ALC-Occupational Licensing Review Subcommittee

Morning. Call this meeting at the occupational licensing review committee to order. Representative meets do you have any comments to make this morning. So good we have a few little things on our agenda this morning so if you remember we talked about last meeting about removing the. Greyhound racing commission from art that well there's a few more issues here that we need to think about before we vote to do that so i've asked matthew miller and lives to come in give us a presentation on some of the issues so that we're all kind of insane here and we know what's going on so if you would identify yourself be recognized. My name is little bit late and i'm in legislative attorney with the bureau of legislative research. Matthew miller and with the bureau legislative research. At the last meeting you all had a few questions concerning the bill draft. To repeal the arkansas greehound reasoning long you asked would this legislation outlaw great hound racing in the state of arkansas or would this still be allowed does this mean there won't be anything in place that someone wants to start up great how do you think or well they say great how do you think in the state it's illegal the answer to that is no it would not outlaw great hundreds in in the state the legislation and repeals arkansas greek hundreds in law which is the mechanism for granting franchises to restocks and the state so without the fire. There will be no way to obtain a franchise to restore the legislation is passed there is no criminal offense specific to racing dogs and the arkansas code however depending on the specific circumstances involved there are provisions of the code that could apply for example it is a criminal offense to keep a gambling house so if people were wagering on the dog races criminal penalties could apply and that's arguments by sixty six one of three. I'm i'm happy to take questions about that at this time. Are there any questions. From the committee. I represent the mix. So just a summer eyes dog racing would be legal provided there was no betting on. Well I guess that the the megan of them to get a franchise to restart would be removed like I said some criminal offences could apply it would be highly fact dependent but the most relevant having a gambling house. Right so so theoretically somebody could start at all racing track and as long as there is no gambling if it would just for entertainment purposes theoretically somebody could do that in the states that would that be correct well like I said there's no criminal offense specific to racing dogs so okay so to anybody could do that now theoretically as well correct okay I just make sure I fully understand kind of the implications here hard thank you. I see. Sinner love thank you madame share and thank you for allow me to square since i'm not on the committee but I just want a just a little clarification so what what actually is in the constitution in regards to greyhound recently. The references in greyhound racing regard. Casino gaming. So to the extent we've discussed it inherits to the extent there the casino license is tied to the operation of a okay so that they've found a thing that's only reference in regards to growth rating gets out that's always used okay all right thank you. Representative crawford thank you madame chairman so. I don't know a lot about gambling but in places like even at oklahoma. Don't they bet on races and other states and then with this make people a criminal if they have a darger a scory they were betting that oaklawn. When I don't grace in another state. The. There we are the racing commission is here you know and some of these questions I might defer to them I know byron freelance behind me so you know I don't want to get too far into the weeds of something they know better than I but there's aspects of the license you know as to what the license to operate the the racing the casino etc allow you I think those would be questions as to what is the licence a while. And mister fragas had mister free once here if you'd like. To get his father the work please as so my next question would be what this would do if we voted to get rid of a minimum one hundred. Then that people could ray stogs but it would be illegal they would become a criminal than if they put it back on a dog race is that correct. Operating a gambling house is illegal in arkansas no matter what you're doing so you know if you were conducting dog racing and gambling on it then presumably you would buy like this day obviously it's fact but I mean if you've set up an operation in your backyard and you're racing dogs and you're taking wagers on it likely to violate it arkansas. Now there'd be some other considerations as far as local licensing things noise the way you're taking care of the dogs I think there'd be a lot of considerations under arkansas that would way into that. But as liz was saying there's nothing that specifically says they'll shall night. Operate dog racing now if you were operating like a dog recent franchise you'd have to go through the process of getting that license because there's a statutory mechanism for that. Alright thank you. The. Sinner love thank you mislead limit the meat I guess said some i'm current new to this issue is the only reference to racing dogs is that statutory is is is the is the I guess. Is this only a statute then we provide racing II guess we enable race through statutory or or is it in the constitution I guess that's what i'm trying to figure out if. If it's in the constitution that what what. Did the people give us the right to do in the end or if it's just purely statutory. That the address that's what i'm trying to figure out. So there is the architecture and racing law in the code and there are several references to green hundreds thing that are included in the bill draft to be repealed and there also references to great houndry thing in amendment one hundred of the constitution okay in in the in the in their amendment one hundred in the constitution. Is that only is the reference only may and regards to the gambling I mean like I guess i'm trying to figure out what right did the people get. For greyhound racing. Vs where do we try to take away statutory because i'm trying to figure out is this something that we should be doing. She wouldn't should we we referred it to the people or should we be. That there I guess that's what i'm trying to figure out. Is. Where did the people say that we should be able to do in our we try to change their statutory vs. Did the people say that they could gamble in in run the races and early do you get what i'm saying in I think I do there are several references and I don't I don't think we have to hand out here today we had it at the last meeting of the exact language of the constitution and matthew might be addressing this shortly whenever he talks about the constitutional. Implications but there are several references through out of them at one hundred that referred to the arkansas three hundred in law to green hundred thing to the local option horse racing in two hundred thing electronic games skill act through so. In the we apparently some minute in regards to the casinos that I guess. Are let me just try to kitchen the ministry try to catch up on this thank you maryland share. So I mean I think maybe you might have a little unbrief explanation here that my help us all and because I think we all have counters I had the same questions if so many of you perceive. You bet so what at last meeting there was discussion of a constitutional minute to clean up the references to greyhound racing in the constitution lease had gone through there and I believe all the references in the constitution related to the greyhound racing um the provision. The concept when you discussed it in the committee was just a clean those up when I went in and looked at the nuts and bolts of how greyhound racing is kind of used in amendment one hundred there's some policy issues and cannot some more complex things to think about it's not just simply going in there and red lining the term greyhound it leads to some associated changes that you'd want to make so in consultation with the chairs and look of bringing in a draft today what I brought is a power point I know you're excited about a monday morning power and I hope you brought a powerpoint about the arkansas constitution I did good news but it's brief we'll go through just kind of some of the issues that are involved and in the committee can kind of think about how you'd want to proceed so just laying a little background as a constitutional limit one hundred the casino gaming amendment of twenty eighteen that was adopted at the november twenty eighteen general election that was an initiated act that wasn't one of the ones the general assembly referred out. There's a lot of stuff in a minute one hundred but one of the provisions specifically directed the racing commission to issue a casino license to a franchise holder in critten in county they're only being wine to conduct casino gaming at a casino to be located at our adjacent to the franchise holders greyhound racing track and gaming facility we did everything but say south land right it's really impressive we could have gone like within two hundred yards interstate forty within five miles of an available river and I think we captured the concept. Franchise holder is defined as any individual corporation partnership trust energy holding a franchise to conduct horse racing greyhound racing as of december thirty one twenty seventeen so amendment one hundred captured the moment as to when they were operating greyhound racing which is important as we go forward. And south land stopped conducting greyhound racing as of january one of this year. So with that background five points that all run through to think about as you consider what to do with the minimum one hundred currently seventeen point five percent of the net casino gaming receipts go to oakland oakland and south land. For purses and the horse racing in greyhound racing that distribution is time dependent for the period prior to january one of next year. Oaklawn get sixty percent south land gets forty percent. On an after january one of twenty twenty four their distributed pro rata based on the paramutual wagering handle in the previous year. So south lanes not conducting racing this year. So that's going to be an important factor in the analysis of how to distribute it next year. So the number one question to kind of think about when you're changing amendment one hundred is how are you going to address the forty percent. Of the seventeen point five percent tax that's directly routed to the franchise holder operating greyhound racing. The racing commission wrestled with this question earlier this year they asked for an ag opinion in light of south plan not conducting great hound racing and the again a pine that if south land was not conducting greyhound racing if they weren't operating then the commission was prohibited from sending that forty percent to south plan. Not what happens to it the eighty opinion said they could send it to oakland there wasn't language in there that said you can't send that to oakland it didn't say you couldn't do more than sixty percent I quoted the language there would be consistent worth but not required by a minute one hundred for the commission to send the forty percent to oakland. However the opinion not there's always the variable that if southland were to start greyhound racing again they back into eligibility to get the money so in the future that be that possibility. Now looking january one twenty twenty four going forward we'll be doing the pro rata share but operation that's going to be a hundred percent oak on and zero percent south land because there's no racing taking place. At south land but it's not written that way in a minute one hundred while the net effect may be that okay got that one hundred percent it's just happening by operation. So if you were gonna rewrite these provisions to remove the references to greyhound racing. Do you want to write it specifically one hundred percent for oakland would you want to consider another distribution for that forty percent would you want to do something completely different I mean at that point you've been open back up the whole scheme and so that would be one question. Question number two. Under amendment one hundred fourteen percent of the necasino gaming receipts are set aside by south land as long as they're conducting greyhound racing to be used only for large racing and capital improvements to the facility. As long as they were operating greyhound racing they also set aside one percent to go to breeder awards for greyhounds in the state these provisions are moot now because they're not operating greyhound racing the question would be do you want to leave those in there would you want to redo those set asides for other purposes. Then just. It's either a straight repeater that language or modification. Issue number three as I noted that the beginning southland's license was issued based on it being a franchise holder as of december thirty one twenty seventeen under amendment one hundred the fact that they're not conducting greyhound racing ten dollars an impact the fact that they got the license because they were conducting greyhound rising crayhound racing at the correct time. So if you're going to remove the references to greyhound racing do you want to preserve. These references the historical references you know is there anything by removing greyhound racing impact south lines licenseer. And that's something the racing commission may have some thoughts on as to how they might want it to read perspectively going forward in light of there not being any greyhound occurring. Issue number four amendment one hundred contained some type of graphical ears and some manifest reference errors the general revenue fund is referenced rather than the general revenue fund account. There's punctuation messing there some formatting errors some of the internal references point to the wrong places there are some words duplicated as I looked at what language would be included in a clean up amendment it touches on some of those parts some of those errors show up in there so the question would be do you want to clean those up do you want to go and incorrect the errors. And if you were going to clean up bears a member one hundred has more errors within it than what are just in the parts touching on greyhounds so I mean there there could be an issue if you wanted to say let's just clean this whole thing up that would be a possibility. And number five. There's references and a member one hundred two the greyhound racing law and the local option horse racing and. Greyhound racing electronic game to skill act by citation. So I know the status story legitimate legislation last prepared you know and been some of those are appeals to greyhound racing law it changes the name of the electronic game to skill act and not repeal it completely we just want to make sure that what happened in the bills coincided with what ended up in the constitution either bob virtual passing that legislation first so you knew when the constitution. When this was an active that you had the references right or doing it afterwards to make sure they matched. So those are the main thoughts that cannot came to me as I was looking at it that we're going to be action points for putting a draft together again mr freelance behind me and he's here and can answer some of the nets and bolts questions as far as license and issues like that. And short of that i'm happy to take any questions. Miller's testimony here this morning it looks like southland next year may be looking at i'm right here in front of you that the south known may be looking at losing their forty percent do you know off top your head how much money that amounts to do not know it's it's it's a large summer and I have spoken to the south of the attorneys and they they realize that when they stopped great and raising and are they going to be okay with that losing that's large summer that they understand that that was part of the. Clarification so for so speak of quitting the greyhounds they did and it appears to the racing commission that when a mirror one hundred was drafted it was drafted with it so they may do away with crayon race some day and they try to take care all the issues in the amendment and that and so and as of right now just for your my ignorance on this there is no racing of any kind of going on in south land or do they have horse racing so they have sam on cash raising which they show videos of live racing and other tracts and people compared on that with that authorized under another state okay right thank you because there's no laugh no rough no libraries in there and and and no intention to do that in the near future it sounds like if throughout the having intentions they've not told aren't thank you so right here. So the mister miller mentioned here is that in those dollars go to the purse. So since there is no no purse. To so to speak out there with the dog raising though there's no winners and losers because there's no racing so we're talking about that possibly all that seventeen and a half percent. All going to oak on that is correct that was a position of o climb it also south and had no objection to it and that that's that was the plan is all that money goes on for purse is it this point. It does now it does. Okay. Okay representative. Thank you matter chair my questions from mr mallor are the options that you presented this morning which in your opinion would be the easiest and cleanest way for us to do this i'm jumped terrible given my opinion I would be interested in the one that makes you happy that's the easiest one includes this one for me now I would seriously defer to the wheels of the committee you know is mister freelan just said okay getting the one hundred one hundred percent of it right now by operation I believe that was a commission decision based on that AG opinion the constitution didn't tell them to send them that one hundred percent so you'd be talking about an amendment to the constitution to kind of ratify. The distribution the way they're doing it now it doesn't have to be that way so I would defer to how the committee that like the tax receipts needed to be distributor. Thank you. Representative ray dake it matter over here my microtoo right my question would be disamendment one hundred make any sort of provision for you obviously there's no plans for this now but let's say a hundred years from now if there were to phase out horse racing similar to how great hound racing there's currently being faced out. Is there any provision for what would happen to the post money in that situation. No the references to if it's not being an operated I believe we're pretty much exclusive to greyhound racing i'm looking to buy one to see if he agrees I don't remember a lot of provisions in there on what would happen racing wasn't being conducted. If horse race who is not being conducted I believe that money would go to the purposes were disco to the state of argument so I mean is that in their memories I think you can region them in that way because it says it's a percentage of the other money goes for purse is it racing if there's no racing then that that money would go back to the state of arkansas okay you could I mean i'm sure they would make the argue so there's that's an issue the right given issue would have to face in resolve whether it would do back to the state of arkansas or whether which is the two casing well I may be for casinos with that term. There's not a tiered layout in the amendment like you know it would go here and then it would go here if it doesn't go to the purses which is kind of got what we got into earlier this year because it wasn't clear where the persportion for south land went so would have the same as this except when it made me that's what prompted that that thought thank you. Representative brown. Yeah. Thank you madam chair. So if. If there is no racing at south land the only tax revenue that is being generated is it the horse race tracked as that not correct. Of course you had the casino that south and outrageous generates a very large amount of tax revenue of the revenue but there is no racing revenue generate except on sample casting which is separate. In there's a separate statute in they do to do some case and I don't it's not a large amount that it is your it does exist. Follow up so the seventeen and a half percent tax is set on all gambling or is it just on the it was it just on the dogs and on the horses or or was at seventeen in a half percent on all gambling. My memory is seventeen percent on the racing. Represent a brown I need to double check that I don't want to I don't I don't have it in front of me by memory as it's it's it's all racist. I'm trying to understand this so my point is is if the horse racing is the only racing that generating. This revenue then it should just go to the horse tracks because there are no dog tracks then smart logical thinking on theirs and then if there's no horse racing then there's no seventeen and a half percent tax coming in any way correct let me go back and look and see I was thinking that that was off just the. But the casino revenue was included in the seventeen and a half percent that was just everything coming out let me go back and double check and I can but you know offline thank you. That money is still being created though like there still is money to distribute because oaklawn got money this year so. I mean senator love thank you ma'am I have a question are it so we're talking about get just doing a way strategically with. With greyhound race is that then that's the question before us yes is that correct okay so the way the one on this has written it's it is pointed to critical encounter what you have someone was to actually someone else that was doing some of hassle would it worker then agency wanted to come in in bureau horse in building down track in crining county. What position would that put us in as far as in in this is proud to the rates and commission because if someone wanted to establish another race or another doll track in crining county. And what position would that put shooting as far as issue on the casino license. Because because southland is no longer racing dogs. I believe someone had to apply to ask for a chance to conduct greyham raising and that would be an issue it presents the racing commission at that time with the two grant a franchise to conduct racing in critical okay so bad so but actually doing away with what what with but actually carrying out on the. What the question before us ears that means what we're trying to do in essence is not allowed anyone else to come in here and set up a. A franchise for operating greyhound racing is that is that not correct is in issues what would we be doing that's a way I would interpret it okay. I guess their mind. Polls and issue because. If someone was to do there. Then they could actually according to the constitution they could actually compete for this this funds that you're talking about they could actually compete for the the french house license over there for the casino could they know representative love the references to the crittened and county is senator or senator i'm sorry. It's reference to operating greyhound racing on december thirty first twenty seventeen so to the external one hundred allows for four licenses to operate a casino catch to qualify for the critical and county one you'd need to be operating but then makes sense thank you. Senators double field thank you man cheer. The same casting what what percentage. Does the state get off the same cast oakland. II don't know if I had I had to they're they're like if you can read a minute one hundred and seven different percentages and then the same occassion is separate and it's not remember that I stuff are here. But okay they the board of writing over southern they have not indicated in any way shape reform that say in ten two continue. Or bring back dog rating. The level that is correct and they have not had the uh. Issue of tearing down the facilities has that been brought now he has not and I think the casino is taken over all that space in their using the space for the casino. So they're just using the the track for the casino of the ground well there was a grand there was a ten to watch the dog racing they're using that space for the casino but you know the track now I had last time that's why didn't go out and take a look to tragedy the last of our looked at the area it was still there uh. But I hope they tave you to have attractive name last time I drove around behind that I could see the candles but II couldn't tell if the track was still there or not. So so the. They grandstand is still attached it attached physically to the casino yes. For what purpose well when they built a billing for the casino they just added onto the grand stand I just attached it at all one building okay okay all right thank you mentioned. Representative. Thank you madame chair for allowed me to assist with question I heard someone say uh a bad appliance for e franchise. So it's now for my end is no longer operating greyhound recently if they decided. Ten years old now would they have to reapply for a franchise or be caused the way the constitution would written they could single license is connected to the there dog recent license how would that work. Picked away the amendment was written if they were doing casino get dog rating in september of two thousand and seventeen then they think I qualified for her license for the casino otherwise it's obvious that they had a head and draft in the amendment south and did an oakland it also so they took care of themselves with that provision but if someone wanted to come in and separately operate a doll track they would have to ask for a dog racing franchise in the casino franch has separate from dog racing for you understand it but what i'm asking if they change their mind in years from now southland in decided that they want to do dog races again what would be their process or that grandfather need effectively I think they could do it legally that if s racing commission for permission to begin racing okay that's all it would probably have to do thank you thank you enough you are there for the questions. So I guess the question before us today is. Typically where used to just deleting an agent zero. Or something this has a lot more far reaching information for. The constitution and all and i'm not sure that that. The perview of this committee. So I guess i'm sort of looking for some recommendation about how we would proceed on this we obviously know we want to get rid of the or do away with the racing commission but how we go about looking at the other issues that are affected by their i'm not sure that we can just go up a piece of legislation that goes away with that without considering some of these other issues that were thought about. So I guess we need to figure out. What our next step is. Are there any suggestions. Present it makes you have some but yeah and a martin mr mailer what will be that the the primary committees in the house and senate that would have general subject matter. Preference in these issues do you know the chambers would choose traditionally gambling issues that go to house rules on the house side and I think they end up in senate state agencies often only the senate start. Now i'm wondering if maybe what we need to do as a committee is recommendable ALC that this issue be submitted to these. I was thinking either house rules or house agri to be set to the suitable primary committees for them to to explore. Yeah. There are now. So so I guess I would make a motion that we would recommend that this issue will be explored by the pertinent house and senate committees that have jurisdiction on on this issue here second. Senator petty clarification on the motion so. With those committees where would we will be taken up immediately or would that have to wait till twenty twenty five. Senator hill. If I add a question on the motion. I said i've got a question on the motion okay I guess what why we were worried about seeing this on another community what can we make a decision here I think they're going to hear the exact same thing we did today. As a one we want to send this to it to another committee whenever we they're going to hear the same information that we heard that I walking we just make a decision today on what we have available because that's what they're going to have available. If I may I guess theoretically we could but the the kind of the the scope of this committee is to look at the licensing of the various entities and cannot was center english and I are thinking is this goes so much beyond just the licensing of the dog racing because it involves everything from taxes and revenues and constitutional amendments and stuff like that and there so it might be better if I get more scrutiny from a the larger more established committees versus as I mean we can make a recommendation and are in our draft report but. Just because it involved so much more than just the license saying that's why we are thinking that it might be prudent to have some is all the committees look at it as well. Thank you. The. So you have made emotion do I hear a second. Second own favor all pose. The motions passed. All right thank you very much so we will begin to think about go through alc and and refer this to appropriate committees. So I guess what will do right now as we will just not do anything on the racing commission until we get some further clarification. So the next thing we I think list had one additional question that came up on this at the last meeting to bring up and then there were some questions on I think the. The one of the other drafts that was approved too but I know less has a little more improvement. So just to address the other question and that was reason the last meeting the question was by repealing this in its entirety referring to the arkansas greyhound racing law if somebody set up dog racing in their backyard will this no longer be able to be regulated what is the avenue to prohibit somebody from setting up the dog tracking their backyard with there be any enforceable mechanisms who would be the responsible party to take complaints about it and the interior as the issues regarding someone setting up dog track would likely be handled by local authorities and local authorities already have some power to regulate activities and property within their drivers diction such as through zoning and noise ordinances local law enforcement would be the responsible party for responding to complaints for potential offenses stemming from at home dog tracks or dog thing what activities could be reported is violations or offenses or subject to regulation would be back dependent a state earlier also as I previously mentioned a persons were gambling on dargery saying that conduct could buy a arkansas code five sixty six one or three which is having a gambling house. So. Any questions on that. I hear some questions. Yeah. Okay thank you very much welcome and just turn no they were in license thing had some questions about section two of the builder after appealing the occupational authorization and life insurer of private employment agency is employment counselors and employment agency managers and they are here today to address that's concerned so mister parker would you care you join us. This. Yeah. Rejoin the tabl. Thank you gentlemen if you would identify yourself you'll be recognized thank you madam chair males morgan on the staff attorney at the department of labor licensing mister parker he's having a medical procedure this morning. Ralph hudson director blaver very good. And. This was brought to me by mister parker kind of live second case that he found with section two and I believe in the exhibit it's the second the last page of the bill that would repeal section to. And i've got some clarification from mr parker he was just concerned that with section two that's a separate issue that shouldn't should not be part of the licensing repeal it has some language about withholdings and so just had a **** you know to be cautious everything else we are on board with repealing licensing wise but he didn't care that section two and. That that was something he thought we might need to keep in so would you explain the little bit more I wish I could center english from what mrperiod parker. His concern was the substance of section too it's not really related to the license. Access and yet with holding and it's a short section. And you know i'm not very versus had no wish mister parker would have explained it better but. It was the last second catch by him and he's out sick today but we are okay with repealing the pea license and that was like I said that the last little catch for that section two e was concerned if that was repealed as well. So i'm how i'm looking at this and somebody else correct me but does this mean then they're like their workers continue and they're unemployment insurance and things like that but that seemed mr miller would you have any idea. I think that gentleman at the end of the table can provide some of the information you're looking for sending english the committee state for avenus. That section is tied to delineating since we since that law literally licenses peace they didn't want there to be any misunderstanding about whether they were ten ninety nine employees or contract employees so that statute literally requires that a p e a or not you still have an obligation. And was holding an an unappointment match and work up that sort of thing just as if they were a regular employee. And so I think mister parker's concern and again we weren't. It was last minute on friday when when when we got his email indicating he had some concerns about it. We both looked at it roughly. His concern is hay that's sort of not tied to the licensing that sort of like withholding and we might want it. Becautious about taking that out without really looking at it and in fact his email to mister morgan and I indicated that he wanted to be a larger take a look at it and help the committee make a decision so he's just trying to be cautious he's just going to make sure that we don't just take take it all in maybe and maybe we shouldn't. Okay. Representative makes mislead have you gotten a copy of that concern from them and you kind of concur with what they're saying or have you not seen that yeah so this was brought to me this morning so I would need some more time to look into this and report back to you guys okay. Is that not just off the top of my head it seems like the request are making is reasonable so I would have no you know as long as everybody's on board I would have no qualms about gone had and moving that we make that adjustment to the draft for our final report because. And I will say representative makes this is the top issue that we often defer to the agency on because it's a national bowl to use around issue and you know a lot of times we would have to consult with them to verify the barrasti there I think it's rooted in the fact that they'll still be a couple of pea's you know the license restructure would be garbage they would still be there operating so I think it was just to avoid confusion that somehow if you were opering is a pa you didn't for some reason after withhold or anything right but you have gotten a cappy of that so is that something you could make to the draft pretty easily then it would just be the removal of sections too to we'd just be leave that line tact and it would make it clear to all peoples that were operating on license that they still had the duty to withhold okay so then that being the case ma'am chaired the proper time i'll make a motion that we make that adjustment that the the agency is recommending to that uh draft what will do is to expire both. Two I eliminate this and start over with them adding I mean leaving that section to you in. That was a lot of remote my motion to expand to the vote by which we approve that at the last committee meeting. I hear a second. Second all in favor all those. Thank you okay. They'll then i'll make a motion that I don't we. Except the draft with the changes that the gentleman have recommended leaving section to an statute or removing that from the repeal. The. The. Second day all post. Okay very good all right then moving right along. The. Missy we have our final report and we have some things to put in that still so represent it makes you have a motion yet so that reporters do by friday and so and to brand us for having to meet again I will i'll make a motion that the committee authorizes the codashchairs of the occupational license you review subcommittee to get final approval of the committees report with the additions and and options that we did today for our submission to alcee by friday. Oh in favor i'll posed. Thank you very much. Okay lead using generators I see oh further. Meeting will be thursday january the eighteenth. At two o'clock in this room merry christmas everybody the meeting is adjourned.