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HB1022
· 2 mentions in chapter, agenda
Matched: “HB1022 C. Fite TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING WHEN LIGHTED LAMPS ARE…”
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TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING WHEN LIGHTED LAMPS ARE REQUIRED ON CERTAIN TYPES OF VEHICLES … | C. Fite | Died in Senate Committee at Sine Die adjournment. |
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HB1115
Act 389
· 1 mention in agenda
Matched: “…h Sen. Clarke Tucker REGULAR AGENDA Number Sponsor Subtitle HB1115 Wardlaw TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE WEIGHT THRESHOLD FO…”
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TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING THE WEIGHT THRESHOLD FOR COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLES. | Wardlaw | Notification that HB1115 is now Act 389 |
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Speaker 1
0:00
We have one bill, the other bill has to be amended. First bill is Senator Eads and Representative Fite. After we get done with this bill, we're going to have a discussion on time for this meeting because it's conflicting with Senate Ag. Senator Eads, if you want to present your bill. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Senator Lance Eads
Unverified
0:30
This bill was actually brought to representative height by a member of the police department in Prairie Grove in an area where there's a lot of country roads and curvy roads, older vehicles that don't have the automatic headlights like most of the new ones do. And so what this bill does is it just makes a quick change to the current statute, which previously said that those vehicles that don't have the automatic headlights, whether that be all-terrain vehicles golf carts cars whatever normally would have to turn on their
lights one half an hour after sunset and they could be turned back off one half hour before sunrise and having a duck hunted with senator garner here it's still pretty dark a half hour before sunrise so it just becomes a safety issue for a lot of areas especially in in the more rural areas where you have you know cars coming around the corners and things like that so what What this has been asked to do is to change it. And also there was a challenge they said at times for people having to go to court and argue whether or not it was 29 minutes before or after sunset or sunrise or 28 minutes or whatever.
And this just takes away all those things and says, if it's sunrise, you can turn them back on. And if I would turn them back off, if it's sunset, you need to turn your lights on. So that would fall into all those kinds of categories like cars and all-terrain vehicles and things like that. And I'd be happy to take
Speaker 4
1:57
any questions. Is there any questions from the committee members?
Senator Clarke Tucker
Unverified
2:02
Senator Tucker? Thank you, Mr. Chair. Senator, do you know, I just don't know, for the cars that do have the automatic timers on their lights, what they're timed to?
Is it sunrise and sunset or the half hour?
Senator Lance Eads
Unverified
2:13
Do you know? From what the feedback I've gotten from several law enforcement officers, they actually normally kick on well before sunset. So, I mean, and they've said they've never had any of these, they've never had examples of at least this particular officer of where he had to pull somebody over and said they had the automatic ones and they didn't come on so I'm sure excuse me as the life goes on in those vehicles that might be an issue but in newer vehicles it's not a problem so usually they come on well before sunset okay thank you senator garner a comment
Senator Trent Garner
Unverified
2:46
in a question typically the way it works for auto vehicles is there's a sensor on the dash that once the sunlight that goes out it comes on it kicks on based on that thing so if you look on cloudy days sometimes it'll kick on during the day it's based on that sensor if they don't have full-time lights to your question about duck hunting and the hours sunset typically it is fairly still lit outside that from my experience I mean it's it's enough that you could honestly walk around and drive without your light so I think 30 minutes afterwards is a very distinguishable
time where it's much much much darker at that time what concerns me about this is I mean it it can be fairly lit outside and you not notice it and be get a ticket whenever I think 30 minutes after is to the point that it sees that there's no reasonable excuse where you could say I did not know it was after dark that's just from my experience of staying out after certain times in fact sometimes I have to look at my watch to know if it's sunrise or sunset depending on what it is So I'm a little concerned about a ticket.
And what's the penalty for this violation? Do you know that off the
Speaker 6
3:52
top of your hand? I do not. I don't think it specifically. Gil, did you know that off the top
Speaker 14
3:58
of your hand, Mr. Chairman, if you allow? I
Speaker 1
4:02
don't. I don't know what the. Have you got any?
Senator Trent Garner
Unverified
4:09
I imagine it's a ticket, right? Like some kind of fee, about $50 to $100. I'm guessing. I mean, I'm speculating here. Well, what
Speaker 17
4:15
I was told, and I can't find it off the hand real quick,
Speaker 18
4:20
but I think it's the same penalty for not having your lights on as exists today. So they
Speaker 21
4:26
didn't change the penalty. I'm asking what that is. Oh, I don't know. I just knew it didn't
Speaker 1
4:33
change the penalty. It just changed the time. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? I have, my concern is I see a grace period in what we have at 30 minutes before and 30 minutes after and in this it's it's kind of like duck hunting with the hours you are
strict sunrise sunset and that changes that changes by the minute every day depending on you know I mean it just you'd have to track that and it's one thing to track during duck season but it's another thing to track every day of the year when to turn your headlights on and off I think, and in the law now, it says that any other time when there is not sufficient light to render clarity within like 500 feet, that's like 166 yards.
So, I mean, there's that in the law and that's staying in here under this. so I just I feel more comfortable with the grace period of the 30 minutes even though I see you know the where they're coming from on a set set time but it also could be abused in certain situations so if it was brought by one one enforcement officer
I don't know that we have an agreeance upon those who enforce the law. So I don't know, but it's just my concern in it. Any other questions or statements? Senator Gardner. This is probably outside the purview of what you
Senator Trent Garner
Unverified
6:20
know of this information. I wish we had the police officer here. I'd like to ask him. One, is there data on other states on how they do this?
Two, kind of follow up to that, has it produced better safety results? Because if you can show me objectively where changing the law produces X amount less accidents where people see the lights, I think I'd be more compelled to do that rather than just kind of make it this, change it for any other reason. I trust our law enforcement. They say it makes it better. I can't believe them, but if there's any discernible data or how other states do it, do you
Senator Lance Eads
Unverified
6:58
know what I'm talking about? I don't have any specific data. I do know there's, and they give me information on Indiana, Kansas, Virginia, and several others
that have gone to this same time period for between sunset, yeah. Any
Speaker 1
7:13
other questions from members? Being none, what's the will of the committee? Do we have anybody signed up to? Anybody, nope, nobody signed up. Motion do pass. Motion by Senator Eades, second by Senator English. All in favor, say aye. Aye. All opposed, say no.
No. Chairs sees that it did not pass. Is there any other, there's no other business? Thank you, Mr. Chair. The, do I? Point of clarification, did we have,
Speaker 11
7:54
you mentioned that amendment at the beginning, and that's something we're going to bring later for that other bill? Yeah, yeah. Just making
Speaker 1
8:02
sure. They hadn't got it done yet for that other bill, the amendment. So we have a conflict for time because we have a member, Ricky Hill,
who's a member of Senate Ag. Is there any objection to moving our meeting to 11 o'clock on Tuesdays and Thursdays rather than 930? Zero. So if there's no objection, then we will move to 11 o'clock on Tuesdays and Thursdays. All right. If there's any other business to come before the committee, if not, we're adjourned.
Agenda
CALL TO ORDER
HB1022 C. Fite TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING WHEN LIGHTED LAMPS ARE REQUIRED ON CERTAIN TYPES OF VEHICLES AND VESSELS
Change in Meeting Schedule
ADJOURNMENT
Documents
| Title | Type | Pages | Source |
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| Agenda — TRANSPORTATION, TECHNOLOGY & LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS - SENATE, Feb 9, 2021 | Agenda | 1 | Official source ↗ |
Speakers
Speaker 1
Senator Lance Eads
Unverified
Speaker 4
Senator Clarke Tucker
Unverified
Senator Trent Garner
Unverified
Speaker 6
Speaker 14
Speaker 17
Speaker 18
Speaker 21
Speaker 11