing significantly we are as I mentioned yesterday or in the past the we are getting ready to escalate into a logarithmic growth and if that happens then it's more important to to really try to get this under control we want prevent this from happening so having this this month these funds available now and for future use certainly will it will be useful in contact with and then finally for may when someone is contacted by it contact tracer and the answer the questions or whatever then does the department health put mandatory quarantine on them or order them into isolation what what what is the current status of that and in I guess the the bat if someone's tested positive. Their families exposure and that sort of thing of what I've heard is they're released after ten days from testing but then family members. Our fourteen days in quarantine after that so you're looking at. Over three weeks worth of someone being that may not if ever even tested positive it's so you are correct in that the individual that is the index case the first person that is positive big if it is a long complicated case ten days is fine the family or the persons are living with that individual may need to go into quarantine fourteen days after that if if they cannot isolate appropriately within the family unit so if the home is large enough so that the index case can segregate themselves and avoid contact use appropriate measures that facemask sanitation of the bathrooms and things like that it is possible for a home environment exposure not to go for fourteen days after but that those those situations are discussed individually with with the contact research in and the contact tracer makes that final determination I believe that's correct yes. Thank you. Senator hammer. Thank you Mr chair. I noted on this of requested represent Dodge was just talking about there's a lot of duties that are signed to these eleven individuals I didn't see the total dollar amount on our break out she'd what's the total dollar amount on this one. Yes Sir the total dollar amount of the entry level salaries for all the positions they're requesting or one point seven million. In the interest paid duration of the federal funds is July thirty first of twenty twenty one. Twenty twenty two one of these grants goes to July twenty twenty two and the other one hands and October twenty twenty two. Okay the sheet I'm looking at says July thirty first twenty twenty one so so it's going to go further than that. That's my understanding which will then tell. Of the eleven people that are gonna be hired. A how many are actually going to be used in the contact tracing. A area because it it seems to talk about them doing a lot of other things you. The the duties of these positions more has a support effect for contact tracing so the epidemiologist collect the data and and make predictions about the disease and the incidents and the prevalence of the disease and so they they gather the information and then also some of these individuals we will be working with our congregate settings such as nursing homes and assisting with the efforts that we have there and then also in our laboratory some of these individuals will be working our laboratory. So not directly involved in contact tracing in the traditional sense but supporting that effort in making that more effective. The. The contact tracer. When the contact tracer gets involved. It starts with them getting the neighbor somebody that's had a positive test result correct. Correct. How do they know where the beginning of the source was. That you would. You would put that either in a shopping center environment a church environment nursing home environment what definitive way do you have to know to sign where the source of origin was that the person started their journey with their covert nineteen diagnosis. I'll attempt in Dr Meryl can add but the initial the initial start to a case is that the case investigation so that's separate from contact tracing so that's when we call that positive case and we do an interview and collect a lot information about you know who they've been around who are the close contacts to that individual that meet that definition where they've been then once we get those contacts from that initial case then the case skews me the contact tracing begins so you have to have that first step of interviewing that case before you can go to the next step of contact Tracy so those percentages that are put out the newspaper the reports that we get that say ex number percent are attributed to XYZ are they is up is that information taken from the contact tracer or is that information taken from the investigative study the investigation with the with the positive case okay are thank you Mr. Senator Ingram. Thank you Mr chair of following up on Representative Dotson and also Senator hammer mention this yesterday. You know I've got really serious concerns about the money that we spend on contact tracing. Of and Dr Romero to his credit he sent me an email at twelve oh six last night. I I head ask what was the metric how many days are. Or is there taking or are a what is taking in step one that was just describe their. And anecdotally. Represent Dotson mention it Senator hammer mention about a football team A in his district that it'd been nine or ten or eleven days since then there was no contact whatsoever I'm getting those same questions from my constituents that there is no follow up from the health department and Dr Mauro said that that was a minority in if it is it's of vocal minority because we're all hearing. I guess my question is in what bothered me last night or this morning when I saw doctor Meryl's response to me was that he was going to have somebody to get with me with what the metric was. I would have thought you would have known that off the top of your head if it was taken three point four days to contact in step one that's the most important step if it's nine ten eleven or twelve days every dollar we spend after that as far as I can tell is probably wasted on contact Tracy but let me ask again. What is the metric that we're using and what is the average number of days that this step one is taking place. as your question it we can ask our one of our cheap on or after the mail just to come to the table provide information the reason why I was not provided to yesterday was that it is not to your advantage to be for me to give you data that is not exact so rather than approximate what that time is we can give you strong data if we have a moment to look for and that changes week to week because of our Q. I. Q. way evaluation of the a contact tracing so is doctor some or do you have a moment to. Give some that I've you have it. Identify yourself for the record please thank you Mr chair my name is Mike some on the chief deputy me all this proper response associate director for science Senate from your your request was fourth meet early this morning and began working on it as Dr Meryl lose to every single week we we gather together is a large group and go over there the quality of of our contact tracing data and one in the measure that you're referring to Sir speaks to the time that it takes from when we receive a positive result the time that the person is assigned to a contact racial so that interval time describes the the amount of time that somebody it takes to do go through our case investigation and that time in a role right now is up or right around forty eight hours or. So are we we your we your contact somebody within forty eight hours that's what our every Jesus yes Sir so bringing these additional people loan should bring that even down for I'm the staff will be mostly as the deputy director Oct on Adams mentioned these are supporters that these are epidemiologist of the case investigation stays more with armed nursing staff the epidemiologists or really those individuals to take that information and turn into something actionable so is information that we can use to inform where we're going with our pendant. Well forty eight hours is certainly a lot different than what I think the feedback that we get anecdotally from people that have not been contacted of the but you agree with me that this first phase that if it's any further I thank at what point does it began to be worthless to have the contact tracers involved. It is it nine ten eleven twelve thirteen days if nobody's been contacted in step one. I'm not certain that there's been an exact measure put out by the CDC I can really give it an exact but you are correct so that they're it there will come a time where during the course of persons on this and that there is no longer in at the you don't really any value to to do in the case of escape or the I'm sorry the contact tracing because they've already gone through their faxes period the contacts Rhodia quarantine that is the minority of cases Sir we do keep an eye on that as as best as we possibly can. Do you feel like that forty eight hours has been pretty much the average the sense well let's just say the first of July do you do you think that that is indicative to where we are now the four year that we've been contacted people within forty eight hours that time frame is actually come down since July first week we keep has not on a weekly basis going back actually to July first and beyond and then measure that forty eight hours has reduced since that time for okay thank you very much additional comment so the the other the other thing to keep in mind is that as this epidemic progresses within our state there will be more and more stress on the contact tracers and so these numbers are are a moment in time they may not hold true in four weeks but I think it's important to understand that we are continuing to monitor this on a weekly basis as part of our Q. eight U. R. well I I don't I'm not as worried about the contact tracers is I am step one because with that step land being incorrect then is you just testified to the contact tracers would that make any difference so so that I'm worried about that step one that we that you referred to Mr Hankins. Absent to fight. Thank you Mr chair. I'm sorry. I thank up. Push it again. I was trying to. Beach senator Ingram and got yours. it now my on yes. I continue to get complaints from constituents not so much about the length of time before they are contacted that saying that multiple people are calling them on the same day requesting the same information I I got a complaint on Monday. From a constituent and she said here I was sick and contact tracers A called me I gave them all my information and then an hour later contact tracer be called may I get them all my information a couple of hours later contact tracers seat called me and civil somehow that's not entered into our system I might have discounted this except that I had the very same experience myself. I was diagnosed on October the twenty fourth tested positive and I was called pretty quickly within forty eight hours gave all my information and then lo and behold about three hours later another contact tracer called me and I said I just did this and the response was well it somehow wasn't entered we need to do it all again what's with this one why is this still happening after all these months we should have some of these Kinks worked out. I will say that it getting contacted twice it should be the norm because the unit if you're a case a positive case you will get a call from what we call a case investigator and then a separate person will call you as a contact tracer to keep your contacts so now the third time I can't explain I'm not sure and less there was just like you said some kind of malfunction but getting the case is getting contacted twice it is standard process the case investigator is usually a nurse and does the interview of the case and then the contact tracer many times is not a not a nurse that's assigned to contact tracing follow up please is. Could that be made clear to the person who is being called because when I questioned why are we doing this again that was not explained to me. Yes will will clarify that with our our vendors that are doing the case investigation contact tracing I and our staff internally to make sure that's communicated I think that would be helpful. Thank you. Senator rice. Following up from another. Kobe case. one I was contacted from the health department person a hike in Batesville only Boyce call initially after that I didn't hear from anybody other than I got a text. I got a text ever day is that a contact racer. So for me that that is a part of the follow up that occurs after you have been entered in the system and and I suppose I assume that was so alert which is a system that looks to see if you have develop symptoms while you're being followed and and I have experience with that also through that they do call you and they should keep chat tabs on you for fourteen days was that the case your in your situation part ten days yeah so it it has to do with that it's it's the it's the following and and. All contact writers what we've approved budget far in here are hired firms that do that. That correct. And how do you audit them how do you know. Somebody says I made fifty calls today how do you know that correct. Yes the contact trade we do have case investigators inside the department that are working and then also some that we contract out but almost all the contact tracing now is done with our vendors and in our agreements with them in our contracts with them there's metrics detail metrics and the required report to that to us on a daily or weekly basis we compile that doubt data as Dr Seema said we meet regularly to review it we follow we're in constant communications with our vendors to address problems or issues that we're seeing or where we feel like they're not meeting our expectations thank you thank you Mr. Senator hammer I have you back in the queue if you're ready and have a question yes yes Sir and and Mr chair thank you for the latitude because this is going to help make decisions Marshall thanks for the latitude Re educate me on something on the contact tracing so somebody goes and gets a test and the health department gets that information that they've tested positive. Does the health department contact that person or do you turn that over to the companies that got the contact tracing a contract and it's their job to begin that. So it depends on where the test was done. So if if you go to your doctor's office and you have the test done is responsibility the doctor to provide that wrist that test to you and at the same time communicate that results of the health department. If it is done at a pharmacy the same occur the pharmacy should inform you somehow of the result and then refer the result to the health department that lag that time in there we have no control over so again I'm not making excuses for why you here for about nine days or not but in some cases what we have found is that the test is being done by a physician. That position notifies the patient but doesn't get that information to us for several days after that once we have that information then we kick in that forty eight hour clock now talking about our system that is your public health lab in your public health lab we have a positive test we then reach out immediately. Forty four forty eight hours after that test is positive to begin the contact tracing and I'll leave it to doctor seven to give more detail if if appropriate. The committee you had every point. Does that explain for why some of our constituents and are not finding out till summer some are even get contacted at all yeah so so I I as I said before I don't wanna make excuses Sir but but that may be the reason why you're seeing some of these nine or ten days I I can tell you that we are the health department once we have a positive we reach out within that period of time right and that's also a metric that is the time from positivity to the time of of of reaching out we have that test and and we try to do that within the forty eight hour period and shorted even more so I do believe that some of this is due in part because it's going either to a physician to the pharmacy or some other place and then that individual duly notifies the patient but the result doesn't come to us for several days after that. Because I'm a when we debated heavily about the two contracts going out for the contact tracer part of the justification was that the health department could keep up with the demand load at the time as far as being able contact everybody so then it became necessary for the contact tracers to to be involved in my in my correct my memory on that I believe that's correct Sir. All right I think what I'd like to see I ask you for piece of information yesterday I'm a got it just haven't seen it and it was regarding Hello my in my mind just left me a. Okay with F. Lampeter speaks refresh ash for the meeting yesterday about about the related to that the the the other question is how many dollars total because I know we've appropriated money to you as far as cares ACT money but how many dollars total has the health department received. To combat code. Give semester months of the CLC grants that we received one of those for seventy eight million these are supplemental grants. Staff. Okay thank you. This is two hundred thirteen million at that's what we receive between the care steering committee and our federal grants. I'd like to get a copy of that if you don't mind the so I can see where the where the money's been spent please thank you Mr. Represented option you're recognized thank you Mr chair at this this discussion has gone quite a bit if there's anybody else talk dollars nobody is in the queue so I'd I'd make a motion that we go ahead and review everything except for nine and ten here and hold those over we'll send them the LCD is a separate item tomorrow. Okay because these these are review items are not approval but we do have a motion to pull out. I was nine and ten to be considered for review by counsel tomorrow. Yes it is a of a motion I have a second. I have a second on that motion I have a second any discussion. For the motion is just to pull out items nineteen to be considered by counsel for review tomorrow all in favor say aye. Opposed no the motion carried and in without objection the other items will stand review there's number nineteen will be considered by counsel for review tomorrow. First. Agenda item if. Thank you Mr chair in section F. now these are the quarterly reports the first report is for DHS since the inter agency and inter divisional match fund transfers and the report shows over three point one million Trancers from individual divisions fund accounts to the corresponding great grant payment accounts. The next item is F. to this is the office of Attorney General Castleman fund and this report shows quarterly cash account activity report details six settlements in show the balance of cash funds on the first page on the next page in the following pages are they cash receipts disbursement and it transaction detail report. The next item if three is forced the police it's report that shows asset forfeiture expenditures for each quarter of the fiscal year the first page of the report shows sixty thousand extensions for the again for the first quarter out of the T. P. C. zero one hundred fund this is the fun for federal asset forfeitures and on the second page it shows six thousand expenditures in the first quarter of the TPC zero two hundred fund that is the phone for state asset forfeitures. Next item ephors Phil Gramm applications in this this report shows off that are gonna applications for the first quarter of twenty three one. Next item is F. five in this is the federal grant awards report for the first quarter of twenty twenty one. Texas to the last report is for eighty Q. it's a status report on the bill of this the hazardous waste removal and this report required by special language the agency received twenty million an additional appropriation and the ability to receive ten million in loans from the budget stabilization trust fund and that's to remediate the underground fire side and all of this to according to this report total expenses incurred by the state to date or one point three million no expenses were made the last quarter all expenses have been paid out of the hazardous substance remedial trust fund and a loan from the budget stabilization trust fund was not required Bellavista property owners association assumed ownership over the projects and completed fire suppression in June two thousand nineteen and is currently working on restoration plans through for state agencies actively investigating potentially responsible parties who could be held liable to stay for the costs of for the cost of the remedial recovery actions at the site. Sure those are the quarterly reports. Any questions on any of those. That will move to the motor reports. Thank you Mr the first month report is G. one this is rainy day fund report and it shows the incoming distributions as of the end of October the last table at the bottom of the page is project distributions in a fund balance of of eleven million eight hundred nine nine thousand should ails the approval on Friday two days for any they release for the geographic information systems office the new balance will be two hundred thousand dollars less for about eleven point six nine million. The next item G. two is the budget stabilization first report and the show's cash flow loan throughout the fiscal year as of the end of October there are twenty nine point eight million in outstanding loans in the cash balance is a hundred seventy four million. Next item G. three is the tobacco settlement report and this shows a summary of income fund that fund balances investments actual payments to the state and on the second page all expenses by fiscal year. Thanks item G. four is the state central services fund report and it shows the phone bouncing disbursements as well as expenditures of each agency supported by the fund. And the last item is he cares ACT report this report shows deductions from the one point two five billion cares funds and steering committee recommendations pending the governor's approval as of the time of the report. She does all the monthly reports any questions on any of the monthly reports. Representative Dotson. Yes Mister chair on the the G. five I think it is the cares act remaining funds do we have any anticipation of of the upcoming request that they might be coming in on the next forty days or have they clear their deck for the time being. But check the DFA often you're recognized. A I'm not aware of any request that they have but we're going to process now as I understand it reviewing all the funds that are out there making sure that they're not going to get spent that they are utilized effectively so my assumption is that the secretary Smith and others are constantly getting requests or looking at different options last night the steering committee approved a request contingent upon additional money being made available and additional time being made available so they are looking at some other options what was that request it had to do with cyber security of a D. I S. and responding to some of the issues that have come up as a result of how much was them thirty three million again that's contingent upon additional funding we do not have thirty three million available and cares ACT others nineteen million here is there any outstanding things that were anticipating clawing back I am not aware of anything in particular okay thank you. Yep senator Irvin. So just that you know we had a meeting last night I'm I'm on the carriers during task force and we had a meeting last night and one of the other things that we are finalizing is you know we sent a hundred fifty million dollars to the city's into the counties and so they are going through that all counties did apply for their money but to seventy five million the city's we had about two hundred thirty cities that did not apply so whatever many is left over from that hundred fifty million we had directed to go to the convention bureaus and like Simmons arena and some of the bigger of in use because I haven't had you know the ability to have conferences this year so that was just one thing I wanted to add that the ad that amount will stay within the hundred fifty million so whatever's left over would go to that unless we made a different decision that everything's there still some outstanding grant programs of so we don't have all those kind of finalized yet to where we know and we're gonna re assess on December one with what we had originally stated. Thank you senator. Representing close our business the next meeting of peer will be on December the fifteenth if there is nothing else we wish all of you a safe and Kobe had free thanksgiving and if nothing else were adjourned.