ALC-Review

Explain it and then we need a motion or two suspend the rules to take up this agen. Okay we're going to take the motion first motion to spend the rules of emotion a second any discussion all of overseas in your pose they scare the thank you miss chairman this is a disclosure of and the supplemental agenda is a packet into itself unto itself this is a disclosure item it's disclosure of a loan agreement for arkansas development finance authority and this is regarding the awarding of additional funding and benefits to entities owned in part by a member of the general assembly in july in october the ad for board voted to award certain benefits to a company in part by a member of the arkansas general assembly information was presented by advert and request for additional funding which were made by maybe strategic realty advisors inc we have the minutes of the meetings we also have documents submitted by senator petty disclosing his partial ownership interest and approval by the governor this is an approval item for this committee and again it's just the disclosure of doing business with a member of the general assembly. Said very won't be recognized. You're recognized thank you mister chair i'm just gonna make known for the record that i'm going to accuse myself from any voter discussion on this matter since it uh dealing with my business. Thank you sir we appreciate that. Yes we have a motion we have emotion a second we have to prove this emotion in a second any discussion old in favor say I opposed. Stand approved. Ad we're going to. I hadn't been miscathy mr chairman the first adam on our gender are going to be methods of finance it's in the part of our packet the first page is the letter from the department of finance and administration for the methods of finances they're sending over on the next page page two or is a schedule of the methods of finance the first one is a issue jones barra this is for a lab science west renovation three hundred and fifty four thousand thirty six dollars and sixty one cents and they note that they have university reserves to cover that number two as you know poor this is for the center for health sciences building phase one the health sciences academic the civility on the new port campus six million four hundred and forty six thousand dollars they have a combination of federal grants economic development administration and delta regional authority as well as private great gifts to fund the project black river technical college a leader barricks this is to construct in fernish and sixty bed barks for the law enforcement training a cac academy six million two hundred eighty thousand six hundred and seventy five dollars they note that seventy five percent of this project will be funded by our excuse me are perfunding and twenty five percent will be bunded by unexpected plant phones on the next page you acc rich mountain for the engine science facility it's up for a project that would be to a new engine science program metal building with roll up doors of classroom structures offices six hundred and eighty four thousand seven hundred and fifty one dollars and fifty one cents they have a regional work force grant to cover the majority of it and then it reserves from the university for the remainder uacc and UA community college at hope text cannot. This is number five himself hall covered walkway it's a covered walkway to divert the direction of rainwater drainage to prevent flooding of the interior whilst four hundred ninety six thousand one hundred and twenty three dollars they have college operating reserves to cover it number six years university markets are fail this is for their health physical education and recreation building second flow or this is for renovating that facility twenty four million dollars and the university has reserves that are going to be paid for with future bond proceeds uh paid back in number of seven is university of arkansas mona seller for installation of lights on their baseball and softball fields five hundred thirteen thousand dollars and they have private gifts to cover that project number eight on the next page you AM s this is a for hospital f four and h eight icu expansion it's for example of their current icus to add beds on f four for the expanding of patient population and this will allow you a ms to accept outside icu transfers for critically ill patience from across arkansas. Eight hundred and fifty six fifty four thousand nine hundred and seventy seven dollars and they note that reserves and revenues will cover that cost number nine uams for the northwest arkansas there you are ms ortho in sports medicine facility being built there and this is a revised method of finance at ninety million eight hundred and twenty six thousand eight hundred and seven dollars that projects is being funded by bond proceeds primarily as well as some news and reserves there are form the agency number two ua ms for the walker and x emergency operations in call center three hundred and forty four thousand five fifty eight they have reserves and revenues to cover that and number eleven uca for education on general renovations this is for renovating spaces in their science disorders and communications department shickle hall as well as no final that's being revised to not all over nine million eight hundred eight thousand and they have capital reserves at to cover the project and those are the methods of finance on today's agenda. Okay members I will go through this if you have any questions won't so much the department come up stop me at a morn. Adam to. Adam three. Adam four. Adam bar. Adam six. Adam seven. A mate out of man. Adam team. Adam eleven. Saying no questions. These day and reviewed without objection is to chairman the next item is under the sea part of our packet c one these are alternative delivery construction projects or are construction projects over five million dollars the first one is three UA favour and this is for the health physical education and recreation building second floor renovation are we sold the method of finance on the previous packet and we'll see the. Contract for design services over in item e but this is for renovation of the second floor it's a little over forty forty seven thousand square feet and they have selected they received nine proposals and interviewed five construction companies they just decided to go with cr crawford construction and the designed professional is have projects they estimate they'll be completing this project in august of twenty twenty five again it's a twenty four million dollar project and they have euros birthday reserves to pay for them to be reimbursed by future bond proceeds the second mouth by UA b is being pulled from the agenda today so we will not be reviewing that at this time we'll see it at a later day so the only meant of alternative delivery is for you of a item c one. Any members we got a member center as you have question for you know i've got a question. I did visit with the agency about why they were pulling this at this time the thing is that they need to get a method of finance over here and they fail to get that done first or at the same time as this project so they had to pull the project until they could get that done anything else I have not I didn't go into detail on the project. Any other questions on. The university of arkansas. Signal this will stand review without objections miss catherine the next group under dr are grants our discretionary grants and we have one here today on d one page one for the department of health with our care it's an amendment one adding two million six hundred twenty nine thousand dollars to the contract or to the grant and this is where they're providing funding to continue to provide core medical and support services for high they infected individuals for the ryan white part b service access in our program in arkansas and so that's the only one for the health department and then on the next page we have to hear for DHS the first one with the community advocacy research and evaluation consulting group it is a federally funded original grant a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars providing valuation of the partnership for success grant for the division of ageing adult and behavioral health services and the second one with children's advocacy centers of arkansas a little over five million federal funding and this is an agreement via federal funding to support the child advocacy centers of arkansas for development expansion of the child's add the case program those are all of the grants on today's agenda. Ok members named by the have a question for a department of hail. The barbara human services want to do in equation. Signal there's adamant found review without objection. The next items on our agenda are contracts in to begin on item e one is the letter from the office of state procurement from mr edward armstrong the director in the letter he states that they are sending contracts over for legislative review and noting that none of them appear on their face to have been procured in violation of arkansas procurement law however they do point out the veterans affairs has a a one that they are pointing out which is irregular and they provide more detail there at the bottom and when we get to this contract over later on i'll provide the detail as well as the letter of the explains from veterans affairs what's going on with the first group of contracts we take a look at our construction related contracts item e two contract number one is with a issue baby and this is that amendment to the existing contract to cover the expansion of the nursing expansion and remarble number two is dhs this is an uncalled architectural design services contract for them number three is the department of public safety state crime lab this is a new contract for architectural engineering design services for construction of a new forensic science lab medical examiner facility and office base number four national part college this is a new contract and this one is for construction services for projects related to the relocation of the maintenance department on the national part college campus. A new they they note a new campus location for that facility number five is a university of arkansas with her projects this is the. Design services contract for the one that we saw earlier their methods of finance and alternative delivery for their hyperbuilding. And the the design services contract is one m and seven hundred and forty five thousand seven hundred two dollars number six r is a uap cantract that they're pulling from the agenda day again this goes with the project we'll see that at a later day number seven uap this one is an original contract for two million dollars for uncalled sign services number eight and pooling it from the agenda as well based on request from the agency moving on to the next page number nine pbird for two million dollars another uncalled design contract and number ten UAPB for eleven thousand dollars this is for. Architectural services for a of a new softball the vehicle for the women's softball facility. Number eleven is and this is a contract amendment for additional services related to medical equipment planning staging and warehousing this is dealing with their UAMS or the pedics and sports medicine project we saw an mof earlier on part of that revision number twelve is uca and this is a contract for the work that they're doing at the architectural work on the snowfan arts chicken whole and communication science disorders buildings those are the contracts dealing with construction related. Any questions only these construction related contracts meeting the members. Sign this out of stand review without objection. The next group is intergovernmental contracts begin on page seven of item e the first one is dhs with jefferson county this is an amendment to the existing contract they have for congenuing provision of programming coordination with the jefferson county juvenile justice center and then on the next page the department of public safety division of arkansas state police with ua fable and this is dealing with the highway safety survey and those are the only intergovernmental contracts on today's agenda. Members any questions only these two. Contracts. Seeing known at the stand review without objection. The next group begins on page nine the outer state contracts the first one arkansas public employee retirement system this is twelve million dollar contract for investment management services number two is as you this is a two hundred thousand dollar contract for financial advisory services number three is asu and this is eight hundred twenty three thousand two o six four providing a new computerized maintenance management system for ASU john's borrow never four as you are this is bad million two hundred fifty thousand dollars to provide technology services to the asu jones borrow facilities number five is department of agri acrorking to natural resources commission and this is an amendment to an existing contract that they have for clean water need survey number six is department of commerce arkansas rehab services with shi international to member to an existing contract they have for technical services that are necessary to initiate contract are to obtain and effectively utilize a new case management system number seven is department of commerce division of work for services this is an amendment to the contract that they have for you I call center management number a department of corrections division of community corrections this one is for providing electronic monitoring of the thinders the radio frequency monitoring and satellite monitoring and remote tracking number nine through number twelve these are are going to be for a department of education division of career and technical education and these are all going to be new original contracts for adult work force diploma programs. On the next page number thirteen department of finance administration child support enforcement with lab corp of arkansas all this is an amendment eight this is not adding any dollars to this existing contract but they are amending this for a price change the unit price is going from forty three dollars to forty four dollars and seventy five cents per test at this time there's no additional money needed on the contract but they did have to make it available to you all and let you know that there was that price change number fourteen is department of finance administration management services this is an amendment to an existing car for a contract for open your stimulate and substance abuse site base consulting services number fifteen is department of health and this is an original contract for establishing the certified tumor registry education training services number sixteen a contract original contract for certified tumor registry quality assurance services. Number seventeen is dhs this is an amendment to an existing contract they have for continuing temporary employment services in areas of administrative support health care staffing services and professional services number eighteen. Is for d h with eighty eight services this is an amendment number five this is another one that is not adding any dollars to the contract but it is updating a rate sheet and this is a contract that they have with an agency for running nursing staff contracts for the state hospital number nineteen another dhs contract no dollars being added to this one this one again is a revision to performance indicators for a specific program dealing with residential treatment programs number twenty are on page fifteen hs minute number four this is a little over six million dollars being added to an existing contract and this is for integrated eligibility and benefits management solutions and other enterprise enterprise solutions number twenty one dhs amendment five as a nine hundred nine thousand ninety dollars to a contract again continuing independent verification and ballot the politication validation services were children and family. Comprehensive child welfare information system on the next page number twenty two DHS this is an amendment adding thirty six million dollars for eligibility operations support number twenty three DHS with data man health amendment to a additional dollars being added this is another one where the rate sheet was revised for the nursing and medical staffing services for human development centers. Number twenty four d h with equ health solutions this is a member twelve to an existing contract and this is has to do with prior authorization retrospective review services and for certain medicaid populations state wide on the next page number twenty five this is DHS with mc in a insurance as is amendment seven adding eighty million dollars as well as updating the right sheet and updating the scope for the continuing the comprehensive dental manage care program for arkansas medicaid didn't benefit for dhs number twenty six is DHS with southeast amendment and this is an amendment as well as a change in update to the rate this has to do with their non emergency transportation services. Number twenty seven is department of transformation in shared services arkansas geographic information systems this one is a cooperative contract to acquire high resolution to rain data covering portions of eastern arkansas that join a federal project two hundred twenty two thousand dollars for that original contract number twenty eight northwest arkansas community college this is an original contract and to have one secure digital testing environment that's easy for students to use and back only to set up number twenty nine university of arkansas this is an amendment to an existing contract for new common platform for it they advancement service. Advancement service systems number thirty you event this one is an amendment to an existing contract. Expansion of the statement of work dealing with class and can't project number thirty one you vay this is an amendment to an existing contract for completing the statement of work for operational support for office of sponsored programs including pre award ward management and research counting. Number thirty two you of a this one is adding no money to a microsoft contract and this has to do with repurposing some of their workstream services and finds into the other kinds of things that they needed for this particular project number thirty three you are vague this is for a space study to determine the optimal fiat or the university for physical resources dealing with its academic machine and the operational conculture of the university and those are the outer state contracts on today's agenda all right members I get several little reviewed cabinet would who do you want to break forward. The. Okay. Server hammer. I will make sure we do duplicate to the get about what same time we get the same question. The. Okay. Represent a painter okay and flipper out and sent a rash. Okay. I will start off with the ribbon of cabinet you're recognized my first question is gonna be on number seven division of work for services. The. The. You'll get appeared identify yourselves. And you could take. Repeated cabinets question. Good afternoon important trailer deputy director of the division of work for services are some hatfield cheaper staff for commerce thank you on this contract and number seven it's for a maximum federal services and it says it's a you are call center I notice this is only for six months. What's going on with that I now notice your last one was an even for a year also also are we only doing short term contracts with this organization. Will currently we're working to move or we're looking at maybe moving ourselves the center over to dis they currently don't how they were based call center up and running yet but planned to and the second quarter of twenty twenty four so we're hoping that by examining our existing contract six months that will give us time to work with dis and have an instant solution so we don't have to keep paying these people for something we can do in house while I would appreciate there cause I think it saves us money in along yes it will mister chair do you matter but i'm done with them do you want to get back in the queue for my second question. Thank you do you may get back in the queue this is going to be for the division of career and technical education. The end are coming for thank you. The. If you will identify yourselves then reverend capital will be free to have questions. Craig rogers department education can work in commissioner how execution ross what director of the division of current technical education. Basis and director technical education thank you so much this is going to be dealing with their contracts they're actually ninety and eleven in twelve they're all to various graduation alliance omni burst education services and response via I guess arkansas so there are say their adult work force diplomat program and there are four of them and there are seven hundred fifty thousand dollars what are they. Are you talking about what other contracts were the cause all it says it gives us no information so I don't know what this contract is it says adult work forced alone diploma program. Okay well we got four different contracts with two different we're actually I guess technically three different no four different vendors so what are they so i'll start off and then when I say something wrong came hit me but this is starting this is a dodasheducation department program that was those lace was passed in the last regular session to allow for those dollars they want to go back and receive a diploma to go work to these entities to get an adult education department different from a gd but an actual hospital to plumber and there will be a cohort that they will have that will be designed for whatever courses they need to get that diploma up to I think seven thousand dollars per student applying for their and it'll be on a reimbursement schedule situation where however many the classes that are student takes then they get reimbursed for those classes are going towards their hospital to their hospital diploma and why were they why are they to different binders I mean is there like us they they cover a geographical area. Yeah. Sell through a rfp process these are the vendors that are review were eligible and met all the qualifications to receive the funds in office programming this is an alternative opportunity for adults to receive a hospital these vendors met all the qualifications or so they are all approved offered the services that we reimburse them on a per service or per graduate amount the total funding is seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars and we do it and they are awarded the phones as they as they produce these graduates so it the reason not it's here as I think that the. There is an outside opportunity that one of these might produce a bunch of graduates before the other so it might cross the threshold but the total funding is seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars it is not seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars per entity. I have a question for that for staff but the way we are proven it it is seven hundred and fifty for each one of these vendors. If it's only a seven hundred and fifty across all these vendors are we not are proven more than what we should be approving that dash has given us the ability to work whichever vendor has that I realize that we're giving you the approval instead of giving you approval for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars pregnant new york approval for four or seven hundred fifty thousand that's close to three million dollars but we wouldn't be able to do after three million dollars because our total properties are covered budget only could you not come back and ask us for more money male don't you have the don't you have the ability to come back and ask the form of running if you want it if we had enough part is pasted the programs where we were exceeding that seven and fifty that is something that we would have to come back to your but the reason I may ask and that is last. Meeting this for the staff why caught where there was a mistake and they put it in twice and it shouldn't have been instead of given them three hundred thousand dollars we were given them six hundred thousand dollars is this not similar. That was all on one contract where where we had expanded on one contract the way they're doing this one vendor could could do all the work and know the other vendors get anything and if they don't set it at seven hundred and fifty five thousand for that for for each vendor then they wouldn't be able to do all of that work and they have to come back in amended and and again their appropriations that seven hundred and fifty so they're not going to be able to go over that as far as they're spending authority okay alright thank you. This. Yesterday seated sent to hammer you got a question. Recognized. You got it thank you sir. The just explained to me the process of how you're going to award. To each one of them if it's one part of seven hundred and fifty thousand you got four that are competing for watch sea how you going to equal that out or bounce that out so that that it's not so much fair. So i'll start in ella as doctor writing right to villani details that I miss but basically it's going to be first come first served all of these are authorized by our request for proposal process to award these degrees and begin this work so as they produce these graduates they will be fun and but at that time so in all likelihood they're all going to begin services and they're all going to put his graduates and then we will you know it's very unlikely that one of these going to hit the seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars threshold for get all the money because wanting to do the work so we will award them the phones upon a product on the based on on their product per production of these adults with high school upon this so i'll energy question yeah I just. I just what if what if you got several in the pipeline and the money runs out one of these companies almost have somebody across the line. And you run out of money before that batch of students finishes up will the company just be responsible for the call sure they're going to look to the individual reimbursement. So I think in the in the in the scenario where we are bumping up against the threshold of the funds that we would probably make notice to those that hey we had this many in the pipeline and we are going to be if all these complete I mean and all honesty we can only hope that we produce this many adult degree plumbers and we come back and we see that this is a successful process of the pathway to hospital plumbers for students then we'll come back to you all and say it looks like this is working this is a way that we can get arkansas across the hospital thresholding they will be good good force but I think it's a bit our responsibility to to work with those groups to ensure that should we approach those threats holds that everyone knows where we are in in in in process okay and are these going to be for people that already have gds her no this is this is for nobody with so no so this is this is a different avenue a partner side from our adult existing adult education program that was legislated to us to stand up so this is not a gradual equivalency to plan with this is actually a house school palmer last question there's there's another group in our consolidates doing similar thing working with dhs and we just want to in these roll out of state providers were there any state providers that bid on this was it was it through standard procurement process that you arrived at these four. Yes sir it was a standard procurement process and the ones that were eligible after the review and met all the criteria with the for that you see I don't were there any in state opportunities or applicants for this no sir okay thank you same issue. Hard members in the other guy the questions were out of state contracts for the board vigication. You get one third party. The. They thank you mister chair just to follow up backing up to the I thought I heard the number seven thousand what is the what what is the amount being paid to these providers per graduate or how do you rabbit that that number. So they're sorry so the seven thousand is going to be an average of seven thousand for the corporate per student so as they're ruling their students they can't spend a cost is going to be of average above the seven thousand for vehicle and so that's how the cost was a common camp to for th. They were going sorry. So just do in quick math and if i'm messed it up in my mind and then there's my fault but that's about a hundred and seven students on the seven hundred and fifty thousand at seven thousand per student is app is that the goal to produce out of the seven hundred and fifty thousand hundred plus reminisce graduates. Is that is that math or correct that matters that map is correct that if they spent seven thousand for each student then that would be the cost that they spend less than that they would have more students that will be able to come through the pipeline okay thank you. Thank you senator credit card off but you still want to talk to more of an education to something else. Okay well i'm all a general that you finished in so they get get gone that may be thank you not thank you mister show this might be thank god question. My first is this was rfp so how did four people when rfp because I would think that only one person would come out on top on a beard. And if they're all saying they're doing it for seven thousand did we tell them we're going to give him seven thousand or did they conclude and come up with the same price. So i'll get out starting in not forwarding here so the rfp only did the rp we were looking for those vendors that could provide this service website are budget to what we could have on there cause we know our budgets only seven fifty thousand dollars and this is went to four vendors to come back that met all those qualifications and so instead of taking one out we allowed for all four vendors to be able to participate in this program if they don't get in students where they do not continue on with participation they will obviously we wouldn't have continued with a more having thing to reimburse for them. So. How did four vendors come up with seven thousand dollars per student. I mean that's unusual for the I put in a bid process for them to come up with same so that that was legislated that was in the that was in the legislation that was passed that set the amount it did it set it up to yes. So they just be at seven thousand and we just took it so it's not so we requested qualifications that was my mistake early I said request for proposal we did a request for qualification so all of these companies met the minimum qualifications two deliver these services. So the legislation said up to seven thousand dollars but we didn't try to find some way that might be able to do it for five thousand and get us more. People with diplomas or wages say it hey is set up to seven thousand and that's what we're going to let's all charges it set up to seven thousand but it's based off the core cohort of what that student needs to get that diploma that's why it's it's up to seven thousand could you might have an an individual that only needs an english course in that cohort to finish their department whereas you might have somebody that needs three or four classes to to complete that diplomats only say up to seven thousand if that individually needs an english class and only maybe a couple hundred dollars but if they need it all several classes it could be up to that seven thousand so there's not a that while that's the ceiling that's not the bottom it really depends on that individual student and what they need to earn obtain that has called diploma so we can actually get more than a hundred and seven people I mean because when you say we're spend a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars getting a hundred and seven people with the department I mean they kind of sucks the around the room if you know what i'm talking about so it's possible just based on this this is the first year this first year were set it up so it's up to the seven seven thousand but once we get into it and working with these programs and they say that most of the people only need that couple classes then we could allow for additional people to get into a cohort to try to get their department to this is just our target for that first you're getting this based upon like the classes are going to take so it's so much per class is that what it is is it a pretty class or is it just all depends on class. So the cost the class is for a seven hundred and average for the entire cohort so when a group of students is classed together they're going through when the vendors in this for the reimbursement then they're expenses for that entire cohort cannot have it average costs of more than seven thousand dollars per student so as mr rogers were saying that potentially we could have a student with in that cohort where it was maybe a hurry dollars in order to be able to educate them and you may have another one that is closer to the seven thousand but as long as for their entire core of the average cost of all seven thousand are below make a submit for reimbursement. Okay so tech with then explanation sorry mister jeresa would that explanation you could actually have some students if you're doing it by average it's more than seven thousand that's only right you're going to get an average you got somebody's below you got to have somebody else higher in their goals back to that if there is a student that has more need then they may we have a higher amount but it's gonna be more likely they're gonna be closer to that seven thousand dollars because most of the vendors are going to try it stays closer that is possible to make sure that their costs are going to be able to be reimbursed did the legislation say it had been a average or seven thousand or it was just up to seven thousand because if it only says up to seven thousand and you've got your bicyman on average does when I ask. And being thought I messed that up in a said average they they legislation said average thank you. I got one question was there anybody from instate that head interest in applying for this but maybe didn't qualify did we have any big ministry. The application will receive there were not any instant applicants they're off my say right. Anybody else have some questions for proper education. Seeing non yard excused appreciate coming forward. Turn to my off this animal stand reviewed without objection. Always right we got you away fuse me we're not we're all back up search harassed you have on the view of a. Services. And which party would I waive out there again. The. The. Identify yourself like a hailey university of bargains server rates as a question. Mr man is for number twenty six DHS medical services sent to hammer my hand one for this do you know you know on your boy you sure. Are simple at revenue to painter you recognize. Thank you mister chairman's for number thirty three. Just can't explain to me the sky from the hills of the ozarks at six hundred and sixty two thousand five hundred dollars in cash what a space what does it mean by space study to determine how an optimal fit can be created between the university's physical resources it's academic mission and it's operational culture because I do not understand what that means at that price. Absolutely so with over two hundred and fifty buildings on our campus and around five hundred and fifty acres where we have grown exponentially at the campus we've went from about fifteen thousand enrollment to about thirty two thousand so instead of login just at you though building another building that's anywhere from thirty to sixty million we're bringing some experts in that we don't have on our campus right now to look at all of our buildings all their classroom deliver offer spaces how can we best utilize that is do we need to shift tonight classes do we need maybe weekends how do we more online just really looking at that that overall picture because like I said we really don't want to spend that the chancellor doesn't want to spend that he's very fiscally conservative so this is a way to look at that to get the best being for but because we all receive an increased enrollment and we do need that classroom space follow up mischief. Was there anybody in state that. We had five application we had five vendors that uh did an rf did per the rf with p we interviewed to with those was an instate alright thank you mister share appreciate it since hammer did you say you will question you you recognize her. Thank you chair good afternoon two quick questions also on on thirty three would you find it that operational culture can you define what that term means as it's been used then that contract absolutely were you know we are in academic mission and you know where that eight to five usually so we're looking at changing that do we need to do night classes do we need to do more online you know changing that fed around her best to what we need for the students in the space. Okay and then in my mistake we approved some contracts for your earlier in this meantime we approved some for you for building her my mistake yesterday. Okay so i'm just curious with this study going on how long is it going to take and what what about projects that are currently maybe coming down to pike in the next month or two and how you going to coordinate that because based on what you just shared and testimony would seem like apologies but would get it before we spend a more money. No where we're looking at that as well I mean that the new buildings that are coming online the ones that are currently under we have a lot of construction on cut campus right now all of those are being looked at there is no building that's not going to be looked at this is just for the ubank campus in favour only yes sir okay thank you thank you for any of that questions for universe forks over the other member. See no your excuse thank you for coming to rash. Your questions for d h f hs medical services number twenty six. If you'll identify yourselves in the central rask and ask question meter house chief staff dhs. Now smith the deputy director DMS. Jean it may end deputy secretary of programs in medicaid director. Don't arrange you recognize thank you this is the eighth amendment on his contract is the federal match the seventy one percent twenty eight been consistent all away. Through this. The mattress is the consistent higher rate of the seventy one twenty eight but it does change every year on october one so could tweak between seventeen seventy two okay and what what criteria justification initiates and amendment or a rate increase. A every year that's handled through our actuary the the brokers and and the dmos provide information and the actuary determines whether or rate increases necessary or not. Okay do you do. Regular valuations of services. We do regular evaluations and and we do receive. Complaints at at times on any of the providers in when does the. Renewal or amendment process. Start. You say you do it each year when does that start. Uhm the I believe the uh the brokers and the dmos provide their financial information around junior and then the the actuaries get back with us around october they submit a draft and then submit final rates in october so there is no no contract amendment. Renewal goes past a year as upgrade to done every year. Yes sir it's done every year and then we have brought additional amendments for arm amounts when we have gone over or under the contract what would be over because we do monitor this through fee for service in then we do monitor it through contractual language with with yales approval in a trying to try undergrass you have to deal with a lot of things complicated though i'm trying to find out what's different home some of these can drags another contract. So net services are required under the medicaid program so we provide that service every day to any of the beneficiaries that do qualify but we also put it out to bid under a contract through our different regions in the state and then we use an actuary to do the rates and so an extra layer of protection to help us with the budget is we bring the contracts before your for review and it helps us monitor the the cost in the expenses and there have been times when we've come before your where we've asked you to ratify or in large the limit on the contract because we've provided the services and we've hit that legislative authority. Does that help answer your questions in the it does goes there's other contracts which you look at the cost in figures and you have to after local see what needed it certain times i've tried to get a time when what it takes for certain contracts yes sir and we do try to set a threshold internally at dms of when we reach seventy five percent of the threshold of the legislative authority to look at this as we told you earlier this week in a different committee sometimes we missed that when we update rates so this is this contract is unique compared to some of our other contracts since it is a required service in the medicaid program thank you thank you mister chair thank you senator shared flopper you got a question for dhs. I do thank you mister chair so i'm gonna look at contractor number twenty five. And. I'm represented here also another there's ncna for dinner and it's curious I know we've got one on instant contracts for adulted in all which is against the company something that got my either day is extending this to five eighteen of twenty four so you know maybe eighteenth next year. King of meal a backstory on that's kind of an our date. Yeah so it is an odd date this is but this is the end of a seven year process so it has been out for for rebared and a I don't know exactly why they are date but it may have been something with a protest in going live at the at the start of the original contract okay so jennit. You all have already issued a repair then okay okay so what's the you know what you all think at about five nineteen how it's going to look at that point are we gonna. We are hoping to have a smooth transition and we are hoping to not have to approach you for a special for continuation but we will take that day by day as we work through the rf process okay thank you. Is in my understanding that beginning in may we're going from two vendors to for. We do have an anticipate and anticipate to award and think that's the time and eighty eight to award and it we did award to for vendors versus two enter we've not done the negotiations where we're in that blackout period waiting to see if anyone protester or does anything but that is the potential yes and what was a rash now going before. Because the bids were very close on numbers and we were there is not an even there was not a break and so we thought with four vendors it would help quality and competition and service areas throughout the state okay. Us flipped recognized a year just mr chairman limited every question so you'd think it was seven years a coach your interview i'd probably know this but I don't. How does how how one of these four viners protest if the actually you know you know or what in a contract. I know there's a reason I mean i'm sure there's got to be motor standards like you kept protest a few i'm gonna defertile. Mitch you're the guy well I don't want to give them reasons but but yes they do have the opportunity to do that because we are selecting four vendors and as jane it pointed out the the numbers are really close so there could be some protest counter in that. Without you know without giving too much detailed the given reasons to protest that and I just can assist of cathedral if you don't want ketty is there something within the programming the last four you know a winning vendor to protest. Yeah so if we're going to have for you know potentially four vendors could one of the four that you know might be award of country you know be able to protest another. Add. Mister chairman was your permission. Yeah. The. You identify yourselves and take. Center football question all right that i'll be happy to so didn't even repeat the question I heard the question at center flip of mister chair i'm ed arm strong state current director with office of state procurement within the department of transformation and shared services so our protest at you ninety eleven to forty four just generally give standing to people who have a bit if they have participated and they've submitted a bid if it's an ifb or an offer if it's an rfp if they have been a grieved by a violation whether they've been awarded or not then they can go ahead and make when the status of these been agreed that it allows for right do they have to cite one of the status story grounds but they might say well I was awarded contract but I really should have been awarded to okay because you know whatever reason then they would have standing to do that. Okay i'll presumably clarification that yet. Senator hammer queens you about something certain hammer. You're recognized thank you this is I do have a question another one but on this one right here. The. Going from two to four. Without violate anything or jeopardize anything can you tell us the pecking order as far as who came in. I cannot because DHS did this solicitation we can get you that information is posted on our website I just don't know the order off the top of my head okay. Were there any problems with the two that were currently providing services and what is it that made you decide to go from two to four there was nothing wrong with the two that are providing services again where we are in the protest period so i'd like to take that off line thank you okay that's fine I would just will talk off land and resure can I well you have to to add the master question air typically not i'm thinking about like I mean it's not apple apple comparison of thing like in the highway department you know they they put up company comes in. They might be of a fraction above the next closest one and it's awarded one our procumerate laws allowed for dhs to have this kind of latter two to arbitrarily go from two to four and why would not a top bidder when it as long as they can meet the qualifications of specifications given. The. Or maybe that's a black out period question if it has decided that all right senator hammer so i'm not going to so many are between us but I will say is the statute provides that contracts are awarded. Based on consideration of the valuation criteria that are stated in the rfp and consideration of discussions and price and discussions can include negotiations and clarification and our rules make that clear that those are two types of discussion they're not exclusive so after discussing with vendors and considering price any valuation factors the rules are negotiation say that an agency at can. Basically they can negotiate and discuss as provided for in the rfp so if there are if p for example provided for award to four vendors. Then they could award up to four vendors. So if six eight ten would have came in close based on what's been shared it could have it wouldn't necessarily could have been for it could be as many as what it came in is that would that be an a possibility it would depend on the language of the rfp and what it allowed cause that kind of sets in addition to the statutes and the rules then the rfp kind of becomes its own adhoc rules if you will if and rfp says we're going to look at the top five vendors or the top eight that they can use their business judgment any agency could to set up an rf but once they've set the rules in the rfp that's where they lose discretion right okay and I apologize arbitrary may have been strong word i'm not implying anything about dhs so let me or maybe should have picked better word I just told me where to think i'm. Accusing ms chairman I like to ask question of them about number twenty four that would not bold it please yes sir you're recognized thank you on on contract twenty four. You you go down and consistently it says like certain medicaid populations retrospective reviews it doesn't say per contract which medicaid population they're dealing with is each one of these different populations or could you just connect hit on that. The. So the contract is for equ health and it does handle some of our specialty populations and the different amendments have been to um it reviser add funding for different scopes we have not added populations to this contract to my knowledge. Okay do. Do any of them do any DHS nurses or there are any DHS staff they're involved in any of these retrospective reviews and and first questions that are the yes sir we have a combination of contracted staff in internal staff within dms conditions that are involved in this contract and others is this just for the purpose of case load and the nurses that we have on staff or whoever does it are not able to handle it or wire we employ nurses to do this under year budget but yet we're contracting out with somebody else here kept me understand we actually have two m multiple contracts to handle this type of work of priotitization in retrospective reviews and it's because of the volume of the over eight hundred thousand beneficiaries that are currently enrolled and we were we were at one point two million jet earlier this year so it's a volume to be able to handle the volume of work ever done a case study to see if we staffed up or versus pain optus kind of money have had we've done that not to my knowledge recently but this contract in several others were you know consistently reviewing for better services and better price purchase okay thank you thanks reviews of care and offers your question for the account or procurement. A buddy i've got questions for these two your excuse precious forward. Prepared to cabin off who you like to go for this is for child support enforcement but staff might be able to answer go here but just a clarification down here we're saying that the purposes is because the contracts going from forty three to forty four seventy five but down at the bottom. It's already it says it's there. So I don't understand. I'd think that's a glitch because it also talks about it being a part of the amendment and and the original contract would not be of an amendment at a believe that is not. This. Not the actual. We have to sometimes group contracts together when they met the name change and the contract number changes and will we do I sometimes get some bleeding over of some information that actually went with this current amendment that it shows up elsewhere in the contract and I just didn't notice okay aren't thank you. Alright soon to hammer you thanks quick quick question for department recreation on the break apartment corrections. When everybody gets appeared for how to identify sales and central hammer will ask his question. Chair branches financial officer department of corrections so free into manager to vision a community to correction. Partner corrections hammer thank you thank you for being here these are ankle monitors is that correct. Yes sir okay ended we put competitive bids or is your more than one company that offers these and was it through competitive bid that they won this. No sir sooner this was not to compete to be this is on cooperative contract so we can pull this and we can start a contract with them and then large question for those that are having worth these ankle these are ankle matters that are placed on individuals they're discharged to go back out the community set correct. Various offenders some of those are are they are they required on the state law to pay for the cost of this announced it's fifty percent state funds is there is there the means to require them to pay the cost for this. Oh I know depending on the reason for the monitor being placed on the offender there there are charges that go on with that up to two dollars per day okay i'll have offline thank you thank you missus. Brections. Seeing no your excuse. No other questions nobody is little app for what we'll this will stand reviewed with that objection. And will go to the end state contracts me the state contracts mr chairman began on page twenty two of the packet the first one is for the department of agriculture with custom custom airing this is for airborne fire suppression services numbers two and three or both for department corrections vision of community corrections and they're both for a service providers to provide supervision housing and and evidence based programs and services directed addressing a risk factors and aimed at redirecting our residentialism among the targeted population number four is department of energy and environment eighty ecu this is an amendment for our janitorial services number five DHS this is contract amendment for providing highly qualified skilled nursing and other medical personnel at the arkansas health center and other agency facilities number six dhs though this is an amendment for specialized women's subsidies abuse treatment services a number seven DHS on this is a contract where performance indicators are being updated so there's no dollars being added and then number eight is DHS and this is an amendment for a contract providing temporary staffing for basic clerical positions for county officers number nine DHS this is a contract amendment for providing dental services for individuals with developmental and behavioural disability is residing at the jonesbury human development center number two and DHS with area agency on aging southeast arkansas and amendment four continuing to provide non emergency transportation services number eleven another one where we're updating performance indicators. For utilization review restroom spectrum review and medical review services contract number twelve and this is on page twenty six d h non emergency transportation services number thirteen this is the contract with delta dental one of the contracts for comprehensive dental managed career for eighty million dollars number fourteen is department of parks heritage and tourism state parks division this is for an economic impact study number fifteen department of public safety architect crime information center this is for systems maintenances for number sixteen department of public safety crime information center this is for sex if under registration system number seventeen department of veterans affairs this is the contract done is an emergency this is the contract that I referenced in mister armstrong's letter that we looked at at the beginning of the contracts it's also more detailed provided by veterans affairs on page one of your green letters packet this is for temporary nursing staffing services payment and it's outside of the contract past twenty days overdo and in their letter they say that they have several nursing staffing contracts with various staffing agencies doing do nursing search shortages here in arkansas and there's not a single staffing agency that can provide the requirements advertised there was been a high turnover at both the bedrooms affairs as well as the fatable veterans home and an invoice was sent to the wrong facility by the time it was failed it was into the new year the contract that they had. I had already expired and in order to be able to pay that contract they're having to do this emergency contract to be able to go back and pay the hundred twenty three thousand five hundred and thirty six dollars and twenty six cents a ad also notes that since this is taken place they've taken a look at their training and at their management controls they've also had an individual with several years of experience at osp and so they are working to correct this in the future but this is in order for them to pay for services that were provided. Number eighteen is south arkansas community college and this one is done as a cell source justification so that that sole source of met university is founder on pages to through four in your green packet this is to assist with financial reporting for internal and legislative audit purposes and provide accounting and financial system through the college and they note in their pages here that they needed certified public accounting specialist who deal in government and public and nonprofit accounting and they've also note that they've had some problems in the past and fails the teams to properly hire the right people to be able to do it so this is a solution to have somebody locally who can handle it for the university and provide them with their ongoing assistance that they need and so that's the just vacation for going with a a local firm number nineteen is UA community college basically and this is an amendment for providing mental health counseling services to their students number twenty on the next pages you see a central flying service this is for their aviation program and it's two point seven million dollars and those are all of the instant contracts on today's agenda members we have any questions on any of the instant contracts. Senator patty. Man is for a eighteen south arkansas community college. We have anybody appear that can. I hear the car. While they're coming we have been discussing matters by which they're they're they're talking about here and and legislative audit and so just wanted to kind of get all the more details we work through those on there legislative at its ads though the old identify yourself there's enough repairing free to have questions. Stephanie tolled our tests interim president at south arkansas college ends up all the social aspects of the bonus administration thank you and thank you for being here and and addressing this as I said we've been talking about these and in legislative audit they occur and and as a cpa myself a certainly understand the difficulty and hiring that that capacity internally my question is maybe one of it is first for staff but it on eighteen is listed as five hundred thousand and on the green sheet and the agreement in the memorandum says a hundred thousand. So unless I missed something in the discussion I just want to get a clarification on that. The. Eighteen and then page four. The. Okay we're fixed now sorry what I was going to point out is that the contract that we're looking at is from january of twenty four through december of twenty seven so it's a hundred thousand dollars a year is what they anticipate spending correct okay. And and they're just showing more than than one year on the contract. For the five hundred thousand. That clarifies that except eh if I used my finger math s four hundred instead of having anyway not not relevant at this point for for their mac question is more the details of of what that contract is going to include are they going to basically be your chief financial officer outsourced or are they going to assist with monthly or quarterly or year and preparation of those statements. Actually it's a progressive plan we've had a number of issues because of turnover and they've resulted in a number of legislative item findings our plane at this point is to restructure the finance area of the college which we have done but we're also trying to use them for audit support as well as support for the development of our monthly statements as well as a lining with our european and then finally staff development associated with both that reporting as well as the legislative article and our intention is to only use them as we need to and have a progressive plan to develop our staff so that we don't need them in the future. So it is which was my my last question which is it's an hourly basis or some some variation to that as opposed to a a lot of some contract for preparation about audit or something like that. Yes sir it's an hourly basis as needed. We don't see thirty four. Not not for say okay all right your excuse. Revenue to your question for. If parting tourism out here. Where the gum. You get to the table identify your sales and register to mackland wool as a question. Catherine injuries director of the office about direct. More morning round director of legislative affairs port charities in tourism. Who in where they square. Not not ever own. Yeah. Thank you I had a quick question on fourteen can you just tell me more about the economic impact study where you're like what part of the state are you looking at. We have over twenty locations identified. State properties both game and fish and department aparts heritage and tourism as well as some of our national parked sites are hot springs national park the buffalo national river international forus. And I can get you a full list of everything that we're studying but this study will help us in two ways help us better advocate for our private industry help them understand what types of amenities people are utilizing in the state what are some of our biggest assets in the state what are some of our highest activities and then on the other side is our communities and our advocacy groups helping our communities better plan for investment decisions so helping them understand what types of activities and out direct are most people coming to arkansas to do so that they can then use investments to better plan for tourists and to get more of their residents outside as well as our advocacy groups okay and kwik follow up what is the length of the study and when do you expect to have results. We're estimated that the study will take about a year and so around this time next year very good thank you. The. Any other question for parks. Your excused. River painter your question is for who advert by the other hair does. You'll identify yourself ripped into panel. Proceed with this question scots name your chief of staff admire appreciate you being here what so it can't explain that their nursing shortage that you guys are facing and maybe the impact of that on on our veterans the nursing shortage in the nursing market in general it's just in a bad place these schools out there or not they can't produce enough in the state the market for contract nurses is double what our intro level nurses pay based off the current paygrade so for average coming in as a brand new nurse if you don't work for us we would pay you thirty thousand dollars sixty thousand dollars a year average starting is about eighty two so for contracting to get there we pay on average sixty eight dollars an hour if if it was the average of eighty two thousand dollars an hour i'll be eighty two thousand dollars for the year it'd be forty two dollars an hour so we're paying over right now they average and so you can assume that the contractors take their cut off the top how how many nursing were how many nursing positions are you guys unable to feel right now with our ins and lpns between both homes seventy seven but that also that number does not include the cna's too because now there's a market out for them and we contract a lot of those as well one more way on I kind of a different subject required when you guys released your website did you guys notify all the county cbs of. I'm sorry do we know about them don't know when you got you guys your website's been doubt was down for like six months and lottery county cbsl's account county veteran service officer were a lot of better to go to we're not really notified beginning when they're shut down now that it's back up and running have you guys notified them yes we are actually we just conducted some training with all the county b so's last week and the website was brought up with that okay great thanks thank you I members any other questions. Your excuse. Seeing no other questions to the institute come contracts will stand reviewed without objection and will start on adam if this chairman the only thing we have left our reports and we just have a couple of reports f one or previously reviewed services contracts report f two is a report of executive contracts under the threshold and then f three is a critical emergency report again those are just reports for today's committee. Any questions on the report. Seeing non members. We stand adjourned thank you for your work.