ALC-Administrative Rules

All right members if you could go ahead and grab the seats are gonna get this meeting started we're going to call to order the administrative rule subcommittee. We'll. All right members the first item on the agenda our report to the executive subcommittee. You have one report from the executive subcommittee in your packet regarding its approval of an emergency rule since our last meeting. So do I have a motion about this report. Your motion the second all in favor say aye opposed motion carries all right. All right item C.. the next item is a letter from the department of energy and environment's Arkansas pollution control and ecology Commission concerning rule amendments pursuant ACT seven oh four of twenty twenty one ACT seven oh four allowed an entity not subject to the Arkansas administrative procedure act to make changes to its rules concerning only the replacement of the term regulation with the term rule and references concerning transformation the act required that the entity provide a letter outlining its actions to the Legislative Council in after the entity has filed its updated rules with the Secretary of State on or before January first twenty twenty two members you have a letter in your packet and if there is no objection will review and filed this letter. All right. Next on the agenda are the agency's rules we could get the department of agriculture. Arkansas natural resources commission going down. One if you just introduce yourself for the record and you can presenter rule. Colton Jones staff attorney for the department of agriculture. Chris **** leisure director of the natural resources division of the Arkansas department of agriculture. And right benefit deputy director of the natural resources division of the Arkansas department of agriculture. Great. Mr members of the committee what we have before you today is the rules are required to implement ACT six oh five that passed in the last general session which charge the natural resources commission to draft the rules these rules have been before our commission twice and I have been out for public comment and now we're bringing those back for you for final approval. With that I'll take any questions members any questions. I Mark seeing none without objection this rule is reviewed and approved thank you thank you. And we still got the part of Agatha State Plant Board. Okay so. Hopes. Good morning just introduce yourself for the record you can go and start presenting a rule. Good morning my name is Mike Bynum I'm legal counsel for the Arkansas department of agriculture. Good morning brain you Reynolds at Agra program manager in the past that section department of agriculture. as you can see the rule is related to the implementation of a new of any pesticide disposal fee you have the rule that was provided to be alarmed it's pretty straightforward but if you have any questions we're happy to answer them. The members any questions on this rule. See non without objection this rules reviewed approved thank you. Right I'm D. three department commerce State Insurance Department. One. Push a button there. You just introduce yourself for the record England star. It one more time. Thank you. Members of the committee I'm gray Turner city council for the Arkansas insurance department I'm here for rule are rule thirty one. No. A rule thirty one is a rule intended to implement ACT three ninety seven passed last year that removed an exception to pre licensing education for adjuster applicants. this rule will require new license applicants to be an adjuster independent adjuster in Arkansas to complete pre licensing education before taking their Arkansas insurance adjuster exam which will make them. This have the same requirements as other insurance producers in the state. I thank you members any questions on this rule. Jean no questions without objection this rules review and approve thank you thank you Mr. All right we're still in the insurance department we have item three B. rule sixty five credit for reinsurance. Welcome back. The member push your button and introduce yourself for the record and then you can explain this rule. On. My name's Amanda rose associate counsel with the insurance department. I have with me Mister L. Anderson his deputy commissioner for financial regulation and we're here with a proposed amendment to rule sixty five regarding credit for reinsurance we held our public hearing at the department on December I'm sorry yes December the tenth. this rule implements ACT twelve forty which was passed in the last regular session. And it becomes a national accreditation standard in September. It simply implements the law that we passed in the last session. The only change that I think we need to make is the effective date we had high hopes that we would get through this entire process by January one but we will need to change the effective date to accommodate the ten day delay after we get this filed with the Secretary of State but that would be the only change. All right members you've heard the ruling explanation are there any questions. Single questions and without objection this rule is viewed approved thank you thank you. Item four department of commerce division of workforce services. Warning you would just push a button there and then introduce yourself for the record and you can explain your rule okay my name is Darrell Taylor I endo systems support analyst for the Division workforce services. Good morning and I'm tenho Richards and I am the tenant policy unit manager at the division of workforce services thank you. And the revision that we're doing is to our work pays policy and basically we're incorporating the eligibility peas from DHS to DW's and with the workplace application we're incorporating language regarding bill the legal use of the B. two cart will also add language about compliance with civil rights and we're also changing information from of the Department of Human Services to division of workforce services. Any questions. Members any questions. Axing nine without objection Israel is reviewed and approved thank you. All right members that takes us to item five the Arkansas ethics commission. Good morning just introduce yourself for the record you going presenter rule good morning I'm John barman the Arkansas ethics commission I'm through Blankinship a staff attorney the Arkansas Commission that we're working on item five a which is the rules on political committees. Yes Sir we have for you today two sets of rules in the first set is the rule amendments to the rules on political committees and these changes simply implement legislation passed during the ninety third General Assembly likewise some stylistic changes that were suggested by the bureau of legislative research and we'd be happy to answer any questions for you. Members any questions on item five eight. Currency nine thought objection this rules reviewed approved we're going on to five be. Thank you Sir we also have for you today amendments to the rules on campaign finance and disclosure these changes do stem from legislation passed during the ninety third General Assembly there were ten acts passed that necessitated changes to the rules on campaign finance and disclosure and we'll be happy to answer any questions for you. Members any questions on this item. Seeing none the objection this rule is reviewed and approved thank you thank you. I members item six the department of finance administration alcohol beverage control. Good morning just introduce yourself for the record you going present items six Hey really Chandler director of alcoholic beverage control and I have with me Michael Lewis staff attorney. The first senate roles we have five rules that are implementing ACT seven oh three ACT one fifty eight an act ten sixty which are the delivery rules to allow alcoholic beverages to be removed and delivered. Those are gonna be the. Review activities roll one point seven nine twenty seven microbrewery restaurant delivery rolls two point five eight point one the smaller packages are you on what we need to do the one at a time are you on six a on our agenda it's. Talking to prohibit yes it activities yes okay and I can go there when the time the other system wanted to separate activities roll one point seven nine twenty seven it is implementing ACT seven oh three of twenty twenty one authorizing permit holders to have a restaurant at a restaurant to sell alcoholic beverages to consumers for off premises consumption be a delivery or to go orders. Since with the wanted on members any questions on this particular rule. Icing on the object in that rule is re reviewed and approved we can go ahead item sixty. Several two point five eight point one is the microbrewery restaurant delivery rule is implementing ACT one fifty eight of tens and ten sixty authorizing microbrewery restaurants to deliver alcoholic beverage is directly to the consumers. All right items that that I'm also included at later in the session the hard cider rules as well right yes these these five rules that were discussed herein out they kinda lap over in our rules that we have to go through and set out to allow them to do the delivery and then we have a section that sets out the rules consistent with the different various acts of how the delivery process will work okay our members or any questions on six B.. All right saying nine six B. without objection is reviewed and approved and we go and go to see a section two point six five point one small brewery delivery this is ACT one fifty eight authorizing small breweries to deliver the alcoholic beverages directly to a consumer. Members any questions on this item. Emergency number that objection this rules reviewed approved. Section two point eight three point one hard cider manufacturing delivery is under act ten sixty authorizing hard cider manufactures delivers alcoholic beverages directly to consumers. Members any questions on this rule. Seeing none without objection this rules review and approve. Rolls two point three point zero to three point two eight or the to go and delivery rules these are the rules there and compensating all of the acts all three ACT setting forth the to go rules for delivery from the point of sale how they are picked up how they're delivered at a residence the definition mail definition of restaurant as well as the sizes along with the requirement of a closed container. All right thank you members item he any questions. I'm saying I'm not objection this rule is reviewed and approved. I'm F. the next role is roll two point one two. It is with ACT seven oh six to allow the Steelers to self distribute. All right members any questions on this item. Using non without objection this really reviewed and approved. Rule two point eight five also goes along with ACT seven oh six it is setting up sets out the cases and gallons Jing gallons of spare districts that the distillers can self distribute. Members any questions on this rule. All right without objection this rule is reviewed approved. The rule three point seven is retailers purchase only from permitted wholesalers This Is well goes with accent six this is allowing the distillers to sell district licensed retailers in addition to wholesalers. Members any questions. Without objection is rules reviewed approved. The next set of roles as roll three point two nine three three point three four these are the excursion train rule permits to implement of the act sixty eight align FOR excursion trains to be a permitted alcoholic beverage location. Members any questions on this rule. Seeing none without objection is rules repeat reviewed and approved. Direction of an S. liquor or made rule two point seven five this is implementing ACT two seventy one along the direction you meant of Venus liquor act to include made as a separate line item. All right members any questions. The number that objection this rule is reviewed and approved. Definitions made roll two point one zero point three this is setting forth percent ACT two sitting on the definition of made in the rules. Members any questions. Right the objection is rules reviewed approved. Advertising for microbrewery restaurant club rule five point nine zero this is implementing ACT eight eighty five applying a microbrewery private clubs that are with and that. Wet counties to add that have dry territories within them to advertise for social functions of general interest. Our members any questions on this rule. The number that objection is rules reviewed and approved. Advertisement microbrewery private restaurant private clubs in a dry area section five point nine one this is also implementing ACT eight eighty five creating the ability for the microbrewery to advertise not just social functions but advertise its own business within those dry territories within west counties. I thank you members any questions on this rule. Right without objection this rule reviewed and approved. Types of permits for which application may be made rule one point one nine thirty nine this is implementing ACT four oh nine where there was a changing the location of the word solely within the statute. Members any questions. Ninety nine without objection this rule is reviewed and approved we kept a busy on. You'll see me to more time right all right. Thank you thank you. Members next up is item seven department of health State Board of acupuncture and related techniques. Good morning to you would just introduce yourself for the record then you can go ahead presenter role. Russell Barnes director of acupuncture and related techniques board. Matt Gilmore department health. Each of the rules that the board proposes is a change in regard to legislation that was passed in the last session. These involve changing up some language and updating to adhere to the recently passed laws and I'd be happy to take any questions. All right members any questions from the state board of acupuncture. Ninety nine without objection this rule is reviewed and approved. Thank you he's got one more for other border. And the one cannot be Russell Barnes you can still be him yet. And I'm the director of the Arkansas State Board of athletic trainer. There was one item a eight a excuse me are go ahead. A similar to the acupuncture board most of the rules that have led to training board proposes or changes in regard to legislation that was passed in the last session but there are some proposed changes to update the board's disciplinary process These changes really kind of a misnomer it's actually just clarification these are existing board office practices the board just wish to have a written into the rules for clarification. Our members any questions on item eight a. Hi NO questions without objection this rule reviewed and approved. Thank you sticking around I am yes okay thank you Sir. Our members item nine where it's still department of health and Arkansas board of examiners and counseling. Morning. Thank you. One R. Erickson executive director Arkansas board of examiners and counseling good morning going presenter rule. All the proposed revisions that we did work to choose the referenced acts of twenty twenty one that went into effect. If you have any questions there was any questions on item nine eight. Ninety nine The objection this rules reviewed and approved thank you thank you. The ground again yes Sir. We're still on the part of help Arkansas Board of dispensing opticians. This morning good morning one hundred secretary treasurer of the Arkansas state board of dispensing opticians are proposed rules changes are being made to comply with legislation from the twenty twenty one legislative session. Changes to rule nine moons remains good moral character which is required by act nine ninety of twenty nineteen and enhance language regarding applications with her work permit and accordingly Act seven forty six. Twenty one. thank you members any questions on this rule. Seeing none without objection this rule is reviewed approved thank you thank thank you. Members item eleven is the Arkansas Board of hearing instrument dispensers. Mr chairman to this one okay and he's got somebody coming up to okay. Morning. I'm Stephanie Pratt on the executive director for the board of hearing instrument dispensers our rules are being amended and language updated in compliance with act one thirty five ACT seven forty six ACT seven twenty five ACT one fifty nine ACT eleven at seven forty A. all implemented and or updated in two thousand twenty one. Okay can you give us as an overview what what you're changing in your rules so what we're changing is our form is being updated to where it listed a specific type of. Number of board members to where it's now just a majority of the voting board members We've also implemented The. We now recognize a a national license. To reciprocate with the state Mister chair that's also some language they're working with the work permits for Act seven forty six of twenty twenty one clarifying that there's also some language there for the apprenticeship a bill that was passed ACT eight eleven twenty twenty one they have a few cleanup areas as well but most of their rules are due to legislation that all right thank you for that members any questions on this rule. Seeing them that objection this rule is reviewed and approved thank you. And next up item twelve or the Arkansas state board of nursing. Good morning just a push of a button there went to turns red you're on and introduce yourself the record and you can begin presenting a rule. Go. Senator Rapert executive director board of nursing. Good morning David Dawson general counsel for the board of nursing one. All right we have four chapters at for I have revision with rules majority of the chapters have revisions related to statutory changes in twenty twenty one some clean up would you like me to go through each chapter or yes I think you probably need to do one at a time. You want specifics of every change in each chapter does not be everything just kind of an overview of the changes made. Okay we made changes to section two of chapter one related to act for forty nine ACT six of seven. We make changes to definitions as related to at four forty nine ACT six fifty one X. or twelve X. six oh seven and. Some clean up language that that rule was defining consultation I guess is that yes that's what it's doing a consultation we did not have that okay. All right members of the one of the tower of any questions on twelve eight. Without objection this rule reviewed approved in going to on our agenda twelve B.. Okay delegation. Okay changes made chapter for your twelve V. was result of at four thirty nine at ten fifty four twenty twenty one. Okay members any questions on this one. Ninety nine without objection this rule is reviewed and approved. Chapter six which is your twelve C. we may provisions there is a clean up on the title of the Department of higher ed and we make revisions as a result of at seven fifty nine and seven fifty seven. There was any questions on this item. Morning Mr for would you just give me a brief explanation of the relationship between you and higher ed as far as who has the final authority if someone goes through a program. And passes the programming challenges and takes the board for their respective. discipline that you're over the authority of you alternately control whether or not they get the licensure regardless is that a correct interpretation or partially correct in order for an individual who graduates from a nursing program to take the licensure exam they must graduate from a board appraise program so you can have a program it is not board approved you can't take the licensure exam at all so the board has the final approval of all programs so when it comes to the interaction of the nursing board and hi read programs. It's essential that you have some way in as far as what those programs ultimately look like yes because at the end of the day you control you control the license regardless of whatever happens up to that point correct that is an out of state program another board of nursing can approve the program in our higher it will just bless the program. It meets their standards okay all right thank you. Thank you senator all right well you were you done presenting that rule yes I had at okay members any other questions on this item. Sing number that objection this rule is reviewed and approved we're on your chapter seven our twelve the. Changes were made to this chapter we added the definition as a result of ACT three forty six what was the definition of it the at three forty six had to do with performing an authorized pelvic exams so we brought it to say that it was abolished the nurse practice act to performing a healthcare related at this prohibited by statute regulation or failing to perform when that is required by state your Rick regulation is a violation okay thank you members any questions on the side of. This. Members of a single questions on this rule without objection this rule is reviewed and approved. Thank you Committee and he I believe senator Hammer has a question. Refresh my memory we had discussion week or two ago where are we on the rules as far as full independent practice for a PR ends I know they are the rating on the governor to review and send back to us and we will start our thirty day comment period March so you haven't started the thirty day comment period they're with you governor right now yes okay if he's not reviewing that piece of it but it's in that chapter that he's reviewing. Okay all right so probably. Mister chair that they have been reviewed by the governor's office or start a public comments and so. That's great that's that's great so by the time we come back after fiscal session which you know probably around against our next me would be April we should expect to have a before since the skews me the and appellate practice committee those rules have been approved okay there is a portion of her rule that he is that the government is reviewing but they're moving quickly okay so it hopefully the next couple months or so okay that's great thanks for the update thank you engine thank you very much thank you our members are on item thirteen still in the form of health Arkansas state board of pharmacy. Thank you Mr I'm John program directors board of pharmacy look Daniel general counsel state board of pharmacy one we have three rules in front of you today of the first one is our actual rule one general operations it has changes I did ACT one thirty five of twenty twenty one ACT sixty three of one of twenty twenty one we have to answer any questions you have on those. Members any questions on this item. Thing number objection this rules reviewed approved. The next we have is rule five long term care facilities we had changes to that are moving terminology for nursing home consultant permits the actual endorsement requirement as part X. sixty three of twenty twenty one be happy to answer any questions members any questions on this item. The number that objection this rule is reviewed and approved and the last we have this rule nine pharmaceutical care patient counseling it has changes due to act sixty three of twenty twenty one as well as ACT four oh six and ACT four oh seven of twenty twenty one right answer any questions what were you change in that one what what were those so in that we are removing terminology to the endorsement requirement for disease state management and then ACT four oh six I regarding the ability for pharmacist who ordered minister immunizations on a broader scale help match some of the federal regulatory criteria it come four ACT four oh seven added in the ability for pharmacists to delegate that administration to a properly trained pharmacy technicians are members any questions on this rule. Senator hammer on that on that four seven does the pharmacist have to be in the building or can it be a tell me tell me about proximity so so here's how it has been fine for ever basically for us for any time the pharmacist is delegating a duty to a pharmacy technician they have to have immediate personal supervision so we say aye aye site your shot so understanding that they are in the the same permitted space the same space for their administering that so that they are right there not necessarily right here over their shoulder of their in the immediate vicinity to supervise that. Would that allow for like say flu shots or for covert charge that might be administered at the school to be done without the presence of a pharmacist no not without the presence of forms as we have pharmacies and pharmacists that do that actually take their support staff but there's always a pharmacist there with them okay good anything that matches the federal criteria as well thanks. All right thank you senator our members you've heard the items thirteen zero nine any questions. Ninety nine without objection this item is reviewed and approved thanks John. If you. Do not stand for the next one. M. fourteen Department of Human Services division of medical services. Good morning if you would just introduce yourself for the record and then you can begin presenting your rule Lizabeth pending with the Division of Medical Services I Mark why do you just. And this role is I bring forth a permanent role that we had approved by the executive subcommittee back in November of twenty twenty one it allows for that home administration of the cover nineteen vaccine by home health nurses and pharmacists for patients who are unable to leave their home to get the vaccine and happy to answer any questions. Present a questions on this item. Thing without objection this rule is reviewed and approved thank you. Our members moving on to item fifteen department of labor in licensing this will be the state board of architects landscape architects and interior designers. Good morning just introduce yourself for the record you begin. To celebrate the Director of the Arkansas state board of architects landscape architects and interior designers miles Morgan associate counsel department labor and licensing. The road rules before you reflect changes from both the twenty nineteen legislative session as well as the twenty twenty one session rulemaking was not completed within the twenty twenty one session when the twenty twenty one session began as many of the subjects with the same divorce simply start over with the rule making key changes are we removed reference to regular regulation or changes the reference to to rule ACT three fifteen of twenty nineteen add language regarding initial licensing fee waiver for eligible individuals per ACT seven twenty five of twenty twenty S. process for automatic licensure for uniform service members veterans and spouses ACT eight twenty of twenty nineteen ACT one thirty five or twenty twenty S. pre licensure criminal background check and disqualifying conviction waiver process is at nine ninety of twenty nineteen and X. seven forty eight of twenty twenty one provides a statement of license eligibility for applicants who hold work permits per ACT seven forty six of twenty twenty one and changes rage registration process for landscape architecture certificate applicants to register for examination directly with the council of landscape architects architecture registration boards which is Clark the nationalist organization of state boards this is the only non legislative mandate it change it allows for a speedier exam process and brings Arkansas aligned with the prevailing national training and if you have any questions I'll be happy to answer nine members any questions. You saying im that objection is rules reviewed approved thank you very much thank you. Our members that completes item D. were on two items ET. Our This Is Your January monthly written update percent ACT five ninety five of twenty twenty one as you recall these are the agency's updates regarding the status of the rulemaking implement implementing twenty twenty one legislation are there any questions on item each. All right if there is no objection we're gonna file these January updates. I move this along to item F.. This next item will be the agency request to be excluded from ACT five ninety five reporting requirements at five ninety five. Allow the subcommittee to exclude an agency from the reporting requirements if it determines that the required rule is not necessary including without limitation determining that the rule would merely restate the newly enacted law additionally an agency may submit a written notification that there is litigation involving the newly acted and acted law and shall be excluded from reporting requirements until such litigation is all all right. First we're gonna have come up would be department of commerce. Arkansas Economic Development Commission. You would just introduce yourself and then you can explain your request to be excluded. Thank you Mr chairman more committee jim Hudson with ADC the rule that would be applicable here if you're on a roll relates to act five ninety four which is the would log of wood fiber logging tax credit program if you look AT ACT five ninety four it is incredibly detailed very specific lots of processes or hardwired into the statute there actually is no conferring authority on the agency in the statue to promulgate rules I want to first criteria for promulgating rules the governor's instructed us to look at is is a rule necessary are we just kind of increasing number rules are out there. We determine their role is necessary statutes sufficient standing on some for us to be able to implement administer this act and with that happy take any questions. I members have any questions on this. All right seeing that drive a motion to approve the agency request for exclusion. I have a motion the second all those in favor say aye. Posed guys have a motion carries thank you Sir members we have one more I don't have to the Department of Human Services. Morning. Mr thank you more quite DHS this is rose to act in seventeen this was a essentially the cleanup bill related to our oversight of long term care and other health care facilities most of the actors has nothing to do with the rules others one section of the in the that does address some things that does does require rulemaking and as we did our initial pass we thought we'll still ruled cover this more we dug into it though we saw that would require his or covered in our existing rules and so it think there's a need to duplicate that in a separate standing rules that's what we're asking for that to be excluded all right thank you members any questions. Correcting under a motion to approve this request the motion the second all those in favor say aye. Posed as haven't motion carries thank you for. I move that concludes our initial agenda we're gonna turn over to a supplemental agenda without objection will suspend the rules to consider the agent's request on supplemental agenda. Yes and members just to be a just to be clear. The first one you see on there item A. one through A. one A. through a one he has been pulled down so we're gonna go and skip on down the item to as the department of commerce again the Arkansas my Arkansas Economic Development Commission. He. Welcome back. Thank you Mr chairman jim Hudson ADC what we have is a proposed rule that to makes permanent emergency rule that that was adopted in November by the executive subcommittee and the purpose the rule really addresses the payment terms for grants under the Arkansas rule connect broadband program the question it was kind of raised a nail C. that particular week in November was you know when recipients of grants were to receive the grant funds themselves we have had a practice when cares Act money was available to us to provide that money up front and then do some reporting and accounting on the backend it was the request of the legislature that we start you really kind of disbursing funds as the expenses are incurred. So we adopt an emergency rule really restored the original rules on the program that provided four quarterly payments to the grant recipients that was emergency rule that was adopted we begin the promulgation process to make that rule permanent as you went through the promulgation process we began to get some feedback both from this body and also from of the internet service providers vertically the smaller ones. That a quarterly payment process would negatively impact their their cash flow and so asked us to consider you know changing that up so that we could get money to them a little bit sooner so the rule that you have in front of you today would allow for reimbursement. After expenses are incurred so expenses still like to be incurred first rocking provide up front payments but they can submit an invoice to us as soon as that expenses incurred and then up to no later than sixty days following the close of a quarter stable window there to be able to submit their expenses to us so we feel like that was a good accommodation that we can make to the ISPs to good ones for a little bit smaller but more cash flow constrained. So they have to take any questions. Members any questions on this item representative Eubanks. Thank you Mr chair so that the providers are. Where you're changing are okay with this. Yes Sir the the feedback that we've gotten to work with members of the body was that their support of this chapter right thank you. Thank you representative members any other questions. Seeing other questions without objection this rule is reviewed approved thanks Sir thank you Sir. Hi members finally we have some rules recommending an expedited process and procedure for occupational licensure of the uniformed service members veterans and their spouses pursuant to act one thirty five of twenty twenty one this is the preliminary review prior to the public comment period the rules will be returned to the subcommittee for review and approval after the public comment period expires so need someone from the agency please come up and introduce yourself for the record explain the proposed rules. One item one. Members this is item B. one department of labor licensing division of occupational and professional licensing board Arkansas fire protection. Are you introduce yourself for the record you can go and presents rule thank you Baal's Morgan associate counsel with the Department labour and licensing. Petition white director for the Arkansas fire protection licensing. Mitch bloom with the fire protection licensing board. I'm going presenter proposed rule. We're just asking for the word I have automatic licensure beats I change to expedient in the rules. All right members any questions on this one. I've got. Good morning jail as just go a little deeper an explanation what what's the purpose of the change issue so case we get as we get a better understanding yes Sir to receive a license that an individual has to work for a company a licensed company. Whether it's spring her whether it's portable or fixed. That individual has to come and take an exam to take that licenses we stay rather busy we give exams twice and Matt Back then and so therefore there's a waiting list what we would do for a military person or spouse of military in expediting is getting that person instead of putting them on a waiting list. Getting a man to take that test that day if if possible so that's I mean it would be like automatic it's just you have to take a test to get it so we would to means testing immediately okay so they came in on Monday in the test was going to be for a week from Monday you could test of that money will is doing to get the floodgates opened capsule and it's the same test every office Zacks our thank you you're welcome. Right representative gray recognized thank you Mr chair number over here I think it's automatic expedient are two completely different words so we're just talking about the actual set up for testing so instead of saying you automatically are getting tested in the next round we're saying we're going to make sure it's expediently none is that exactly okay. Okay thank you. Thank you representative are members I think to be clear we and you can correct me if I'm wrong we're we kind of lump these two together you doing the same thing for sprinkler systems as your portable intake systems exactly okay we'll we'll keep that together members any questions on either these two rules. All right C. number dot objection both of these rules are reviewed and approved thank you thank you just reviewed actually excuse me not not approve thank you see you next time. Members that concludes all the items on our agenda we are adjourned.