Education Committee - Senate

A negative reaction isn't no will be able to put that in each one of the schools there is no cost to them because we do have moneys already available through the opium opioid division over here and I've got these folks here to help me out if I have not sent a correctly and I'd be happy to take any questions. And any questions in the audience from the Committee. If they have an opiate opioid overdose we get those kids as no general revenue impact yadda yadda yadda. And I will do pass. Are there any questions from the committee. Thirty body in the audience to speak for against this bill I have a number of people here ready to speak for it but if we don't have to now I will consolidate the business of the committee. Okay Mr line is here who helped whose division it is that the money will come from not from general revenues so we have a motion center Chesterfield. Do pass second by Senator Davis all in favor. All thank you thank you very much thank you madam chair thank you members of the committee and I. Today to provide that service thank you. Okay. So would you have a story so. US senator Wallace. What is your bill number again for you know for okay so would you come and tell us what you found out. Identify yourself and you'll be on. Ready to go. Hey. I'm angel Bagley the publisher of the hell in the world. Senator Wallace. We we get the answer the question to rest and okay so isolation this morning were well what we had I wanted to make sure that the is that senator Dodson. We do all would you like to read refresh your memory. Thank you madam chair questions related to. Whether or not this would supersede the Act or the I guess I don't know if it's an act quite yet or not but I think it's on the governor's desk that senator Payton went through with the elimination of the three fifty automatic consolidation and how this would relate to that and if it would be reinstated or not. That meant. You might not on. I visited with Payton and he call bill are and he said he had no problem with my bill they would should not miss his bill is not a conflict. Yes senator English the the the the salient points dealing with the roadblock that came up this morning and and and why representative McElroy asked me to come over here because I've been trying to helping with this bill because my very first job teaching after graduate schools in a line Arkansas and it's very special community to me this bill has an emergency clause and the reason it has an emergency clause is because Marvel has to have help now. Because the vote trying I from desi to dissolve it and annex it is steadily moving down the road. So they have to have statutory relief so this bill will go into effect if it passes and the governor signs. Then a few months down the road as soon Senator Peyton's bill was signed by the governor his bill would take effect and that and and and and that's fine marble just needs a little time so that it can take advantage of learned so that's the salient point to that question so so basically you're saying since this has an emergency clause it will go into effect but senator Payton's the does not have an emergency clause when it takes effect ninety days after signing by will then come in and delete this section we're talking about that's my understanding of the way that it works and and that will be fine because Senator pages bill limits the three fifty for everybody but it did not have an emergency clause so this bill will give Marvel the relief they need so that they can take advantage of the wonderful and innovative portions of the learns bill that I I think they deserve I don't know how many of you've been snow like Arkansas. But I remember when as a young man teaching sixth grade. I had students but that that that lived down there and it's a portion of the state county that is essentially a peninsula that cannot reach the rest of the state county by way. and so there are people with houses on high ground inside the levy that when it rains a lot their children have to get a vote and then catch the bus eight eight is that geographically isolated isolated place in the state of Arkansas and the only way to correct that would be to spend millions building a road and a couple of bridges over over rivers so that they could get near representative Mike Wallace House and and so this is a very unique situation and their time frames because my one deadline for the state board to take some action looms and and mark was one of those places that has good facilities immense potential and I think it will be an ideal showcase for learns provisions to be implemented. I guess you. You've raised another question my mind with regards to the learns Act making advantage of some of the provisions within their and I'm trying to think through so what some of those provisions are because it was a lengthy piece of legislation but it did have an emergency clause so it is in effect and so the taking advantage of some of the things that you're you're talking about can can happen like now except for the state board. Use this discretion to move Marvel to level five which made them an eligible for the three hundred and fifty of the waiver from the three hundred fifty student minimum. if if that had not happened and the waiver had continued then your exactly right senator that they could have taken advantage of that but instead since I made that decision that in. The waiver is not granted and time lines are in statute that that are that are coming Marvel did not submit a voluntary consolidation plan because quite frankly there were two proposals submitted those proposals are not practical and a geographically another consolidation in that area is not practical I would not go ahead. So. If I remember correctly one of the provisions within learns has the ability for the department to work with the district or the district to work with and and I forget what the levels were in there I think it was level five but the allowance for them to I guess But negotiate with a third party to try to have the ability to whether it's like a charter school or something else like that take to help administer a et seq. Where the hold this in your exactly right Senate but we have a very narrow set of circumstances marvelous level five. They are also under that three hundred fifty student minimum that remains in the law as a senator Payton's bill has not yet been signed and when it signed it will only go into affect certain nine days after session so this is this is a very narrow set of circumstances effect and of very narrow set of a fax and if this bill can pass then Marvel can do those things like third party managed and restructure their salary schedules to meet the tailor them to meet their needs have you talked to the Department secretary leave a and try to figure out. Like are they are they helping you with this bill is are they for this act we have a story in our paper today of secretarial leave was a visit to Helena to visit with surgeons Great Rivers co op means very gracious news media people granted our paper and we also on the Brinkley paper an interview with him and I asked him about house bill fifteen oh four and out last week on Thursday he said the department takes no position. Man that's in today's edition and how an imprint of thank you to yes. Thank you madam chair. The problem. They were dealing with in in marmalade nine is that it is imminent. Learns is going into effect it would have it would give them a great opportunity. A great opportunity but if. What the state board holds true we won't have an opportunity at all to do what we need to do and then we will have to be annexed into another it is the model was a stand alone school district for a long time my name is a stand alone district for a long time at some placed back in the day probably know made was to because then we had two thousand or more school districts across the state of Arkansas we have consolidate those school districts. We have destroyed communities as we have done. Because many of them the life of the totality of the community wise the school. It was the economic engine for the community now we have children in a place called snow lake that until you see it probably won't believe what it looks like you have to see if there's some things in this in this state that you have to see to believe. No lake is now merged with the line Elaine and snowflake a now members was Marvell Elaine these kids are already on the bus. Over an hour every day. They're already on the bus over an hour. The state has been in control of it for a long time six or seven years we still have a school district that has now been placed in distress level five. The learns that gives them the opportunity to partner with. Another charter school a private company to get it done some of the things that need to be done these kids are to put these kids in a better position to mark and yet the laminate and assess the for them being on the bus and even longer period of time. Secretario leave a cannot undo what the state board has done. I believe that allowing his department to come in. And provide those services that we have on the learns would be a huge asset. And so that's one of the reasons that I'm one of the bill I don't think he's need to be on the bus your kids when I met just high school kids would come a little kids up before dark. One home getting home after dark no chance participate in any activities because there what on the bus. And so what we can do this quickly. We can get them a little mitigation we can get the services under learns that I think will be significant for them. Without putting kids on a bus for a long period of time. And so. I know lately is it is it is so interesting to know because it is an island unto itself almost but our children are not islands unto themselves and they deserve an opportunity not to have to travel longer there are many on the bus over an hour and if you talk about. Stops starts stops starts as well over an hour getting back and forth I have traveled the area and I can attest to the fact that it is not wholesome for any job. Members this is repealed is a bridge is a bridge that gets us to John Payton is bill. That's right did you have on the. Thanks. Any other questions by the committee. There anybody in the audience to speak for against the bill are you will close the bill would close. Yes ma'am I'd like to close at. All I'm trying to do it is savers who along Pala jazz for and I'm not too proud to be please this give these kids a chance thank you Committee. Senator still. Do pass okay senator Chesterfield seconds all in favor hi all those. Thank you Committee right. Okay are you here. What what are you doing. Seventeen thirty three okay. Senator Irvin seventeen thirty three. House bill seventeen thirty three. I apologize. I think we. You saw. Right. Yeah. You identify yourself you will be recognized thank you member Senator Missy Irvin district twenty four this is how seventeen thirty three with the wings bill. And. It's the rock Arkansas right to play acts in this bill has gone through a lot of great work with a lot of great folks and so it's an agreed to bill with the triple AA and and the language in the bill addresses that McKinney vento and federal laws and put in place for a student that has the McKinney vento status that create the process very clear and statute that those those as students would be able to participate in play based on that federal law so clarifies that and it also incorporates Senator Davis's language from her bill and I was working on this exactly the same time to allow students to play in clubs sports and during their high school season for primarily the sport of soccer the reason why and the way that we wrote it is really focused for soccer we have exempted out football basketball baseball softball and volleyball per the request of and both members as myself and work with the triple a and also with the superintendent and are not to pretend athletic directors and coaches the primarily because of soccer the way that those seasons are in in high school soccer and in the spring is when our season is but that's also when the showcases occur for those students to go and participate in playing over the weekend so that they can earn scholarships and plan opportunities at the next level so this this bill would allow those kids not to have to make a choice between playing their club sport and those showcases and trying to earn opportunities to play the next level and choosing between that or other high school season in the high school sports so I we have a lot of ecstatic soccer fans think and and kids that are are anticipating hoping this bill will pass. Ed to give them that ability options and and then I can that is really the primary and the I will say also when it as regards to the different entities in the process for appeal that was originally in the bill triple a is to work on such rules and around that appeal process during the interim and bring it back to us as well as the penalty part that was in here that was taken out so I appreciate representive eleven and his work with us and. As well so with that I'll be happy to answer any questions the questions from the committee. But in the audience like to speak for against the bill. But. Like to close the. I'm close I appreciate a good vote. What is the will of the committee. Do pass Senator Davis second. That said senator Chesterfield all they were. All those thank you as soon as thank you thank you so much thank. Interest. Thanks. Senate. Yeah. Sixteen eighty nine okay let's let her runners. What is that number. Yeah. Seventeen thirty eight the. I have. Go ahead. You have an amendment is submitted thank you have a minute yes. Oh gosh. Well we. We're. What is seventeen thirty eight a. So I'll be really honest with you we we have a real problem and we get amendments like this and that's one or two lines we can put it in but nobody really knows what the bill says what well we're adding an amendment. And the. Hello. Yes of. So this is a race bill. A line. The group. She is. That. So what is it that in your bill. We went. One access to. Cool and then they have. And. And The school we have a. The Bill pass. The Bill. Changes. Eight. Discourage. That's. And then. Motion to adopt the center at all. Chesterfield devoting voting on the motion no I'm not I'm just have some questions. Back on. I've always got the parents hit parental rights you know they did all the thirty three years I was in the classroom and expressed and will my concern was not that it is not the heart of the bill is just that it seems so patently unfair and I've said it before and other bills to come in with a three page three pages of amendments you gotta find out if the aligned with what is in line one nine thirty five Page one line thirty five page two nine two and that just seems so unfair. He just seems so if it does me I just you know I'm not a foolish consistency maybe the Hobbs of the lines but it is it is a concern to me that we. Would be dealing with stuff that is going to have implications going forward and we don't know what really is in the bill because this is on the outs that the above that's just me my concern I don't know that anybody else. Thank. Senator Hammer. I'm sure would be appropriate passed Courtney to come to the table for misogynist questions about the amendment please only. Yes I did by yourself to be recognized good afternoon courting solace for chief of staff for the department of education. Thank you measure Courtney if you had a chance to look at this amendment and does that harmonize with the learns Act and. Three they will not be surprised by. At no Sir no Sir to the surprise yes to the it does harmonize with learns we worked with representatives McAlinden to again a line with that and make references to any other existing laws that already afforded parents those right so that there was no conflicts. Okay thank you thank you measure. Any other questions. Certainly. Page three line fifteen delete three eighty answer two two eight to find the committee. If you're if. Page three line fifteen delete the a and substitute Q. eight and Page three line twenty five delete shall and substitute chapters on educational rights and privacy explain that to me and the change. Specifically within the bill. Again senator we added the reference to the education you referring to tell me we are at nine Page three line twenty five okay where it says two delete child and substitute child pursuant to family educational rights and privacy act we added the reference to purpose so that it would be in alignment and people could if you're familiar with her but I and I know senator you are but for it for parents who are looking at this knowing that the same rights that they have under for but is what we are referring to in this bill and so parents already have these rights. Yes ma'am. I guess my point. Parents already have these rights in the academy since time immemorial they can remove a child from the classroom that they don't like that the teachers don't they did it for me the whole time I was there I never had the request but I saw of disobedient request so I'm trying to figure out what we're fixing it parents already have these rights or is it just important that we say they have these rights is that what this is about it is I have I have gotten a lot of parents in my district but also across the state because of another job that I have I hear from parents asking for a quote here is bill of rights they want to know if there is someplace that they can go to and find that they don't have to dig through code and find them and so that's why this references other parts of code that we do have rights making sure that parents are aware of what they have there should be nothing here that is in conflict with that is new and as I said we are not trying to put anything additional on the schools of which is wearing we're not asking them to published materials were asking them to make materials available if you didn't know the pairs it with whom you've visited. You didn't know that you already have these rights. You mean with the amendment not period that you already had the right number but to do all the things that you have in your bill I know that we have the rights yes but I have we don't know that but who aren't as familiar with the laws we are thank you. Amber Davis. Thank you madam chair at I think my biggest concern is on page five line to you and I don't see that the amendment. And. Deals with that. But. All of these have to be available out to review at including materials at the materials required textbooks the lesson plans. And for like the whole year I just teachers are constantly like changing and adjusting even the week before it got maybe the day before and I just. They'll be in violation of this law so how do we do like. The October one is just that isn't. Our state can you help me understand need to be sure that parents have the ability to go and ask what things are going to be taught with the lesson plans were by the time that the school year was really starting in under way right and so that was the the purpose of just having a date to make sure they were available obviously it's going to change and that's one of the reasons also why we decided to not asking to be published because things are gonna change if it's how much that has to constantly be updated and that's a lot of a burden on the schools and on the administrators to have to do that so this way if a parent doesn't ask for a lesson plan digital code with the current lesson plan is ensure that with the parent so it can be kind of a fluid living docket. But. You want to use to prepare. A full course syllabus. Yeah every lesson plans. In late October. Well I think that teachers will have they're still buying. Right and they will have lesson plans. I'm saying this is what you are requiring by this bill and that's what teachers will have a lot of that available right now we will. No we don't okay because let me check your you want because we're just getting in or Kate. And you have to monitor and adjust lesson plans. Pursuant to the make up of the classroom. I will have a whole nother Sullivan I lesson plan in place if if for instance I have a large number of special needs kids I can have the same thing that I thought I would have because the make up of the class is not been set sometimes by October one. And lesson plans and some of that are predicated on the kids in your class. It was all this rule good pretty soon we're not going back to school. Because you want and I think it talking to myself as a present teacher but it's a nightmare. Have the mature some of the materials teaching materials and not even have by that time. It would be nice if they had but they haven't. And so you the required checks but sometimes they get there on time sometimes they don't but if it's all got to be there not till the first we've got a lot all of that by October first. Is really putting a huge burden on the folks who got to deliver this for you those concerns that I have and when we talk about these things these are people that we're dealing with and the students in their classroom dictate. But the lesson plans are going to be not a time frame that the students in the classroom dictate what the lesson plan is gonna be and it changes daily and sometimes hourly because my first period class may not be like my third of the class and I think you're aware of that but when you're saying you putting this kind of burden on this is going to create a problem just. Are you understanding might I do understand your concerns and again that's why we're saying make it available so it is what you have available and it does say that is reasonably available and so if that's not reasonably available because it hasn't arrived or because you're you've got new kids in your classes so it's not available then you're not in violation it is something that is resilient reasonably available not an onerous burden and should not be an onerous burden on the teachers. Davis. And thank you madam chair and. Under that part on page five it talks about adopting procedures to notify the student's parent and within twenty four hours I see you in a minute that state twenty four hours or the time frame and. Set out by I can't remember I thought that the time frame set out by state or federal law and. Seven the question is. There will need to be a procedure to notify the student's parents every time that the plans to change from what was on or what was submitted by October one so how how will teachers handle every time they you know have an awards ceremony or a snow day or something they were anticipating in the school year fire drill a tornado drill or whatever and they have to adjust their lesson plans based on that I think the the adoption is if there's a change in the student's mental and emotional state is the notification requirement. Not the change in the In a lesson plan. An. Well it's. Services are monitoring related to the student's mental emotional physical health and well being. sorry okay yes I see that now I was reading that. Not all the way through. Okay I'll come back. Senator Hammer. The less it's been amended out I'm looking on page six. Line twenty eight to twenty nine. The division shall promulgate rules necessary to implement this subchapter. And then based on the previous conversation somewhere here's the October is supposed to be done by October first at the local level might make connecting those two dates right well and that everything's gonna be done at the local level by October first is that correct. Whatever's reasonably available would have to be made available by October first pursuant to the bill language regarding our ability to promulgate our requirement to promulgate rules is still in okay and and here's a concern I've got. The Department. I really don't know how you're going to get everything done you got to get done in rules already with the learns Act. And it. Be available by October first and if you. Exercise the right to do emergency procedures which will buy you a hundred twenty days. I'm I'm a little concerned that we're going to get jammed up against that October first and then what happens what happens at the local level number one are they going to be relieved of that October first obligation because the department hasn't gotten the rules out for them to do what they're gonna do at the local level. So I agree with you procedurally it would be nearly impossible and for us to have rules promulgated by October first we we don't have any intention of doing emergency rules and so without rules the law would still be effective and school districts would still be required to comply they just wouldn't have the benefit of rules to to assist them in implementing in determining what exactly they're supposed to do. So then with the schools have to go back and undo everything they thought that they were supposed to do once the rules came out. That would depend on if what they did complied with the rules but if it didn't then yes they would have to revise it okay and then my next concern would be based on that what's the point I would wear and here's the punitive action that would be taken against a district or a teacher. In the event. They violated. Those rules or guidelines what's what's the punitive action that would be taken. There's not in the bill to my knowledge. Could that potentially going to teachers personnel file. That's a really complicated legal questions I know it sounds easy but. I. It wouldn't or that if there's not a possibility that it could be up to the district. Up to a superintendent it would be dependent on the policy that they developed whether they determines that the the teacher violated that policy again it's a very multi tiered question okay thank you thank you measure so we need to be talking about the amendment and decide what we want to approve or disapprove The Amendment. I was talking about the bill. I have a motion on the. Okay guys second. Johnson made motion. Hammer second all favor. All those. So let me down profit bill as amended. You have more questions. You said eight five. Yes. You had questions. You didn't have any questions. Okay go ahead as amended. Okay so um this is house bill seventeen thirty eight is a parent's bill of rights for schools Basically this comes from many parents across the district and across the state asking to be sure that the parental rights are protected here's a teacher's both want what's best for kids but this ensures that parents have a proper involvement in their child's education again there are two parts to this bill the parents rights meaning the parents should have access to information the materials in the classroom and they have the right to remove their child from the classroom if it conflicts with their beliefs the school district again we did not want to make this owners for the schools most schools are doing these types of things voluntarily but they should make materials available which means they just have to be available they don't have to be at the front desk they don't have to be online they just have to be available if it's reasonably available for that teachers to get to the parents they need to notify the parents within twenty four hours if there is a change in the student's mental or emotional well being and they should not discourage parental notification unless it is imprudent to do so unless it is prudent to do so And I again I The school age children with the objective of not putting additional burdens on the school districts. Hammer. Thank you and representative to the pressuring for it but I got question with alarms Act having come into play if a parent. I guess what I wondered is if a parent doesn't like it now they would have the ability to move their child to a school of their choice is that correct correct okay or they can remove just for that day of the classroom that which is the bigger incentive that's to say I don't particularly care this topic violates my child's beliefs are my beliefs my child so therefore I don't want them to be here for this hour of instruction but not use it to get out of a test or any of that type of thing. Okay and I'm thinking about and and maybe on the back with center Chesterfield and public disclaimer With knowledge of what happens in the classroom as far as lesson plans that have to be prepared and and the adjustment how to how does all that played together as far as what's going to be expected to the teacher when it comes to the development of the lesson plans so what is expected as I read this bill is that if I as a parent because he was a teacher and say could I please the lesson plans for this week that you would provide those to me. Pretty straightforward I'm not asking for lesson plans is not reasonable for me to ask for lesson plans for the next nine months right because they do changes Senator Chesterfield said pretty rapidly but it is reasonable for me to say can I see your lesson plan for the next week or can I see the materials it will be teaching for the next week and if the teacher doesn't. Something happens in a teacher has to deviate from that lesson plan because of whatever reason and then. Something happens where a parent a child goes home and tells a parent Hey this is what we covered in class because it came up are there any safeguards as far as. A just state accidental slip verses an intentional act of somebody trying to put something through there is no recourse it's all pretty much in good faith so there is no recourse for the parent to say oh you presented me this but instead you start making my student that and there's nothing for the parent to come back at it should I would think that most of our teachers will act in good faith right and their parents are going to ask in good faith and so. That's kinda where this bill comes from if you give me a lesson plan and you have to change it. I'm sure it wasn't intentional and is it only related to certain topics is that when I'm reading in here I know that for your child out. It is but I mean you can ask for a lesson plan for any questions you would like. If the child wants to be pulled out what's the schools mostly with child what's responsibility of the school as far as that child being and they're supposed to go where or state has an apparent note and I believe that the parent needs to take the parent is to remove a child. What. Mr will check back. I think that the pay it is the parents responsibility for that have come check the child if the parent is removing the child temporarily from the class. For one hour a day they would maybe have to come get that child out. Yes that is not the school's responsibility okay thank you enter Chesterfield. Thank you madam chair and thank you representative taking my call. I guess I guess I'm flashing back to the thirty years I was in the classroom. And their children. do not always act in their own best interest. Who can manipulate the parents. Interbay hard many times to manipulate us in the classroom. It and I'm wondering how far this is going to go. Because if your child goes home and miss represents. What a person has done in the classroom. You go up there and say my chassis we do with this. And I want to take him out of this room. What is it in. Because is really predicated on what kids are telling you. That are being taught in a classroom. In. We're getting to a point now where children of running a whole bunch of stuff maybe I'm just old school. When we take mass abduction by going back in Amsterdam and behave until we finish the lesson. We now say the cute as the bill of rights and they can go ending just talk about whatever they want to enter data data I've never I've always thought that. One folks will be while folks in case those becuz maybe I'm just old school but what is this in because what you're setting up is a possibility of children playing musical musical chairs a musical teachers it seems to me. And I don't see the guard rails here. How do we preclude this from being musical classrooms musical schools just because I don't like you. And even if you know what I said I'm teaching until you're there to see how that works out how we use in determine the value. Of what I am trying to teach to a child that has this that it believes that a challenge perhaps you give them the opportunity of course the challenging that because part of education is give and take of ideas. How does that work because this is really troubling to me and it's not because I don't want parents to have rights I understand that is that is troubling to me because I don't want this to turn into a to the side. When we talk about the parental rights you got peer to know what you to say anything about anything that disagrees with what they think and education is about the give and take of ideas knowledge I guess this was troubling me no I'm not saying that is a really good point center Chesterfield and I understand you're coming from the position of a teacher and that you agree that parents have rights as well so I appreciate that I think that one of the things we need to understand is that this bill is not going to cost you needs to say Hey teacher I taught me this anymore than they already do and we all know that kids do do that right if they know they can get a teacher they may not like in trouble they may come home and tell their parents something that may not be true this bill does not encourage that in any way it's something that they can already do and the ability for a parent to pull their child out of class if they disagree with something already exists and so again this is codified rights that we already have we're putting them kind of in one place so and on top of that there is no consequence to the teacher if they have taught something that is in their lesson plans as approved by their school district that's what the teacher needs to be teaching it is up to the parent of the parent says we don't agree with that then the parent can move them but they can already do that so this bill is not adding any complications or anything on top of what already exists in law. Thank you thunderstone. Yeah I have a question just clarification on page five line seven and eight are you saying that the teachers have to have their lesson plans. For the year done yes Sir and what what is required test scheduled for the school year they have to have all done by October first no they will not have them done they just need to have whatever they already have the need to make it available be ready to give to a parent when Aston so it again it goes back to what's reasonably available we're not gonna have lesson plans done for nine months I have taught at a college level and also home schooled kids for years have taught home school co ops I promise you I was usually only a couple of weeks ahead in my lesson plans for those so I do understand that but again I could have presented at least a couple of weeks of the parent and said when you teaching I can say well here's what I've got so far so was what is readily available I think it is unreasonable to expect it you're to have any complete year unchanging available thank you. other comment Senator Davis. Sorry I think that's my issues you is that it says make available annually by October one for review by parents upon request all of the following that are reasonably available and so they're going to do all this work to make. Anything that's reasonably available they're gonna do all this work to have it ready for the entire year by October one in the off chance that a parent might requested and so I just and then if it changes they have to change an updated and I just I do think that's really and reasonable to put on teachers to say they have to have everything for the entire year available available by October one even reasonably available I mean that's an entire year or what their semester teachers in their teaching different things for the semester each semester I just. And I appreciate what you're saying that it's not public like it's upon request but then I'm like well that's a lot of work to do for something that's not even public it's just upon requesting a somebody asked and they've done all this. Like I feel like that's a really heavy load on our teachers is your is your issue then dates deadline because it's not again they don't have to put it anywhere so if I say to you teacher I need okay I see what you're materials are going to teach my son Johnny in the lesson plans then you would go it's not like you have to have it that second rate so you would go you would say well here's my textbook here's my lesson plan for the next two weeks you already have that right so is the is the date what is hanging you up for having material I mean I would think as a teacher and I know it's when I taught I could got gather those things it might take me a day or two but I could gather things to say here's the stuff that I have available and like to look at it so that it is the day I mean I think the teachers are I think teachers generally speaking I mean and. If parents ask Hey can I see that they're getting it you know we're already saying that's already allowed by law the parents can request and be shown the materials in the coming week or whatever I think I think that's entirely reasonable and I think teachers you know I would think most the time are agreeable to that but it's the object that the whole annually for the whole year by October one ready that's what it is for me I think that's a heavy load to have your whole lesson plans done thank. Senate you don't want to be comfortable if I pull this check the date out and brought it back. Senator Hammer by the. Share All I Want deferred to the chair of the it's six AM I'm imagining or did we not pass the bill earlier this session that required districts to post on their website the educational materials are being used in the. In the classroom by the teachers did we don't require that to be. Okay so that material. The if everything I thank everything this for the most part that's being asked for in this bill would already be publicly accessible on the district website of because of that bill we passed. Would anybody in the room agreed thank you. The. Yes senators Chesterfield. I keep thinking of scenarios and. Because many times we start the year with a substitute in the classroom. In a substitute in the classroom. He has no idea. What they're gonna be doing. From day to day let alone annually. We. We don't have enough teachers as it is. And I'm I'm just very much concerned about something else that might that might drive them from the classroom because too many of our classrooms now have long term says reason short term stints in this is one more thing they've got to do that's my concern I do wanna appears to know I do wanna parents involved they deserve to be and I'm so happy that they sit and hope that they will be but I worry about this I worry about this anymore and I were. Thank you. There isn't maybe a suggestion that you might want to pull this down make these corrections possibly will be be be the after the session acolyte OR tomorrow. That we will I would like to do that I don't mind. But I think that a good plan thank you very much thank you okay very quickly will have. Yeah okay. Okay. What I don't have an I have no no with plan is. We use. All of. Bill. All right so we. We'll we will try Combat we only actually have about four Bills on here and So we we could try income that we're going to transportation now those of us who are transportation. And Okay. We were supposed to achieve these were supposed to adjourn public health and in education and then insurance and commerce transportation we're going to be. Okay. Okay all right so we will recess I guess. Until we figure out what's going on. Thank you very much. The.