ALC-Occupational Licensing Review Subcommittee

The license thing. And review commit subcommittee to order looks like we have a forum here especially in the house. Looking at the senate we're getting a corn being form ok so um here have you got. We're in now we're going to look at its consideration of a motion to suspend the rules. And take up the supplemental report in the reason for that being is that the report from me racing commission came in after the deadline so do I hear motion. Right here a second second they. The. Um so we got through there alright so that means the the day we have the folks from the. Brian free they are. With the state racing commission in john campbell and state ration commission you'd come up please. The. So if you would identify yourselves please then you'll be recognized I am buying freeland that is hardly for the arts are racing commission and with me john campbell's it the director of the arms are racing commission. Okay. He needs introduced himself. He needs to introduce himself for the record drawn campbell. Right. Ok to today you're here to and for the licensing for the um forced amazing in the dog raising so it's our understanding that there is no more dog wasting that is correct it ended in december of two thousand twenty two. Yeah. So now is your intention to file rules to do away with all that my understanding the law is we have to file this a procedure as you do to a dot rules and that we would publish and say we're going to repeal all the roots related to dial racing in that II think I should proper way to do it that's what we intend to do so when when you play to do that well we just try to give me for the racing meets on the sometime next month but what we wanted it to do is it's published in the newspaper and then said a day in the future for a meeting so you can have a public hearing so what will do all the well in they've actually been going almost a year I mean it's been raising been gone almost a year so I think it would be prudent to get those rules done. Expeditiously well no one called it our attention until you said yeah I think what happens is lifetime we just have rules that are you know two years after the action so I think we might recommendation would be that we. Can look at getting most super good okay so other issues your licenses with for the horses. So do you have some some things to talk about without. Well the license is an oakland basically the same thing that you have every other tracking united states when you go to another track you have basically the same same set of licenses that we have and so like if you go in turkey or you go somewhere in alcohol though the new york and wherever you have the same licenses and so. The federal government may take it over we won't really know until we get seriously using it outlined which because and there will know more about the intention of high sir here sir it's a horse racing technically safety act. Oh it's a federal I act it may take over all the high since he we just don't know how quickly that will happen. Or if it will happen. So there's that under consideration now it's federal level well the federal everyone's art they've already approved the act if they placed in the federal trade commission. And so they have a citizen commission is under federal law it has the authority to we think we think you're going to take a position they have the affordable license everybody the license event across the country in this could happen it would do away from with a need for oakland a license people. The. We just don't know and we get into this race me you know they had a lot of oh no that the act is real vague and. They have a lot of ideas but until we actually have a racing meat. We were really part of what know exactly what's the federal government intense to do. I thank you I guess my my other question we will be in material to this but why did they decided that the federal government needed the involved in they wanted uniformity and regulation across the country because you don't know that say you have a desert raising states i'm not i'm sure I mean there are but they all had their own saturday rules and then there's been a lot of pressures you know read about the greyhounds there was a lot of group supposed to grant racing they did away the criteria and racing and they're trying to make sure that or shrice into and have some of the same issues. Okay. The. Representative makes thank you so new york and you've mentioned oaklaw on several times southern not doing any more racing that is correct it start totally in december of twenty twenty two and then with the dog racing we don't anticipate that coming back to the state at any time of the future I have talked to them and they had no intention to bring it back so I just want to make sure I don't want to say it's repealed bunch rules and then two years later they say hey we're going to work out so that doesn't seem to be an issue with their set same question it will ask again before it's completely part of the process is completely back and then the other question that I had is we did have to do a suspension of the rules because you're report came in a little late can you explain why the report was late coming to us for our review what I mean I have someone else does it know what what our part was completed well advanced to the deadline so I understand that came in okay and then I would dispute that actually okay. Was that I know that we've delayed delayed a couple times committee action on it to allow for us to to be able to see it so and then I can get was staff to save or something I miss in there looks like you currently have a fund balance or not you've collected hundred and eighty four thousand dollars and licensing fee this year our last year you've got ninety three this year do you know what your current fund balance is because I don't see that on our. Sheet have reports to rocking and it had a three year old I just want to make sure that your fund balances are at healthy levels and I think it I don't think that's an issue okay did you know that number of the top behad or do you have a ballpark or smoke you don't know it okay if you if you don't mind if that's something you can send to in to send a staff so that way we we have it when i'm part of all your do and we do the review as we want to make sure you've got a healthy phone balance so that you can fulfil your mission but at the same time we we don't want you to have you know five million sitting in the bank doing nothing you know look at you obviously i'm being extreme there but you all kind of understand what what i'm afraid so if you don't mind if you'll send that into the staff force. Thank you. Representative cropper thank you madame chair thanks for being here as I was reading through this last night i'd just have questions i'm not against anything i'm just learning if you could help me on the five dollars licensees in some areas it says it's there for sight can you help me I know you said that it it helps to go across state lines so that you guys have all the same licensing but since it's such a small amount how does that help you in safety because it background checks and can you help me with it makes every person that goes in the extra to have a license bag to take her and so with securities back in the back stretch of the season without a license they approach on so that there's a main reason for a security if you're going back where the horses are hours if they could you know give the horses something they could harm a horse or that sort of right so a license in just give some a badge and give you into the backstreet right which gets you there which I think is free comment any restrict if you don't have a license you can't get on the back street for the horses in one other question on page forty it talks about this CDL licensed drivers that every five years they have to pay fifty dollars in licensing so i'm getting that is over and above what they have to do annually and then what's the reason for that one never heard of sleepy if on page. Of the report. The. Thank you. Yes. Okay i've just found out from stab that that was accidentally put in your report that it should not be there right now yeah II that answers all of them and then I was going to say okay there's alright thank you thank you madam chair. Okay so so when we're talking about a license where appears to are environment is some a piece of paper people faster test or whatever but a license in for what you're talking about is basically an identification badge and their registered with you all so that people know that they have. Can be there is that well that is for an employee like you have or shares and they have ever horse your union some kind associations I think they have to pass test internally but the people that are in the back that the security folks and their checking to see whether people come in with a license than i'm assuming the apps are kind of a a tag that would say this is new every you will be licensed sounds like you've completed a test like to do something but in this case I think we're talking about licensing is just as a a identification that is correct like ever owner's lives since partnership and trainers license jockeys that sort of thing in order to get into you know to give the jackie room or shaft have a license and the horse owners hire the jockeys at the head agents that are also licensed and pretend that that process i'll is like horse hours come and independent. Contractor hires his own jockey's own train and and they have to all be licensed. I. Representative. Fight you just answered my question thank you representative ladyman thank you mancher them all here I don't know this is just a curiosity question I guess but the you have a jockey license as fifty five annually and then you have a jonkey apprentices for the same amount so is this a printer somebody that's learning to be a joking it is have when I worked with that too for fellow absolutely forms I thought that was kind of curious also with that i'm sure it's the same thing at other tracks and so when we adopt these what out on does it look at what other tracks has a racing commission looks at what other tracks have i'm sure in a printed shocky license and another track is the same thing or we wouldn't have that which you are correct I thought the same thing when I was well my question is it it looks like this would be someone train and training that is correct may not make any money or may not make as much money is jockey why would their license be the same as a jockey is full the same question when I look at it it's been that way for years we've never had any complaint about it really so you know unless amount rated to the commission's attention is usually not rolled out this rosal you're not getting any complaints no complaints whatsoever okay all right thank you. But I had the same question. Are there any other questions here. Representative makes. Yeah thank you so and directly in front of me so that the the question came to mine since your counter you're doing the security and stuff in your dealing primarily only with how does one get to become a member of your board the concern I have that the reason that prompts me for the question I want to make sure that that the fox is not guarding the hand house I want to make sure that the board is independent and it's not necessarily you know going to be oakland people who are on the board and making decisions that are could be biased I guess is where